Here is one of my designs that recharges a capacitor in a unique way.
Thanks for sharing, looks sort of like an Avremenko plug with an antenna. I think I tried something similar a while back. It did charge a cap. If you are in the U.S. and your house is wired correctly and you have polarized plugs (one slot is a little longer than the other) then the hot side will be the smaller slot (usually on the right if the ground lug is on the bottom). But always assume both are hot until you know for sure.
How fast does your setup charge and how much voltage do you see on the cap?
Well I was using a 6.3V 3900uh cap the other night,,let it charge all night. When I stuck the meter on it I think it was around 6.58 volts or something like that. Then I stuck a motor on it which ran for like 3 seconds very fast. Strangely I think the negative may be doing the same thing since I now have the cap going only to a ground and an antenna and its charging too, but will it fully charge on the ground I dont know yet.
Quote from: e2matrix on March 30, 2011, 12:58:13 PM
Thanks for sharing, looks sort of like an Avremenko plug with an antenna.
J. Naudin did something similar:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/afep01.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/afep012.htm
Naudin's work looks like what stevensrd1 has; stevensrd1 just has something simpler. Avramenko said wire transmission isn't attenuated by a longer wire. Naudin proved that. Stevensrdi might try the same thing with a longer antenna or longer hot 'lead'?
The Tesla hairpin circuit transmits power over distance the same way.
REEDIT:http://www.cazv.cz/2003/2002/tech1_02/Strebkov.pdf
(This paper is mostly in English, but has some amount of calculus to contend with, for those who're unfamiliar with the math.)
Also, you might want to step down the voltage to 12VAC and use a lower voltage capacitor so as not to possibly kill yourself while touching 110/220(Europeans) VAC line mains voltage.
--Lee
Are you "stealing" electricity or are you still being charged for using the hot wire?
A very neat idea for charging a capacitor.
Quote from: ibpointless2 on April 13, 2011, 09:15:05 PM
Are you "stealing" electricity or are you still being charged for using the hot wire?
A very neat idea for charging a capacitor.
I was under the impression that if the power doesn't interact with the Neutral line side or socket Ground, it's not going to affect the power meter you're being charged utility bills with.
At least that's my theory. To test? Eliminate all ghost or phantom loads in your house/apt/work space. Then measure voltage and/or current while looking at the billing meter yourself for any reaction(movement/digital number changes), right?
Be careful for the wattage involved!! One mistake could be your last, especially using 220VAC. Very, VERY risky!!
--Lee
I would not say its stealing any electricity,,first of all its such a small amount of power,,however Im sure one could charge a very large cap, but that would prob take a few days..Second I think its working by induction,,or rather the energy thats naturally just wasted or leaking from the hot wire in the first place. But I dont think the meter knows anything either way,,unless it is sent back through the ground wire,,which goes back through the meter and into the earth. But looking at it from another angle,,one could make a novelty item from it,,clock that uses no power or something. On the power cord,,one prong being plastic,,using the other hot, plop up the clocks antenna and it would run a clock,,meaning something digital,,very low power. Of course many of us have done that with a crystal radio,,and it only uses a ground and an antenna,,but will power a digital watch too..Still neat thos,,thats why I mentioned it...
that way I could charge 1uF 400V cap to 90V in 1/2 second from 12V battery using self-running relay
yes it works and it works good with grounding to iron
didn't checked with antenna, good point !
I posted a video on a fast way to recharge a capacitor with a plasma ball at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ4ysq8mBnk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ4ysq8mBnk)
Quote from: stevensrd1 on April 20, 2011, 02:15:36 AM
I posted a video on a fast way to recharge a capacitor with a plasma ball at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ4ysq8mBnk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ4ysq8mBnk)
@stevensrd1
Is that highly efficient in terms of power consumed compared to the power available in a fully charged capacitor?
--Lee
Quote from: stevensrd1 on April 20, 2011, 02:15:36 AM
I posted a video on a fast way to recharge a capacitor with a plasma ball at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ4ysq8mBnk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ4ysq8mBnk)
Hi Steven,
Interesting idea to use the Avramenko plug that way with the plasme ball. Wonder how fast the 1000uF capacitor is charged up to 10V?
Using the plasma ball the capacitor charges very fast..
lol, is it 1/2 second? 1 second?
And how many volts? 7.6V? 9.2V?