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Title: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: brian334 on July 26, 2011, 04:33:25 PM
A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
War is hell. War is part of evolution. That’s just the way it go’s.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 26, 2011, 05:18:41 PM
Quotewar...
war never changes..

since the dawn of human kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from god, to justice, to simple psychotic rage.

in the year 2077, after millenia of armed conflict, the destructive nature of man could sustain itself no longer. the world was plunged into an abyss of nuclear fire, and radiation.

but it was not, as some had predicted, the end of the world. instead, the apocalypse was just the prologue to another bloody chapter of human history. for man, had succeeded destroying the world...

but war...
war never changes...
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: brian334 on July 26, 2011, 05:33:50 PM
Americans like war.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 26, 2011, 05:51:51 PM
Quote from: brian334 on July 26, 2011, 05:33:50 PM
Americans like war.
i thought this was about a norwegian man??? how did you twist it into being about americans?
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: loosecannon on July 26, 2011, 05:57:05 PM
Quote from: brian334 on July 26, 2011, 04:33:25 PM
A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
War is hell. War is part of evolution. That’s just the way it go’s.

well, i guess Hitler was also just a man willing to fight for what he believed in.

killing people in order to make your point known is cowardly and unimaginative.

history shows that it doesn't change anything.

war may be hell, but it is also just an excuse.
LC
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: brian334 on July 26, 2011, 06:00:30 PM
I am a American, and I know you half to fight to be free.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: brian334 on July 26, 2011, 06:05:22 PM
Hitler was elected, it took a war to get rid of him.
Fool.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: IotaYodi on July 26, 2011, 06:56:19 PM
Quotehistory shows that it doesn't change anything.
Tell that to the American Indians,Germany and even the Japanese empire.
War has changed things remarkably throughout history. 
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: loosecannon on July 26, 2011, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: brian334 on July 26, 2011, 06:05:22 PM
Hitler was elected, it took a war to get rid of him.
Fool.

the Norwegian man is insane.  the only war going on was the one in his brain.

also, anyone who can't spell the word "goes", and would use a possessive apostrophe in it has no business calling me a fool.
if you are "a American", you might want to study up on our language.

iotayodi,
i meant that in a much broader sense, as in, name something that existed before a war that didnt exist after it.
obviously the semantics of my statement could be argued ad nauseum; i was just clarifying my point.
LC
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 26, 2011, 11:15:56 PM
kill 92 & you're a fiend.
kill 92,000 & you're the president.
kill 'em all & you're god.

the mass media secretly love mass slaughter. so many empty hours of programming time instantly filled. so many talking heads with so many opportunities to talk. to tsk tsk & 'sympathize' & emote emotions they've stopped feeling ages ago.

they love mass slaughter. as do we; their loyal, bored & utterly empty viewing audience.

Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 27, 2011, 02:32:39 AM
kill someone while wearing jeans and a tshirt for your own ideology and you're a madman.
kill someone while wearing fatigues for a government's ideology and you're a hero.

i'm getting mixed messages... ;)
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 27, 2011, 09:12:35 AM
Quote from: brian334 on July 26, 2011, 04:33:25 PM
A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
War is hell. War is part of evolution. That’s just the way it go’s.

what do you do when a radical dog goes on a killing spree and is caught.

it is put down.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on July 27, 2011, 04:12:20 PM
Quote from: IotaYodi on July 26, 2011, 06:56:19 PM
Tell that to the American Indians,Germany and even the Japanese empire.
War has changed things remarkably throughout history.
I'm a Native American, and a Jew.  I'm also slightly Norwegian on my Dad's side.
    I know what the above mentioned ethnic groups have felt.  It's part of me inside, too.

If someone desires to make more heavy karma for him/herself he or she can do it.  All have free will until they die.  Then God can judge.
   I said I was a Jew.  We believe God sees and knows all.  Nobody can hide or lie about it.

Anders, the maniac, has a future problem as long as he lives:  He can be hunted down and shot like he did to the children.  After that, God can have him.  Good riddance.

--Lee
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: brian334 on July 27, 2011, 04:46:42 PM
How in the world can anyone believe war does not change anything?
Ask the dead people that died in the war if war changed anything.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: brian334 on July 27, 2011, 05:02:29 PM

I know one thing for sure, you half to fight to be free. If you are not willing to fight for your freedom than some asshole is going to make you there slave.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 28, 2011, 12:07:37 AM
Quote from: brian334 on July 27, 2011, 05:02:29 PM
I know one thing for sure, you half to fight to be free. If you are not willing to fight for your freedom than some asshole is going to make you there slave.

you have been a slave since you were born, depending on what country you live in gives you your determined human rights.

hopefully you were born in America with the greatest human rights.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 28, 2011, 12:31:04 AM
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 28, 2011, 12:07:37 AM
you have been a slave since you were born, depending on what country you live in gives you your determined human rights.

hopefully you were born in America with the greatest human rights.
slaves don't have rights... the idea of rights is diametrically opposed to the idea of slavery. are you practicing your '1984 doublethink'?
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 28, 2011, 10:10:47 AM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on July 28, 2011, 12:31:04 AM
slaves don't have rights... the idea of rights is diametrically opposed to the idea of slavery. are you practicing your '1984 doublethink'?

born in the wrong place at the wrong time sucks.

just a free roaming beast of burden.
Jerry 8)
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: brian334 on July 28, 2011, 11:15:21 AM
If you don’t like war think of war this way.
Abortion is killing little people, war is killing big people.

Not much difference.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: brian334 on July 28, 2011, 03:18:15 PM
What happens if when this man go’s to trial some one on the jury agrees with him and he is not convicted?
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on July 28, 2011, 03:53:31 PM
Quote from: brian334 on July 28, 2011, 03:18:15 PM
What happens if when this man go’s to trial some one on the jury agrees with him and he is not convicted?
I don't know about Norwegian law, but I really think if he's found 'not guilty' by reason of insanity (he actually confessed to the murders; he not sorry for them, however), he's not going anywhere.
He'll still be hunted down and executed, probably by a victim's friend or relative.  He's marked for life.  Think of James Earl Ray.  http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby

--Lee
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: brian334 on July 28, 2011, 04:45:54 PM
What happens if when he go’s to trial he is not convicted?
He would be a free man.
Than what happens if he runs for Prime Minster and is elected?
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 28, 2011, 04:56:47 PM
Quote from: brian334 on July 28, 2011, 11:15:21 AM
If you don’t like war think of war this way.
Abortion is killing little people, war is killing big people.

Not much difference.
wrong. a fetus is not a person... where do you guys come up with this crap?
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: brian334 on July 28, 2011, 06:27:23 PM
I guess there is a difference of opinion on who or what is a person.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 28, 2011, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: brian334 on July 28, 2011, 06:27:23 PM
I guess there is a difference of opinion on who or what is a person.
regardless... the 'opinion' that matters is that of the law.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: brian334 on July 28, 2011, 07:05:49 PM
I could be wrong but I don’t think the guy that murdered all those people cares about the law.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: poynt99 on July 28, 2011, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on July 28, 2011, 06:40:10 PM
regardless... the 'opinion' that matters is that of the law.
"Matters" to whom?

What's quoted is an opinion.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 28, 2011, 07:51:06 PM
Quote from: poynt99 on July 28, 2011, 07:14:42 PM
"Matters" to whom?

What's quoted is an opinion.
'matters' to the law... the guys that WILL  come and remove your 'rights'.

it could be argued as opinion or fact. you say it's opinion, i say it is fact... go kill someone (admit it to the 'authorities') and see if you get jailed... and then go have an abortion (admit it to the 'authorities') and see if you get jailed... q.e.d.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 28, 2011, 07:52:19 PM
Quote from: brian334 link=topic=11259.msg2http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=post;msg=296385;topic=11259.15;ffac7b187f=925b539d809934db1eaa435566a2142296376#msg296376 date=1311894349
I could be wrong but I don’t think the guy that murdered all those people cares about the law.
i don't think he does. personally i don't either. law is just some man playing god... which is fundamentally no different than what breivik did.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 28, 2011, 09:47:15 PM
Sometimes we are really fighting for what we believe, but! many times we are wrong because it is in humility where we can find the right way  ;D

@wilby
Wrong logic again! Law is what God given to man for his sake. 

SEE, if we are all fighting for what we believe then there is no peace in this earth ;D

well sometimes some law needs to be validated by many and it should follow the biblical way.  ;)

no one should be above the law and ignorance with the law excuses no one!  ;D
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 28, 2011, 10:03:52 PM
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 28, 2011, 09:47:15 PM
Sometimes we are really fighting for what we believe, but! many times we are wrong because it is in humility where we can find the right way  ;D

@wilby
Wrong logic again! Law is what God given to man for his sake. 

SEE, if we are all fighting for what we believe then there is no peace in this earth ;D

well sometimes some law needs to be validated by many and it should follow the biblical way.  ;)

no one should be above the law and ignorance with the law excuses no one!  ;D
yeah let us explore your "logic" teets... do you have a SINGLE shred of material evidence or a logical proof for the existence of your imaginary godfairy savior friend? furthermore, your holy 'babble' (buy-bull) is full of contradictions and fatal flaws... thus it is not the work of a omnipotent, omniscient being, but the work of man. and if you manage to produce either of those two things, send it in a private msg... your imaginary friends are not the subject of discussion here.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 28, 2011, 10:37:17 PM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on July 28, 2011, 10:03:52 PM
yeah let us explore your "logic" teets... do you have a SINGLE shred of material evidence or a logical proof for the existence of your imaginary godfairy savior friend? furthermore, your holy 'babble' (buy-bull) is full of contradictions and fatal flaws... thus it is not the work of a omnipotent, omniscient being, but the work of man. and if you manage to produce either of those two things, send it in a private msg... your imaginary friends are not the subject of discussion here.

sorry i will answer it here  ;D

oh boy, here we are again , my logic proof is history, an encyclopedia is not a religious organization but! it testify that Jesus lives on this earth once right? and Jesus testify that God is real and he is GOD! a very simple logic that you should accept.   

by the way your babble(buy-bull) is different with mine cause mine spells B I B L E or maybe that's the reason why your babble(buy-bull) has many conflicts  ;D you really need to learn.  :D

if you only looks for contradiction, well, yes you can find but if you looks for accuracy, well, much better.

my friends are not the topic but they are the root of the topic, got that?
;D
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 29, 2011, 12:18:10 AM
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 28, 2011, 10:37:17 PM
sorry i will answer it here  ;D

oh boy, here we are again , my logic proof is history, an encyclopedia is not a religious organization but! it testify that Jesus lives on this earth once right? and Jesus testify that God is real and he is GOD! a very simple logic that you should accept.   

by the way your babble(buy-bull) is different with mine cause mine spells B I B L E or maybe that's the reason why your babble(buy-bull) has many conflicts  ;D you really need to learn.  :D

if you only looks for contradiction, well, yes you can find but if you looks for accuracy, well, much better.

my friends are not the topic but they are the root of the topic, got that?
;D
congrats, you just made my ignore list.

here is evidence from your own holy babble that it is logically flawed...
PR 30:5 every word of god proves true.
1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, JE 4:10, JE 20:7, EZ 14:9 god deceives some of the prophets.
JE 8:8 the scribes (copyists, editors, teachers) falsify the word.
2TH 2:11-12 god deceives the wicked (to be able to condemn them).
(note: not every word of god can prove true if god deceives anyone at all; teaching from the bible cannot be trusted if the scribes falsify the word. in other words, the first reference is mutually exclusive with the other three. thus, the bible cannot be the perfect work of a perfect, all-powerful and loving god since one or more of the above references is obviously untrue.)
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 29, 2011, 12:36:03 AM
as what i have said, you can find conflicts if you treated it  as a conflict, the bible is made as a puzzle that an uneducated person can decipher and that is what you cannot reach. humble yourself to God and you can see GOD.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 29, 2011, 01:21:42 AM
no bible has any scientific or physics principles, it is not the bible who holds truth but the followers of truth itself, science and physics. you plagiarize science and physics with your garbage to extend your garbage..

quit mixing your damn religion with science and physics.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: spiralout on July 29, 2011, 10:23:58 AM

B.I.B.L.E - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth

No more... no less...
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 29, 2011, 05:16:18 PM
Quote from: spiralout on July 29, 2011, 10:23:58 AM
B.I.B.L.E - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth

No more... no less...
leaving earth for where?  ::)
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: spiralout on July 29, 2011, 06:32:57 PM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on July 29, 2011, 05:16:18 PM
leaving earth for where?  ::)

if you have to ask, the answer is death...
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 29, 2011, 06:49:03 PM
Quote from: spiralout on July 29, 2011, 06:32:57 PM
if you have to ask, the answer is death...
you don't leave earth when you die... ::) unless you are having your remains transported via rocket off the planet...

you still didn't answer the question... leaving the earth for WHERE?
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: spiralout on July 29, 2011, 07:38:48 PM
forget it, it's pointless... our perspectives are to far apart...

Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on July 29, 2011, 07:47:53 PM
Quote from: spiralout on July 29, 2011, 07:38:48 PM
forget it, it's pointless... our perspectives are to far apart...
our perspectives are irrelevant... it's a simple question, leaving the earth for where?
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 29, 2011, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 29, 2011, 01:21:42 AM
no bible has any scientific or physics principles, it is not the bible who holds truth but the followers of truth itself, science and physics. you plagiarize science and physics with your garbage to extend your garbage..

quit mixing your damn religion with science and physics.

it is God who made everything so that you can study, and physics is just one component of his creation, JESUS is the walking bible and he is the truth and not garbage, i'm not mixing it i'm just crossing.

by the way you are accountable to what you have  said!
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: ramset on July 29, 2011, 11:27:58 PM
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Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 30, 2011, 12:31:34 AM
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 29, 2011, 09:05:26 PM
it is God who made everything so that you can study, and physics is just one component of his creation, JESUS is the walking bible and he is the truth and not garbage, i'm not mixing it i'm just crossing.

by the way you are accountable to what you have  said!

nope, not accountable in the least.

there is no god, gods, angels demons, ghosts, Santa clause, Easter bunny, st. Patrick is dead what do I care.

your superstition has no power over anyone unless they have weak minds.

do you take pride in taking of weak minds???
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 03, 2011, 03:45:23 AM
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 30, 2011, 12:31:34 AM
nope, not accountable in the least.

there is no god, gods, angels demons, ghosts, Santa clause, Easter bunny, st. Patrick is dead what do I care.

your superstition has no power over anyone unless they have weak minds.

do you take pride in taking of weak minds???

:D weak minds, weak logic, are applicable for those who can't accept that there is God inspite of its obvious presence, even in your conscience  ;)

PS. if you look for evidence then you cannot see God but if you look for faith then God will reveal his presence.  ;)
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: Low-Q on August 03, 2011, 05:56:04 AM
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 29, 2011, 12:36:03 AM
as what i have said, you can find conflicts if you treated it  as a conflict, the bible is made as a puzzle that an uneducated person can decipher and that is what you cannot reach. humble yourself to God and you can see GOD.
Before someone can see God, they must be told what God is first. Looking for something you do not have any discription of, is hard to find.

Vidar
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on August 03, 2011, 12:37:10 PM
Quote from: Low-Q on August 03, 2011, 05:56:04 AM
Before someone can see God, they must be told what God is first. Looking for something you do not have any discription of, is hard to find.

Vidar
Good point, IMHO.  Now, here's something that might be hard to find:  Whatever lies beyond apparently infinite space.  Would one find God?   How would one know?  Why or why not?

Beliefs are about as subjective as things can get, to my thinking.  Everyone's perceptions are unique, and their life's experiences are, too.  What is God?  What is infinity?  I'd say unknowable.

Where is that genius(!?!?) WilbyInebriated when his sometimes insulting "wit" is available to render a definite answer?  To God existence?  Yeah, right!  His opinion doesn't faze me in the slightest.  But I laugh inside when I read some of the things he writes.  Amusement is about all he's good for to me.

--Lee
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 04, 2011, 04:06:02 AM
Quote from: Low-Q on August 03, 2011, 05:56:04 AM
Before someone can see God, they must be told what God is first. Looking for something you do not have any discription of, is hard to find.

Vidar

REad the bible JESUS already testified, anything that human can't do then that is for God.
Title: Re: A Norwegian man willing to fight for what he believes in.
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 06, 2011, 04:30:08 AM
if you fight for something that you think is true to you then you have to consult others and study it carefully first to validate if what you've fight is correct. oh boy what an english  ;D

take note: and fighting is not always the answer right ?  ;D