Ah nothing like work off paper
pick
another
pay attention
Brief : pend swings down, top activates shuttle shift ( bottom on bearings ) creates throwing like action in forward motion before B.D.C. pend climbs to top of fixed swing and cycle is restarted in opposite direction . Not all pieces of the puzzle shown
now if I made this out of aluminum and did some nice work , one might think I passed the paper and wood and nails stage.
You guys get the free idea yet ? 8)
Nice work!
If you want to keep a secret, you should not have published the photos.
If you want people to be interested in your work, you should not speak in riddles.
May be this thread will take a turn into a meaningful exchange of information and knowledge?
Greetings, Conrad
conradelektro (http://www.overunity.com/../../../../../profile/conradelektro.22881/)Ah ..well said But "do they not say a picture say's a 1000 words" . now these " 5 " pictures are over a year old so I guess you could say they are words of wisdom. There is no secret in what I posted as you can see it. there is even a brief of how it works !
I just passed on a hint , And a look .
Now if you would like a copy of the final Cad drawings with the video and a complete work up of explanations, your gonna have to wait awhile longer till Hell freeze's over . Until then your just gonna have to use your brain.
thank you
Quote from: protech on April 13, 2012, 07:31:18 PM
conradelektro (http://www.overunity.com/../../../../../profile/conradelektro.22881/)Ah ..well said But "do they not say a picture say's a 1000 words" . now these " 5 " pictures are over a year old so I guess you could say they are words of wisdom. There is no secret in what I posted as you can see it. there is even a brief of how it works !
I just passed on a hint , And a look .
Now if you would like a copy of the final Cad drawings with the video and a complete work up of explanations, your gonna have to wait awhile longer till Hell freeze's over . Until then your just gonna have to use your brain.
thank you
Congratulations, now go fuck yourself.
This is Open Source Community so fuck off you idiot!
Ghost I'm sorry, your right, I should just leave you alone with your crayons and spoon . By your comment I know you are a real smart girl . I SHOWED YOU MINE NOW SHOW ME YOURS.
open source has to start some place, please tell me how it's done
Quote from: protech on April 13, 2012, 09:12:59 PM
Ghost I'm sorry, your right, I should just leave you alone with your crayons and spoon . By your comment I know you are a real smart girl . I SHOWED YOU MINE NOW SHOW ME YOURS.
open source has to start some place, please tell me how it's done
You do not show open source.
How's it done? Go here http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS
Now if you're going to be playing these games... which is nothing new like many others before you, well then, GO FUCK YOURSELF.
Have a nice day :-)
Peace.
Quote from: protech on April 12, 2012, 06:35:22 PM
Brief : pend swings down, top activates shuttle shift ( bottom on bearings ) creates throwing like action in forward motion before B.D.C. pend climbs to top of fixed swing and cycle is restarted in opposite direction . Not all pieces of the puzzle shown
Hi Protech,
Sorry to see that your attempt to show something started this way....
Am I right when I say that you show at least 2 (possibly 3) different pendulums in the photos you uploaded?
If so you must be at this for a long time already. They're nice pieces of work!
To get right to the bottom line (and which everyone wants to know); Are they special?
From you're brief explanation I gather that the construction at the top of the pendulum somehow propels the shuttle at the bottom. This shuttle then keeps the pendulum going?
Hope you can give us some more clues to what you're showing!
regards Dutchy
dutchy1966 They are all the same pendulum, and you are dead on about the top. The pictures were not in order but the top with all assembly is the secret ( pick 3), notice the black cables running down they pull shift the shuttle.the shuttle sits in a cradle on bearings and will move so free that if its off level by a degree will roll to that side .
the pendulum is set in the final operation to swing 130 degrees I had a lot of trouble with over swing had to put stops on TD swing. Get a zoom add on for your browser and you will see more the shuttle bearings are like train wheels with flange.
The shuttle creates a throwing action of the pendulum as long as it moves before bottom center . And it does this in both directions.
I'm showing this one as the top limited a greater swing even though it is adjustable in out up down. In other words I have moved on .
Its all there if you look
here is another little goodie the pendulum will rotate 360 degrees in manual mode ( currently shown )with just a 1/2 inch movement of the shuttle , when this happens the whole process changes and it will maintain a constant rotation . yes I have moved on
GHOST I would imagine you would have trouble with open source of sharpening a pencil, your mouth gives away your intelligence. I figure you are young maybe you even finished grade school. but still I see nothing you have done .
Open source is when some one puts out a idea and people add to it...........and your productive contribution in anything is what ?
Hi,
really hard to understand what you mean.
Would like to see a video of what you are building.
Also if it is not yet selfrunning, but to get an idea...
Many thanks in advance.
Regards, Stefan.
Quote from: protech on April 14, 2012, 06:50:19 PM
GHOST I would imagine you would have trouble with open source of sharpening a pencil, your mouth gives away your intelligence. I figure you are young maybe you even finished grade school. but still I see nothing you have done .
Open source is when some one puts out a idea and people add to it...........and your productive contribution in anything is what ?
The idea would have to be shared as a whole and not partially to be considered open source. Then people can add to it...
And if I ever achieve over unity/free energy I would share it in a hart beat! So far I have not, not yet anyway.
so don't give me that shit!
Can you believe this guy? lol!
Jesus fucking Christ! Get over yourself.
Have a nice day :-)
peace.
I give up....when the Idiot is gone, I will return to continue , for people interested please use PM
Thank God!
This way you'll be doing us (most of us anyway) all a favor.
Have a nice day :-)
Peace.
I thought it was me ! I love it . It seems that when you expect people to THINK they take offense . Protech maybe you and I should team up for my project ... seems we have the same friends . No actually he is right , this is an OS website and everyone here promises to deliver although the substance of what they promise is not so cut and dried .
Quote from: protech on April 13, 2012, 09:12:59 PM
Ghost I'm sorry, your right, I should just leave you alone with your crayons and spoon . By your comment I know you are a real smart girl . I SHOWED YOU MINE NOW SHOW ME YOURS.
open source has to start some place, please tell me how it's done
If you look at my posts over the last few years, you'll see a good example.
The designs posted also include a very workable pendulum.
Myself, am prepping to build using wood. Do believe that is what Bessler
used. And in a sense, it will be much more complex than your simple build.
Still, nice show :o
Myself, have made so many parts from aluminum, wood will be a nice change
of pace 8)
Jim
edited to add; machinist by trade :D
@Chris, sure you're not AB Hammer ?
No . I'm Johann Bessler reincarnate. ;)
Quote from: protech on April 12, 2012, 06:17:49 PM
Ah nothing like work off paper
Hi ProTech,
I think you do nice work. I do have a proposition fort you and the memebers of this forum.
I know what you were thinking when you built your pendulum. I tried getting a similar idea
across to someone else. Since then, I have realized how to make it work.
The attached diagram shows the difference in potential a swinging weight has. By understanding
this, we can understand how we can use it. As an example, if the weight swings in to an angle of
30 degrees, it's side ways movement will be about 1/2 the distance it is from it's fulcrum.
I think you will understand the drawing better than others. With all of the different blue prints you've
probably have looked at, you'll get it.
When the swing weight is in it's inner position, it will be a value of 4 from the center line of the
cross beams fulcrum. If the counter weight is a value of 10 from the same center line, there is a difference
in potential that can be taken advantage of.
As such things go, when the swinging weight is allowed to swing to it's outer position, it would be a value
of 16 from the center line. This would cause the cross beam to want to tilt in that direction.
While most people would look at the drop and lift of the fulcrum of tyhe swinging weight, that is not what
would allow it to work. What would is when the swinging weight is caught in it's inner postion, it can then
be hoisted a little higher while the cross beam is tilting in the direction of the counter weight. And that would
be the secret.
And what would it take to make this all happen ? IMHO, if the people int his forum asked you to modify or
recycle your build and took an interest in it while you worked on it. I know it is a lot of work and it is probably
something you would find frustrating at times. After all, you are experienced when it comes to building and
making things. Your work shows this. Unfortunately, most people in here do not have your skills. But then,
if they were to talk you into working on something like this, then maybe you can teach them a little about
what it takes to build something like what you've done.
As for the patent rights if the concept works ? Give them to the Salvation Army. This will keep greed out
of this. And what would be in it for you ? As for the rest of us, possibly some life time friendships worth
having. And for you / You would probably find you would get a little more as you would be the man who
built it. I think people would be wanting to meet you if not at least see you on t.v.
And as for Christo, I think it was Jesus who said throw pearls before swine and they will trample the
pearls and then trample you.
In the end proTech, it is up to you and is something for you to think about. As for everyone else, why not
take the chance on making a friend and possibly being a part of getting it to happen. After all, I think PT
would appreciate the interest you guys would show in his work and you might find it interesting what it
takes to make something like this. As for the engineering, I think it is somethign all of you can understand, even
if it takes a little time. And in the end, I think this is something we would all benefit from.
Jim
I know the drawing doesn't show up the clearest, so ...
@All,
I am going into private building.
The primary reason is I believe Christo4_99 is Alan Bauldree. He has used other aliases like Lady Silver Belles and grayone (his sons account which he used).
His desire is to take credit for my work. And by using a fake name like Christo (actually should be spelled Cristo, Alan is also a poor speller). As such, while he wishes to be famous, he is to lazy to do the work. Her knows religious people would believe he is responsible for me by posting how he hates builders and thinks it is all about the Benjamins.
I think it is sad that he would try to take someone's hobby and use it as an opportunity for himself. What was it he (Christo/AB Hammer posted int he thread Bessler's brilliant device ? He will not let me pigeon hole Bessler's work in a forum for over unity.
This means he will do what he has to to turn it into something religious. An ignorant man's get famous the easy way scam.
Kind of makes me wish I never attended church or read the Bible. But Alan has posted previously he does not believe I should be allowed to be responsible for myself.
Of course, in a thread Ralph Lortie started soliciting build ideas as he wished to prove Broli wrong about him was when I first suggested donating any invention to charity. And why would I have done so ? Without any written legal agreement in place, anyone posting in the thread would have a claim to the invention and as such would have the right to sue for what they believe their contribution was worth. And with people like Christo/AB Hammer, I believe they would be willing to sue. this would mean that the courts could freeze any money to be made for many years as things work through the courts. In the mean time, the lawyers would be making all of the money.
And it would be like AB Hammer/Christo to turn something like that into something like they are Jesus and are taking over the work and taking credit for it.
Also, while it would make some money, fighting over it could make it worth little and the stress it could bring into people's lives might not be worth any financial gain.
That is the reality and yes, I do believe Chris Wells to be Alan Bauldree. While it is also possible he just like Alan and wants credit because he has that big of an ego. Watch American Greed, there are a lot of scam artists out there trying what ever they can to make a buck. What I find funny is someone coming into a forum like this and using the screen name Christ.
As such, I will be mailing the patent paper today. It costs only $110.00 for a provisional patent. As such, while I have opened this idea, I will close it by completing the design.
The 2 levers that are @ a right angle will use leverage to lift the pendulum's weight higher than the tilting of the cross beam would allow. This will allow it to swing ina state of perpetuality by stopping the pendulum's weight in it's inner position and holding it until it is lifted.
The lever doing the leveraging will be on a pin that has 2 flat sides. When sufficient rotation occurs, the leveraging lever can slide downwards ( to the right ) releasing the pendulum's weight.
The reason the pendulum's weight can be lifted using leverage is that the counter balance weight could have in the axample shown 2 1/2 times more force. As shown, 25% of this force would be used to tilt the cross beam lift the fulcrum and the pendulum's weight. This would leave 75% of the force of which some can be used by the leveraging lever to increase the potential of the pendulum's weight while still allowing the counter balance to be the greater force.
And to think, my brother Harold wondered why I spent my evenings studying math. Of course, he would also say I helped him when he needed it ebcause of possibly what I learned in church. My family did not attend, but my friend's family did. And one thing I remember reading in the Bible is the parable of the shifting sand. With my hearing loss, math was the foundation that helped me. And for the amount of work I have put into everything, some times the lazy ones like Chris (not Cristo) and Alan miss the point of, things quit being about money but about trying to have a decent life where you (me, I) don't have to worry about people like them making my life difficult. But since they are lazy minded people, they don't have a clue about what respect is. This is one reason why Chris (a.k.a. AB Hammer ?) would say they are Bessler reincarnated. And to me, that is sad.
Jim
had to switch pics :o
p.s. the 1st Amendment allows me the right to say I believe Chris and Alan are possibly the same people and if not share the same values of which in this instance is to try to claim responsibility for my beliefs and or values.
@All,
Thi idea is based on Milkovics TSO.
I have tried contacting him. It seems my ideas are not worth his while.
What some might miss is the amount of work that goes into something like this. There is quite a bit to it. One reason why so few people are like ProTech and actually take the time to build.
With the amount of improvements I have made, I would have to believe that if others helped to realize a working prototype, that we would deserve credit for the work we put into realizing an accomplishment.
If Chris got one thing right, it is that people deserve something for their efforts when they are successful.
Jim
Quote from: johnny874 on May 05, 2012, 04:52:07 PM
@All,
I am going into private building.
The primary reason is I believe Christo4_99 is Alan Bauldree. He has used other aliases like Lady Silver Belles and grayone (his sons account which he used).
His desire is to take credit for my work. And by using a fake name like Christo (actually should be spelled Cristo, Alan is also a poor speller). As such, while he wishes to be famous, he is to lazy to do the work. Her knows religious people would believe he is responsible for me by posting how he hates builders and thinks it is all about the Benjamins.
I think it is sad that he would try to take someone's hobby and use it as an opportunity for himself. What was it he (Christo/AB Hammer posted int he thread Bessler's brilliant device ? He will not let me pigeon hole Bessler's work in a forum for over unity.
This means he will do what he has to to turn it into something religious. An ignorant man's get famous the easy way scam.
Kind of makes me wish I never attended church or read the Bible. But Alan has posted previously he does not believe I should be allowed to be responsible for myself.
Of course, in a thread Ralph Lortie started soliciting build ideas as he wished to prove Broli wrong about him was when I first suggested donating any invention to charity. And why would I have done so ? Without any written legal agreement in place, anyone posting in the thread would have a claim to the invention and as such would have the right to sue for what they believe their contribution was worth. And with people like Christo/AB Hammer, I believe they would be willing to sue. this would mean that the courts could freeze any money to be made for many years as things work through the courts. In the mean time, the lawyers would be making all of the money.
And it would be like AB Hammer/Christo to turn something like that into something like they are Jesus and are taking over the work and taking credit for it.
Also, while it would make some money, fighting over it could make it worth little and the stress it could bring into people's lives might not be worth any financial gain.
That is the reality and yes, I do believe Chris Wells to be Alan Bauldree. While it is also possible he just like Alan and wants credit because he has that big of an ego. Watch American Greed, there are a lot of scam artists out there trying what ever they can to make a buck. What I find funny is someone coming into a forum like this and using the screen name Christ.
As such, I will be mailing the patent paper today. It costs only $110.00 for a provisional patent. As such, while I have opened this idea, I will close it by completing the design.
The 2 levers that are @ a right angle will use leverage to lift the pendulum's weight higher than the tilting of the cross beam would allow. This will allow it to swing ina state of perpetuality by stopping the pendulum's weight in it's inner position and holding it until it is lifted.
The lever doing the leveraging will be on a pin that has 2 flat sides. When sufficient rotation occurs, the leveraging lever can slide downwards ( to the right ) releasing the pendulum's weight.
The reason the pendulum's weight can be lifted using leverage is that the counter balance weight could have in the axample shown 2 1/2 times more force. As shown, 25% of this force would be used to tilt the cross beam lift the fulcrum and the pendulum's weight. This would leave 75% of the force of which some can be used by the leveraging lever to increase the potential of the pendulum's weight while still allowing the counter balance to be the greater force.
And to think, my brother Harold wondered why I spent my evenings studying math. Of course, he would also say I helped him when he needed it ebcause of possibly what I learned in church. My family did not attend, but my friend's family did. And one thing I remember reading in the Bible is the parable of the shifting sand. With my hearing loss, math was the foundation that helped me. And for the amount of work I have put into everything, some times the lazy ones like Chris (not Cristo) and Alan miss the point of, things quit being about money but about trying to have a decent life where you (me, I) don't have to worry about people like them making my life difficult. But since they are lazy minded people, they don't have a clue about what respect is. This is one reason why Chris (a.k.a. AB Hammer ?) would say they are Bessler reincarnated. And to me, that is sad.
Jim
had to switch pics :o
p.s. the 1st Amendment allows me the right to say I believe Chris and Alan are possibly the same people and if not share the same values of which in this instance is to try to claim responsibility for my beliefs and or values.
Get over yourself Jim.
Cristo4_99 is just another person you are arguing with. You are the one who has had so many sign-ins it seems we would almost need a calculator to add them up. You must still blame me for your many banned names from other sights for your actions not mine.
This is how I feel-
I have no time for you, or your delusions. You just can't help yourself but to try to drag me down, taking every chance to put my name into what you don't like. So why don't you do us all a favor. Take a long walk off a short peer in shark infested waters.
You have never showed anything in your 2nd grade attempts as a designer that I would ever want.
I don't take claim of anybody else's designs. The wheel is bigger than all of us.
SO LEAVE ME OUT OF YOUR DELUSIONS JIM >:(
alan.
I had Stefan delete my old account because of you.
Anyone can check the thread My Current Build when I used BA Hammer.
Even being treated for cancer, all I hdard was you.
And yet what have you shown :) like chris, nothing.
And what have I shown ? A very workable concept where I am willing to work with others.
Of course, I do have the Bessler. So I guess I do believe I do deserve some credit for my work.
That could be one issue Protech has.
But then, you and chris want recognition without contributing anything.
protech,
kind of why working off line might b better.
had someone tell me once they like alan because he is entertaining and no one in here believes it is possible.
what I think is funny is that alan thinks they think he is smart when they dont really care.
got Bessler to work on and will take my time.
bye
Jim
Quote from: AB Hammer on May 06, 2012, 11:00:38 AM
Get over yourself Jim.
Cristo4_99 is just another person you are arguing with. You are the one who has had so many sign-ins it seems we would almost need a calculator to add them up. You must still blame me for your many banned names from other sights for your actions not mine.
This is how I feel-
I have no time for you, or your delusions. You just can't help yourself but to try to drag me down, taking every chance to put my name into what you don't like. So why don't you do us all a favor. Take a long walk off a short peer in shark infested waters.
I don't take claim of anybody else's designs. The wheel is bigger than all of us.
SO LEAVE ME OUT OF YOUR DELUSIONS JIM >:(
Alan
I think this sums it up, << You have never showed anything in your 2nd grade attempts as a designer that I would ever want. >>
What are your last words ? what you want. It really hasn't mattered to you the medical problems I've been dealing with.
Math is an important tool in understanding how overunity works. Ideals are worthless unless there is the knowledge available to engineer them.
Protech could build Tom's pendulum easily. No reason he should want to.
And Alan, I don't like you and it is personal. You've always disliked the way I use math to understand what I'm doing. Not sure if I'll build Bessler's wheel. Any more it is a stupid joke. Look at besslerwheel dot com where you're a highly respected person. And for what ? Participating in a forum where rlortie who finances it openly posts "why try, it's been 300 years". And he's #1 on the credible list.
You did do what you could to discredit the design I've been pursuing. Your posts are still there. But who knows, maybe you can talk to Protech and maybe you and him can help with Tom's idea. It's one that is easy enough to test the lift by opening the scissors, then step by step work through it. After all, you're a metal smith, so maybe you guys can show off your skills a little by working together.
Jim
Quote from: johnny874 on May 06, 2012, 12:31:16 PM
alan.
I had Stefan delete my old account because of you.
Anyone can check the thread My Current Build when I used BA Hammer.
Even being treated for cancer, all I hdard was you.
And yet what have you shown :) like chris, nothing.
And what have I shown ? A very workable concept where I am willing to work with others.
Of course, I do have the Bessler. So I guess I do believe I do deserve some credit for my work.
That could be one issue Protech has.
But then, you and chris want recognition without contributing anything.
Tell the truth Jim. You had Stefan delete your old account to hide your harassment of myself and your incompetency. Not to mention all the readers have to do is look up my strings and see I have posted way more than you here. You keep complaining about your cancer, that has not killed you and I am not complaining about my disabilities for they have no place here. I guess mine don't count in your world either (does it.) You need to quit using your cancer history as a crutch. Get over it, or you will make your life more miserable.
Quote from: AB Hammer on May 13, 2012, 01:01:08 PM
Tell the truth Jim. You had Stefan delete your old account to hide your harassment of myself and your incompetency. Not to mention all the readers have to do is look up my strings and see I have posted way more than you here. You keep complaining about your cancer, that has not killed you and I am not complaining about my disabilities for they have no place here. I guess mine don't count in your world either (does it.) You need to quit using your cancer history as a crutch. Get over it, or you will make your life more miserable.
You're funny Alan. You believe being agressive is what ? I think going for my 5th surgery in 3 years is a problem. You don't think so.
I think missing a full year of work over the last 3 years is a problem. You don't.
You have based your credibility on attacking me. Like this idea I am in the proces of building. Heck, it's posted openly in this forum.
And anyone can read for themself that you asked Scott to delete all my posts.
http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4656 (http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4656)
Also, I will be rebuilding the 4 weighted wheel, the one in the thread "My Current Build" where you tried telling me what I was allowed to do.
I do not answer to you, why do you think I am a child that must answer to someone who does not have anything to do with me ? As you have always bragged, you are a private builder that refuses to share information as everyone wants your secrets. This is a forum where idea's are meant to be discussed. I think you're justa con artist hoping to rip soemone off for an easy payday.
Quote from: AB Hammer on May 13, 2012, 01:01:08 PM
Tell the truth Jim. You had Stefan delete your old account to hide your harassment of myself and your incompetency. Not to mention all the readers have to do is look up my strings and see I have posted way more than you here. You keep complaining about your cancer, that has not killed you and I am not complaining about my disabilities for they have no place here. I guess mine don't count in your world either (does it.) You need to quit using your cancer history as a crutch. Get over it, or you will make your life more miserable.
>> and I am not complaining about my disabilities for they have no place here. <<
You told me you over came them and could teach me to do the same. You should go to church and get a conscience.
@All,
This is probably what Alan wants me to build. But considering my medical problems are making it difficult, not sure how he thinks his harassment will make anything go better. It hasn't worked yet.
He did post once though that you have to be rough with creative people or you never get anything out of them. i guess he doesn't know that it takes time and a lot of hard work to develop idea's and make them into reality.
Of course, if he really wanted to see it built, he should have been saying I have a good idea and maybe someone who supports Bessler should consider working with me on it. Never happened.
The basis of the idea is that if a lever exerts 10 in. lbs. of force on a lever 1/4 it's length, then the short lever will exert 2 1/2 lbs. of force on a pump. This simply means the pump would have a maximum pumping capacity of 2 1/2 lbs. of fluid. Basic, very basic hydraulic theory. When ever I have tried to explain this, AB Hammer would do nothing but create problems. It seems he has never wanted to see anyone help me with this.
The truth is, when i have surgery Friday, I could be off work for as much as 2 months. That won't give me much opportunity to build. And last week, I worked only about 10 hours and this week will be about 45 minutes. But as Alan said, not a problem for him. It is for me.
Kind of why I don't like him, I like Bessler's work and think he was a very smart person, even by today's standards. And in getting a bessler wheel built, I'd like it to stay about Bessler as he was the inventor, not me. I am fortunate enough to have realized how he accomplished his feat which is quite amazing.
The simple understanding behind his wheel is that the water creates an over balance. As it causes the wheel to rotate, the weighted levers also rotate. Because of this, the weight on the lever gain force. And as they gain force, they pump the water up to the next pump. This causes the wheel to rotate some more and then the weight on the pumps lever gains force, once again pumping water up to the next pump. And that would be why it is called a perpetual wheel. It would continually seek a balance it can not achieve.
Jim
To get a bit more technical, if the pumps open and close 3/8", then the weight on the lever moves 12/8th's (4 x 3/8) or 1.5 inches.
And this is towards center and away from it. It's radial shift would be almost meaningless.
This would change the over all balance of the wheel little if any. But this does take understanding how analysis helps and
without math, this is something that would be missed completely.
And one last point which is probably insignificant, but if centrifigal force is considered something that could perform work,
then in a rotating wheel pumping fluid/water, how much more work can be done because of inertia ?
Jim
@MoRo, not to drag you into this cesspool, but do you think this might make for a better demonstration of what you have
been trying to get everyone to understand ?
Jim
Like I have said many times before over the last few years. Your weights that do the pumping will counter, what you may gain from the fluid flow. Not to mention fluid flow will be somewhat slow. But build on, it is your time just leave me out of it.
PS. I have lost count of how many time I have said leave me out of it. But you keep bringing me up and then go into your Boo Hoo act. Yours or my medical conditions have no place here in the forum.
GET THE POINT !!
Quote from: AB Hammer on May 14, 2012, 10:56:10 PM
Jim
Like I have said many times before over the last few years. Your weights that do the pumping will counter, what you may gain from the fluid flow. Not to mention fluid flow will be somewhat slow. But build on, it is your time just leave me out of it.
PS. I have lost count of how many time I have said leave me out of it. But you keep bringing me up and then go into your Boo Hoo act. Yours or my medical conditions have no place here in the forum.
GET THE POINT !!
Alan,
I didn't figure this out talking about you but ignoring you.
The weights can't possibly cancel the effect of the over balance caused by fluid. If you can't control something, then all you can do is trash it.
The weights cancel each other out. If you knew anything of mechanics and did any real builds, you would know that the shift of any weight on a lever is canceled by the oppossing weight on a lever. That's why you don't like me in here. I actually understand this and you don't. And this leaves only the effect of the fluid. I say fluid because everybody except maybe you knows that oil is a lubricant and wouldn't suffer from cohesion or adhesion. Just not possible. I think that's why they call it a lubricant.
You've always wanted the attention Alan so enjoy it like you did when you kept me from enjoying working on this.
Quote from: johnny874 on May 15, 2012, 09:45:22 AM
Alan,
I didn't figure this out talking about you but ignoring you.
The weights can't possibly cancel the effect of the over balance caused by fluid. If you can't control something, then all you can do is trash it.
The weights cancel each other out. If you knew anything of mechanics and did any real builds, you would know that the shift of any weight on a lever is canceled by the oppossing weight on a lever. That's why you don't like me in here. I actually understand this and you don't. And this leaves only the effect of the fluid. I say fluid because everybody except maybe you knows that oil is a lubricant and wouldn't suffer from cohesion or adhesion. Just not possible. I think that's why they call it a lubricant.
You've always wanted the attention Alan so enjoy it like you did when you kept me from enjoying working on this.
Jim
Are you really that narrow to believe you are the only one who understands? LMAO
You saw my first fluid design and it was to use lite oil for lubrication. So much for your your oil statement.
When I say you counter what you gain. I am talking about the wheel for your weights will have to reset or you are countered, and will not work.
I know a lot about mechanics and have built approximately 30+ wheels to each of your attempts. That is not even counting the movement test. I have also rebuilt car motors and other machines to do work with. Not to mention I specialize in medieval machinery designs and how they were built. So you studied lathe work. But can you build one from scratch without other machinist tools? I can. ;)
Jim, The big problem is. You think you know everything already. So your mind is closed it seems. So you attack when suggestions are given, and that is why you have been banned from so many forums. I do know a lot. But "by far" I don't know everything. Not to mention I am always ready to learn. That's why I keep an open mind.
No one can claim they know how it is done, until it is done. Those who build, do know many ways not to do it though. LOL
PS I have asked you to stop sending me personal messages. But you sent another one again. ::)
Quote from: AB Hammer on May 15, 2012, 10:50:19 PM
Jim
Are you really that narrow to believe you are the only one who understands? LMAO
You saw my first fluid design and it was to use lite oil for lubrication. So much for your your oil statement.
When I say you counter what you gain. I am talking about the wheel for your weights will have to reset or you are countered, and will not work.
I know a lot about mechanics and have built approximately 30+ wheels to each of your attempts. That is not even counting the movement test. I have also rebuilt car motors and other machines to do work with. Not to mention I specialize in medieval machinery designs and how they were built. So you studied lathe work. But can you build one from scratch without other machinist tools? I can. ;)
Jim, The big problem is. You think you know everything already. So your mind is closed it seems. So you attack when suggestions are given, and that is why you have been banned from so many forums. I do know a lot. But "by far" I don't know everything. Not to mention I am always ready to learn. That's why I keep an open mind.
No one can claim they know how it is done, until it is done. Those who build, do know many ways not to do it though. LOL
PS I have asked you to stop sending me personal messages. But you sent another one again. ::)
Alan,
You are ignorant about mechanics. And yes, I am the only one who understands Bessler's wheel and clues. One reason why you are jealous of me. Another reason would be when you did what you could to discredit me along with your friend rlortie is because if I am right about Bessler, it will basically discredit besslerwheel dot com. And everybody there promotes their credibility with the green dots they have showing what they believe is correct.
The pm I sent you was this last statement. And as for your builds, nobody really knows if you've built anything. Sorry, but only open builds are credible.
As to your posting, you mostly discredit people's efforts like you are doing me. It seems you promote a belief in perpetual motion while explaining why people's idea's can not work. Of course, to say something won't work is a safe position to take since perpetual motion is considered impossible.
Jim
p.s. you can always put me on ignore which I notice you haven't done.
edited to add; one reason why I think Alan and Christo4_99 are the same person is because Christo told me he is not going to let me pigeon hole Bessler into fitting into this forum. Alan couldn't post some of the things Christo did because he pursues credibilty at other people's expense.
If you get to know Alan, you'll find out he is a religious person and considers himself an expert on the Bible, you know, a theologian.
And unfortunately for him, I do not care to see Bessler's work made into a religious thing of which there is no credible basis for. This would only serve to discredit the work Bessler did do and of which I believe he deserves recognition for. Like they say, if this were such a simple thing, then everyone would be doing it. But it's not. Even Mt. Everest is scaled on a regular basis. It does have a high death rate of about 1 out of every 10 people that try it do lose their lives. Fortunately, this is much, much safer.
Quote from: johnny874 on May 16, 2012, 12:18:27 PM
Alan,
You are ignorant about mechanics. And yes, I am the only one who understands Bessler's wheel and clues. One reason why you are jealous of me. Another reason would be when you did what you could to discredit me along with your friend rlortie is because if I am right about Bessler, it will basically discredit besslerwheel dot com. And everybody there promotes their credibility with the green dots they have showing what they believe is correct.
The pm I sent you was this last statement. And as for your builds, nobody really knows if you've built anything. Sorry, but only open builds are credible.
As to your posting, you mostly discredit people's efforts like you are doing me. It seems you promote a belief in perpetual motion while explaining why people's idea's can not work. Of course, to say something won't work is a safe position to take since perpetual motion is considered impossible.
Jim
p.s. you can always put me on ignore which I notice you haven't done.
edited to add; one reason why I think Alan and Christo4_99 are the same person is because Christo told me he is not going to let me pigeon hole Bessler into fitting into this forum. Alan couldn't post some of the things Christo did because he pursues credibilty at other people's expense.
If you get to know Alan, you'll find out he is a religious person and considers himself an expert on the Bible, you know, a theologian.
And unfortunately for him, I do not care to see Bessler's work made into a religious thing of which there is no credible basis for. This would only serve to discredit the work Bessler did do and of which I believe he deserves recognition for. Like they say, if this were such a simple thing, then everyone would be doing it. But it's not. Even Mt. Everest is scaled on a regular basis. It does have a high death rate of about 1 out of every 10 people that try it do lose their lives. Fortunately, this is much, much safer.
So Jim !! You admit that you are delusional by your rant of miss direction again. But you claim you are the only one who knows anything about Bessler as you said (highlighted in red). You also need to check Christo4_99 IP address, for it is not even near me. So tell us another lie. It seem to be all you can do.
BTW- Ignore list is funny. So you can slander me without me knowing. LMAO
It is simple Jim. Don't talk about me or to me and I will not have to answer. GET A CLUE DUDE!! ::)
Quote from: AB Hammer on May 16, 2012, 04:01:25 PM
So Jim !! You admit that you are delusional by your rant of miss direction again. But you claim you are the only one who knows anything about Bessler as you said (highlighted in red). You also need to check Christo4_99 IP address, for it is not even near me. So tell us another lie. It seem to be all you can do.
BTW- Ignore list is funny. So you can slander me without me knowing. LMAO
It is simple Jim. Don't talk about me or to me and I will not have to answer. GET A CLUE DUDE!! ::)
Alan,
I have never tried to slander you, but I am allowed my opinion. As you say, you consider my schooling in engineering to mean nothing, nor my experience working with turbines and generators. I am quite familiar with converting different forms of energy.
You most likely are not familiar with how the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics apllies to this, it doesn't. You probably have no clue what latent heat is as well as conduction, convection and radiation, the 3 ways heat energy is transferred. Latent heat is just that, heat energy that has yet to dissipate and it's effected medium to have returned to a normal state which most likely would be room temperature. If you could understand these simple forms of energy transfer and how they apply to arguments against overunity, then you would know the limits of the quest. Your refusal to learn is up to you.
Just wish I had the means to find out if you are Chris or not. he posted like he knew me. But you did tell me you wished to be famous, why you always inserted yourself into any discussion I was having with other people. I have tried to be nice, but since you refuse to accept that I understand this better than you doesn't leave much room for me except to go through you. I have no problem with that.
If you like, when all is said and done, I can see if the thread you started in besslerwheel dot com is slander. You claim I am the world's bigfgest fraud because of, among other things, my medical issues. Also, you requesting Scott to ban me and delete my posts while you post in here that I can not be trusted because Stefan was nice and deleted a previous account because of your continued harrassment towards me.
Of course, you did post that I was a psychopath because of the way I used math to understand engineering and did post a link trying to prove your point.
And as you have mentioned to me, Stefan does have my previous account backed up on his server. Shall I ask him to restore it so people can see what I have tolerated from you while pursuing an understanding of how Bessler accomplished his feat ? I am sure I can get a court order if you like. But I doubt that would shut you up as you refuse to consider that you are in over your head. just imagine if your wife found out that you created an account claiming to be her to try to win support for yourself and how people think of you. Sad, very sad. And I doubt a married woman would ever say she has a marriage contract with her husband so everybody else has to be nice to him. Get a clue Alan, you are not that clever. Everybody else is just that nice in tolerating your attempts at manipulating everybody.
It looks like you guys can perfectly "shift the pendulum" between both of you... ;D
But, what can I say... the whole life is about shifting the pendulum.
Pendulum Shifter
Quote from: Rafael Ti on May 17, 2012, 05:47:33 AM
It looks like you guys can perfectly "shift the pendulum" between both of you... ;D
But, what can I say... the whole life is about shifting the pendulum.
Pendulum Shifter
Raphael,
Wouldn't necessarily say creating energy by shifting but with the methane being produced :o
If all goes well in the morning, am hoping to miss only 2 weeks of work. Also sold some stock.
It does take money to build as well as being in good health.
Jim
Wish your surgery goes well.. and as you stated somewhere.. health is more important than perpetuum mobile.
Good luck Jim !
Quote from: Rafael Ti on May 17, 2012, 11:28:24 AM
Wish your surgery goes well.. and as you stated somewhere.. health is more important than perpetuum mobile.
Good luck Jim !
Thanks Raphael.
Hopefully it won't be much longer before i can get going on the build. I will try an explanation of how free energy is obtained.
With a perpetual wheel, a constant imbalance can be shown by using solid weights. This avenue has been a difficult one.
With a liquid, the wheel would rotate around it. Instead of the liquid falling, the wheel would rotate. This would happen because as the weights on the lever fall, the opposing force / motion would be the liquid. One weight falls and the other is lifted, opposing behaviors.
What helped me to think of this is when I took the time to consider Mt 20. If the weights on the short levers rotated in the opposite direction, counter clockwise, then if something were to create resistence, the weights would have something to push off from. This would mean that as the weights on the long levers fall, they could make the short levers push against something that doesn't rotate with the wheel.
http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=MT_1-20#MT_020 (http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=MT_1-20#MT_020)
Quote from: Rafael Ti on May 17, 2012, 05:47:33 AM
It looks like you guys can perfectly "shift the pendulum" between both of you... ;D
But, what can I say... the whole life is about shifting the pendulum.
Pendulum Shifter
LOL it does seem so. But this problems started over 4 years ago. He tends to get real defencive if anyone disagrees with him. So he tends to attack and it has cost him several forums he was banned at. I have never been banned. I will just leave it at that.
Positive points of Jim, that he now post as johnny847 are. He is good with math and he has had some good training with machines. It is a shame he has health problems but I wish good heath for him.
When Jim finishes his wheel? and I hope he does. He may understand what I have said for the past couple of years, that he has worked on this. The pumping of the fluid up the descending side is a fair idea but to get it to pump without counter balincing what you gained in the wheel is the problem. One day I hope he understand that I have only given him good advice, and am not interested in him except to leave my name out of his postings. We have had to much bad blood and I want it to end.
Quote from: AB Hammer on May 18, 2012, 05:15:26 PM
LOL it does seem so. But this problems started over 4 years ago. He tends to get real defencive if anyone disagrees with him. So he tends to attack and it has cost him several forums he was banned at. I have never been banned. I will just leave it at that.
Positive points of Jim, that he now post as johnny847 are. He is good with math and he has had some good training with machines. It is a shame he has health problems but I wish good heath for him.
When Jim finishes his wheel? and I hope he does. He may understand what I have said for the past couple of years, that he has worked on this. The pumping of the fluid up the descending side is a fair idea but to get it to pump without counter balincing what you gained in the wheel is the problem. One day I hope he understand that I have only given him good advice, and am not interested in him except to leave my name out of his postings. We have had to much bad blood and I want it to end.
Alan,
We Why we don't get along.
reply 2282
>> NO! NO! NO! Jim
I want you to build your wheels. For only then, will you see I was only trying to save you some time and money. But since you don't believe my opinion you have no choice but to build. Also once I finish building my running wheel I will even help you out with the expenses. <<
http://www.overunity.com/7150/sjack-abeling-gravity-wheel-and-the-worlds-first-weight-power-plant/2280/ (http://www.overunity.com/7150/sjack-abeling-gravity-wheel-and-the-worlds-first-weight-power-plant/2280/)
http://www.overunity.com/6900/my-current-build/ (http://www.overunity.com/6900/my-current-build/)
edited to add; Raphael, this is something people in this forum have over looked. It is necessary to test idea's so a person can learn from them.
I started this build just before I was diagnosed with cancer. It has lead me to what I am currently building. It would be easy enough for me to say that they don't believe Bessler built a wheel, so why try ? Alan's friend rlortie did post that very question in besslerwheel dot com, why try when it has been 300 years. It seems more often than not that people in here base their credibility on criticizing other people's efforts.
By the way, for anyone wanting to see a strange discussion, AB Hammer and Bessler007 took over the thread and did nothing but name calling for most of the thread.
Am I glad I have continued with this ? yes I am. One thing it does show is I did not let my medical condition prevent me from making good use of my time.
So, if Alan wants to say I am not credible because I have always shown my work, that is okay as I served in the U.S. Military to protect his right to his freedom of speech but at no time am I required to listen to him. :o
edited to add; Raphael, this is what AB Hammer thinks of my health problems
>> It seems his whole life is nothing but lies and disruptions.
It is hard to fathom someone doing this, unless someone was paying him to disrupt gravity wheel type forums, or he may be mentally ill. <<
I didn't know getting hit by a van going 50 mph and then getting cancer made me a fraud.
http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4656 (http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4656)
And the front page banner >>
Welcome to OverUnity.com The International Open Source Free Energy Research Forum <<It does say open source. It's funny being called a fraud by someone who refuses to show their work. And according to Stefan, I can pursue research in his forum. Not sure why AB Hammer has a problem with this.
And one thing I think does show AB Hammer's true self is he would hold my hearing loss against me which the V.A. considers moderate to severe. One of the reasons why I have had the time to take courses (wanted to go to college so would have made the time anyway) and to study math. And by being successful with what I am working on, then people who haven't had to tolerate discrimination because they are not a disabled vet won't be able to cause me any more problems. It gets old after a while.
Quote from: johnny874 on May 19, 2012, 09:27:21 AM
Alan,
We Why we don't get along.
reply 2282
>> NO! NO! NO! Jim
I want you to build your wheels. For only then, will you see I was only trying to save you some time and money. But since you don't believe my opinion you have no choice but to build. Also once I finish building my running wheel I will even help you out with the expenses. <<
http://www.overunity.com/7150/sjack-abeling-gravity-wheel-and-the-worlds-first-weight-power-plant/2280/ (http://www.overunity.com/7150/sjack-abeling-gravity-wheel-and-the-worlds-first-weight-power-plant/2280/)
http://www.overunity.com/6900/my-current-build/ (http://www.overunity.com/6900/my-current-build/)
edited to add; Raphael, this is something people in this forum have over looked. It is necessary to test idea's so a person can learn from them.
I started this build just before I was diagnosed with cancer. It has lead me to what I am currently building. It would be easy enough for me to say that they don't believe Bessler built a wheel, so why try ? Alan's friend rlortie did post that very question in besslerwheel dot com, why try when it has been 300 years. It seems more often than not that people in here base their credibility on criticizing other people's efforts.
By the way, for anyone wanting to see a strange discussion, AB Hammer and Bessler007 took over the thread and did nothing but name calling for most of the thread.
Am I glad I have continued with this ? yes I am. One thing it does show is I did not let my medical condition prevent me from making good use of my time.
So, if Alan wants to say I am not credible because I have always shown my work, that is okay as I served in the U.S. Military to protect his right to his freedom of speech but at no time am I required to listen to him. :o
edited to add; Raphael, this is what AB Hammer thinks of my health problems
>> It seems his whole life is nothing but lies and disruptions.
It is hard to fathom someone doing this, unless someone was paying him to disrupt gravity wheel type forums, or he may be mentally ill. <<
I didn't know getting hit by a van going 50 mph and then getting cancer made me a fraud.
http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4656 (http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4656)
And the front page banner >>
Welcome to OverUnity.com The International Open Source Free Energy Research Forum <<It does say open source. It's funny being called a fraud by someone who refuses to show their work. And according to Stefan, I can pursue research in his forum. Not sure why AB Hammer has a problem with this.
And one thing I think does show AB Hammer's true self is he would hold my hearing loss against me which the V.A. considers moderate to severe. One of the reasons why I have had the time to take courses (wanted to go to college so would have made the time anyway) and to study math. And by being successful with what I am working on, then people who haven't had to tolerate discrimination because they are not a disabled vet won't be able to cause me any more problems. It gets old after a while.
Jim
(note what I said in red)
Why are you trying to take this out of content? After arguing with you over the designs in question for years and you haven't even built them. I got tired and wanted to try to put an end to this so you could move on to possibly better design. But you would rather ridicue me. ::) I even offered to built one for you at one time, to try to end this BS.
__________________
To all
Note that in the string ( My current build ) Jim used the name BAHammer. This is another reason I called him fraud for he signs in with different names and with this one he seems to have been wanting to be me. Is this what a good person would do? NO!!!
Now he is using the VA like he is the only person ever in the military. LMFAO I am a disabled Vet and I have been spending 1 to 3 days a week at the VA for my disabilities. Instead of fighting my pain like I have done in the past. I finally swallowed my pride and got help and it looks like I am about 80%+ disabled, but yet I still worked. I have been a fighter all my life but sometimes a fighter has give in to health problems. I proudly display the US Coast Guard flag in my office at home.
The second highlighted in red statement is, for Jim has hounded me and as you should note I only posted after Jim saying lies about me on this string. I have a massive collection of emails/PMs he has sent me and will be happy to forward them to any one who wants them. This was to give the authorities if it ever got worse. I was considering pressing charges for him being an internet stalker. But I do consider the source and try to keep forgiveness for him. As you see here on his post he is trying to weave a lie of deception. Then he points out Bessler007 who has been banned from several forums Just like, Jim/P-motion/BAHammer/johnny874 and many many more of Jim's sign in names, but Bessler007 has not sent me crazy emails either.
Note Jim had his P-Motion name and his strings under this name removed from here to hide a lot of his post so they could not be used against him. So what did he want to hide? The truth about James Lindgaard is all I can think of for an answer. >:(
____________________________
PS Jim
Your many sign in names make you a fraud, Your constant lies of myself make you a fraud, Your behind my back PM to people telling lies about me, make you a fraud and you even sent on to my wife >:( .
But I have never called you a fraud for posting designs. That is open sourcing. But your other actions makes it where you can't be trusted for you have give no real reason to be.
Quote from: AB Hammer on May 19, 2012, 11:31:36 PM
Jim
(note what I said in red)
Why are you trying to take this out of content? After arguing with you over the designs in question for years and you haven't even built them. I got tired and wanted to try to put an end to this so you could move on to possibly better design. But you would rather ridicue me. ::) I even offered to built one for you at one time, to try to end this BS.
__________________
To all
Note that in the string ( My current build ) Jim used the name BAHammer. This is another reason I called him fraud for he signs in with different names and with this one he seems to have been wanting to be me. Is this what a good person would do? NO!!!
Now he is using the VA like he is the only person ever in the military. LMFAO I am a disabled Vet and I have been spending 1 to 3 days a week at the VA for my disabilities. Instead of fighting my pain like I have done in the past. I finally swallowed my pride and got help and it looks like I am about 80%+ disabled, but yet I still worked. I have been a fighter all my life but sometimes a fighter has give in to health problems. I proudly display the US Coast Guard flag in my office at home.
The second highlighted in red statement is, for Jim has hounded me and as you should note I only posted after Jim saying lies about me on this string. I have a massive collection of emails/PMs he has sent me and will be happy to forward them to any one who wants them. This was to give the authorities if it ever got worse. I was considering pressing charges for him being an internet stalker. But I do consider the source and try to keep forgiveness for him. As you see here on his post he is trying to weave a lie of deception. Then he points out Bessler007 who has been banned from several forums Just like, Jim/P-motion/BAHammer/johnny874 and many many more of Jim's sign in names, but Bessler007 has not sent me crazy emails either.
Note Jim had his P-Motion name and his strings under this name removed from here to hide a lot of his post so they could not be used against him. So what did he want to hide? The truth about James Lindgaard is all I can think of for an answer. >:(
____________________________
PS Jim
Your many sign in names make you a fraud, Your constant lies of myself make you a fraud, Your behind my back PM to people telling lies about me, make you a fraud and you even sent on to my wife >:( .
But I have never called you a fraud for posting designs. That is open sourcing. But your other actions makes it where you can't be trusted for you have give no real reason to be.
Like I said Alan, I think you're funny. Because I won't give you control of my work, you attack me. I think it is more to get at rlortie whose build group you used to be a part of. It is possible because of your constantly attacking education that got him tired of you. After all, he does have his nice home and helps to financially support besslerwheel dot com. And all you can do is attack me because you wish to show that you are an authority when you are not.
You might have done armoring for 25 years, but then, you haven't taken the time to learn anything else. I think this is why I proceed at my own pace. I do know what I am doing and you are merely jealous. It does get old Alan. As you have posted, you have done many builds but can not share them in this forum for some unknown reason. Maybe because you didn't really do all those builds you claim to have done. I think that is the truth.
Sorry Alan, but you are no one I am concerned with. So please leave me alone. After all, when I was discussing Mt 24 with the people in this forum, what was it you asked me ? How big was my dick ? That was it. What you really wanted to knwo was how aggressive am I. Like am I as aggressives as you. If not, then you will dictate what happens in this forum. And you've been after me ever since.
Unfortunately Alan, I am one of those people you don't like, I took time to learn something in school. It has helped me to understand things you don't. The fault is entirely your own as I had nothing to do with preventing you from pursuing some type of education. Live with it.
Also, even though you are married and I am not, I do not owe it to you to support your family. If having a family doesn't motivate you to do better in life, that again is your problem.
@Everyone else, will need to take a break while I recover from surgery. After that, will be ready to continue on in a sane manner in pursuing the build. Putting a wheel together is more than just point and click. After all, I have more experience working with metal than with wood. I would think reasonable people would allow me the time to learn how to use new tools working with different materials like different types of wood.
From pine to oak, what wood requires is different. FYI...
My build with a drill and a jig saw...
http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae278/bessler_supporter/Picture0071.jpg
And Alan's 25 years of experience ...
Quote from: johnny874 on May 21, 2012, 01:24:53 PM
Like I said Alan, I think you're funny. Because I won't give you control of my work, you attack me. I think it is more to get at rlortie whose build group you used to be a part of. It is possible because of your constantly attacking education that got him tired of you. After all, he does have his nice home and helps to financially support besslerwheel dot com. And all you can do is attack me because you wish to show that you are an authority when you are not.
You might have done armoring for 25 years, but then, you haven't taken the time to learn anything else. I think this is why I proceed at my own pace. I do know what I am doing and you are merely jealous. It does get old Alan. As you have posted, you have done many builds but can not share them in this forum for some unknown reason. Maybe because you didn't really do all those builds you claim to have done. I think that is the truth.
Sorry Alan, but you are no one I am concerned with. So please leave me alone. After all, when I was discussing Mt 24 with the people in this forum, what was it you asked me ? How big was my dick ? That was it. What you really wanted to knwo was how aggressive am I. Like am I as aggressives as you. If not, then you will dictate what happens in this forum. And you've been after me ever since.
Unfortunately Alan, I am one of those people you don't like, I took time to learn something in school. It has helped me to understand things you don't. The fault is entirely your own as I had nothing to do with preventing you from pursuing some type of education. Live with it.
Also, even though you are married and I am not, I do not owe it to you to support your family. If having a family doesn't motivate you to do better in life, that again is your problem.
@Everyone else, will need to take a break while I recover from surgery. After that, will be ready to continue on in a sane manner in pursuing the build. Putting a wheel together is more than just point and click. After all, I have more experience working with metal than with wood. I would think reasonable people would allow me the time to learn how to use new tools working with different materials like different types of wood.
From pine to oak, what wood requires is different. FYI...
My build with a drill and a jig saw...
http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae278/bessler_supporter/Picture0071.jpg (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae278/bessler_supporter/Picture0071.jpg)
And Alan's 25 years of experience ...
To everyone and especially to you Jim. More proof that you Jim are nothing but a liar. I haven't shown anything?? :o LMAO
Look up this string (How to build a gravity wheel)
http://www.overunity.com/9301/how-to-build-a-gravity-wheel/
Reply #5 Shows a direct response to you, Jim and a picture of one of my wheels that should show you why your wheel won't work, if you where smart enough to pay attention.
Reply #10 Here is an MT1 from an old erector set to show how easy it is to build a wheel with little to work with.
Reply #11 This shows a photo of my professional work for Rein-actors
Reply #14 shows a blend of MT18 and MT19 influenced from Bessler's book
Reply #22 Show a wooden stand and pendulum arms similar to Bessler's from his book.
Reply #23 show a slide weight wheel I built. Note these are old pictures.
Reply #30 that has a youtube link here of the finished wheel. again an old wheel.
http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjEsGZfkCRA&feature=relmfu
Reply #40 my old test of 4 years ago that Jim is so proudly saying is all I have shown. LMAO "Just more lies from Jim Lindgaard."
Reply #60 Youtube video of the MT18 and MT19 blend from my unlisted videos
http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFtWz12beyA
Reply #62 I am showing my bearing set up and my new stand for quick change.
Under this string of mine (AB Hammer's gravity and keel grid)
http:www.overunity.com/6474/ab-hammers-gravity-and-keel-grid/
You will find a lot of links of designs I have posted and take note of Reply #18 It is one of my first wheels. Note the metal work in it.
Hay Jim your work don't even come close but in your delusions when it comes to skill. FDLMAO
I await your next batch of lies. You are so jealous of my skills you even wanted to be me when you used the BAHammer name. That is why you can't leave me alone is seems. Can we say internet stalker?
I have no need for what you do. I only need you to quit the lies you tell about me. If you keep it up? I will be forced to build a web page and display all those letters you sent me. Since I have the proof you won't be able to do a thing for it is legal. And each time you post about me I will just start posting the link about you in response. I don't want it to go that far.
SO LEAVE ME OUT OF WHAT YOU POST !!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Quote from: AB Hammer on May 21, 2012, 09:08:03 PM
To everyone and especially to you Jim. More proof that you Jim are nothing but a liar. I haven't shown anything?? :o LMAO
Look up this string (How to build a gravity wheel)
http://www.overunity.com/9301/how-to-build-a-gravity-wheel/ (http://www.overunity.com/9301/how-to-build-a-gravity-wheel/)
Reply #5 Shows a direct response to you, Jim and a picture of one of my wheels that should show you why your wheel won't work, if you where smart enough to pay attention.
Reply #10 Here is an MT1 from an old erector set to show how easy it is to build a wheel with little to work with.
Reply #11 This shows a photo of my professional work for Rein-actors
Reply #14 shows a blend of MT18 and MT19 influenced from Bessler's book
Reply #22 Show a wooden stand and pendulum arms similar to Bessler's from his book.
Reply #23 show a slide weight wheel I built. Note these are old pictures.
Reply #30 that has a youtube link here of the finished wheel. again an old wheel.
http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjEsGZfkCRA&feature=relmfu
Reply #40 my old test of 4 years ago that Jim is so proudly saying is all I have shown. LMAO "Just more lies from Jim Lindgaard."
Reply #60 Youtube video of the MT18 and MT19 blend from my unlisted videos
http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFtWz12beyA
Reply #62 I am showing my bearing set up and my new stand for quick change.
Under this string of mine (AB Hammer's gravity and keel grid)
http:www.overunity.com/6474/ab-hammers-gravity-and-keel-grid/
You will find a lot of links of designs I have posted and take note of Reply #18 It is one of my first wheels. Note the metal work in it.
Hay Jim your work don't even come close but in your delusions when it comes to skill. FDLMAO
I await your next batch of lies. You are so jealous of my skills you even wanted to be me when you used the BAHammer name. That is why you can't leave me alone is seems. Can we say internet stalker?
I have no need for what you do. I only need you to quit the lies you tell about me. If you keep it up? I will be forced to build a web page and display all those letters you sent me. Since I have the proof you won't be able to do a thing for it is legal. And each time you post about me I will just start posting the link about you in response. I don't want it to go that far. SO LEAVE ME OUT OF WHAT YOU POST !!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Wasn't it Christo4_99 that told me how to build a 12 inch wheel, like the one in the pic you made ?
Your grid is what Alan ? I myself prefer trigonometry, it is a much better tool, it's precise.
Funny thing is, you just posted I am a fraud because I had surgery. I think that is all anyone needs
to know about you. After all, they just read it.
The reality is alan, some people like myself are willing to work for what they have. Then there are those
who are on the show American Greed where they think of ways to scam people. Not saying you are a scam artist,
but if I wish to take my time on the project I am working on, that should be for me to decide.
edited to add; @All, it was Archimedes who invented the screw pump and realized the mechanics of leverage. This was over 4,000
years ago. A contemporary of his named Pythagoras came up with what is called the Pythagorean Thoerum where the 3 sdies of a right
trinagle can be known by knowing only 2 of the sides. In trigonometry, this an be helpful in trying to understanding how the force a weight
applies to a lever when it rotates is best understood using trigonometry. I've used a lot of it myself and have always recommened anyone to consider their idea by using math as an analytical tool before spending to much time on it. it can show potential or lack of potential while
being neutral in it's observation's.
Myself, when it comes to Bessler, I consider what they science of his time was. It was Newton and Liebniz. They co-invented calculus in the generation preceeding Bessler. Liebniz is best known by his equation Momentum = mv^2.
Also, for as much as bessler described his life and his work, what is missing is his wheel. Why would he publish it when he could talk "around"
it ? Notice the pun on the word round which a wheel is. It is quite possible that Bessler was an abstract thinker and used his thought processes to speak of his wheel(s) in other words. Other wise, any person could discover his method(s) and this might not bode well for Bessler's legacy.
To this end, his wheel would be considered an artifact of the German Republic. An attempt to profit of it by claiming marketing or manufacturing rights would be an incorrect assumption. After all, if a person found a treasure of another country, say as in a ship wreck, they would need permission or an agreement with the country of province before they could pursue and compensation for their efforts. Quite often, it is an intersest in history that motivates most people.
Of course, a person can profit what they can from their own invention. Nothing new there.
Jim
I would like to thank this site for people looking...I sold what you guys can not understand ...........thanks everyone
good for you, retard.
i'm sure whoever bought it is running their home on it by now. ::)
have a nice day.
:)
Astounding!
An old thread raises its head, with plenty of interesting material in the last several posts above. Do we detect a certain pattern here?
And.... by the way, if anyone really cares .... Archimedes of Syracuse was born around 287 BC, about 2300 years ago. NOT four thousand. But that's just a fact, checkable by anyone.... except, apparently, someone who wants to make some kind of spurious point by saying "four thousand years ago" when the truth is about half that.
QuoteLiebniz is best known by his equation Momentum = mv^2.
Oh really? I don't think so. "V
2" did NOT refer to momentum but to his "vis viva" concept. He knew perfectly well that momentum is just mv and is conserved.
Maybe this will help.... 5 minutes of fact checking, to refute a mistaken idea and claim.
https://eee.uci.edu/clients/bjbecker/RevoltingIdeas/leibniz.html
Here's what Wiki says about Leibniz's mv
2:
QuoteIn the history of science, vis viva (from the Latin for living force) is an obsolete scientific theory that served as an elementary and limited early formulation of the principle of conservation of energy. It can be thought of as a type of kinetic energy or of energy related to sensible motions.
Proposed by Gottfried Leibniz over the period 1676â€"1689, the theory was controversial as it seemed to oppose the theory of conservation of momentum advocated by Sir Isaac Newton and René Descartes. The two theories are now understood to be complementary.
A bit different from the statement "Liebniz is best known by his equation Momentum = mv^2."
A pictorial summary of the thread up to this point....
Exactly! That is yet another reason Jim (and his 5 other alias names) can't build any of his 5 working wheel designs that are proven to work. (In his mind) He can't build them because the Hindenburg blew up. If only that did not happen, he would have those designs built by now and then someone on here could steal them. Actually, Jim designed the Hindenburg, even though he only has a 3rd grade education, but the NAZI's stole it from him. The plans for Bessler's wheel were actually on the Hindenburg when it blew up.......otherwise, Jim would have built it by now.
Bill
PS: Even though Jim has called me a NAZI, he probably blames me for the Hindenburg explosion since I was born and raised in NJ.