Hellow 2 all.. Im currently making a low frequency ou transformer experiment using standard commercial transformer with embeded magnet. I dont expect to get here a large amount of power but im hoping to get even tiny or slightest power gain. Wish me luck. :) Heres the screenshots of what i already made.
Interesting idea good luck! ;)
Im sleepy now.. I will post the result of my experiment tommorow.
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aba! parang nagbobolahan din kayo ni pareng crazycut
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Haha napasama lang ung baso. D2 ko lang kc ginawa ung pagpicture sa kwarto ko. Hehe :D
Lol! ;D If ur results are not that good I suggest you take a look at thanes bitoroid setup, this is what trafos should be! 90deg. Phase shift no cemf on primary.... Mabuhay! ;)
Various Experiment I have done validate that the most energy comes from a transformer when resonating it.
Every transformer is different.
Anyways I can light a 3 V led through a 10-1 stepdown transformer with a 1.5 volt battery at only the resonant frequency of the transformer.
So my suggestion is to find the resonant frequency of the transformer for maximum effect.
To see the effect of resonating a transformer see below.
Best Regards,
The Observer
Quote from: The Observer on November 14, 2012, 12:51:01 AM
Various Experiment I have done validate that the most energy comes from a transformer when resonating it.
Best Regards,
The Observer
Voltage should not be confused with energy.
At resonance, the voltage and current are 90 degrees out of phase.
Poynt,
Like I said... At only the resonant frequency of the transformer (an audio transformer in this case)... does the 3 Volt LED (or 20 of them) light up using only a 1.5 volt battery.
This is not a joule thief... it works at only 1 specific frequency.
The transformer literally hums only at it's resonant frequency.
The transformer is also a 10 to 1 step down transformer.
In fact.. if you hook the LEDs up to the primary instead of the 10 to 1 stepped down secondary, the LEDs will promptly burn out !
Anyone can verify this by resonating a transformer with a load (like a light) and observing the results !
Best Wishes,
The Observer
Quote from: The Observer on November 14, 2012, 10:01:58 AM
Poynt,
Like I said... At only the resonant frequency of the transformer (an audio transformer in this case)... does the 3 Volt LED (or 20 of them) light up using only a 1.5 volt battery.
How do you "resonate" the transformer and light up the 20 LEDs with a 1.5 volt battery? What is driving the transformer? Please show your complete circuit. In the image above, you are driving the transformer with a signal generator or some kind of oscillator, aren't you? Is this powered by a 1.5 volt battery?
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This is not a joule thief... it works at only 1 specific frequency.
What is a Joule Thief? Do they work at multiple frequencies.... or are they self-resonant, locking into the resonant frequency of their coil sets "automagically"?
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The transformer literally hums only at it's resonant frequency.
Congratulations... you've discovered magnetostriction.
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The transformer is also a 10 to 1 step down transformer.
What are the turns on the primary and secondary? A transformer with 10:1 turns ratio can be used as a 10:1 step down, or a 1:10 step up transformer, depending on which side is driven and which side is the load side. It is not clear to me what you are talking about here, because of the next statement:
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In fact.. if you hook the LEDs up to the primary instead of the 10 to 1 stepped down secondary, the LEDs will promptly burn out !
So you are using a 1.5 volt battery somehow to "resonate" the primary, and if you hook your LEDs up directly there they will burn out.... all 20 of them..... but if they are hooked up to the 10:1 stepped down secondary.... they won't.
Please show your complete circuit, including how you are resonating the transformer using a 1.5 volt battery.
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Anyone can verify this by resonating a transformer with a load (like a light) and observing the results !
Best Wishes,
The Observer
Voltage is not power, and worse than that.... power is not energy.
Wait until you start resonating air-core coils that don't saturate, by driving them at 1/4 wavelength, and observing those results. You might be "shocked" at what you will find.
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lang kc ako e.
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@all
Sorry if i still didnt release the result of my experiment because im too busy untill now. To TinselKoala, The Observer, poynt99 and crazycut06 thanks to your comment and good bless you all .. ;)
Quote from: Neo-X on November 15, 2012, 02:50:31 AM
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@all
Sorry if i still didnt release the result of my experiment because im too busy untill now. To TinselKoala, The Observer, poynt99 and crazycut06 thanks to your comment and good bless you all .. ;)
Hi,
I for one looking forward to reading your results. :)
Thanks, Gyula
Poynt,
Resonance, or Sympathetic Resonance is a key that unlocks the energy of motion we do not see with the naked eye.
An acoustic guitar rings 1000 times louder (and a bit longer) than an electric guitar... same strings - same strum.
Two similar tuning forks ring louder and longer than one when only 1 is struck.
In the above examples... molecular motion is what is revealed when achieving acoustic resonance.
This led me to wonder about resonating transformers.
All I did was buy an electronic set... find a simple circuit that makes tones through an audio transformer and did some experiments.
The audio transformer is a 10 to 1 step down transformer, I got this number by comparing the resistance between the primary circuit and the secondary circuit.
I found at one particular frequency, the speaker got ALOT louder.
Then experimented with the LEDs at that frequency.
99.9999% of all frequencies DO NOT light the 3 Volt LEDs using a 1.5 V battery
.00001% does.
There is something special about resonating a transformer... it's just a fact.
Tesla, Stan Meyer and others held the phenomenon of Sympathetic Resonance in High Regard for a reason.
If you really want the circuit, I will work on getting that to you in the near future... but the point is finding the right frequency for a particular transformer no matter what oscillator is used.
Best Wishes,
The Observer
Hi The Observer,
I am wondering what kind of resonance you mean? A mechanical resonance of the soft iron core(s) in your transformer? This is what I could guess from your comparing descriptions. And from your Flyback transformer Summary3.jpg tests some posts above you seem to find the resonant frequency of the 200 turn secondary coil, resonance there occurs with the secondary coil self capacitance to which your scope probe's 14-15 pF input capacitance is added when set to to 10:1 or 90pF or so input capacitance when set to 1:1 division ratio, so it was a parallel LC circuit resonance, the primary coil was a coupling coil to it, driven by your pulse or function generator.
But from your transformer test description of your previous post it does not turn out what kind of resonance you actually had in your experiment.
IF you could describe it more precisely, and also have you been able to do more meaningful measurements as per output/input ?
Thanks, Gyula
QuoteWait until you start resonating air-core coils that don't saturate, by driving them at 1/4 wavelength, and observing those results. You might be "shocked" at what you will find.
Yeah, I confirm too. I have posted a bunch of Chinese paper that show an anomaly like the load will be reflected as a negative resistor in respect to the source. The source "see" -R instead of R. (With Maths and experiences by using the 1/4 wavelength of the coil, Transmitter/Receiver separated at 1/4 wavelength or even from a wire or electrical network... )
The phenomena is due to the wave propagation in the air (at c) or in the wire (usually 2/3 of c).
The propagation delay of a copper wire is around 5 nS per meter...
At 1/4 wave the phase are inverted and the current wave charge the source instead to deplete it, weird.
According to that weird phenomena a 50 Hz power-line would be OU by nature if the two station was separated by 990 Kms apart (3*10^5/50/4*0.66=990) without the line being "cut" by phase shifting transformer and other substation transformer.
Power line are only 200/300 kms officially to avoid loss and voltage droop, and also phase shifting problem.
SRM.
So there are two different experiments.
1. An oscillator circuit that resonates a small audio transformer.
At one specific frequency, the transformer buzzes
and offers power/energy magnitudes above what is possible at any other frequency.
a 1.5 v battery produces voltage spikes on the secondary of a 10-1 step down transformer on the order of 6 volts.
All other frequencies produce voltages spikes way under 1.5 volts.
the primary produces voltage spikes around 90 volts which does burn out LEDs.
that is, with leaving everything else the same, I just hooked up the LEDs to the primary.
2. The homemade fly back where the frequency is tuned into the ripple you see after giving it a simple square wave pulse.
I call that ripple, the resonant frequency of the transformer.
You can see what happens as one tunes into the ripple as per my report.
That's all I have time for now.
Suffice it to say, that resonating the transformer, that is tuning into the the ripple, causes the transformer to buzz and offer energy not possible at any other frequency.
Best Regards,
The Observer
@ The observer: you are describing the Rotoverter experiment: who he is resonate the secondary of a transformer pushing it into deep saturation. Then the experiment propose to put a load that match the VA of the circulating current/voltage... Tuning a bit and run the light bulb for free. He said that the R must be in the current node of your standing wave...
Unfortunately I never saw a replica with IN/OUT measurement but if you have the right trafos like IN: 120/240/480 and OUT: 120/240/480 and a couple of caps maybe (and best a frequency inverter with pulselenght control) you can play with and find eventually weird things.
Unfortunately I don't have such things just an old 240/120 trafo (I live in a 240V country) it will be difficult to select the correct voltage I don't have so many choice to select the correct resonant point.
Well, seriously the way i see it is, its balance design, it will give a little bit more bigger magnetic field and that's not bad, but i suggest that add more coils in the vicinity to make it more unbalance.
The more separate coils you can energize the better of course. ;)
Kung gaano kalayo makararating yung utot ganon karami ang pweding maapektuhan. ;D lol
kwela pero totoo. ;D
Quote from: Neo-X on November 13, 2012, 10:55:34 AM
Im sleepy now.. I will post the result of my experiment tommorow.
Hi Neo-X,
Are you still sleepy? ;)
Thanks if you have some results. I would be interested.
Gyula
Sounds like he's invented the Joule Thief.
:P
QuoteKung gaano kalayo makararating yung utot ganon karami ang pweding maapektuhan. lolkwela pero totoo.
@ Tito: What is that language ? o_O Look like an Indian or an Asian one.
Quote from: SchubertReijiMaigo on November 27, 2012, 09:38:10 AM
@ Tito: What is that language ? o_O Look like an Indian or an Asian one.
Bakit ito kaya mahirap upang isalin sa Pilipino?
Tito, o sa bansa, ang mga tao init tahanan, sumunog sa furnaces sa karbon?
Ok, Ok, I undertsand:
Saya suka wanita dari filipina ^^ 8)