http://www.overunity.com/1761/user-turbos-replication-of-steven-marks-tpu/msg19566/#msg19566
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6015476.PN.&OS=PN/6015476&RS=PN/6015476
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-m4PqHpBHo-dmhQN1dES1kyeUk&usp=sharing
there is a reason why was BS
Kind Regards
You are mistaken Qwert.
We have indeed looked at Steven's patents, a long time ago.
The one you linked to is NOT his patent. His name is "Steven Mark", not "Steven Marks".
Quote from: poynt99 on May 31, 2013, 08:35:28 AM
You are mistaken Qwert.
We have indeed looked at Steven's patents, a long time ago.
The one you linked to is NOT his patent. His name is "Steven Mark", not "Steven Marks".
You looked but you did not find, at least this one. And this one resembles the TPU 15". By the way, where from you guys have the name "Steven Mark"? I guess, from Mannix, which had a lot of misspellings in his articles what means he doesn't care much about his spelling; so it is possible he also misspelled the inventor's name.
Qwert, I find it interesting that the guys name is almost the same and he lives in California also and has a patent on something that looks a bit like a TPU but the patent seems to be describing a method of using plasma and magnets for etching semiconductors and does not appear to have anything to do with energy. So I would assume it's just either an odd coincidence OR maybe this guy really is THE Steven Mark and his name was just obscured slightly and he found interesting effect in that patented device from which he built a TPU. A bit of a stretch but nonetheless an interesting find. My best guess though is it's just a kwinkydink ;)
To markdansie
I noticed when your on the smart scarecrow you laugh when someone mentions the
Tariel Kapanadze device why do you believe its fake.
As to the tpu there was no patent ever for the tpu,SM is full of tricks to hid the real operation of the device.Would you know a real world free energy device if it were
full of tricks to fake you out as to how to build it.The TK device uses a Tesla interface(hv,spark gap,coils and ground) to fool everyone its a Tesla invention.
Only in the last video, aquarium 2 video is the active component visible,he was very sick at the time and goofed up,however it is a bridge that can not be crossed,what you see is impossible under current laws
so must be a fake,wrong.It requires some new principles that are unknown to understand how it works,because the principles are simple but strange,they can not be patented.The TK patents are fake,more tricks.SM has a cult following,even very smart people here believe,"he can not lie,would not lie,and wants you to build hes tpu,LOL.Theres a lot more to both the tpu and TK device than meets the eye,if your looking at some of the stupid things people have built as replications
and think its a fake,you have to investigate both devices in a different way or you get nowhere,the inventors do not want you to know how it build it or how it works.
Quote from: Qwert on May 31, 2013, 12:18:35 PM
You looked but you did not find, at least this one. And this one resembles the TPU 15". By the way, where from you guys have the name "Steven Mark"? I guess, from Mannix, which had a lot of misspellings in his articles what means he doesn't care much about his spelling; so it is possible he also misspelled the inventor's name.
As I said, his name is "Steven Mark". Do your homework and stop spreading disinformation about Steven Mark and his TPU.
Quote from: cheappower2012 on May 31, 2013, 06:25:16 PM
To markdansie
I noticed when your on the smart scarecrow you laugh when someone mentions the
Tariel Kapanadze device why do you believe its fake.
As to the tpu there was no patent ever for the tpu,SM is full of tricks to hid the real operation of the device.Would you know a real world free energy device if it were
full of tricks to fake you out as to how to build it.The TK device uses a Tesla interface(hv,spark gap,coils and ground) to fool everyone its a Tesla invention.
Only in the last video, aquarium 2 video is the active component visible,he was very sick at the time and goofed up,however it is a bridge that can not be crossed,what you see is impossible under current laws
so must be a fake,wrong.It requires some new principles that are unknown to understand how it works,because the principles are simple but strange,they can not be patented.The TK patents are fake,more tricks.SM has a cult following,even very smart people here believe,"he can not lie,would not lie,and wants you to build hes tpu,LOL.Theres a lot more to both the tpu and TK device than meets the eye,if your looking at some of the stupid things people have built as replications
and think its a fake,you have to investigate both devices in a different way or you get nowhere,the inventors do not want you to know how it build it or how it works.
Go tell that to the investors in Australia who lost over 2 million in savings who were the true believers.
There was never any credible third party tests or replications.
However could there be something there worthwhile researching...the answer is always yes and I know the efforts of many have led to much more new knowledge being gained. I salute those persons.
As far as TK goes, he has a sense of humor but in reality is probably the smartest person on the planet working with these technologies I have come across. He has the personality to match his genius....which at times is difficult.
Thanks for you post as you do make some good and interesting points, my opinion is only one of the greater collective.
Kind Regards
Mark
Quote from: markdansie on May 31, 2013, 06:59:50 PM
Go tell that to the investors in Australia who lost over 2 million in savings who were the true believers.
Who was that, and who put them in touch with the project...Brian Collins?
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There was never any credible third party tests or replications.
There was credible third party testing done by Professor Roland Schinzinger. Here is one report.
To markdanse
I understand your disgust for fake devices,unless I believe its possible that its real, I never get involved with a device, most on here are frauds,however theres
a lot of things connected to both the tpu
and the Tariel kap device, that are strange.I don't know about investors that you say in
Australia who lost over 2 million in savings who were true believers,a fool and hes money is soon parted.
People get greedy thats there down fall,I'm sorry I have no pity for stupidity and greed,they thought they were going to corner the energy market and fall for the lie.
It was said by Jack Durban that SM would fake illness or pit investors against each other to give them nothing.
One thing you have to understand about SM ,hes a con man of sorts,as is Tariel Kap,the difference
from the other conmen is they have something that works.They can not do a patent,is for the reason I gave you
its too simple to build so they can do nothing but put on a show and charge,in the case of SM he ripped off investors,there terrified someone will figure out
there secret so work alone.From a physics stand point a free energy device is impossible,you can not over come conservation of energy and matter,
the only hope is that there exists an unknown form of energy missed by the physics community.
A converter is allowed,if the unknown energy source is very dense,great power can come from a small area,so there are only two choices either there exists
a converter of an unknown energy source or there are no free energy devices possible at all.
Over the years I have trained my self to mimic SM's tactics so when I look at something I can see
thru it(the deception),both SM and Tariel Kap are very tricky.There are tactics to breakdown there devices to figure out the operation,this is the research I do
of course I don't post it, I work alone and always have,theres a lot more to these devices than wishfull thinking.
.There are no working builds for either the tpu or tariel kap's device. SM thru
an alter ego,"mannix", posted the so called letters from SM to fake out the group working on replicating the tpu,gave them a phony way to build hes device sent them on a wild goose chase
,next he posted as hes engineer "Spheric", sending everybody on a really wild goose chase,fun stuff,fooled the crap out of the group,LOL.
It wasn't untill Jack durban showed up on sterlings radio show in 2008,thats when I started to make progress,he brought with him,a good investor video,
Jack Durban said of SM,I don't know why he lies even when he doesn't need to,nothing SM says about the tpu can be taken as true.Almost like a repeat of this, a.king21 posted the aquarium 2 video,
with the active device in plain sight,
a bridge that can not crossed,Tariel kap cheated a.king21 and company for $10,000 gave him nothing,continues feeding him garbage,funny stuff,LOL.
Tariel kapanadze worked with a company in turkey to build two big devices,each 100kw,the video's show
resistive loads,lamps and a motor with current readings,this was in 2008,its said,he cheated the turks for $100,000 and gave them nothing,LOL.
There was a misunderstanding when I refer to TK I mean Tariel Kapanadze,not TinselKoala.Poynt99
is right there was testing of 2 devices by a professor at university of Irvine,hes also in a video also showing demo's of various tpu's.
you have to keep in mind that various battery technologies we have now did not exist in 1996.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ME5oQ6lV8I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=eO8nD02TMRo
Some of Whats on the videos are described by the professors report, this is before,he tested the 2 devices at the university,
thats 11 hours of testing.
Quote from: poynt99 on May 31, 2013, 06:57:42 PM
As I said, his name is "Steven Mark". Do your homework and stop spreading disinformation about Steven Mark and his TPU.
Well, despite of proper info (or lack of dis-info), nobody yet was successful in replication; so, maybe disinformation will help...
Quote from: Qwert on June 03, 2013, 03:24:27 PM
Well, despite of proper info (or lack of dis-info), nobody yet was successful in replication; so, maybe disinformation will help...
Sure. It will help to confuse more people, that's about all.
Quote from: poynt99 on June 03, 2013, 05:36:54 PM
Sure. It will help to confuse more people, that's about all.
If this forum is for closed-minded replicators rather than open-minded inventors, you are proper promoter here. I am studying this patent right now and I highly recommend to do that for open-minded guys.
Quote from: Qwert on June 03, 2013, 09:32:05 PM
If this forum is for closed-minded replicators rather than open-minded inventors, you are proper promoter here. I am studying this patent right now and I highly recommend to do that for open-minded guys.
Go for it. Many of us have been down that road 4 years ago. You may as well investigate cold fusion for how far off that Steve Marks patent is, along with a string of others that might look familiar.
You'd probably learn more about the TPU from SM's Spatial Enhancement patent.
As I said Qwert, do your homework.
Quote from: poynt99 on June 03, 2013, 09:46:39 PM
As I said Qwert, do your homework.
I put this patent here because:
1. The name of one of the inventors closely resembles the SM name.
2. The shape and size of the invention closely resembles the contraption presented on some original videos about the TPU.
3. Some descriptions of behavior of the TPU presented on that video (rotating magnetic field) resembles that one in that patent.
4. The dates of the video and date of issuing the patent match pretty closely.
5. Despite all of the above, this patent went unnoticed, though it was presented here long time ago.
I can't find any other patent which would resemble TPU as close as this one. Yet this patent IS NOT the TPU. It is possible however, that some principles of this patent were used in TPU or vice-versa: some principles of TPU were used in this patent.
This is my homework.
If you need to be exact in your research, mr. Poynt, that patent you give for an example is issued for Steven D. Mark, not Steven Mark as Prof. Roland Schinzinger and others suggest. Now, which one is the real one: Steve Marks or Steven D. Mark? Or, both patents should be disregarded?
Does either patent allow you to reproduce the device described and make it work as described? That will be the one to use, then.
.steve use MAGNETS to KICK-ENERGY after the pulse on the coils ?! linoavac use rotation
also with a video general info of coils with magnets (kick magnetedCOIL)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybWA9wWfUbQ
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after LASERSABRE.... Linoavac made a VIDEO with aplication of "Linoavac magnetic principle"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FsFNbx0AWE (new point of view , after lasersaber)
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Quote from: Qwert on June 04, 2013, 02:19:52 AM
I put this patent here because:
1. The name of one of the inventors closely resembles the SM name.
2. The shape and size of the invention closely resembles the contraption presented on some original videos about the TPU.
3. Some descriptions of behavior of the TPU presented on that video (rotating magnetic field) resembles that one in that patent.
4. The dates of the video and date of issuing the patent match pretty closely.
5. Despite all of the above, this patent went unnoticed, though it was presented here long time ago.
I can't find any other patent which would resemble TPU as close as this one. Yet this patent IS NOT the TPU. It is possible however, that some principles of this patent were used in TPU or vice-versa: some principles of TPU were used in this patent.
This is my homework.
If you need to be exact in your research, mr. Poynt, that patent you give for an example is issued for Steven D. Mark, not Steven Mark as Prof. Roland Schinzinger and others suggest. Now, which one is the real one: Steve Marks or Steven D. Mark? Or, both patents should be disregarded?
It's circular, it's a toroid, it has a magnetic field, therefore it must be a SM TPU. ::)
Do you have a middle initial Qwert? Well evidently, so does Steven Mark. ::)
Quote from: poynt99 on June 04, 2013, 10:09:42 AM
It's circular, it's a toroid, it has a magnetic field, therefore it must be a SM TPU. ::)
It's your opinion (though I detect your sarcasm). Mine is different: read my post again.
Quote from: TinselKoala on June 04, 2013, 09:46:56 AM
Does either patent allow you to reproduce the device described and make it work as described?
Not yet. My intention was to introduce this patent as an alternative (and/or support) to the main idea of the replicators' efforts.
Personally I think this is the secret to the tpu ::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgkxAQ3fPzg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgkxAQ3fPzg)
Jack Durban put out a vid showing a tpu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHswoNpc0Tk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHswoNpc0Tk)
Its all about pulling energy from the choke thats mounted above the toroids, an iron toroid creates a band that energy cannot pass through unless there is a conductive path.
Watch this vid he uses an iron toroid as a barrier to stop 300,000 volts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw&feature=plcp
Quote from: Qwert on June 04, 2013, 11:08:33 AM
It's your opinion (though I detect your sarcasm). Mine is different: read my post again.
Not yet. My intention was to introduce this patent as an alternative (and/or support) to the main idea of the replicators' efforts.
Do whatever you wish qwert, just stop spreading disinformation about what Steven Mark's name is, and which patents are his or pertain to his invention, ok?
Dave,
Could you illustrate a little clearer where you see the collector coil?
Thanks,
.99
The coils wound on the toroids create a vortex that is collected by the inner coil
This is all theory of course ;D
Dave's good at theory 8)
Theories are fine.
OK, how is that collector coil in your picture wound?
And what is the purpose of the coils wound on the edges (black circles in your drawing)?
The coils wound on the outer toroids create the vortex, just like Tesla's egg of columbus
If the vortex were turning in a right hand direction the collector coil would need to be wound the same, I have been thinking on this for quite awhile, just havent built it yet.
Quote from: poynt99 on June 04, 2013, 07:24:37 PM
Do whatever you wish qwert, just stop spreading disinformation about what Steven Mark's name is, and which patents are his or pertain to his invention, ok?
Sorry, I can't do that. After all, nobody knows for sure if all that TPU theory known presently is not just disinformation. Until somebody make successful replication, this is not known for sure.
Everybody can spread his/her ideas on this kind, non exclusive forum. What you, Poynt are doing here or trying to imply (at least recently), is called SUPPRESSION.
Quote from: Qwert on June 04, 2013, 11:54:48 PM
Sorry, I can't do that. After all, nobody knows for sure if all that TPU theory known presently is not just disinformation. Until somebody make successful replication, this is not known for sure.
Everybody can spread his/her ideas on this kind, non exclusive forum. What you, Poynt are doing here or trying to imply (at least recently), is called SUPPRESSION.
So you are going to continue spreading lies and disinformation about Steven Mark and his TPU invention? Well, let it be known that's exactly what you are doing here.
I am not suppressing anything about SM. What I AM doing is trying to ensure the facts that ARE known do not become twisted and distorted by folks such as yourself.
Quote from: poynt99 on June 05, 2013, 09:45:08 AM
So you are going to continue spreading lies and disinformation about Steven Mark and his TPU invention? Well, let it be known that's exactly what you are doing here.
I am not suppressing anything about SM. What I AM doing is trying to ensure the facts that ARE known do not become twisted and distorted by folks such as yourself.
How those facts ARE known? As I said before, until successful replication, there are NO KNOWN FACTS. And as I said above, what you are doing here is a form of suppression.
This way, we'll never go to any consensus. The only way to arbitrate to prevent this nonsensical quarrel, I guess, is to report to moderator or any third-party.
Since you're having such difficulty in understanding, I'll spell it out one final time:
Steven Mark is the TPU inventor's name, NOT "Steven Marks".
and
Any patent that does not bear the name "Steven Mark" or "Steven D. Mark" is not a TPU patent.
Those are the facts that ARE known, although you apparently don't have all the facts.
Quote from: Qwert
As I said before, until successful replication, there are NO KNOWN FACTS
There will be no successful replication of the
device until the aspiring replicator is willing
to make the same sort of "arrangement" with
certain "entities" that S.M. made.
The source of electrical power which emanated
from the device is not in accord with any of the
known "laws" of science.
The TPU is a deception.
And to further illustrate qwert that you've been remiss with your homework, here is a document that was posted on this forum 6 years ago. It addresses many issues, including the disinformation you are touting here.
Oh, yes, I was the primary author. Enjoy.
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KICK-MAGNETS in the COILS (i think is the secret)
https://www.youtube.com/embed/9FsFNbx0AWE
Quote from: poynt99 on June 05, 2013, 01:35:14 PM
And to further illustrate qwert that you've been remiss with your homework, here is a document that was posted on this forum 6 years ago. It addresses many issues, including the disinformation you are touting here.
Oh, yes, I was the primary author. Enjoy.
Enjoy? What? After 6 years it still doesn't work? Enjoy your very true information. One good thing you made posting this info: you show truth about your state of mind. Enjoy it. I quit. Just waste of time talking to you.
Quote from: Qwert on June 05, 2013, 08:13:33 PM
I quit.
Good. There has been enough disinformation already about Steven Mark and the TPU; no need for more.
Aye, and so there has.
It is a great misfortune that the bulk
of the disinformation originated with
Steven Mark himself.
His attempts to conceal the true source
of the energy which appeared to be
produced by his devices has surely led
many interested persons far astray.
He could explain neither where the energy
came from nor how it was made manifest
so necessarily had to concoct numerous
false explanations to make it appear that
the devices themselves were responsible.
It is the same source which is exploited by
certain black projects. Think: Occult.
Exactly, SeaMonkey.
I am more interested in this concept...
the next ironman
I told yall how it works, I guess you want a step by step vid, not :o
As long people believe that SM is a hero,you go nowhere but in a circle,this was told by me to the original members in the tpu thread way back.If you believe SM can't lie ,wouldn't lie,and wants you to build hes tpu,your done.The real truth is,SM is a scumbag,liar,selfish,greedy and a very good con man.He made up most of the lies and half truths presented over the years.He ran a con operation out of that mansion for years,faking illness,heart attacks and pitting investors against each other.He made
investor(sucker) tapes to lure in investors,cheated many people for millions gave them nothing.However the tpu is real and is an accidental discovery of a new principle,the tpu is built around this principle as is the tariel kap device.In the case of SM you have a con man going wild with a real device,cheating whom ever he can.My advice is don't believe anything SM has said as its mostlikely a lie.
Ah. OK marco.
So SM was able to reproduce the device in various sizes and configurations, yet you say he does not know how it works? He may not know where the extra energy is coming from, but he surely knows how to elicit it. Accidental discovery perhaps, but he can build many that work. Apparently you've not built any yet.
poynt99
Well let see,Jack Durban make a few nasty comments that you and the other group members did like when he left overunity,so you don't like Jack Durban .
Jack Durban said that when he talked to SM,SM said to him ,"I don't know how it works only that it does",I find Jack Durban far more reliable than SM to tell the truth,
SM can reproduce certain size tpu,not all tpu's are real some were faked to sweeten the pot in the investor tapes,to appeal to the greed of the investor,there is a size limitation to building a tpu which is why SM faked two,you keep forgetting SM is part con man.Stop the hero worshiping its sickening,SM is a very good con man Because of the power to hid things ,that SM has ,there are many paths that have to be tested that takes lots of time, some are dead ends,however the tpu doesn't operate under any way that you are use to.The Tariel Kap device operates in the same way as the tpu,with a few variations
in operation if you don't have at least a half ass idea how it operates you can never solve it.It is stranger than strange, so a conventional view will not work,nor will a crazy view work,cold electricity,radiant energy or other silly things.The recent aquarium 2 video added more information and shows a common connection between the tpu and the Tariel kap device.I have a good idea where the extra energy comes however untill I have much more evidence that will have to remain secret.In theory these devices should be capable of astonishing power. There is no guarantee that I or someone else will replicate the tpu or Tariels kap device.You try,either ,you succeed or fail,however I follow a strict way that I analyze things,I don't hero worship for one.Heres something for you the extra energy generated is not generated by induction,but in a completely different method,thats unknown.The Tariel kap device is able to generate more power than the tpu,because both work the same with a variation in the Tariel kap device that allows greater power. Both work the same,so a third device is possible,It would look very different from the tpu or the Tariel kap device,this is the direction that I'm headed.You can believe what you want it doesn't hurt my feelings,just stop the hero worshiping of SM,its fucken crazy.
All works one the same principle, indeed ;)
You see it as hero worship marco, I see it as keeping the facts straight.
Oh, btw I do like Jack Durban. I may not believe everything he says, not unlike the fact that I don't believe everything SM says either. So have a beer and relax, it's all good.
Quote from: cheappower2012 on June 06, 2013, 07:26:45 PM
As long people believe that SM is a hero,you go nowhere but in a circle,this was told by me to the original members in the tpu thread way back.If you believe SM can't lie ,wouldn't lie,and wants you to build hes tpu,your done.The real truth is,SM is a scumbag,liar,selfish,greedy and a very good con man.He made up most of the lies and half truths presented over the years.He ran a con operation out of that mansion for years,faking illness,heart attacks and pitting investors against each other.He made
investor(sucker) tapes to lure in investors,cheated many people for millions gave them nothing.However the tpu is real and is an accidental discovery of a new principle,the tpu is built around this principle as is the tariel kap device.In the case of SM you have a con man going wild with a real device,cheating whom ever he can.My advice is don't believe anything SM has said as its mostlikely a lie.
This makes no sense. If Mark were motivated by greed, and actually had a real device as you say, why doesn't he just trot himself over to Boeing or Siemens with it in his lap, show it to them and hand it over? Do you think they are just going to say, Oh, great thanks, and kick him out the door? If you believe this then you are really paranoid and there's little hope for you. No, the world would change immediately. and he himself would be the greatest hero since Alexander the Great, and untold riches and fame would flow his way during the Revolution that his technology would cause.
Instead he plays the small time conman, doing little circus shows for small minded and shallow-pocketed "investors" where he shows off his world-saving device which nobody is noticing.
Give me a break. Only a completely crazy person would hold a _real_ TPU and use it to con people -- by claiming it's real, yet .........but not take it someplace where it could be developed and distributed.
Quote from: TinselKoala on June 07, 2013, 01:51:35 PM... ...
I'm with you, Tinsel. Only... I wish I had your pen...
TinselKoala
"Fools tread where wise men fear to tread",SM is not a small time con man,
cheated a lot of people for big money, lived in a mansion.He did sell the technology
to a company around 1997 or 1998 called U.E.C then the tpu and SM disappeared.
Video's of the tpu went on the internet
around 2006 not sure of the exact date,they were poor copies,who posted them is unknown,
except for this we would not know SM from adam..
Only Tariel kap does small time con jobs,with the exception of
the turkey device,where its said he ripped them off for $100,000.
As weither I'm paranoid or crazy,believe what you want,I don't care,I classify
people by studying them,you are a very smart guy,however your past actions,
indicates your a pirate,and I don't trust you at all,your looking around for
a real overunity device to steal it.Why would an inventor go to the trouble of
putting on a show when he could simply go to a company,go look in the mirror,
your not the only pirate in the world, there are a lot more.The main reason is
the device is very easy to build,everybody would build there own,no need to pay anybody shit.
The tariel kap device could power a car easily,eliminating oil,you live in Canada ,say bye,
bye to the tar sands,it takes a high oil price to mine the tar sands.Your not going to be a hero when
a lot of people lose there source of income.Your thinking on, I would go and sell it to this company
is not how SM and tariel kap think,they
believe that it belongs to them only,not to everybody and they would rather take it to there grave
than give it to the world.There are a lot of reasons why the tpu is a real device,however
I'm not here to convince you,nor do I care to,believe what you want.
Heres a video posted by persons unknown its investors getting a demo of the tpu.
Keep in mine the year 1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_fRKxz_UNo&feature=channel&list=UL
For me it's suspicious when somebody shows a novel machine's effect only, is very reluctant to disclose principles of work (his description is very obscure) and which is not protected by a patent.
Show me the data
BS until independent validation or replication
It is nice to dream
Kind Regards
Quote from: Qwert on June 07, 2013, 11:05:44 PM
For me it's suspicious when somebody shows a novel machine's effect only, is very reluctant to disclose principles of work (his description is very obscure) and which is not protected by a patent.
SM claims that the control circuitry is protected by 13 patents. I am unaware of under what assignee name the patents are under, nor if they even exist in the public database. The text from SM suggests they could have been pulled.
His descriptions are obscure, yes. He was under agreements restricting what he could say about the TPU, so this was on purpose.
Quote from: markdansie on June 08, 2013, 06:42:54 AM
Show me the data
BS until independent validation or replication
It is nice to dream
Kind Regards
The data reported by Schinzinger has been posted here.
There have been no successful replications because there is not enough information available to build a working device.
Quote from: poynt99 on June 08, 2013, 08:31:47 AM
SM claims that the control circuitry is protected by 13 patents.
Only whenever somebody comes here with a suggestion that a given patent might be the one, the SM Cerberus appears and attacks him immediately.
Just can't leave well-enough alone, eh qwert?
There are no publicly-available patents for Steven Mark's TPU, period. Now stop flogging that dead horse and move on to something productive.
Quote from: poynt99 on June 08, 2013, 11:03:09 AMNow stop flogging that dead horse and move on to something productive.
Yes, I'm gonna help you in watching SM purity. Cerberus#2. :'( Where SM said that those patents are suppressed?
Waveguide creates a spinning vortex straight dc no pulsing
How it works
Quote from: poynt99 on June 08, 2013, 11:03:09 AM
There are no publicly-available patents for Steven Mark's TPU,
Hey Poynt
Does that mean that there are/were patents, but are just not available to the public? And if so, were they ever public?
Mags
Quote from: Dave45 on June 08, 2013, 03:25:02 PM
Waveguide creates a spinning vortex straight dc no pulsing
Hey Dave
Are we looking at 2 electrically separated triangular coils here? Also, are you saying that if we input dc to one coil we get dc output of the other?
Mags
Hey Mags
I hooked the coils in series, not sure how to tap the field yet, maybe with a collector coil like SM did.
Need to experiment with it.
Quote from: Magluvin on June 08, 2013, 04:40:01 PM
Hey Poynt
Does that mean that there are/were patents, but are just not available to the public? And if so, were they ever public?
Mags
SM stated a couple of times that there ARE patents covering the control unit. Apparently there were 14 patents (not 13 as I previously posted) covering the control circuitry in various segments. Hard to say if they were ever public.
I had searched extensively for patents issued to "Steven Mark", "UEC", and "Universal Energy Corporation" with no luck.
Attached is the latest version of the TPU FAQ.
A few pertinent quotes from SM about the patents:
QuoteThere are several parts of the power unit which have patents. Remember that the power unit technology is owned by the UEC (Universal Energy Corporation) and I have to be very careful about not stepping on their toes. I am not afraid of them or anything like that. It is just that they are the legitimate owners of the patents and most of the research etc. I would not like to break my trust with them.
QuoteThe patents are in several segments pertaining only to the control units not the collector coil itself,...
QuoteIt is possible to get results using transistors because after all, the patented control units owned by UEC are solid state.
QuoteAll the patents issued on the technology are related to the control parts only. there are 14 patents in all as i remember. non of them are revealing in nature as to the technology itself.
QuoteBY THE WAY! If someone could locate all 14 patents they would have all the information needed to make a perfect control unit..... No wonder everyone is so interested in where the patents are.
I am firmly convinced that UEC was bought out long ago.
From Lindsay:
Quotethere are many patents that do not refer to energy generation
they are under protection .(as i have been told)
a waste of time looking but search away.
Quote from: poynt99 on June 08, 2013, 06:13:02 PM
SM stated a couple of times that there ARE patents covering the control unit. Apparently there were 14 patents (not 13 as I previously posted) covering the control circuitry in various segments. Hard to say if they were ever public.
I had searched extensively for patents issued to "Steven Mark", "UEC", and "Universal Energy Corporation" with no luck.
Attached is the latest version of the TPU FAQ.
Thanks Poynt
Very interesting. ;D Is there a pdf on SMs clues and maybe what interpretations came of them?
Mags
marco made a pdf compilation some time ago and posted it here.
I could not find it in the downloads section here. Perhaps if you ask, marco will re-post it.
Quote from: poynt99 on June 08, 2013, 06:36:00 PM
marco made a pdf compilation some time ago and posted it here.
Thanks, ill look into it.
Mags
I have froze alot of coils in ice to see the fields and have never seen one that produces a spinning magnetic field like this one does, its the angle the wire cuts through the toroid, if the toroid were the right size the golden spiral could be achieve then we could pull energy from the sea of aether like water down a drain.
Dave,
Could you describe your process for freezing and analyzing your coils?
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Its simple, I use a see through container, position the coil using the coil wire or thread, power the coil with 12 volts dc or ac put in a freezer and let it freeze. It usually takes about 24 hours, although I check it about every 2 to 3 hours, watching it freeze is interesting.
I have found that purified bottled drinking water is best and Iv used all kinds, even distilled my own.
I have a small chest type freezer, I run wire leads into the freezer but the power supply is on the outside.
Interesting idea Dave. do you have any photos of some you've done?