I want to explain in brief as work a antenna for get kilowatts from radiant sources across our atmosphere
Many physicians known a phenomena was called the "Electromagnetic black Hole " is a resonant cavity phenomena consist of a power source and a receiver not passive, an active receiver send the same waves of the source at low power at the same frequency but in phase oposition, an electromagnetic wave has two components, E and B of electric and magnetic field, if the receiver antenna send waves only with B or E high level values or generates a strong field but of low energy that phenomena appears
Any can do the simulation of this process and you can see the EM waves emitted for the source in way of follow a straight line detours and shift to the receiver antenna in a phenomena like the concentration of light rays of the lens in optics, that?s say for get power from a radiant source we must build an antenna not passive , it must be active, if we do the calculations we can show than the half of the power emitted for the power source can be sucked, in practical terms all the power can be sucked because the waves not go into the receiving antenna go reflecting into the Ionosphere and return for the opossite way to the other waves
There is not dependence of the physical length of the antenna and the wave length , common radio amateur don?t know this because his purposes is not get kilowatts in his receivers, the get low power signals about miliwatts or microwatts and work with antena lengths proportionals to the wave length, but when the antenna is not passive , in active mode the sucking wave phenomena is like the antenna was physically of the desired wave length, only a single dipole antenna can do this with the apropiate hardware
This is the same occours at atomic scale, think in the black body, it sucks all the visible light and send more powerfull radiation to space was explained for Einstein as photons but not as waves, if you compare the wave length the atoms suck with the atom diameter, electron-atom distance , you will see waves are very great in lenght, this is like a sea wave of about 5 meters was sucked for a hole of only 10 cm of diameter!, that is say the atoms use this resonant cavity phenomena and atoms are emiting waves of low power for concentration and sucking of the light waves, this antenna makes the same and this effect is "independence of the distance to the power source"
In our planet there is too many powerfull radiant sources like storm lightings, in our planet there is as avereage 100 lighting discharges for second or 100 Hz as fundamental frequency,there is many megawatts for suck, the schumman resonance frequency of the Ionosphere at 7,8 Hz an many other natural radiant sources, then we have artificial wireless power sources such as ELF transmitters send 500 KW for militar purposes, AM and FM power stations and the 50 Hz and 60 Hz power lines arround the world send waves are reflecting for the Ionosphere are many others megawatts added
There is natural electromagnetic resonant cavities works in plasma gases in some levels of our atmosphere generate phenomens of energy concentration like sphere lights powered for this natural or artificial radiant sources, I known some people build lamps powered with this natural RF power
The technnology for build this antena is a strong field method, for sources like lightings there is a E component strong we can suck generating a electric field of adecuate intensity, so we can send waves of our antena of a few watts and get kilowatts or more for the autointensification of this device, many radiant sources natural or artificial are of E field more intense than B field
All this is the technnology for send and get power in wireless way are not very known
That is the way as in the device build in this site
http://radiantenergy.tk
Get 5 KW form Ionosphere as many others suck power from others sources
Bye
Could not open any of the links on your webpage.
try this mirror, is in spanish and the pdf are in spanish, you must translate
http://energiaradiante.tk
Bye
Hi Mr Tesla 2006.
I have had a good look at many of your documents.
My question to you is what devices have you actually tested and what were the results. Just simple answers.
Like the EM sucking antenna...did you fuild one..what was the input power and how much power was extracted.
What measures did you use for power in power out. Do you have any photos or videos?
Mark
I can't make heads or tails of the stuff at that link. I can recommend a good host - I can set it up myself for you... $100 a year for your own domain with a forum, blog, and initial setup of a few pages... ;)
But... I have thought about this for sometime myself. There's a thread about resonant circuits in cascade that I was involved in that evolved to using a coil as an antenna... matching a capacitor to make a LC circuit that would resonate at schuman freq. (which is at 12 hz and rising now I think)... and applying low power to make the antenna electronically larger.
Actually - you could kick it off with a magnet approaching the coil.
And if the source was at the same freq. as the resonance of the LC circuit, you would see 100-1000 times the voltage.
A combination of these ideas seem to be the key - look at the marks device.
Thanks elvis i will look into that
mark
Hmm, I am pretty skeptical about their claims. If it really works, why don?nt they show better pictures and also a pic showing to drive at least a few light bulbs ? I guess this was just an idea somebody had and the practical application failed and now he is trying to get other people to be involved who should find the bugs, that he could not resolve...
Hi Stefan,
I think you are right about this. I dont think it will hold any credability until we have some videos or test data, supported by photos. Would be nice to think it did all work but until some credability is established I will give this a wide birth.
Mark
Quote from: mkt3920 on August 12, 2006, 12:43:40 PM
Could not open any of the links on your webpage.
mkt3920 is right. These page(s) aren't uploaded to the host server. The .tk site exists, but clicking on the link(s) gets an error message.
--Lee
I was interested in this em sucking device when I first joined Overunity.com about 3 years ago but got frustrated because the articles I really needed were not in english.And my efforts to get a translation ended up in failure.You get a program to do it and the translation is so incomplete.I had a person who knew spanish and he did one page of one article and never found the time to do the rest of it.I only gave him one 3 page article to translate.The only electricity i managed to get out of the atmosphere was .04 volts from the output of a crystal set radio.These articles claim 5 kw.So go figure!!!!?????triffid
Some guy named "crump" managed to get a patent on devices that got energy from radio waves to power some lights and to power a radio.All of that patent was in english.Back in the 1950's.triffid
triffid said:
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The only electricity i managed to get out of the atmosphere was .04 volts from the output of a crystal set radio.These articles claim 5 kw.So go figure!!!!?????triffid
I think the voltage is fairly consistant with what you're using for parts. For headphones, you'll need high impedance types, if you go that route.
Some of the posts are in German on this site. Not comprehensible to me, since I'm an American. But, you're right about the Spanish.
Also, some 'Web pages are deleted by those who upload them or the hosting site. Nothing might be done about that. Just get a hard copy, I suppose.
--Lee
You want proof then look at the TPU which is a VHF version or Kapanadze video which is ELF version. They both draw free electrons from the ambient either air in VHF sucking version, or ground in ELF ground sucking systems.
In all these system you create an E resonance into the domain that you wish to tap and a much stronger B node appears.
Electron spin left hand induction creates right hand spin reply in B domain from universal pool of free electrons.
When you have fast moving B into a coil that is the very same thing as moving a magnet over it which generates guess what? electricity! Magnetic induction does not suffer entropy loss but ambient loss in theory is real. This means after you have made a 500 mega watt device you can actually deplete the local ambient of free electrons. Now you got a black hole. Who know what will happen then or the effect of turning off the vacuum suction cleaner LOL
So you dont get something for nuffin!
If you mess up and create an RF EM wave instead then you suffer entropy losses as you just made an RF transmitter instead.
Any case its all tesla nothing new here only 150 years of ignorance.
PS the super regen radio receiver is an ambient extraction system. It transmits back out on the desired frequency required excites local electrons to make the antenna grow giant "electronic ears". These local excited ambient electrons part E excitation are now part of the source that were NOT part of the original signal and will capture the incoming signal and add to the overall signal through B induction magnetic on the tuned coil which is why a gain > million can be realized from ONE RF stage as super regen.
The quenching part of the circuit allows time for the ambient B induction to end up on the coil then we switch back on again the E excitation grows and more B returns so the process is one of real gain.
Quote from: bolt on July 21, 2009, 12:46:04 PM
You want proof then look at the TPU which is a VHF version or Kapanadze video which is ELF version. They both draw free electrons from the ambient either air in VHF sucking version, or ground in ELF ground sucking systems.
In all these system you create an E resonance into the domain that you wish to tap and a much stronger B node appears.
Electron spin left hand induction creates right hand spin reply in B domain from universal pool of free electrons.
When you have fast moving B into a coil that is the very same thing as moving a magnet over it which generates guess what? electricity! Magnetic induction does not suffer entropy loss but ambient loss in theory is real. This means after you have made a 500 mega watt device you can actually deplete the local ambient of free electrons. Now you got a black hole. Who know what will happen then or the effect of turning off the vacuum suction cleaner LOL
So you dont get something for nuffin!
If you mess up and create an RF EM wave instead then you suffer entropy losses as you just made an RF transmitter instead.
Any case its all tesla nothing new here only 150 years of ignorance.
PS the super regen radio receiver is an ambient extraction system. It transmits back out on the desired frequency required excites local electrons to make the antenna grow giant "electronic ears". These local excited ambient electrons part E excitation are now part of the source that were NOT part of the original signal and will capture the incoming signal and add to the overall signal through B induction magnetic on the tuned coil which is why a gain > million can be realized from ONE RF stage as super regen.
The quenching part of the circuit allows time for the ambient B induction to end up on the coil then we switch back on again the E excitation grows and more B returns so the process is one of real gain.
thanks
Quote from: triffid on July 21, 2009, 11:24:37 AM
Some guy named "crump" managed to get a patent on devices that got energy from radio waves to power some lights and to power a radio.All of that patent was in english.Back in the 1950's.triffid
@triffid
http://www.rexresearch.com/atmoselx/atmoselx.htm
Pg. 35 of this file has a patent drawing of Lloyd Crump, the inventor. Essentially, it's a radio for receiving transmitted broadcasts from stations.
Whether or not the component values are in the patent text is questionable. Unfortunately, no patent number comes with the drawing.
Re-edit:
Patent #2,814,242
Powering Electrical Devices with Energy Extracted from the Atmospherehttp://www.google.com/patents/about?id=CcdUAAAAEBAJ&dq=patent:2813242&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=
--Lee
Read the PDF about Dr. Oleg Jefimenko, who powered an electrostatic motor with an earth-field antenna. It is basically a wire with a sharp tip connected to a balloon. Dr. Jefimenko was able to draw 70 watts of free power to run his motor from a 1200 ft wire in the sky.
According to here:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/pftm2.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/pftm2.htm)
Upto 7kW could of been harnessed if the rotor could spin at 120,000 RPMs. ???
Its certainly an interesting alternative or compliment to solar power. The issue would be whether or not you'd be permitted to fly balloons hooked with high-voltage wires to houses. The balloons cannot interfere with air traffic (an obvious problem once masses of folks do this). It might be feasible to hook an array of 50-100 ft long poles in series on your property.
The neighbours might complain about large poles so make sure you live in a rural area.
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Patent #2,814,242 Powering Electrical Devices with Energy Extracted from the Atmosphere
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=CcdUAAAAEBAJ&dq=patent:2813242&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=
There are a whole lot more of patents like these at:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7832.0
More additions to that particular thread can be added later by me or anyone else.
--Lee
yes big m,thats the crump I was talking about.The diagram of the radio is where he uses power from radiowaves to operate (power) the radio.The other two diagrams have different loads.Triffid
Quote from: triffid on July 30, 2009, 11:00:35 PM
yes big m,thats the crump I was talking about.The diagram of the radio is where he uses power from radiowaves to operate (power) the radio.The other two diagrams have different loads.Triffid
I just found this on the Web:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Radiant_Energy_Antenna_System
Goes in well with this thread and my thread on patents( http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7832.0 ).
EM sucking antenna technology was apparently marketed in the 1980's for TV reception rather than power generation.
http://www.milk.com/wall-o-shame/dish.html
This product clearly sucked!
Hi,
this is an article that seems to have the same theories!.........http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html very interesting, just need to get my head around it :o
regards
Quote from: Tesla_2006 on August 11, 2006, 10:38:09 PM
I want to explain in brief as work a antenna for get kilowatts from radiant sources across our atmosphere
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All radio antennaes are "EM Sucking antenna". Nevertheless radiant sources (including Shumann resonances) are far from providing energy enough.
Here is an interesting patent from the US army, that explains the principle of "EM Sucking":
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=5296866&KC=&FT=E
A positive feedback provided to the antenna increases its effective area. It is the principle of interference: by providing a wave that opposes in space to the received wave but adds inside the coil (a ferrite antenna), you cancel the energy in space and force it to localize in the coil.
Quote from: exnihiloest on December 30, 2009, 05:56:57 AM
All radio antennaes are "EM Sucking antenna". Nevertheless radiant sources (including Shumann resonances) are far from providing energy enough.
Here is an interesting patent from the US army, that explains the principle of "EM Sucking":
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=5296866&KC=&FT=E
A positive feedback provided to the antenna increases its effective area. It is the principle of interference: by providing a wave that opposes in space to the received wave but adds inside the coil (a ferrite antenna), you cancel the energy in space and force it to localize in the coil.
I think you just figured out what HAARP really is.
Quote from: exnihiloest on December 30, 2009, 05:56:57 AM
All radio antennaes are "EM Sucking antenna". Nevertheless radiant sources (including Shumann resonances) are far from providing energy enough.
Here is an interesting patent from the US army, that explains the principle of "EM Sucking":
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=5296866&KC=&FT=E
A positive feedback provided to the antenna increases its effective area. It is the principle of interference: by providing a wave that opposes in space to the received wave but adds inside the coil (a ferrite antenna), you cancel the energy in space and force it to localize in the coil.
http://www.unusualresearch.com/Sutton/sutton.htm
hi
that looks great.....there is a theme emerging
what bugs me a bit is that tesla (and others) lived 50 to 100 years ago (limited technology) so i keep thinking their genius was to do it in the simplest way...........i think sometimes we look at thinks too "high tech" and miss the true brilliance of what they did.
thanks