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Title: Solar Technology
Post by: Aram_Sol on January 21, 2015, 03:29:15 AM
What do you think about getting Solar energy?
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: Aram_Sol on January 23, 2015, 03:01:38 AM
I mean solar panels for turning sunlight into your own electricity.
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: MarkE on January 23, 2015, 03:28:35 AM
In places with good insolation and particularly that also have high electricity rates, it is a good investment.
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: profitis on January 23, 2015, 10:29:24 AM
And make your own solar panels.easiest thing to do
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: MarkE on January 23, 2015, 10:42:39 AM
Quote from: profitis on January 23, 2015, 10:29:24 AM
And make your own solar panels.easiest thing to do
And at today's low costs for high quality mass produced solar modules warranteed for 25 years it is an incredibly foolish undertaking.  When your house burns down due to corroded or initially bad electrical connections, watch your insurance company decline the claim.
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: profitis on January 23, 2015, 12:04:02 PM
Still too expensive for majority of people mark E.the poor don't care much for fire risks
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: MarkE on January 23, 2015, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: profitis on January 23, 2015, 12:04:02 PM
Still too expensive for majority of people mark E.the poor don't care much for fire risks
Do the math:   Using commercial modules, inverter and mounting materials,  DIY is about $1.60/W of which $0.60 - $0.65 is the PV modules.  Making the modules oneself can reduce the cost only by $0.20 - $0.25 unless using reject cells.  If someone can't afford the $0.20 - $0.25 difference between DIY modules and commercial modules then they can't afford the other $1.00 in the inverter and BOS.
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: profitis on January 23, 2015, 12:24:38 PM
 you can make your own Pb/PbO2 storage bats and own inverters too but ok most don't know how to do this and its not for amateurs.I've seen remarkable power come from some home-made photoelectrochemical systems and they are not particulary sensitive to the direction of sunshine like the solid-states silicons are.photo-electrochemical is going to become big in future vs silicon.
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: MarkE on January 23, 2015, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: profitis on January 23, 2015, 12:24:38 PM
you can make your own Pb/PbO2 storage bats and own inverters too but ok most don't know how to do this and its not for amateurs.I've seen remarkable power come from some home-made photoelectrochemical systems and they are not particulary sensitive to the direction of sunshine like the solid-states silicons are.photo-electrochemical is going to become big in future vs silicon.
LOL there are people here freaking out over 0.5ug of methyl mercury in certain vaccines and you are suggesting people play with making their own lead batteries.  Will you send them lead citrate treats to gnaw on as they toil?
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: profitis on January 23, 2015, 03:51:21 PM
Send them here to africa mark E.that'l toughen them up a bit and divert from their worrying about their nails.I once ingested about 10milligram HgCl2 just to see what effects it would have on my body..a bit of nausea some heavy diarreah and by next day all symptoms gone.was rather curious
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: Aram_Sol on January 26, 2015, 06:41:24 AM
I want to try this electricity, as I live in Los Angeles, here  http:// la-solargroup . com / is count to be one of the most recommended once, what do you think about it?
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: MarkE on January 26, 2015, 07:22:06 AM
Spam, spam, shill, spam, wonderful spam.
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: forest on January 26, 2015, 09:49:13 AM
Solar pv panels are great but not efficient. We need to invent some amplification technic allowing us to use only single 250W solar panel for all our needs  ;D  Isn't that the purpose we discuss here ?  :P
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: MarkE on January 26, 2015, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: forest on January 26, 2015, 09:49:13 AM
Solar pv panels are great but not efficient. We need to invent some amplification technic allowing us to use only single 250W solar panel for all our needs  ;D  Isn't that the purpose we discuss here ?  :P
That's sort of what solar concentrators do.  The trouble is that at today's prices, if you have the space, it costs less to put up 4kW nameplate of modules, than it does to concentrate  20 sq m aperture 16:1 onto one module's worth of cells.
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: profitis on January 26, 2015, 04:17:41 PM
Quote frm forest:'we need to invent some amplification technic allowing us to use only single 250W solar panel for all our needs  ;D  Isn't that the purpose we discuss here ?  :P'

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Introducing thermionics my friend,ta-da..unfortunately these kids chased mr hardcastle away and along with him the secrets
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: MarkE on January 27, 2015, 07:50:35 AM
Quote from: profitis on January 26, 2015, 04:17:41 PM
Quote frm forest:'we need to invent some amplification technic allowing us to use only single 250W solar panel for all our needs  ;D  Isn't that the purpose we discuss here ?  :P'

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Introducing thermionics my friend,ta-da..unfortunately these kids chased mr hardcastle away and along with him the secrets
PJH went away after making boisterous claims year after year that he could not back up.  He had no thermionic secrets to reveal.
Title: Re: Solar Technology
Post by: profitis on January 27, 2015, 05:55:09 PM
Pj was quantessential to several breakthroughs on and off this website mr E.absolutely historicly necessary and a huge influence on my own research and many others here.pj surfaced at the right time and right place and deserves utmost respect and his rightful place in history even if just for his theory contributions