https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6q_l6FpacU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6q_l6FpacU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoyDX0A02gw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTLLnUOPOQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgk0HfXhU9M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98aiISB2DNw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Z1S_1GlxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svhziXpDu2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm1UK-5-AD4
apparently, this is the explanation.
Discussion in thread of Ltseung is to be continued here.
For me, the most important thing is to idenfity what is 100% not a dead end so I can go all out on that particular thing
http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/Flywheel.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuj01VMYmkw
So it seems like this russian tried my idea, doesnt seem to work, but then again he is inverting everything.
It seems like the Bobby Premarajan devices are having issues.
Output affects input after a certain point.
Unlike your video above, there's no secondary oscillation in Bobby's newer devices. The output is directly driven by the unbalanced rotor. This is the only way to do it.
Arm
have you seen Michael's work?
Noones, my design would be ''directly connected'', via middle and middle again. twice, on both sides. An expensive and precise build.
You are talking about blue frame right?
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That man is a fraud, he has nothing.
He was gonna accept 3000$ from me for a device, 3kw 1 suqare meter cube.
ridiculous fraudster.
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Fom the resonant fractal theory, while powered acceleration, quick forward pulse AND then backward pulse, will cause atomic effect and reflect centripetal and centrifugal
135 degrees and those force will cause a blast of rotation force.
Wich could also explain why the sya putra device works, with its high cogging. But for low speeds? Anyways just a theory.
I know its something close to this, alot of money got invested into these flywheels.
Quote from: ramset on February 25, 2015, 03:48:39 PM
Arm
have you seen Michael's work?
Has anyone ever built/replicated this device?
http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/open%20source.html
The pile of Junk can be found here.
Clearly a ghost town and broken dreams.
He probably broke himself trying to chase this, nows hes trying to manipulate people.
He used to post here, forgot all about his fagget posts guy is irrelevant to me.
Even Ramset is more useful than that guy, at least he sometimes gives money away instead of absorbing it like a black hole in a ''Micheal Frost'' fashion.
Stupid idiot thought I was serious on the phone when I said I wanted the 3000$ variant, I could basicly hear his saliva dropping.
The man is quite a talker, a great storyteller.
ArmChair
So are you saying Michael was trying to sell you something?
hhm ,he definitely did not try to put the Arm on me..
but he did "spend Millions" of his own money .
@NoOne
last I spoke with Michael,he had built plenty... however did he achieve
his goal??
he would not say for certain....
With me it was over 250,000$
Let me tell you, theres about 40,000$ maximum for that pile of Junk right there, maximum.
Apparently he owned a machine shop so nothing makes sense in this story.
I dont see anymore of his work anywhere nor videos probably managed to get back his money scamming people... ''helping hands''...He would offer you ''machine time services'' so that you may also build his pile of Junk. Totally immoral.
So the reason why he didnt make any videos is because ''he doesnt give a fu** if you dont believe him, hes got OU and you dont so hes god and you are an insect'' ... quite a strange reason.
Pure manipulation...a bit of religion, politics, messiah complex will reach out to gullible people.
He was actually a pretty clever guy but no OU in his builds.
Accompanied by a friend, I visited Michael 3 years ago. Spent ~8 hours with him, toured the place, listened and saw nothing of interest. The alleged purpose of the visit was to help him 'commercialise' his working device; there was no such thing. He said to be weeks away from self-looping, but admitted that he never did simple measurements.
Had more conversations with him, but decidedly frosty.
His basic premise, that gearing, leveraging or using flywheels will magnify/amplify energy (Joules) is wrong; anyone disagrees with this?
Bill
Man, cant believe you actually wasted your time/gas going there.
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It may be true that I tend to Armchair alot, it just goes to show that my judgement is good.
Its amazing how scamful people are.
This remind me of me, when I bought 2500$ of useless stainless steel wire for Stanley Meyers experiments.
Fortunately for me, I sold 3500$ of it and kept 3 pounds of it.
4 months later, I admitted to myself that Stanley Meyers was a fraud.
I still feel bad for the guys who bought it, it haunts me to this day.
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I am confident about this new theory.
It can be done by iteration combined with good judgement and questionning.
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on February 26, 2015, 09:13:59 AM
4 months later, I admitted to myself that Stanley Meyers was a fraud.
I think you were wrong.
You know what, I hope I was.
I built this huge robust quality 3 phazer circuit for testing out the Brothers claims.
In his patent application ( rejected 6 years later )
Once the amount to set me up is peanuts compared to my net Worth I will re-investigate.
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End of duscussion, this is about the videos and theory from resonant fractals.
This has already gone off track thx to Ramster
heres a pic .
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on February 25, 2015, 04:04:59 PM
Noones, my design would be ''directly connected'', via middle and middle again. twice, on both sides. An expensive and precise build.
Are you going to present your idea here?
Arm
I apologies for injecting Michael s work into your thread.
I have to ask a question.
Are you looking for input on this or are you guys trying to finance an open source build ?
[which I would totally support if you can show merit ]
OK TO BE CLEAR
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this idea I had a few months ago is a totally different idea than the flywheels presented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=122I1e3y8ic
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I am gonna present it yes. But for organisation, they are different ideas and concept.
I am interested in many areas.
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No I dont need investors for now, still have some engineering and real world model to do.
I dont really like this public thing, its never enough and not my style.
Arm
I did get dizzy [more than usual] from you Movie.
however ...
you also seem to have put MUCH effort into this.
seems controlled chaos ...[if Not, pardon my ever expanding ignorance]
working in public does have some issues
however ultimately we are opensource ?
HMmm
you are Open source with this idea ? [for clarity]
I know how painful PUBLIC Open source research can be when some just greet
your offer with the Bat or club of Dogma ....
But You are a Tuff guy..
?.
which simulation program did you use?
Quote from: memoryman on February 26, 2015, 11:41:07 AM
which simulation program did you use?
It's Algodoo 2D simulation.
No I never work in public, tahst called being an idiot.
Its a long way to go from an algodoo kinematic showing increased energy storage to a solid OU build. Thus I showed it.
Notice that I make no claims?
Only donators get my love, just like all the internet startups.
The less donators ( more money ) possible sounds like a more effective and beneficial strategy for me and such donators.
I am a stand up guy tho in that regards.
ArmPit
No open source. :'( That's the Pits....
However Its perfectly normal behavior,just not here !!
unless your proposing donations for an open source project ?
then we would throw Roses at your feet and have the Girls fan
you and wipe your brow whilst sipping fine beverages
[think we have diet Pepsi now]
Plz I dont wanna dirty my thread. Your offer is pathetic.
I can find a single person rather easily that will beat all that you could gather along with the ''open source community'' and he will want noting to do with
me asking for public donations.
One eliminates the other, thx but no thx.
ARM
If your soliciting for a business venture !
very true...
I will not dirty your thread,I was just trying to understand what this was all
about.
Now I know, your fishing on an open source site for Big money.
Good luck with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCkID5jDZks
sadly this video was not included in the list.
approx 1:25 is the key to massive power.
Is this brutal shaking coming from a special flow switch or the box and wheel. It seems like the Hydraulics are shaking more and it gets dampened. to the flywheel
But what is what Brown box and its purpose?
Its turning @ 1000 RPM, on bearings, there is no way that this is an unbalanced wheel, this is a standard 100% balanced flywheel.
Wich is the cause of this, it appears like the metal chain is there to take the hit, and oscillate a bit left right?
VERY interesting.
Is this the sudden start and stop of matter itself making this imbalance ?
Hello
can you read at Kanarev.
http://www.borderlands.de/Links/IMPULSE%20POWER%20SECRETS-3doc.pdf
Lo
No this is something else.
Kanarev does explain this phenomenon.
Its something more secret.
Hi,
this
http://www.dlinevitch.narod.ru/Centrifuga.pdf
lo
no, this is not kararev technology, and public documents, this is better more robust state secret of indian goverment that powers whole factory.
http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/Flywheel.htm
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on March 01, 2015, 03:35:55 PM
no, this is not kararev technology, and public documents, this is better more robust state secret of indian goverment that powers whole factory.
http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/Flywheel.htm (http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/Flywheel.htm)
Actually, Lota is correct. Kanarev's explanation seems very similar to the above website's.
Actually, I didnt even read it, I saw a bunch of russian letters and I was like DAM... this is gonna be fun.
Felix Wurth Flywheel...
Is this new?
I need to concentrate.
Where is his output generator
This is also similar to Kanarev but adds an interesting new approach. The 'folded' yellow piece at the bottom acts like a spring and is claimed to double or triple the torque being applied by the rotating upper curved yellow arms once an ideal frequency is reached.
Like Kanarev, the entire unit oscillates back and forth over a over a short distance and does not fully rotate.
In the middle picture you can see the lower gear that goes off to the side to drive an output generating device.
Hello
Würth has shown no OU. Kanarev has a different system. It goes beyond an a one way bearing.
I want to test it in the next time.
Sorry for my english.
Lo
This is not the typical Wurth machine. It operates very similar to Kanarev but uses a spring to amplify torque. Karanev's device uses electric clutches to achieve OU. Without the clutches, it doesn't.
I must agree with Lota, device is unproven, looks very crude prototype (weak frame, rusty gear)
See my first videos, how those work ? ...Flywheel is balanced, NEW THEORY is needed.
This overall machine is balanced. It consists of two unbalanced weights that are 180 degrees out of phase allowing for the torque advantage of offset mass but without destroying the whole machine.
Here's another variation which is prettier... :)
I have better ideas in mind. This is unproven I dont like this quality of information. No output generator.
Pulse, Bobby, magnet mass, center point, limit, hydraulic drive.
SLINGSHOT amd magnet spike @ corners . Atomic imbalance.
Cannot speak more, too powerful.
OK can't wait to see it. When will you present it?
Soon, I will be making this as an add-on to my resume, whatever happens. this will get done as a showoff.
hope to be able to get dynamics for spaceclaim and see the beautiful 3d motion.
Quote from: ramset on February 25, 2015, 03:48:39 PM
Arm
have you seen Michael's work?
Hello Ramset,
I believe we spoke via telephone previously. Today I stumbled onto a "memoryman" post knocking me and my work. So I came to look to see what other bullshit he is trying to spread about my work. - Lo and behold I find none other the "armcortex" AKA Simeone some young punk Canadian creepy dude. A very "dark" writer of some very sinister thoughts in his mind, who unfortunately did get a guided tour via skype through parts of my CAD drawings WORKS and probably a couple of photo galleries of some of the early ACTUAL BUILDS. Fortunately the little creep tipped his hand foolishly in less than one week to show himself being not worthy of trust.
I notice he has not posted any of "his work". - Probably because he has none of his own to show. - Or like the videos he does post; only the work of others.
"memoryman" is another Canadian, and also a liar who did not last 8 hours, actually it was around lunch when he tipped his hand making comments about "reverse engineering" the WORK/PRODUCT of someone else within earshot of my hearing. He did not come to learn - he came thinking he is an expert about things he has never seen or worked with and was here to argue against almost everything that came up, and still does. (There is more to it - but maybe better left for later)
You are correct, I don't ask for money - I have/had started to ask for others to join me and HELP SHARE in WORK and COST and BENEFITS of ACTUALLY DOING what I DO.
The "armpit" cried broke but asked for more, memoryman asked for more as well. Now they just whine about what they were not shown - years ago. Neither has any clue about my real WORK.
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on February 25, 2015, 05:13:47 PM
http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/open%20source.html
The pile of Junk can be found here.
Clearly a ghost town and broken dreams.
He probably broke himself trying to chase this, nows hes trying to manipulate people.
He used to post here, forgot all about his fagget posts guy is irrelevant to me.
Even Ramset is more useful than that guy, at least he sometimes gives money away instead of absorbing it like a black hole in a ''Micheal Frost'' fashion.
Stupid idiot thought I was serious on the phone when I said I wanted the 3000$ variant, I could basicly hear his saliva dropping.
The man is quite a talker, a great storyteller.
You are quite a deranged thief and liar.
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on March 02, 2015, 11:27:38 PM
Is this new?
I need to concentrate.
Where is his output generator
Simeone you are light years behind, but keep trying. ;D
Michael
Please don't add to much stress to your life ,Some anonymous folk can get pretty bold
when throwing stones from behind the curtain...
and here we have some fellows seeking business deals in an open source Forum??
odd to say the least...
Respectfully
ChetKremens@Gmail.com
PS
and Yes we did speak by phone a few times ..
Well Mikey, your true bs comes through again.
I have never been interested in 'reverse engineering' your contraptions; they don't work.
My intent was to help you commercialize your invention; since there is nothing that works, I can'r help you.
As soon as you claimed NOT to violate LoT1 and yet 'magnify or amplify' energy using a flywheel, I was essentially done; out of compassion I (and Rudy) stayed to show you where you made your errors; it proved to be wasted time.
If you actually had something that works according to your "vision" (more like a nightmare) you would be in production instead of trolling for help.
I am actively helping others without pay of any kind, including an inventor who has a 'magnet motor' which I don't think will work.
I have also helped others no names) without getting any reward; that's what I do.
Quote from: memoryman on February 25, 2015, 09:30:13 PM
Accompanied by a friend, I visited Michael 3 years ago. Spent ~8 hours with him, toured the place, listened and saw nothing of interest. The alleged purpose of the visit was to help him 'commercialise' his working device; there was no such thing. He said to be weeks away from self-looping, but admitted that he never did simple measurements.
Had more conversations with him, but decidedly frosty.
His basic premise, that gearing, leveraging or using flywheels will magnify/amplify energy (Joules) is wrong; anyone disagrees with this?
Bill
I do.
Because that is only your thinking, not mine: and I have since demonstrated "energy" (Joules) can be DEVELOPED by man, both mathematically and measured real world.
Yet you have been unable to actually refute the basic Kinetic energy formula of a simple flywheel that shows Kinetic "energy" Joules in fact DEVELOP with the square of VELOCITY.
Feel free to try to disprove the basic physics of 1/2mv^2 and work your way through angular acceleration on up to E = Mc^2, put it all together in a single page for easy reading and of course then get back to the world with your discovery. :)
Michael
I am done 'proving' anything to you; you have demonstrated arrogance, disguised as humility.
It's up to you to DEMONSTRATE your claims; whether you do or don't will show your ability to back your claims.
I dont wanna hear your crap anymore, your fate has been sealed, nothing you can say will ever change anything.
Now my no nonsense thread has been corrupted.
Quote from: memoryman on March 05, 2015, 12:01:24 PM
I am done 'proving' anything to you; you have demonstrated arrogance, disguised as humility.
It's up to you to DEMONSTRATE your claims; whether you do or don't will show your ability to back your claims.
Yes Mr. Peiman you are done. (again ;D) You have already proven plenty about yourself, nothing about me.
You have come up against something very real that you cannot get around: basic physics and mathematics just for starters.
Try as you may that will remain for you to WORK out for yourself.
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on March 05, 2015, 05:18:39 PM
I dont wanna hear your crap anymore, your fate has been sealed, nothing you can say will ever change anything.
Now my no nonsense thread has been corrupted.
Too bad you chose to try to run my name and WORK down with your lies.
"No nonsense" .... right. The party has just started. Poor poor Simeone.
Noones, lota, I'm sorry.
Plz do not be disturbed by this nuisance.
Continue along with your questionning and opinions, logic and questionning is welcomed here.
We must be very aware that some people try to mislead us and we must be vigilant.
Fortunately, these tricks do not work because using logic and analysis of a person's behavior, attempted subversion by religion and politics that he is the wise one and thus deserves 1000's of dollars from fellow truthseekers ( to sabotage and damage us), impractical theories and 'evidence', we can see the light, and the bullshit. And safely assume, that if we stay away from these people and their traps we will be victorious.
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on March 05, 2015, 06:16:41 PM
Noones, lota, I'm sorry.
Plz do not be disturbed by this nuisance.
Continue along with your questionning and opinions, logic and questionning is welcomed here.
We must be very aware that some people try to mislead us and we must be vigilant.
Fortunately, these tricks do not work because using logic and analysis of a person's behavior, attempted subversion by religion and politics that he is the wise one and thus deserves 1000's of dollars from fellow truthseekers ( to sabotage and damage us), impractical theories and 'evidence', we can see the light, and the bullshit. And safely assume, that if we stay away from these people and their traps we will be victorious.
You are a very disturbed young man/boy. You were never asked for a dime - you did ask how much it cost to build one of what you were shown: and I told you about 3000.00; you then cried how poor you are and a lot of other sob story crap. You are the one who was screen capturing and stupid enough to call me to ask for "higher resolution". Which tipped me off as to what you were up to on top of all your very bizarre mental patient writings trying to impress to get me to show you more.
Yes you are "sorry" in the true meaning of the word: PATHETIC - just not worthy of the pity one expects with it.
If you did get anything from my WORK: that's great - because I gave it to you. Dummy.
And where does "Temporal Visitor" get the electricity he uses to run his home and workshop, I wonder?
No, actually I don't wonder. You can see here the perfect example of how _false claimants_ behave when their claims are challenged. Instead of responding with reasonable science-based explanations or unequivocal demonstrations... they start up with the insults and ad-hominem abuse. It is something that we have seen many times on this forum -- even in several threads by several false claimants simultaneously. What we have _never seen_ is such a person actually refuting the critics with actual proof of their claims. It is as though they are all following the exact same script.
And you were ready to swallow up that 3000$ werent you, ready to build me me a square meter cube that provides me 3kw... Yeah right.
I dont wanna start a fight, I was never gonna mention you and forgot all about you, but then...Ratset mentionned you and shit got impulsive, since this thread was originally about impulses.
As you can see, we are FAR AHEAD in this thread in trying to pinpoint the exact mechanism, and your theories simply do not satisfy me.
But plz, if you wanna redeem yourself. ''Elastic collisions'' , carbon flywheels... where are you taking me here $$ wise? See those peasants and their steel.
Because I really dont care, if you have it or not, anything you can do, I can do.
And my videos...alot more to the point than your whole backgauges disaster, I cannot even get to pertinent info no where.
Ideas, direct and indirect you get form watching these, no text, no BS, I explicitally, tell my doubts that it will work.
And if you notice...No claims... No asking, refusing and insulting ratset as always.
Who is this message aimed at? Your Backgauges.
Mike got his own forum at R-G: http://revolution-green.com/forum/ 6 months ago.
Judge for yourself.
Quote from: TinselKoala on March 05, 2015, 06:48:17 PM
And where does "Temporal Visitor" get the electricity he uses to run his home and workshop, I wonder?
No, actually I don't wonder. You can see here the perfect example of how _false claimants_ behave when their claims are challenged. Instead of responding with reasonable science-based explanations or unequivocal demonstrations... they start up with the insults and ad-hominem abuse. It is something that we have seen many times on this forum -- even in several threads by several false claimants simultaneously. What we have _never seen_ is such a person actually refuting the critics with actual proof of their claims. It is as though they are all following the exact same script.
No TK there is no script here and I have no fight with you.
You really need to look at where and how I even got here today, and of course by who wrote what they wrote about me. Not to my face. - I did not post in this thread until I stumbled upon "insults and ad-hominem abuse" and outright lies written about me.
I've seen your work, given you credit for what I saw. - You have been invited to contact me privately and have not. I don't wonder or need to ask why not.
You'll be hard pressed to show or find that I started this pure bullshit in this thread.
My name and work is my business as is yours.
I will kindly remind that the original purpose of this thread was to show these videos.
And theorize about the idea of twisted and redirected centrifugal and centripetal force into rotation force under impulse input
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6q_l6FpacU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6q_l6FpacU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoyDX0A02gw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCkID5jDZks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTLLnUOPOQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgk0HfXhU9M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98aiISB2DNw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Z1S_1GlxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svhziXpDu2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm1UK-5-AD4
apparently, this is the explanation.
http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/Flywheel.htm
Discussion in thread of Ltseung is to be continued here.
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on March 05, 2015, 06:54:24 PM
And you were ready to swallow up that 3000$ werent you, ready to build me me a square meter cube that provides me 3kw... Yeah right.
I dont wanna start a fight, I was never gonna mention you and forgot all about you, but then...Ratset mentionned you and shit got impulsive, since this thread was originally about impulses.
As you can see, we are FAR AHEAD in this thread in trying to pinpoint the exact mechanism, and your theories simply do not satisfy me.
But plz, if you wanna redeem yourself. ''Elastic collisions'' , carbon flywheels... where are you taking me here $$ wise? See those peasants and their steel.
Because I really dont care, if you have it or not, anything you can do, I can do.
And my videos...alot more to the point than your whole backgauges disaster, I cannot even get to pertinent info no where.
Ideas, direct and indirect you get form watching these, no text, no BS, I explicitally, tell my doubts that it will work.
And if you notice...No claims... No asking, refusing and insulting ratset as always.
Who is this message aimed at? Your Backgauges.
"I dont wanna start a fight, I was never gonna mention you and forgot all about you, but ..........." - You would have done better to not have DONE WHAT YOU DID!
"And you were ready to swallow up that 3000$ werent you, ........." - NO I was not, I'll leave it up to you to provide evidence to the contrary smart ass.
"As you can see, we are FAR AHEAD in this thread in trying to pinpoint the exact mechanism, and your theories simply do not satisfy me." - While you try I already have, and it is public knowledge. But you are "free" to find out on your own to whatever degree of satisfaction you can find - if any.
"But plz, if you wanna redeem yourself. ''Elastic collisions'' , carbon flywheels... where are you taking me here $$ wise? See those peasants and their steel." - "Carbon flywheels" is not anything I recall writing about as a requirement = you are confused. From recollection you were expecting something the size of a laptop that would run your life, power your car, give you a blow job on the way home from work among other things, sitting on a shelf at Wally World and cost about 50.00.
Which IS DELUSIONAL...! - "Because I really dont care, if you have it or not, anything you can do, I can do." = The most intelligent thing you wrote so far, and maybe true if you can go the distance. - "And my videos...alot more to the point than your whole backgauges disaster, I cannot even get to pertinent info no where." = First of all most likely not a one of them is "YOURS", secondly there is plenty of pertinent info all over, it is not my job to spoon feed lazy little pukes like you. - "Ideas, direct and indirect you get form watching these, no text, no BS, I explicitally, tell my doubts that it will work." = Great, and all that remains ahead of you IS ACTUALLY DOING IT - ALL OF IT, to find out what does and does not WORK like you "think" it should and WHY, HOW, WHERE, and WHEN IT IS USABLE - IF; at all, IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT.
"And if you notice...No claims... No asking, refusing and insulting ratset as always." = You should go back and re-read your own words. :P
"Who is this message aimed at? Your Backgauges." = Brilliant display of intelligence from the mind of one who has taken on much more than he "thinks" can be gleaned from watching videos alone.
Good luck Simeone, I did not WANT to fight - but you are so far behind I will be gone long before you "get it": IF EVER. = Please excuse yourself and retract your vile accusations and I will leave you as I found you: in the dark.
All of it is a creation of me inspired by someone else, my videos, all original ideaswich are there for everyone to replicate.
All devices works in a very special way, and much works needs to be done, thus moneys needs to be invested strategically in a smart design..
And many idiots such as yourself need to be ignored as I go along, for me to be succesful.
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on March 05, 2015, 09:33:28 PM
All of it is a creation of me inspired by someone else, my videos, all original ideaswich are there for everyone to replicate.
All devices works in a very special way, and much works needs to be done, thus moneys needs to be invested strategically in a smart design..
And many idiots such as yourself need to be ignored as I go along, for me to be succesful.
Thing is; Not one posted is yours.
You are trolling for money.
I'm not and don't.
No, I was talking to noones and lota, then the ever so exberant ratset reminded me of your existence.
I dont know what is your intense hatred of videos. They are very visual hard to fake a 100% shown demonstration withotu video editing.
If you notice, everybody is doing them, and alot can be learned from them, more than you ''think''.
And they really do speak millions of dollars, for example: the palladium investment devices and tour of assembly line.
Now that stuff speaks to me, more than your backgauges.
I respect you as a soldier of gravity. You should look for redemption by imparting some knowledge of worth on this thread immediatly.
Because so far, you have been quite boring.
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on March 05, 2015, 10:13:42 PM
No, I was talking to noones and lota, then the ever so exberant ratset reminded me of your existence.
I dont know what is your intense hatred of videos. They are very visual hard to fake a 100% shown demonstration withotu video editing.
If you notice, everybody is doing them, and alot can be learned from them, more than you ''think''.
And they really do speak millions of dollars, for example: the palladium investment devices and tour of assembly line.
Now that stuff speaks to me, more than your backgauges.
I respect you as a soldier of gravity. You should look for redemption by imparting some knowledge of worth on this thread immediatly.
Because so far, you have been quite boring.
"Redemption ......... " = Really? - Who is getting "religious" now?
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BTW, never have I seen such beautiful truth, the man who wrote this deserves praise."
Your words paint a clear picture about your own truthfulness.
"Fortunately, these tricks do not work because using logic and analysis of a person's behavior, attempted subversion by religion and politics that he is the wise one and thus deserves 1000's of dollars from fellow truthseekers ( to sabotage and damage us), impractical theories and 'evidence', we can see the light, and the bullshit. And safely assume, that if we stay away from these people and their traps we will be victorious."
So here you now have what exactly you asked for: "some knowledge of worth on this thread immediatly [sic]"
Hope you enjoy that I put a picture that shows what you are to make the point crystal clear: http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/members%20area.html
Truth is: you have not learned enough to be - Careful about what you ask for - because you just might get more than you can handle.
hahaha, I love what I wrote.
I'm so funny.
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on March 06, 2015, 07:56:52 AM
hahaha, I love what I wrote.
I'm so funny.
YES you are A real queer joke.
Quote from: memoryman on March 05, 2015, 07:21:33 PM
Mike got his own forum at R-G: http://revolution-green.com/forum/ 6 months ago.
Judge for yourself.
Another classic "appeal to authority" since the going got tough, so you attempt to sidestep the "inconvenient facts" you have no way around.
Problem is you hail from there at "RG" and thanks to the world renown mark E the audience here can read what he suggested be read on fraudsters:
"www.revolution-green.com | Physics Review Board
https://physicsreviewboard.wordpress.com/category/www-revolution..."
"1. Introduction. Recently the gullible fools who operate the "Revolution-Green" website have given a wonderful helping hand to the vicious swindler and con ..."
Keep writing as ngepro, memoryman or any other name you choose and remember you still have to deal with the fact of basic physics.
Moreover; You appeal to a so-called "authority" that looks rather silly since you are part of it.
BTW: I especially enjoyed the "nit-witt" comments made by PRB ....... in light of the fact you previously wrote you were DONE.
My turn to let you know - you are DONE.
powering your house/business with your contraptions yet?
Quote from: Temporal Visitor on March 06, 2015, 08:35:40 AM
Another classic "appeal to authority" since the going got tough, so you attempt to sidestep the "inconvenient facts" you have no way around.
Problem is you hail from there at "RG" and thanks to the world renown mark E the audience here can read what he suggested be read on fraudsters:
"www.revolution-green.com | Physics Review Board
https://physicsreviewboard.wordpress.com/category/www-revolution..."
"1. Introduction. Recently the gullible fools who operate the "Revolution-Green" website have given a wonderful helping hand to the vicious swindler and con ..."
Keep writing as ngepro, memoryman or any other name you choose and remember you still have to deal with the fact of basic physics.
Moreover; You appeal to a so-called "authority" that looks rather silly since you are part of it.
BTW: I especially enjoyed the "nit-witt" comments made by PRB ....... in light of the fact you previously wrote you were DONE.
My turn to let you know - you are DONE.
Following the link leads to this post by you:
QuoteQuoteTemporal Visitor/guest • 6 months ago
Here are the formulas used - debunk away - that part is up to you.
Users enter data in 3 different places ~ "We enter a Diameter and Thickness to define a cylindrical OBJECT."
INPUT - Diameter (inches) @ A5 ~ ("Also we now learn a radius (C5) to be used several different ways.")
INPUT - Width (inches) @ A6 ~ "From this we learn the CUBIC INCHES of VOLUME of the OBJECT made from SOLID MATTER occupies in "Space"."
INPUT - Velocity/RPM at A8 [~this is what I refer to as "design Velocity" ~]
Calculations made from inputs in INCHES:
OUTPUT - Radius is calculated in C5 ..... =A5*0.5 [~ Diameter / 2 ~]
OUTPUT - Radius is converted to metric in G5 .... radius = (d/2) * 2.54 / 100 [~ inches converted to meters ~]
OUTPUT - Radius in meters is squared in I5 .... =G5*G5 [~ Radius meters squared ~]
OUTPUT - Radians are calculated in G8 .... =A8/60*2*3.1416 [~ RPM / 60 x 2 x pie ~]
OUTPUT - Radians per second squared calculated in I8 ~ =G8 x G8 [~ Radians per second ~]
OUTPUT - Area is calculated in D5 ..... =C5*C5*3.14159265 [~ Radius x radius x pie ~]
OUTPUT - Volume C.I. is calculated in C6 .... =D5*A6 [~ Area x length (width) in inches 0.0000 ~]
OUTPUT - Mass (weight pounds) displayed in A7 .... =SUM(C6)*0.28333333 [~ Cubic inches x density lb/in^3 ~]
Pounds are weight, not mass. The English unit for mass is the slug.
QuoteQuote
OUTPUT - Ounces are displayed in D7 .... =A7*16 [~ Pounds x 16 ~]
OUTPUT - OZ converted to kg in G7 ..... =C7/16/2.204 [~ mass = (m / 16) / 2.204 ~ ounces to kilograms ~]
OUTPUT - Surface speed I.P.S. in C8 .... =A8/60*3.1416*2*A5/2 [~ RPM / 60 x 3.1416 x 2 x radius inches ~]
OUTPUT - Inertia (kg*mA squared) in C10 .... =0.5*G7*I5 [~ Inertia = .5 * mass * (radius * radius) [* Moment of
inertia for disk type*] ~]
OUTPUT - ENERGY in JOULES in C9 .... =0.5*C10*I8 [~ 1/2 of Inertia x radians per second squared or KE = 0.5
* Inertia * (V * V) [* Kinetic energy for disk type*]
OUTPUT - ENERGY in JOULES in C12 .... =C9*2 [* Kinetic energy doubled for rim type*]
OUTPUT - Inertia (kg*mA squared) in C13 .... =C10*2 [* Inertia doubled for rim type*]
OUTPUT - JOULES converted to Torque in G9 .... =C9*0.7376 [~ Joules x 0.7376 = Torque foot pounds ~]
Torque and energy are independent properties. You may be confusing lb. ft. and ft. lbs. A foot pound is a unit of work described as: One pound of force applied through one foot distance. A pound foot is a unit of torque expressed as one pound of force applied tangentially at a distance from the pivot of one foot.
QuoteQuote
OUTPUT - DEVELOPED Horsepower per second is displayed in J9 .... =A8*G9/5252/550 [~ RPM x Torque ft.lbs.
/ 5252 / 550 ~]
HP/s are completely non-sensical units of energy per second per second.
QuoteQuote
The table below the calculator simply shows the effect of Velocity on Joules of ENERGY developed, and also displays its conversion to Torque/Horsepower
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Misc. notes;
Flywheel Energy Calculator
Input US
dataform,m,d,rpm,units and convert to metric
mass = (m / 16) / 2.204 [* ounces to kilograms *]
radius = (d/2) * 2.54 / 100 [* inches to meters *]
Input Metric dataform
mass = m / 1000 [* grams to kilograms *]
radius = d/2 / 1000 [* mm to meters *]
Vsurface = (rpm/60) * 3.142 * 2 * radius
V = (rpm/60) * 2 * 3.142 [* convert RPM to radians per second *]
Inertia = .5 * mass * (radius * radius) [* Moment of inertia for disk *]
KE = 0.5 * Inertia * (V * V) [* Kinetic energy for disk *]
cforce = ( 4 * (3.142 * 3.142) * mass * radius) / ((1/(rpm/60)) * ((1/(rpm/60))))
cforce_pounds = 0.2248 * cforce
ke_disk.value = KE
ke_ring.value = KE * 2
cforce.value = cforce
cforce_kg.value = cforce *
0.1019716;
surface_speed.value =
Vsurface;
inertia_disk.value = Inertia;
inertia_ring.value = Inertia * 2;
Metric (grams, mm) ="units"
English (ounces, inches)="units"
Diameter
input name="d"
Centrifugal Force (Newtons)
="cforce"
RPM ="rpm"
Surface Speed
(M/sec)
This is a simple spreadsheet energy calculator for flywheels extracted from more complex ones I wrote for myself as a design tool to save me hours of number crunching with each and every little design change made trying to optimize systems - BEFORE wasting time and material BUILDING the wrong ones.
It computes kinetic energy values for ideal disk or ring flywheel configurations.
Most real flywheels will fall somewhere in between due to the hub and spokes. - At G14 is an "averaged" ft. lbs. (lingering from other works)
Flywheel mass and diameter can be specified in Metric (grams/millimeters) or English units (ounces/inches) with minor changes.
ENERGY Output is Metric only.
Set for US "English" input by default, simply enter diameter, width and rpm values the rest is automatic.
P.S.:
"Foot-pound" is sometimes also used as a unit of torque (see Pound-foot (torque)).
In the United States this unit is often used to specify, for example, the tightness of a bolt or the output of an
engine. Although they are dimensionally equivalent, energy (a scalar), and torque (a vector) are distinct physical
quantities.
Both energy and torque can be expressed as a product of a force vector with a displacement vector (hence
pounds and feet); energy is the scalar product of the two, and torque is the vector product.
Conversion to other units
Energy units
1 foot-pound is equivalent to:
1.3558179483314 joules
13558179.483314 ergs
0.001285067 British thermal units
0.323832 gram calories
0.000323832 kilogram calories
Power units
1 watt ≈ 44.25372896 ft·lbf/min = 0.737562149333 ft·lbf/sec
1 horsepower (mechanical) = 33,000 ft·lbf/min = 550 ft·lbf/s
Garbage In => Garbage Out
I wish to thank all the participants in showing temporal your support for his work.
I will now ask you to remain on the original topic.
Quote from: memoryman on March 06, 2015, 09:58:51 AM
powering your house/business with your contraptions yet?
Portions.
"Truth requires few words."
Good day
"Truth requires few words." That's why your posts and website are packed with words...
Quote from: MarkE on March 06, 2015, 05:37:39 PM
Following the link leads to this post by you:
Pounds are weight, not mass. The English unit for mass is the slug.Torque and energy are independent properties. You may be confusing lb. ft. and ft. lbs. A foot pound is a unit of work described as: One pound of force applied through one foot distance. A pound foot is a unit of torque expressed as one pound of force applied tangentially at a distance from the pivot of one foot.HP/s are completely non-sensical units of energy per second per second.
Garbage In => Garbage Out
Hello again,
Thanks for posting all you have, just so you "know" I enjoyed reading the PRB site. Nice find! Even had some real "nuggets of truth".
"Pounds are weight, not mass. The English unit for mass is the slug." = OK so what? I know that as well. Big deal. The calculator was written for me, not for you. It is my unlocked OPEN SOURCE work given as a gift. - If you wish to use "Slugs" change it to suit yourself to whatever your mind works best with.
"Torque and energy are independent properties." = OK so what? I know that as well. Big deal. Evidenced by the fact the calculator displays them separately, and uses the outputs in the proper place correctly.
"You may be confusing lb. ft. and ft. lbs. A foot pound is a unit of work described as: One pound of force applied through one foot distance. A pound foot is a unit of torque expressed as one pound of force applied tangentially at a distance from the pivot of one foot." = OK so what? I know that as well. Big deal. I won't pick on you for not being certain where you have written "You may be" which shows you DO NOT KNOW, therefore I WILL WAIT FOR YOU TO CATCH UP. But please be quick and by all means take the time to read what is explained very clearly regarding this exact matter in my work you have copied and pasted for discussion.
Me, myself, and I: "we" are all certain, beyond any doubt thus not "confused" the calculations are quite "write". (humor intended)
"HP/s are completely non-sensical units of energy per second per second." = A twist from your mind/hand. My writing "Horsepower per second" does not mean what you and others attempt to claim: HP/s. Therefore I agree, your twist: HP/s is non-sense, and it originates in your mind/hand, NOT MINE!
You are CON-fusing POWER (Horsepower) with ENERGY. - I am not.
As for "Garbage In => Garbage Out"
You can surely write or say whatever you please but none of it will change the truth of the mathematics. That is a fact you nor I can get around in reality.
Quote from: memoryman on March 06, 2015, 08:47:26 PM
"Truth requires few words." That's why your posts and website are packed with words...
Let's see you do better.
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on March 06, 2015, 07:27:45 PM
I wish to thank all the participants in showing temporal your support for his work.
I will now ask you to remain on the original topic.
You still can:
"Excuse yourself and I will leave you as I found you: in the dark."
Quote from: Temporal Visitor on March 06, 2015, 10:28:30 PM
Hello again,
Thanks for posting all you have, just so you "know" I enjoyed reading the PRB site. Nice find! Even had some real "nuggets of truth".
"Pounds are weight, not mass. The English unit for mass is the slug." = OK so what? I know that as well. Big deal.
Yet you erroneously treated weight as mass. If you knew the difference, then why did you do that?
QuoteThe calculator was written for me, not for you. It is my unlocked OPEN SOURCE work given as a gift. - If you wish to use "Slugs" change it to suit yourself to whatever your mind works best with.
Do you mean if I want to fix your mistakes I should do that? But then what? Do we stick with your erroneous postulates based on your erroneous formulae?
Quote
"Torque and energy are independent properties." = OK so what? I know that as well. Big deal. Evidenced by the fact the calculator displays them separately, and uses the outputs in the proper place correctly.
Again, if you knew then why did you offer the false equivalencies? Are you saying that you have deliberately misrepresented very simple physics?
Quote
"You may be confusing lb. ft. and ft. lbs. A foot pound is a unit of work described as: One pound of force applied through one foot distance. A pound foot is a unit of torque expressed as one pound of force applied tangentially at a distance from the pivot of one foot." = OK so what? I know that as well. Big deal. I won't pick on you for not being certain where you have written "You may be" which shows you DO NOT KNOW, therefore I WILL WAIT FOR YOU TO CATCH UP. But please be quick and by all means take the time to read what is explained very clearly regarding this exact matter in my work you have copied and pasted for discussion.
Me, myself, and I: "we" are all certain, beyond any doubt thus not "confused" the calculations are quite "write". (humor intended)
Your humor may be inteded but your formulae are junk.
Quote
"HP/s are completely non-sensical units of energy per second per second." = A twist from your mind/hand. My writing "Horsepower per second" does not mean what you and others attempt to claim: HP/s. Therefore I agree, your twist: HP/s is non-sense, and it originates in your mind/hand, NOT MINE!
Yet it is your concoction.
Quote
You are CON-fusing POWER (Horsepower) with ENERGY. - I am not.
As for "Garbage In => Garbage Out"
You can surely write or say whatever you please but none of it will change the truth of the mathematics. That is a fact you nor I can get around in reality.
You asserted a series of incorrect fomulae. Now you claim they generate valid results. That is pure delusion.
Quote from: MarkE on March 07, 2015, 12:10:31 AM
Yet you erroneously treated weight as mass. If you knew the difference, then why did you do that?Do you mean if I want to fix your mistakes I should do that? But then what? Do we stick with your erroneous postulates based on your erroneous formulae?Again, if you knew then why did you offer the false equivalencies? Are you saying that you have deliberately misrepresented very simple physics?Your humor may be inteded but your formulae are junk.Yet it is your concoction.You asserted a series of incorrect fomulae. Now you claim they generate valid results. That is pure delusion.
"Yet you erroneously treated weight as mass. " = Another invalid assertion by you.
The calculator is written to "calculate", and does so. The mass is "CALCULATED" FROM DIAMETER, WIDTH, thus VOLUME, by, along with the objects DENSITY and shows the output in units the real world Man can relate to. Quite correctly.
Evidenced in my writing: "OUTPUT - Mass (weight pounds) displayed in A7 .... =SUM(C6)*0.28333333 [~ Cubic inches x density lb/in^3 ~]"
That single point (evidences your invalid assertion) all by itself refutes and renders the rest of your assertions, and questions entirely baseless.
To help you CATCH UP I suggest you re-read my work before injecting your CON-fused commentary. Also you may find this: http://serc.carleton.edu/mathyouneed/density/index.html instructive.
"You can surely write or say whatever you please but none of it will change the truth of the mathematics. That is a fact you nor I can get around in reality. "
Quote from: Temporal Visitor on March 07, 2015, 06:07:05 AM
"Yet you erroneously treated weight as mass. " = Another invalid assertion by you.
LOL, It is taken directly from quoting your post.
Quote
The calculator is written to "calculate", and does so. The mass is "CALCULATED" FROM DIAMETER, WIDTH, thus VOLUME, by, along with the objects DENSITY and shows the output in units the real world Man can relate to. Quite correctly.
As was shown to you first by Simon, no, your spreadsheet has errors.
Quote
Evidenced in my writing: "OUTPUT - Mass (weight pounds) displayed in A7 .... =SUM(C6)*0.28333333 [~ Cubic inches x density lb/in^3 ~]"
Weight is gravitational force which can be measured in pounds. Weight is not mass. The English unit for mass is a slug. The acceleration due to the earth's gravity exhibits an average weight at sea level on one slug of ~32.2 lbs. Move from sea level and the force of gravity per unit mass changes.
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That single point (evidences your invalid assertion) all by itself refutes and renders the rest of your assertions, and questions entirely baseless.
LOL, so you
assert.
Quote
To help you CATCH UP I suggest you re-read my work before injecting your CON-fused commentary. Also you may find this: http://serc.carleton.edu/mathyouneed/density/index.html instructive.
"You can surely write or say whatever you please but none of it will change the truth of the mathematics. That is a fact you nor I can get around in reality. "
If you want to wallow in ignorance, that is your choice.
Quote from: MarkE on March 07, 2015, 11:43:04 AM
LOL, It is taken directly from quoting your post.As was shown to you first by Simon, no, your spreadsheet has errors.Weight is gravitational force which can be measured in pounds. Weight is not mass. The English unit for mass is a slug. The acceleration due to the earth's gravity exhibits an average weight at sea level on one slug of ~32.2 lbs. Move from sea level and the force of gravity per unit mass changes.LOL, so you assert.If you want to wallow in ignorance, that is your choice.
Thanks anyhow but I chose science over ignorance long ago and actually have something to show for it rather than merely an internet "expert" persona .
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
If you wish to carry on in your attempt that's fine - but you really should read my work. If you had you would already know the calculator does the mass calculation as I previously pointed out and BY NOW you should have known or would have deduced it is in SI kilograms.
http://eformulae.com/physics/mass.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slug_%28mass%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot%E2%80%93pound%E2%80%93second_system#force
Just so you know; Simon (who I respect) never showed anything - he never opened the calculator - he couldn't. But he did attempt to cut it down and the math stood his attack.
So "Simon sez" attacks just don't cut it. No better than the memoryman "Expert in several fields" failed attacks and appeals to "authority" that brought none other than you here to attempt/do what he is incapable of. Your drive by attacks are wasted effort for both of us. I DON"T NEED IT OR YOU and that's a fact.
Are you able to rise to the occasion of actually dissecting the calculator on YOUR OWN documenting YOUR WORK as a "peer" to FULLY review and debunk/verify mine?
You are an "expert" and able to work in Micro Sloth excel .......... right?
You have quite the imagination. I am sure the world will be amazed when you show your working OU device.
Temporal you are free to share your views. As long as you stay on topic and stop bickering.
Me and noones were having a fruitful conversation in this thread I made, a refuge of ignorance and oasis of knowledge.
Quote from: Temporal Visitor on March 08, 2015, 08:00:49 PM
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Well, there is a very big difference here. Feynman was a genius...you are not. Feynman was classically trained as a physicist so he learned all that had come before his time, you have not. For you to apply this quote of his is laughable to say the least.
Bill
Quote from: MarkE on March 08, 2015, 08:24:12 PM
You have quite the imagination. I am sure the world will be amazed when you show your working OU device.
"OU" device"? Please don't inject delusional thinking.
http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/overunity.html
Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 08, 2015, 09:00:20 PM
Well, there is a very big difference here. Feynman was a genius...you are not. Feynman was classically trained as a physicist so he learned all that had come before his time, you have not. For you to apply this quote of his is laughable to say the least.
Bill
"he learned all that had come before his time," that is laughable.
When will your Nobel-prize winning invention go into production, oh anointed one?
Quote from: ARMCORTEX on March 08, 2015, 08:52:29 PM
Temporal you are free to share your views. As long as you stay on topic and stop bickering.
Me and noones were having a fruitful conversation in this thread I made, a refuge of ignorance and oasis of knowledge.
Then don't bicker when I tell you my view: "a refuge of ignorance" is what you made and deserve.
Quote from: Temporal Visitor on March 08, 2015, 10:13:37 PM
"he learned all that had come before his time," that is laughable.
Laughing at a very intelligent and respected physicist shows where you are coming from. You are the one that posted his quote to suit your point of view. Have you read his books? I have. All of them. From an early age he learned conventional science. He spoke about catching up with what was learned before his time. Then, he went out on his own...but with a great understanding of science and nature.
Now you laugh at that.
OK.
Fine.
Bill
Quote from: memoryman on March 08, 2015, 10:21:55 PM
When will your Nobel-prize winning invention go into production, oh anointed one?
Thanks anyways.
Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 08, 2015, 10:28:59 PM
Laughing at a very intelligent and respected physicist shows where you are coming from. You are the one that posted his quote to suit your point of view. Have you read his books? I have. All of them. From an early age he learned conventional science. He spoke about catching up with what was learned before his time. Then, he went out on his own...but with a great understanding of science and nature.
Now you laugh at that.
OK.
Fine.
Bill
I did not laugh AT him - I laughed AT YOU writing what you did attempting to knock me when you do not really know me, my studies or my work. Feynman was intelligent enough to state he did not know what energy is, I agreed and learned from there. I admit I don't know "all". You might try to do the same.
Here is a page I wrote on "knowledge" - read it if you please http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/knowledge.html then if you choose to criticize me you'll have all kinds of ammo to pick from.
As for my use of that quote: it fit perfectly.
Your key concepts are a confused mess.
Impressive MarkE.
Nothing gets past you, I'd like to hire you as a lawyer.