Here is what I need
I need a correct diagram showing the magnetic-poles( where N and S poles are pointing ) of all of the magnets interacting in the Siberian Kolya, in the video below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdSSMoUT4g
( Yes, I know that the above video looks like it needs no explanation, but I don't know if the hexagonal-nuts they used have something to do with the effect )
( I have tried replicating this at home, but with no luck )
[ There is another video of this, which also uses small toy-cars, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiMQPeYJrQ , and in this one, I don't understand what the black magnet sandwiched in between the flat square silver magnets is , and I cannot work out a diagram of where the magnetic-poles( where N and S poles are pointing ) of all of the magnets ]
The video below just uses a toroidal-magnet and a cylinder magnet( made of smaller disc-magnets ), and I can easily compare that to a diagram of a toroidal-magnet showing the little neutral-zone that occurs in it's magnetic field .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUihboGkJnE
[ There should be an individual Wikipedia page devoted to this. I have searched a lot on the web, but there is nothing suitable . If a Wikipedia page would be made, it should just stick to the basics of the effect, instead of more complex designs . ]
You would think that if a very light cylinder magnet was put in the little neutral-zone below a toroidal-magnet( the toroidal magnet pointing to the ground ) that then the very light cylinder magnet might levitate successfully ( but I assume it may spin out sideways ).
Or, if the light cylinder magnet was shaped fatter at its end closest to the earth, so that it would be stabilized by the fatter end ( but then the fat end would be more attracted to the toroidal magnet ) ]
But, all I need is the diagram described in the first paragraph .
those type of ceramic magnets are N/S through the flat faces.
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/ N /|
/____/ /
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and on the nuts there's one north up and one north down. the nuts will allow the N and N poles to be attached together...
Similar to correlated magnetic research (CMR)
http://www.polymagnet.com/polymagnet-catalog/ (videos at bottom)
can make an attraction and repulsion in the same area...
Here maybe I should draw a picture...
I don't know the answer.
This should interest you:
http://overunity.com/15083/the-new-generator-no-effect-counter-b-emf-part-2-selfrunning/120/#.Ve7fWHfaAgg
Spelling can be everything in Google. I think colia is a preferred spelling.
You may find this interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs94RpN9MyA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs94RpN9MyA)
and a mention at the bottom of this page:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19576-hogan-jakovlewich-overunity-generator.html?highlight=colia (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19576-hogan-jakovlewich-overunity-generator.html?highlight=colia)
The video linked in the OP has nothing to do with Marinov's Siberian Coliu other than being mentioned in Nikolayev's book. Rather, it is what I call the Nikolayev trailer-hitch. The key to success is using spacers properly between the sandwiched magnets. Or using ring magnet + bar magnet as I have illustrated in my videos.
The video linked by Paul-R is a type of Siberian Coliu but does _not_ cover the most interesting behaviours of this system, nor does it use the proper kind of magnet rotor. Search Google using this spelling.
Here is another good video showing some work with the Siberian Coliu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTuDrJVzCpo
Unfortunately this system also does not show the most interesting behaviour.
If you are really interested in this system, look for Jeffrey Kooistra's "Warlock's Wheel" work when he was writing for Mallove's Infinite Energy magazine. Kooistra did demonstrate the really interesting phenomena in a simple system that you can reproduce on your tabletop.
When the device is constructed as Marinov and Nikolayev actually specified, with oppositely oriented bar magnets as the "rotor" and a single flat conductive ring "stator", free to move co-axially with the central bar magnet rotor, then you will start to see the most amazing things. The "stator" is contacted by brushes on the outer edge. When current is applied, the rotor turns one way, and the stator turns the other way. BUT... when the brushes contact the "stator" ring on the _inner_ edge, then when current is applied, the rotor bar magnets turn one way... and the stator ring turns _in the same direction_.
I think the reason you don't see more discussion of this phenomenon is that many people simply don't believe it. Look up Kooistra's work.
This, from "Infinite energy" magazine, relates:
http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue39/deviceupdate.html
d3x0r , I was thinking that the diagram I have posted below, would succeed in making the magnetic-coupling effect . Trying with my configuration seems to get on the track to success( even though I don't succeed), but when I try your configuration I get less near to the effect .
( I based my diagram on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdSSMoUT4g )
My diagram seems to be the opposite of your diagram, but I assume you would be right .
( You based your diagram on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiMQPeYJrQ )
This magnetic-coupling effect would be an important invention/principle for many researchers in overunity and other fields, and deserves a wikipedia page ( and another wikipedia page for the topic and the founding work related to it ).
TinselKoala , I only needed the thing I typed above.
But, I had read one of your posts in this site, when you were experimenting with the powered designs related to this, and you typed that when you switched the current from a continuous current to a pulsed-current, that the results changed dramatically ( that two components started rotating in the same direction ) .
That made me wonder if the result you got could be attributable to how a 'transformer' works, because I have only just learned that transformers can only work if the current is pulsed .
I don't know if I have recalled the details correctly .
And, when you described placing the brushes on different parts of the stator-ring, I think of the magnetic-field diagram showing the neutral-zone( used for magnetic-coupling ) of a normal ring-permanent-magnet , and then I try and imagine how the magnetic-field of that ring-magnet would change with your research , even though the stator-ring you use is an electromagnet .
One of the scientists who founded this work, apparently demonstrated a PM device at the public conference, 3 balls were put in a magnetic ring, and they rotated in different directions, but that sounds like the only fake story related to this work .
yes, this work is amazing, and the more I look into it the more I'm amazed, but I'm sticking to the small and simple stuff
they're not n/s on sides, they are north-south up-down
d3x0r , I have drawn the diagram as you said, it is below .
I assume that you are right, because that looks like what the magnetic-pole orientations would be for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiMQPeYJrQ , but, have you actually made it work using your own magnets ?
( Also below, is the only magnetic-pole orientations that I seem to have more luck with, even though I don't succeed )
Quote from: forumblog on September 08, 2015, 11:07:21 PM
d3x0r , I have drawn the diagram as you said, it is below .
I assume that you are right, because that looks like what the magnetic-pole orientations would be for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiMQPeYJrQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiMQPeYJrQ) , but, have you actually made it work using your own magnets ?
( Also below, is the only magnetic-pole orientations that I seem to have more luck with, even though I don't succeed )
well other than I noticed when he attached the magnet sideways it kinda flipped (but I was expecting that) so I know the poles are n/s veritcally...
I did try to grab a few magnets and try some things; but the ones I have are too large... so I can't get them on a nut effecitvely. and I don't have a convenient car for them...
The ones I have have too much lift... so would probably be better if the bottom one was aligned the opposite way as the car's magnet.. so that's the attracting one to pull it down; although it would probably do a wheely and still attached to the ones I have.
(mine are probably twice as large in all dimensions effecitvely 8x the size)
so like the top drawing on your last post I would think would work well.
Here is the reason that I am not totally sure if you are correct.
Below, is a diagram of how a ring-magnet attracts/repels a bar-magnet( cylinder-magnet ) which is in a transparent-plastic-tube which runs through the hole of the ring-magnet .
The bar-magnet( cylinder-magnet ) in the transparent-plastic-tube, remains at a specific-distance from the ring-magnet ( same effect as the toy-car ).
Look at the direction of the magnetic-poles of those magnets , they are almost the same as my diagram for the toy-car, the only difference is that in the diagram below the S pole of the bar-magnet is facing the N pole of the ring-magnet .
It looks like I won't find a final diagram( showing the magnetic poles ) for the 'Nikolayev trailer-hitch, as used in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdSSMoUT4g
TinselKoala QuoteThe key to success is using spacers properly between the sandwiched magnets.
But the video below, a novelty-toy version of the 'Nikolayev trailer-hitch' , shows a different method of doing this ( it's obvious that there's multiple ways to achieve this effect )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyvfDzRLsiU
It would be great if you could tell me if my diagram in my 'Reply #5' , is correct for the video below https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdSSMoUT4g
I assume you'll be too busy to reply ( so I won't bother pasting my earlier reply, where I suggested that maybe one of the 'surprising results you got' by using pulsed-current( instead of continuous current ) in a device related to this, may have been due to an 'electrical-transformer' effect )
Quote from: forumblog on September 10, 2015, 04:30:23 PM
It looks like I won't find a final diagram( showing the magnetic poles ) for the 'Nikolayev trailer-hitch, as used in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdSSMoUT4g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdSSMoUT4g)
TinselKoala
But the video below, a novelty-toy version of the 'Nikolayev trailer-hitch' , shows a different method of doing this ( it's obvious that there's multiple ways to achieve this effect )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyvfDzRLsiU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyvfDzRLsiU)
It would be great if you could tell me if my diagram in my 'Reply #5' , is correct for the video below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdSSMoUT4g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdSSMoUT4g)
No #5 is wrong but your diagram (http://overunity.com/16020/siberian-kolya-need-correct-diagram-showing-magnetic-poles/dlattach/attach/151602/) is correct.
5 would require remagnetising the magnets... and would not demonstrate any attraction properties.
Just like the 'novelty toy' video. Poles are vertical to the table.
You seem to be right
( the only thing that had made me question what have said, is the way that the magnetic-poles are demonstrated at the start of the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdSSMoUT4g , that toy-car does seem different to the other toy-car video , but, your answer could easily also be correct for this video )
( I accept you answer as being 100% correct for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiMQPeYJrQ and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyvfDzRLsiU )
- I am now finnished with this topic
By the way, another video by that novelty-toy maker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNRDvDIqD1M , I think that if you you used a much larger grid in that video, and then put a large-flat-magnet-sled on the grid, to levitate above the grid, that it would levitate successfully, and if you put side magnets to keep the sled from falling out of the grid, then it would break 'Earnshaw's Theorem'( 'Earnshaw's Theorem' states that magnetic levitation using only permanent-magnets, is impossible, and has never been done )
I don't want to waste any more time posting in this forum, it really is mostly a waste of time
Quote from: forumblog on September 10, 2015, 10:00:38 PM
I don't want to waste any more time posting in this forum, it really is mostly a waste of time
Then go.
... and next time you write a subject to a thread, get your spelling right if you want to attract the most useful attention.