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Title: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: Belfior on December 04, 2017, 03:06:43 AM
Scientists have found that graphene moves in Brownian motion and if it does this between 2 electrodes you get free power

http://www.iflscience.com/technology/graphene-loophole-could-provide-clean-and-limitless-energy-in-the-future/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrleMqm3HiU&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: TechStuf on December 04, 2017, 03:35:39 AM



Who hasn't feared this day would come?


The dreaded perpetual brownian movement!




Buddum bum.




(insert cymbal clash here)
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: blueplanet on December 04, 2017, 04:09:03 AM
Wonderful.
The day of free energy is numbered!
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 04, 2017, 05:41:10 AM
another bs lie

free energy is impossible

i wish all science liars locked up

Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 06, 2017, 12:05:56 PM
Quote from: isawit on December 04, 2017, 05:41:10 AM
another bs lie

free energy is impossible

i wish all science liars locked up


Looks like a good place to insert my favorite quote from
Maxwell Plank


"Truth never triumphs, its' enemies eventually die"


——————————————————————————-


It is a well known scientific phenomena, that all atoms "radiate" electromagnetic energy.
At specific frequencies.
This is the basis of Microwave technology.
The magnetron in your microwave oven is tuned to the
specific frequency of the water molecule (H2O)
Microwave weapons can be created to attack virtually any
Atom or molecule, or even large physical dimensions,
Simply as a function of wavelength or frequency.
This is done by changing the dimensional size of an oscillatory component
Found inside the magnetron. (See Microwave Physics)


Also known to us mere humans, is that when we excite these atoms or molecules,
The Amplitude of the frequency increases. (See laser physics)
Further, that certain isotopes inherently posses greater energies, and their amplitudes
are naturally high. Some so high it causes particle emissions and nucleic decay.
Their frequencies are slightly different than the base elements.
(See Nuclear Physics)
Also that we can initiate the reverse of this process by particle bombardment.
(See Particle Physics)


I ask that you now ignore the ignorant claim of single atomic layer membranes of graphemes.
Instead focus of one of the other key properties of graphemes.
When energy is increased, the crystalline structure incurrs a similar physical distortion to that of
piezoelectric crystals.
In addition, the natural frequency oscillations increase in amplitude, as a function of applied power
(current x voltage)


As the physical thickness of the layer approaches the wavelength of the atom,
The physical distortion approaches a maximum amplitude.
But it occurs to lesser degrees in ANY thickness of graphene.
There is one condition: that the surface layer of the graphene (not the electrodes) is planed to within
a variance of the atomic radii. (Carbon) (See resonant frequency of hexagon)


The frequency of graphene has a wavelength of about 3.5 plank lengths,
as a function of the crystalline structure.


Even number layers exhibit the "Hall Effect" due to these oscillations.


When compounded with atoms and molecules of other frequencies,
graphene can be used in applications with a wide range of frequencies.


Also it is extremely conductive. Almost a room temperature superconductor.
(slightly more conducive than gold)


When the length and/or width of the layer approaches a multiple of 3.5 plank lengths
The physical distortions approach a maximum.


An electrical current (replenishing charge) is applied to the graphene layer,
Between two conductors, the charge is transferred by contact, through the oscillations.
When this happens, the crystalline structure increases in energy.
This in turn, increases the energy of the carbon atoms.


Because of the way the atoms share electrons with one another, there are quantum states
in which an electron occupies two atoms simultaneously.
When the graphene drops from a high-energy state to a low-energy state,
An electron is ejected as a result of this quantum duality.
(they are replenished by the environment or from the applied charge)


This oscillating current can be passed through an inductive transformer and a portion of this
can be fed back into the system to sustain the effects.


This is made possible by a collaborative set of equations given to us by Maxwell Plank, and
The all knowing, all powerful, ever-present, Albert Einstein. Who himself, was one of The Godfather's
of modern Thermodynamic Theory.


Thank you for your time. You may return to your previously scheduled Bible Thumping.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 06, 2017, 03:32:28 PM
It is a well known scientific phenomena, that all atoms "radiate" electromagnetic energy.
At specific frequencies.

how? what is vibrating? what mechanism? what is em energy? what frequency? what is photon?

word salad? description? story?

BS

maxwell lied. there is nothing, no transverse wave in space. what carries electric and magnetic fields?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 06, 2017, 03:43:29 PM
Because of the way the atoms share electrons with one another, there are quantum states
in which an electron occupies two atoms simultaneously.
When the graphene drops from a high-energy state to a low-energy state,
An electron is ejected as a result of this quantum duality.

bs word puzzle

how's atom formed? how 2 atoms share electron? why proton and electron don't stick together? what is quantum? what is quantum state? what is energy?

full of bs is your science
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: citfta on December 06, 2017, 04:58:55 PM
Quote from: isawit on December 06, 2017, 03:43:29 PM
Because of the way the atoms share electrons with one another, there are quantum states
in which an electron occupies two atoms simultaneously.
When the graphene drops from a high-energy state to a low-energy state,
An electron is ejected as a result of this quantum duality.

bs word puzzle

how's atom formed? how 2 atoms share electron? why proton and electron don't stick together? what is quantum? what is quantum state? what is energy?

full of bs is your science

Well, is-a-wit do you have any better explanation for how things work?  You sound like a ten year old babbling nonsense.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 06, 2017, 06:35:05 PM
debunk me anything?

what is energy?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 06, 2017, 07:20:30 PM
most science you learned are bs.

maxwell and einstein are both wrong on their theories.

light is not wave nor particle.


all my life, search the mechanisms for gravity, magnetism, light and atomic structure. would trade my life for any one. now i got it all, am i happy?

i thanked God. but still empty, life itself is still a mystery. best i can do is to share my finds.

to see the universe from an atom, give you logo pieces, you can build all kinds of toys.

gravity is simply induced electrical attraction force between neutrally charged masses/matters. similar to sexual attraction outside marriage.

the greatest 2 physics laws tell the secret already.

f=Ke x q1q2/rr and f=G x m1m2/rr both forces decay at 1/rr, must have same nature.


HOW ATOMS ARE FORMED

1 electron carries 1 negative charge

if we smash the electron into 1000000 equal pieces, each piece will carry 1/1000000 negative charge. Let's call it enertron.

since enertrons carry the same negative charge, they repel each other.

if we have a perfect bottle, which means no leakage, no react, like glass bottle to air.

we put 1000000 enertrons into the perfect bottle, since enertrons repel each other, they put a pressure on the bottle wall. let's measure and call that pressure 1 volt.

if we put 8000000 enertrons into the same bottle, the pressure on the wall should be 4 volts.

now if 1 enertron is moving or vibrating, the rest all enertrons will be energized.

that is the mechanism of light/quantum.


now if we put 1 positive charge into the perfect bottle, what will happen?

enertrons should be attracted by the positive charge and form a ball around it, the closer to the positive charge the denser enertron cloud. the density of the enertron is decay at 1/rrr due to the repulsion force between enertrons decay at 1/rr.

now image enertron is the real thing, it carries a tiny negative charge, something like 1/10^33 electron charge, but it has a stronger force field, similar to neodymium magnet compare with iron magnet.

image proton actually carries 918 positive charges, it attracted 917 total charges of enertrons formed a solid ball, 1 electron attached to the ball to form a neutrally charged hydrogen atom. 1 atomic weight equals to 1936 total charges, no matter positive or negative charges.

this is the realistic atomic structure. the electrons are constantly vibrating on the plane at 90 degrees to the atom radius due to the kinetic energy it carries.

atoms are solid balls, matter is not compressible.

if atoms are constructed as science told you, 99.99% empty space, why matter is not compressible? electron shell/wave/cloud/orbital are negatively charged, they do not stick to positive changed nuclear is a magic, how can they stand any force/impact/reaction without crashing?

why is energy conserved?

if you put a moving force on any electrons with a force, that force is spreading to all the lines of sight electrons instantly by the repulsion force between them f=Kexee/rr, they all are moving now, and cannot stop ever.

do we have a perfect bottle?

yes, every atom is a perfect bottle. all matters are a perfect bottle. energy has nowhere to go but bounce within and between matters.

the forces f=Ke x e1e2/rr and f=G x m1m2/rr are like perfect springs between/within matters, connected all matters in 1.


MAGNETISM

2 parallel wires at r distance, the free electrons in the 2 wires repel each other with force f=Ke x q1q2/rr, that force is the carrier of energy/moving electric force/emf. that force act as a class 1 lever with the fulcrum at the center, the mechanical advantage is equal to 1.

if electrons move in wire 1, electrons in wire 2 will instantly have opposite direction emf. the true mechanism of electromagnetic induction. same as momentum conservation.

every magnetic atom/magton contains 2 atoms. 2 atoms of a ferromagnetic matter before magnetize, we put it as 00. if 1 electron moved from 1 atom to the other atom and stays there as -11, the 2 atoms become a magton, it carries a special property now, we call it magnetic force.

-11, -22, -33...-nn are all magton, but carry different magnetic force strength.

2 magtons attract each other in the direction -11><-11, and repel each other in the direction -11<>1-1 or 1-1<>-11.

use copper wire winding around an iron core, put a current, the electrons in the wire move in circles around the core, make atoms in the core arrange into -11-11 directions all the way. on the pole plane area, magtons are arranged as clockwise concentric circles of -11-11 directions, north pole.

reverse the current direction, the pole plane area magtons are arranged as counterclockwise concentric circles of -11-11 directions, south pole.

so, a magnet north pole stored clockwise electric force, south pole stored the counterclockwise electric force. the same poles always repel, different poles always attract.

the earth magnetic field is a mistake. there is no field but the force in the universe. sunlight moves electrons moving westward causing earth magnetic force interact with compasses.

there is only 1 force exists, coulomb force f=Ke x q1q2/rr. gravity and magnetic force are both different configurations of electric force.

without matters, there is no force. a single matter has no force. force can only exist between matters.

without a test body, where is the electric or magnetic field? where is gravity field?

the mysteries of the universe are within 2 equations.

f=Ke x e1e1/rr and f=G x m1m2/rr.

those 2 forces rule everything existing.

the mechanism of quantum entanglement is simple. the force between any 2 charged particles f=Ke x qp/rr is the carrier of energy/information/moving electric force. it is an invisible physical rod with zero mass that always connected 2 particles as 1. if 1 particle is energized, that energy instantly transferred to another. from f=ma, m=0, so energy instantly moved from 1 particle to another. we call it QE


enjoy it, question me or see more at fuckedscience.com
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 06, 2017, 07:35:47 PM
Quote from: isawit on December 06, 2017, 03:43:29 PM
Because of the way the atoms share electrons with one another, there are quantum states
in which an electron occupies two atoms simultaneously.
When the graphene drops from a high-energy state to a low-energy state,
An electron is ejected as a result of this quantum duality.

bs word puzzle

how's atom formed? how 2 atoms share electron? why proton and electron don't stick together? what is quantum? what is quantum state? what is energy?

full of bs is your science


Umm ok... I will attempt to baby step you through some of your questions.
Some I will not answer directly, because the questions themselves are of
nomenclature not of science......


1) How are atoms formed?
This process takes place in empty space, where-in cosmic radiation perturbes
an area of spacetime, resulting in spontaneous particle creation of the primary nucleic
structure (hydrogen) and its' opposite (antihydrogen)
We call these structures a proton and an antiproton.
most of these pairs collide and destroy each other, releasing some of the radiation back
into space. Every now and then, they go in different directions, thus matter is formed.
The exact details of this process are complex, and involve many sub-particle
predecessors, and the nuclear physics of galactic formation.
Hydrogen is the major constituent of young stars.
More complex atoms and molecules are formed by nuclear reactions in the stars.
Stars emanate atomic and molecular dust, with travel to earth as dust and meteors.
To explain this in comprehensive detail would take up a lot of pages and isn't the subject
of this topic. So if you would like to learn more about physical matter is formed, I would
refer you to your local library or a college curriculum.


2) How do atoms and molecules share electrons?
The most simple form of this takes place in an ionic bond.
This is when one atom has an unpaired electron in its outer shell, and another has a deficit.
This results in a negative and positive atomic charge, respectively.
When these ions bond, they form an electrically neutral crystalline structure,
by sharing the electron of the negative atom.
Simply put, during a portion of its' orbit, the electron travels partially around the nucleus
of the positive atom, both neutralizing its' charge and 'tying' it to the positive atom.
Table Salt is one example of this, being an ionic bond between sodium and chlorine.
Since sodium has one valence electron, and chlorine has -11, when 8 sodium ions arrange around
a chlorine anion, all 8 electrons are shared, and 3 of these exist in a state of 'duality'. Meaning one
electron from each of the 3 atoms can be found in two locations of the outer shell of the anion.
This happens due to the geometry of the octahedron. At plank distances, the orbital path crosses in
two points. We find that at any given time, 3 of the electrons can be found in two places at once.
The probability of where they will be, is defined by one of the quantum equations.
A similar 'handshake' takes place with Carbon.
Carbon is a -4 (carbon is -2.55 on the modern Pauling Scale, but that's too much to explain)
Now, here's where ions and anions get tricky.
At the middle-point of a valence shell, you could view the glass as half full, or half empty.
We could also say that it's not ionic, but if that were the case, you and I would not exist.
As with other atoms and molecules with an exactly half-full shell, carbon exhibits properties of
electronegativity and electropositivity. We label it electronegative because, by relative comparison
to most other substances, carbon is negative. However, with respect to a more negative ion, such as
Aluminium, carbon is electropositive.
So how are electrons shared between 2 carbons?
In chemistry this is called a 'double bond', because there are two electrons from each atom that
are shared. In quantum atomic physics this is a 'quantum double bond' because two electrons
from each exist in a state of duality. Two from each gives us the 4 that are missing.
This is different from the ionic bond, if you did not notice.
There are no "paired" electron bonds.
Each atom has its 4 electrons.
But two of them are in a dual-state. Meaning they can be found in two places at once.
Twice, per orbit. Two points around each atom.
Since our bonds are entirely quantum, (there's that damn word again) the electron orbits are
completely circular (pi). This is one of the criteria of diamagnetism, so (in theory) C2 should
be diamagnetic. Since all fount of the shared electrons (two from each carbon atom) are found
in two places, around each atom (a 2-d circle is formed on a single plane in physical terms),
the condition of a full orbital is satisfied. Meaning it is a stable molecular formation,
Because it is a pi orbital, with a single vector, the only major factor contributing to a change in
orbital path is the charge vector. Which is 90-degrees from the orbital path, on a 360-degree plane.
it spirals around until disturbed by an outside force.
For instance, if you approach the molecule with a magnetic field, the field caused by the orbitals'
magnetic moment will orient 180-degrees to the magnetic. Meaning it will try to fight the force by
facing a like pole towards it. Anything else would slow down or eject the electrons, it is the natural way
electrons behave in stable pi orbitals. But because the magnetic moment is 90-degrees to the vector of
the charge, it not only changes the vector, but generates an electric charge in response to the changing
magnetic field, strengthening the magnetic moment, this is why these types of atoms are 'diamagnetic'.


Let's look at C3: three carbon atoms creating a stable construct.
This does Not have a pi orbital. It is an elongated ellipse.
three electrons are shared from one atom and one from the other.
Which one, depends on several variables. But we'll say one is oriented such that the electric effects
grab onto 3, leaving only enough charge to grab one from the other atom.
The central atom being the decider, or you could say one of the end atoms was in an excited state
and dictated the rest to fall in line. However you look at it, they form a 2-d line. Because one end is
negative electrically, the carbon in the center is neutral, and the other end is positive electrically.
And the direction of the electron charge(s) changes 180-degrees per half-orbit.
This causes the magnetic moment (90-degrees to the orbital) to take on a quadrupolar magnetic field.
With both a north and South Pole on each face, that alternates rapidly.
This construct can only exist in a 2-d structure. So it forms a chain-type molecule, which is both
magnetically and electrically active. This is the base molecule that spontaneously forms into organic
enzymes, and is the basic step in enzymatic and genetic molecular self-replication.
And the basis of all carbon-based life. (Sulphur-based and other forms of life are more complex)
The electrons in c3 are not found to exist in a quantum state.


Ok, now C4:
C4 is similar to c2, but there's a bond between the two c2's.
Each pair takes on its own dipole magnetic moment.
Much like in c2, two electrons from each are shared, in a q-state.
However, the center two atoms share in opposing electrical states
(180-degrees out of phase) and thus cancel out half of the charge of
The three pair-bonds. This gives the molecular formation a -1:+2:-1
electric charge, with an alternating charge vector. Also forming a chain
2-d structure, and magnetic quadrupole. C4 is also an electrically and
magnetically reactive (enzyme bonding) molecule. It's orbital path
resembles an infinity symbol, or a twisted ellipse. One pair of bonded
atoms assumes dominance over changes in charge vector as a result of
external changes in electric or magnetic fields.
We note here that these are two distinct types of bonds.
There is a nucleic (strong) bond between the two carbon atoms in each
pair, as well as an ionic (weak/electric) bond between the two pairs.


Also, (unrelated) linear carbon chains move like snakes, or more
accurately like a sine wave with a specific frequency.


C5:
C5 can take on a linear (enzymatic) structure, but can also take on
3-dimensional forms. Either trigonal (3-sided pyramid), bi-pyramidal,
or cyclical shape (personally i argue that this would be hexagonal).
But since all 5 points on the hexagon fall on a circle, it might be a mute
point....   
Looking at the 2-d hexagon, we find that two electrons are shared by each
in a circular format, but that one exists in a quantum dual-state.
(meaning it can be found in two points of the orbital at one time)
Or it could be said that two are shared but the 'duality' of one is canceled by
the opposite state of one from the next atom around the hexagon.
The result is that each has a net positive charge of +2. Meaning that only 6 of
it's outer shell (holes) are filled by electrons at any one time.
4 of its own + 1 from each adjacent atom existing both in their neighboring atoms
and simultaneously in their own orbit, at any one time.
We note here that the duality only occurs in one atom. (meaning the electron does not
appear twice in its own atom, but rather in two points in the molecular chain, unlike c2
and c4)


Now finally this brings us to c6. The foundational construct of fullerene buckeyballs and
monoatomic graphene layering. (and graphene in general).
C6 shares 3 electrons, one with each of its neighbors (two for single crystals) and a 4th
electron exists in a state of q-duality (existing in its own orbit and one of its neighbors
simultaneously, each atom in consecutive order).
The q-state electron has a perpendicular charge vector, resulting in an orbital path along
the plane of the magnetic moment, not the orbital plane of the singular-state electrons.


This ends my introduction to Astro-biology, because to take you further I have to
educate you in at least 6 other fields of science.


3) why do protons not attach to electrons?
This is defined by their velocity and centrifugal force.
For the same reasons the moon doesn't fall to earth, and we are not sucked into the sun.
But they DO under the right conditions: if their velocity or energy are high enough.
They combine and form a Neutron. This happens in stars, and particle accelerators.
(and certain nuclear reactions).


4) what is quantum?
Originally this term was coined my Maxwell Plank (there's that guy again)
To describe a packet of light (photon) which he called light quanta.
It was later assigned to quantum physics, which is the science of things that don't fit
into classical mechanics. I.e. it means the stuff we don't know. And this is defined as
a probability or fraction of a large number of events, and the times the things we don't know
about happen to our experiments and alter the results.
Since we can't define these things, they are defined by the fractions that represent them.
And in this manner, Quantum Mechanics is able to identify and isolate these unknown events,
so that we can study them further and gain more information about them.
One of these unknowns (or quanta) is the dual-states of particles.
Also known as the cats of schrodinger.
We don't currently have a valid explanation for why a particle can be in two states at once,
even less is known about why they are in two places at once.
We simply label it as a quantum-state, defined by the probability of the particle to be found
at any two points applied to its' state.
(My theory is that there are discrete goings on that cause quantum events, but that our
physics has not reached that level of advancement yet)
I could describe a few scenarios that could explain some of the quantum unknowns, but
that would just be me guessing at things unknown.


5) what is a quantum state?
This is loosely defined as a probability for a particle to exist in a state of unknowns.
Most of these scenarios are hinges on the fact that trying to observe what is unknown,
will alter the results. And the probabilistic equations break down.
Since knowing will change things, we define the situation in terms of the fractions.
As it applies to particle duality, 'quantum state' refers to the unknown condition of the
particle, when it is found it more than one state or  sometimes location.
More specifically it is defining by the probability division equations that tell us how often
to expect such an event to occur.




6) what is energy?
If you find an answer to that, let me know......
We loosely define energy in terms of the forms (we know about) that it takes on.
These are:   Heat, Physical motion (and vibration which is sound) (and by proxy: mass and
gravity), Light, and electromagnetic radiation, electricity, chemical energy, nucleic energy,
And we tie these all together by comparison to form a standard of measurement which we can
relate to a numerical value we call Joules.
Then we can infer all sorts of relationships such as mc2 or planks length and frequency, etc.
But as far as "what energy is", essentially, it is everything. Or the intangible description of
everything in numerical format.
One could argue that "energy" is not a thing, but rather a measurement of things.
Like a foot, or a pound.
What is energy? What is distance? What is weight?
numbers.....


Science is what makes computers possible. If you don't believe in science or in learning,
My best advice is to turn off your computer, and try to access the internet
Through meditation and prayer.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 06, 2017, 11:52:09 PM
total bs

how 1 electron and 1 proton able to form a stable hydrogen atom?

what force between them? why they do not stick together?

what is energy? how electrons carry energy? transfer energy?

how electrons change energy level and emit photon? what mechanism?

no word salad, put up mechanism and explanation.

Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 12:00:22 AM
bs scientists best definition of energy is the capacity to do work. stupid word puzzle.

energy is emf matter carried. simple as that.

energy can only coexist with matter. there is no light/energy/quanta in vacuum space.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 12:04:11 AM
i love applied science. it improves life.

i hate theoretical science, after newton, all bs.

maxwell, plank, einstein theories are all mistakes.

e=mcc is bs. do you understand? i don't think so.

you believe you are evolved from ape. am i correct?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 01:21:45 AM
those monkeys teach physics at cambridge, check out their monkey math.

if you can't spot a simple math lie, how can you spot lies in science?

you can only believe anything they told you, including your ggggrandpa were monkeys.

do you understand?    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 02:00:19 AM
maxwell is top science guy. his em theory is bs.

there is no electric field moving in space at light speed and self producing a magnetic field at 90 degrees to form a transverse wave.

that carries those force fields? photon? how?

einstein theories are all bs. gravity cannot curve space, cannot dilate time. space and time have no mass, gravity only act on mass.

all atomic structure theories, standard or bohr model, are total bs.

the attraction force between opposite charges is the strongest force in the universe, there is no possibility that electrons able to circle/wave/cloud around the protons, to form stable atom.

all science based on that model is false.

we can hardly separate two strong magnets, how nature makes electrons not stick to protons all the times?

what is uncertainty principle? it is certain that there is only attraction force between opposite charged particles in every atom. it is uncertain how the fuck they don't stick together at all the times.

wave-particle duality? how electrons wave? what's the cause?

all things must have precise mechanism.

remember God doesn't play dice?

the forces between charged particles rule the universe.

the force between electrons f=Ke x ee/rr is the carrier of all em phenomena. current, light, em wave, magnetizing, induction, radiation, fiction, photoelectric effect, photosynthesis and more.

all mechanic work is also that force at work.

if you push a thing, the electrons on your skin are pushing the electrons on that thing.

no one, no thing, can make 2 electrons stick together. the repulsion force is very very strong.

what force can separate electron and proton? aren't they attract each other?

qm my ass, less than a fart. ENERGY IS ELECTROMOTIVE FORCE carried by moving matter/charge. energy can only coexist with matter.

what is dark matter? what is dark energy? those dark scientists are from a dark age. GO TO GO!
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 02:31:41 AM
the most famous equation e=mcc is BS

mass is condensed charged particles. energy is emf matter carried. totally different, cannot equivalent.

a 1 kg gold bar at rest has no energy but thermal energy, for it to 1kgcc energy, it must move at 1.414 c speed. how fast can we move a bullet?

nuclear energy? 1 kg best fuel, how many % of it can produce heat?

the most famous experiment double slit is BS

light is not wave nor particle, but electron's vibration force. put double slit experiment in a vacuum chamber, wave property will disappear.

have you doubt any scientific theories? debunked any? disproved any?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: citfta on December 07, 2017, 08:30:10 AM
You sure do a lot of debunking with nothing to back up your claims.  You have not shown one single actual fact to prove any of your wild ideas.

I do agree with you on one thing and I have an actual fact to back it up.  The theory of evolution is nothing but the biggest lie ever presented to the human race.  There are hundreds of real facts that have been firmly established by science that prove evolution is impossible.  A minimum of time spent in research will prove this.

One very interesting fact I found was that a very famous atheist mathematician in England set out to prove that evolution was possible by calculating the odds of probability that evolution could have happened.  I have forgotten his name.  He spent over a year collecting data about all the things that would have to happen just right for evolution to be possible.  Then he started calculating.  After he was done he came to the conclusion that evolution was mathematically impossible.  There were just too many things that had to happen exactly right for life to have accidentally started.  And even more important there was no known mechanism that would account for the change from one species to a higher level by chance or time.  In fact all the evidence pointed to any changes being to the detriment of a species not a gain.

As he put it, after all that, he came to this way of explaining it.  The odds were so great against evolution he said it was more likely that a tornado going through a junk yard would randomly pick up pieces of junk and cram them together to make a fully functioning 747 aircraft.

If you want to debunk modern science with your wild claims you should at least give some evidence for your opinion instead of just your illogical rambling.  No one is going to take you seriously for a bunch of wild claims with nothing to back them up.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 07, 2017, 10:21:52 AM
@carroll


I have no grounds to argue theology. As I have not seen any
evidence of this. What IS evident, after 3 decades of studying history
and mythology/religion, is that much of what we don't understand,
wether technological or cultural, we describe in terms of what we know
at the time. (From the perspective of the person writing it down)
And what is clear to me, is that humans have been playing this game
of teaching and losing knowledge for a very very long time.
Our "Gods" are humans, with a greater scope of knowledge and perspective
than the societies they teach. And those societies write about the 'magical'
things they are taught by these "gods".


As far as the theory of evolution, I suppose that depends on how it is
interpreted. Without a thorough understanding of the interactions between
the carbon chains I mentioned above, and the other organic chains that
coalesce to form rna and dna, "evolution" sounds exactly like any other
mythology.


In reality, whatever "cause" you attribute to the ever-changing code of life forms.
Wether it be a mythical deity, or simple the natural response of the elements to
frequencies (internal and external) that pass through them.
What we call "evolution", (referring to the process, not the myth theories)
Is our best attempt to describe the actions and interactions of these carbon-chain
molecules, and how they form the life that we know of.
(the life we don't know of may make use of completely different processes)


I'm not saying we came from monkeys, or that monkeys came from us.
But whatever caused US and monkeys, was from the same processes we
observe with every life form we know of.
Even the complex sulphur-based creatures that live deep in the earth, evolve
their genetic code every generation, like everything else we have found to be "alive".


That being said, I could argue that every atom and molecule is "alive" to some degree.
Carbon being the dominant life force that we are made of.
The only "theological" question I have is: is our consciousness a manifestation of our
complex brain chemistry? Or are we simply the conscious manifestation of a single
(Dominant) carbon atom? expressing itself through the molecular chain of elements?


in either case, all life is a discrete chemical process. The elements only bond in certain ways.
Some of those ways result in 'living' molecules (enzymes), that form into cellular structures.
They respond to their environment by passing signals into and out of the chains. Starlight
(or stellar radiation) is one of the major driving forces, but also is the direct environment.
As far as: was it natural or god made, or in which order the animals came to be... we may never have
more knowledge than our best guesstimate with the little data we have available.








@isaw it


If you don't believe in EM theory, please explain how you think your computer is able to
create the image of your messages and send them to the world on this website?
Or perform the complex mathematics required to even run your operating system,
store data in digital format.... all of our electronics were invented by EM theory.
If it were not true (at least in part), none of our stuff would work. We'd just have a
bunch of funny looking paperweights.


There would be no radio, no lightbulb, none of our recording equipment would function....
The television, lasers,.... I could go on.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 07, 2017, 10:25:06 AM
This is how societies lose their knowledge. Kids refuse to learn the foundational
information left by their parents generation, and everything we know gets
tossed into obscurity. Now we have people that think EM theory is a myth,
and that the earth is flat.....


I guess we can just burn down the libraries, destroy the internet
And start all over again.....
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 07, 2017, 10:32:17 AM
In the meantime, let's enjoy the fuel-less graphene battery
That our science has created.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: citfta on December 07, 2017, 10:54:04 AM
Hi smoky2,

I hope you didn't think my comments were directed to you.  I of course was referring to isawit whose arguments seem to have no basis in fact.  I agree with you that without our modern science we would have none of the many many things we enjoy.  Our modern theories of electronics and atomic structure may not be totally correct but they have served us well in developing the many aspects of our modern world.  One statement isawit made that really seems ridiculous to me was where he posted that he only believes in applied science and not theoretical science.  HUH?  How can you possibly have applied science if you didn't first have theoretical science.  That statement doesn't make any sense at all.

As far as the theory of evolution goes, I have studied it for many years and it is a total fabrication of lies.  Even Darwin who is called the father of evolution admitted he saw many flaws in the theory.  No one mentions that, but he did say it.  And he really is not the father of evolution.  The idea was actually presented long before him.

Oh well I have derailed this thread long enough.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 10:59:57 AM
i pointed so many science lies, why don't you debunk any of them?

put up wall of word salad is useless.

em theory? what carries em wave in space?

what is energy? what is energy level? what is uncertain?

full of shit!
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 11:06:25 AM
Quote from: isawit on December 06, 2017, 11:52:09 PM
total bs

how 1 electron and 1 proton able to form a stable hydrogen atom?

what force between them? why they do not stick together?

what is energy? how electrons carry energy? transfer energy?

how electrons change energy level and emit photon? what mechanism?

no word salad, put up mechanism and explanation.

put up or stfu
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 11:11:55 AM
Quote from: isawit on December 07, 2017, 01:21:45 AM
those monkeys teach physics at cambridge, check out their monkey math.

if you can't spot a simple math lie, how can you spot lies in science?

you can only believe anything they told you, including your ggggrandpa were monkeys.

do you understand?    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww

do you know their simple math mistakes?

can you point it out?

if not, how can you understand any science theories?

all you do is read and believe, copy and paste. correct?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 12:05:04 PM
don't blame me. you forgot to question.

you learned everything from school and media

maybe it is too late to change now

but think for your kids

don't let them grow up just like you
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 12:18:30 PM
no wonder all top scientists believe they are evolved from apes
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 12:23:50 PM
did they push you to believe so?

why did you let them?

not smart?

Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 12:25:46 PM
smart, but weak minded?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 07, 2017, 02:49:11 PM

@isawit

There are plenty of threads devoted to alternative theories
you should go contaminate those instead of adding useless
arguments here.


This thread is about the potential applications of graphene,
and its' use as a natural oscillator.


The fact that you do not accept modern theory, is not the
topic of this conversation.
You can take my attempt at explaining this for what it is.
Or don't......


Your mindless rants and objections serve no purpose here.
No one is deterred by your nonsense.
People will make their graphene batteries with or without
your consent.

Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 07, 2017, 02:53:24 PM
Here is another perspective, analyzing the process via potential energy
measurements.
http://https://resonance.is/graphene-contain-unlimited-clean-energy-source/ (http://https://resonance.is/graphene-contain-unlimited-clean-energy-source/)
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: Belfior on December 07, 2017, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 07, 2017, 02:53:24 PM
Here is another perspective, analyzing the process via potential energy
measurements.
http://https://resonance.is/graphene-contain-unlimited-clean-energy-source/ (http://https://resonance.is/graphene-contain-unlimited-clean-energy-source/)

working link

https://resonance.is/graphene-contain-unlimited-clean-energy-source/
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 03:01:29 PM
this thread title is a lie

nothing provides limitless free energy

no free energy exists

the only way to debunk me is to show the fact, mechanism, working model.

let's see it?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 03:07:42 PM
Quote from: Belfior on December 07, 2017, 02:56:42 PM
working link

https://resonance.is/graphene-contain-unlimited-clean-energy-source/
[/quote

Graphene could contain an unlimited "clean" energy source


that title says could. you know what's that mean?

as i said, besides read and believe, copy and paste, what else do you know?

questioned any scientific theories? find any mistakes? nope, everything you learned is good, correct.

how come no one answer any of my science questions? debunk me with any science facts?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: Belfior on December 07, 2017, 04:08:27 PM
Quote from: isawit on December 07, 2017, 03:01:29 PM
this thread title is a lie

nothing provides limitless free energy

no free energy exists

the only way to debunk me is to show the fact, mechanism, working model.

let's see it?

You make big claims, but I don't see you providing any proof of the contrary. I don't count Jesus and Bible as proof. I don't believe any man made laws a perfect. In Nature there are no laws. There are just different situations. I haven't yet found a closed system.


They have shown the method. What makes that a lie? Why would there not be free energy? Why is the no limitless free energy? What in Nature says that there is no free energy? I can't find any reason. Is this about semantics? Yes of course you cannot get infinite energy from graphene, but if you can take for example 1V every second for 25 years that is limitless in this scope.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 05:05:30 PM
what do you think is energy?

did i proved maxwell and elinstein are both wrong?

what carries transverse em waves in space? how gravity curves space?

what is free energy? how graphene provides limitless energy? demo? explanation? mechanism? drawing?

answer questions, no more word salad, please.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: isawit on December 07, 2017, 11:11:55 AM
do you know their simple math mistakes?

can you point it out?

if not, how can you understand any science theories?

all you do is read and believe, copy and paste. correct?

can you debunk me?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: citfta on December 07, 2017, 05:44:43 PM
isawit,

You have posted 22 posts in this thread and not one of them makes any sense.  You keep asking for someone to debunk you but all you have posted is nonsense with nothing to back up your silly claims.  If you really think you have something to offer then start your own thread and present some evidence to support your claims.  Otherwise you are just another big mouth with no substance.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: Belfior on December 07, 2017, 05:48:55 PM
Quote from: isawit on December 07, 2017, 05:05:30 PM

what do you think is energy?

did i proved maxwell and elinstein are both wrong?

what carries transverse em waves in space? how gravity curves space?

what is free energy? how graphene provides limitless energy? demo? explanation? mechanism? drawing?

answer questions, no more word salad, please.

You seem to be the one copy pasting and copy pasting your own stuff and making salads. I have not seen any proof given by you in this thread. Just allegations. I think you might need some medication.

If you would follow the link provided you could see the method, drawing and proof.

You are ranting. Crazy people rant. The just say the same thing over and over. You listen to nothing, because you think you are 100% correct. Do you know who think they are 100% correct? Crazy people.

Where is your proof? Drawing? Method?

You could start by just answering your own questions that you provided.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: Belfior on December 07, 2017, 06:14:43 PM
Quote from: citfta on December 07, 2017, 05:44:43 PM
isawit,

You have posted 22 posts in this thread and not one of them makes any sense.  You keep asking for someone to debunk you but all you have posted is nonsense with nothing to back up your silly claims.  If you really think you have something to offer then start your own thread and present some evidence to support your claims.  Otherwise you are just another big mouth with no substance.

Posting random shit that is not the thread topic and asking people to debunk it is just classic ExxonMobil trolling. Every second taken from free energy research is a small victory to him
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 06:27:26 PM
answer my question would be more more professional.

tired of word salad
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 07, 2017, 06:38:07 PM
Here is a self-powered Robot.
Made from graphene.
Changes in moisture (absorbed from the environment)
cause the material to deform. This deformation
actuates leg movement, causing the robot to walk.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2017-06-moisture-responsive-robots-external-power-source.amp (http://https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2017-06-moisture-responsive-robots-external-power-source.amp)


And these next group of researchers have discovered that when salt water is allowed to run across
a sheet of graphene, it generates a voltage potential.
Making self-powered cappillary-action nano-generators a possibility.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/science/2014/04/flowing-salt-water-over-graphene-generates-electricity/%3famp=1 (http://https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/science/2014/04/flowing-salt-water-over-graphene-generates-electricity/%3famp=1)
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 07, 2017, 06:38:07 PM
Here is a self-powered Robot.
Made from graphene.
Changes in moisture (absorbed from the environment)
cause the material to deform. This deformation
actuates leg movement, causing the robot to walk.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2017-06-moisture-responsive-robots-external-power-source.amp (http://https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2017-06-moisture-responsive-robots-external-power-source.amp)


And these next group of researchers have discovered that when salt water is allowed to run across
a sheet of graphene, it generates a voltage potential.
Making self-powered cappillary-action nano-generators a possibility.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/science/2014/04/flowing-salt-water-over-graphene-generates-electricity/%3famp=1 (http://https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/science/2014/04/flowing-salt-water-over-graphene-generates-electricity/%3famp=1)

that's tiny ambient energy, not free, not limitless.  use less. bs.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 06:49:19 PM
quote this, copy that, understand the mechanism?

anything original?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 07, 2017, 06:54:18 PM
Self-powered watches, robots that move without a power source,
nano-generators for self-powered remote applications.


Your understanding of "uselessness" is about as deep as your
understanding of science.
You are wasting your time trying to refute graphene technology.
It is the new 'silicone', graphene is about to invade all of our society.
Get used to it.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 07:04:04 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 07, 2017, 06:54:18 PM
Self-powered watches, robots that move without a power source,
nano-generators for self-powered remote applications.


Your understanding of "uselessness" is about as deep as your
understanding of science.
You are wasting your time trying to refute graphene technology.
It is the new 'silicone', graphene is about to invade all of our society.
Get used to it.

bs. self powered watch? without user movement?

quit playing word games, it is another science bobble. limitless free energy is forever bs.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: citfta on December 07, 2017, 07:30:07 PM
"isawit" is a perfect example of limitless forever bs.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 08:07:37 PM
Quote from: citfta on December 07, 2017, 07:30:07 PM
"isawit" is a perfect example of limitless forever bs.

your best shot?

what is energy?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 08:15:22 PM
nasa faked moon landing, some shadows are right under the object, means they made the video at noon time, which is not morning time as they said/should.

nasa, china, japan all fake news about solar sails work in space, photons able to transfer momentum to solar sail to accelerate spaceship.

they lied right in front your eyes.

if light/photon has momentum, why is laser beam cannot bend a flame? why is light mill not moving in a hard vacuum?

all space missions are fake, cuz they faked the time delay for space radio transmission.

light/em waves travel in vacuum space at an infinite speed, only within mediums at a limited speed.

so any communication takes more than 1/100 second is faked.

all scientists think light speed is c in the vacuum, they all wrong.

if light speed is limited in vacuum space, all stars, galaxies we see are from the past, how we map the universe and measure the total mass?

it is all bs, all lies.

there is no solar wind. what mechanism? why protons and electrons on the way to earth do not attract each other and form into hydrogen atoms? why does gravity not pull them back into the sun?

van allan belts? what's mechanism? the sun's energy/radiation/light strength decay at 1/rr, the only way to find stronger radiation is to get closer.

near around earth, radiation strength is the same, within the atmosphere, it decreases.

so between earth and the moon, the radiation strength is about the same, less within our atmosphere.

em drive? powered by quantum vacuum virtual plasma. it is voodoo science.

ligo detected gravity wave from 1.3 billion years ago? you wave hand will produce more detectable gravity wave than far away stars explode. why can't ligo detect cme or earthquake?

gravity wave speed is infinite, gravity has to be instantaneous, otherwise, no planets can stay in orbit.


DEBUNK ME?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 07, 2017, 08:43:07 PM
Your lack of comprehension debunks itself.
You propose nothing of value to 'debunk'.

Please stop cluttering this thread with unrelated garble.


If you don't have anything useful to add to your argument
Why are you wasting everyone's time?


Nothing you have said can be applied to the advancement of graphene technology.
What are your intentions for proposing such arguments?
You dismiss all answers to your questions, and refute them without evidence.
Meanwhile, the researchers investigating this technology are making huge successes
despite your negative rhetoric.


What is the point of what you are doing?
Are you simply making a feeble and failed attemp to derail this research?
To what end?
Seems pointless to me.


Instead, you should acquire a sheet of graphene and experiment for yourself.
Because that is the only way you will gain knowledge, when you refuse the knowledge
previously gained by others.

Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 07, 2017, 08:50:08 PM
I'm not even going to humor the notion that millions of physicists have spent their
entire life's work conspiring to lie to you.


That line of thinking is indicative of a specific neural disorder.
Have you tried lithium? It may help you.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 09:40:50 PM
Quote from: isawit on December 07, 2017, 08:07:37 PM
your best shot?

what is energy?

no more word salad please.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 07, 2017, 11:13:53 PM
Quote from: isawit on December 07, 2017, 01:21:45 AM
those monkeys teach physics at cambridge, check out their monkey math.

if you can't spot a simple math lie, how can you spot lies in science?

you can only believe anything they told you, including your ggggrandpa were monkeys.

do you understand?    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww

do you understand? yes or no?

why can't you answer a simple question?

retarded monkey?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 08, 2017, 04:19:10 AM
The 6-sided polygonal structure of graphene
Is the 3rd carbon nano-structure to exhibit
Self-induced motion observable on the macro scale
Carbon can be used to produce free energy.


What other elements can be used in this manner?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 08, 2017, 04:31:41 AM
what else info/knowledge can you copy and paste?

anything original? understand anything?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 08, 2017, 04:35:39 AM
Carbon can be used to produce free energy.

how? what is energy?

fart again?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: Belfior on December 08, 2017, 04:37:40 AM
moderator please ban this bot
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 08, 2017, 04:44:12 AM
that's low blow
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 08, 2017, 04:48:36 AM
What is ISawIt?
Can you explain how ISawIt works?
ISawIt is a lie.


Debunk me
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 08, 2017, 04:57:24 AM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 08, 2017, 04:48:36 AM
What is ISawIt?
Can you explain how ISawIt works?
ISawIt is a lie.


Debunk me

i saw science mistakes/lies  i found better answers  i share my finds    i don't lie.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 08, 2017, 01:54:57 PM
Well then please share your solution to the free energy created by stimulated graphene layers.
My understanding was laid out above in a comprehensive analysis of quantum-covelent bonds.
Which is the foundation of life.
Not just our carbon-based life, but all life.


If you want to "see" this type of thing, take a look at my video in the next post.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 08, 2017, 02:02:02 PM
these "creatures" are not amoeba, in fact they are not 'alive' at all.
these are inanimate nanocarbons.
forming into carbon trichloride in solution

groups of these molecules are forming into "cell-like" structures
and "swimming around" in response to Potassium and Copper Ions.

https://youtu.be/raCepJ0Rc-s (https://youtu.be/raCepJ0Rc-s)
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 08, 2017, 03:03:31 PM
I made a second video here showing macro structures forming.
as you can clearly see (ok, maybe my camera is a bit fuzzy at full zoom)
balanced, carbon-centered molecules respond actively to ionic charges
in their environment.

once one masters omnipotence, and omnipresence
things can get kind of boring.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg-QSntvljU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg-QSntvljU)


this macro-structure forms into a large 3-d cell, and the smaller cells
pass into and out of it.
this process continues for hours.
eventually the 3-d structure encapsulates the ions within each cell.
at which point the cells become stable
and the ions travel around within the cells trying to gain symmetry.
the outer periphery becomes distorted as a result of the motions.
which further changes the symmetry, causing the ions to continue to move.

the cell ripples along its edges, and occasionally the smaller cells "crawl" around it, but
for the most part they just sit there rippling like jellyfish or something.

my hope is to embed these in a piezoelectric ionic salt (maybe rochelles)
and try to make a battery out of it.

but this basic mechanism (which I described in the posts a few pages back)
is how/why the carbon moves. on its own, without us needing to play with energy.
there is a random mess of different energies floating all around us.
everywhere, we can't prevent it.
but we can make use of it, and that's exactly what Graphene,
and other balanced carbon-centered molecules do.

under the same atomic physics, we see Sulfur behaving in the same manner.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 08, 2017, 03:07:02 PM
also Potassium, Yttrium, tantalum, and bohrium
all of which can create lifeforms, under the right conditions.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 08, 2017, 05:04:37 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 08, 2017, 01:54:57 PM
Well then please share your solution to the free energy created by stimulated graphene layers.
My understanding was laid out above in a comprehensive analysis of quantum-covelent bonds.
Which is the foundation of life.
Not just our carbon-based life, but all life.


If you want to "see" this type of thing, take a look at my video in the next post.

thanks. respect. you are a serious free energy researcher. well educated.

i saw the videos, not very clear, but understand what you are talking about.  energy is all around us, hopefully, graphene somehow can make a good energy receiver, absorb energy from ambient for free.

i been dreaming free energy, but woke up. i found out there is no free energy. 

no book or scientist, had  a clear definition of energy. the capacity to do work? what is it? word puzzle?

electrons change energy level to emit photons? electron has what capacity to do work? how electron carries such capacity to do work? do what work? how?

even einstein, admitted he knows shit about what are light quanta/quantum/energy/em wave.

so, before we find out what exactly is energy, search for free energy is like a joke.

would you agree?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 08, 2017, 05:51:55 PM
potential energy, kinetic energy, chemical energy, nuclear energy, solar, wind, wave, fuel?

i think/say energy is emf, electromotive force. moving force, carried by moving matter/charge.

all matters, are connected by gravity and repulsion force between electrons on their surface atoms. at all the times.

the sun attracted earth, electrons on the sun repel lines of sight electrons on our outer atmosphere. with the force f=Ke x ee/rr.

electrons on the sun vibrate under heat energy, the emf transfer to earth electrons instantly through that force. we call it light/em wave/radiant energy.

energy must exist with/within matter.  no matter what energy you are searching, find it from moving/vibrating matter.

i go for wind, wave, hot plasma on the sun.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 08, 2017, 06:04:46 PM
understood what exactly is energy, understand energy cannot vanish into nothing/vacuum space.

realize the sun is not ongoing nuclear reactor. will never die/cool off. knowing science lied again.

i hope i am wrong. sadly i might be right.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 08, 2017, 09:42:28 PM
are you convinced?

i am.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 09, 2017, 01:09:13 AM
It is good to try and understand the world around us.


That is what science is all about
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 09, 2017, 05:34:08 AM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 09, 2017, 01:09:13 AM
It is good to try and understand the world around us.


That is what science is all about

did you tried?

what is light? how atoms emit light? whats the mechanism?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 09, 2017, 05:35:23 AM
read and believe, copy and paste. what else have you done?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: Paul-R on December 09, 2017, 10:40:23 AM
Quote from: Belfior on December 08, 2017, 04:37:40 AM
moderator please ban this bot
Yes, Stefan, please, at least, put him on moderation. It seems to have worked with that_prphet .

He uses up bandwidth; that's all.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: citfta on December 09, 2017, 11:44:41 AM
Quote from: Paul-R on December 09, 2017, 10:40:23 AM
Yes, Stefan, please, at least, put him on moderation. It seems to have worked with that_prphet .

He uses up bandwidth; that's all.

Yes!  I will add another vote to that idea.  Isawit's only purpose seems to be to derail threads with useless posts that have nothing to do with the thread topic.  He has been asked several times to stop his useless posting or to start his own thread.  He refuses to do either of those.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 09, 2017, 01:44:59 PM
i leave this thread now, sorry, i just asked honest questions.

kidding a little, to make you happy.

if i don't like you, why tease you?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: lancaIV on December 09, 2017, 04:34:50 PM
                            Has it to be "Graphene" or is Graphit sufficient ?!


                           97% heat-to-electricity transformation-efficiency ?!


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DD&NR=287597A5&KC=A5&FT=D&ND=3&date=19910228&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 09, 2017, 06:13:28 PM
Quote from: isawit on December 08, 2017, 05:04:37 PM
thanks. respect. you are a serious free energy researcher. well educated.

i saw the videos, not very clear, but understand what you are talking about.  energy is all around us, hopefully, graphene somehow can make a good energy receiver, absorb energy from ambient for free.

i been dreaming free energy, but woke up. i found out there is no free energy. 

no book or scientist, had  a clear definition of energy. the capacity to do work? what is it? word puzzle?

electrons change energy level to emit photons? electron has what capacity to do work? how electron carries such capacity to do work? do what work? how?

even einstein, admitted he knows shit about what are light quanta/quantum/energy/em wave.

so, before we find out what exactly is energy, search for free energy is like a joke.

would you agree?

if you ask a girl can i kiss you, if she is not disagree, go ahead kiss her.

kiss her tits too.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 09, 2017, 06:38:08 PM
don't miss the 3d 1
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 09, 2017, 07:17:33 PM
Quote from: isawit on December 09, 2017, 05:34:08 AM
did you tried?

what is light? how atoms emit light? whats the mechanism?


I can build a laser and explain the science behind it that makes
it work. But since you don't believe in EM


We can say that the atom becomes excited due to external stimuli
and emits a piece of light as it's calming down.



Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 09, 2017, 07:19:48 PM
We can cause this to happen with heat,light, electricity,
particle bombardment (momentum), or other forms of
that stuff we call "energy".


Heres what graphene lasers can do
https://m.phys.org/news/2016-01-graphene-plasmons-tunable-terahertz-laser.html (http://https://m.phys.org/news/2016-01-graphene-plasmons-tunable-terahertz-laser.html)
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 09, 2017, 08:26:41 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 09, 2017, 07:17:33 PM

I can build a laser and explain the science behind it that makes
it work. But since you don't believe in EM


We can say that the atom becomes excited due to external stimuli
and emits a piece of light as it's calming down.

no. build laser is easy, a dollar a piece laser pointer. the theory behind how it works is bs. electron hole?

we can say anything we want to about atoms. what's the mechanism of exited?

as i said, before we fully understood how 1 electron and 1 proton able to form stable atom, the rest all theories involves atoms are mistakes.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 09, 2017, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 09, 2017, 07:19:48 PM
We can cause this to happen with heat,light, electricity,
particle bombardment (momentum), or other forms of
that stuff we call "energy".


Heres what graphene lasers can do
https://m.phys.org/news/2016-01-graphene-plasmons-tunable-terahertz-laser.html (http://https://m.phys.org/news/2016-01-graphene-plasmons-tunable-terahertz-laser.html)

all energy is emf, must carried by matter. all things happening is caused by emf.

nothing provides limitless energy, no free energy exist. graphene cannot produce energy unless other matters transfer emf to it.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 10, 2017, 07:54:16 AM
Quote from: isawit on December 09, 2017, 08:33:54 PM
all energy is emf, must carried by matter. all things happening is caused by emf.

nothing provides limitless energy, no free energy exist. graphene cannot produce energy unless other matters transfer emf to it.


All matter produces its own emf
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 10, 2017, 08:14:01 AM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 10, 2017, 07:54:16 AM

All matter produces its own emf

your best scientific idea/concept so far.

every atom has its bounding energy, opposite charges attract each other, like magnet attracts iron ball. they collide and produce heat/thermal energy.

the more atoms condensed together under gravity, the more energy stored in the mass, the higher temperature. all suns' energy are from star formation.

all energy is shared by all matter, depend on their mass. energy and matter both conserved/immortal, there is no heat death.

nuclear energy is atom's inner bounding energy, chemical energy is atom's outer bounding energy.

atoms are not 99.99% empty space. not as present science told you. i showed you the correct model already, do you understand it?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 10, 2017, 08:28:05 AM
Quote from: isawit on December 10, 2017, 08:14:01 AM
your best scientific idea/concept so far.

every atom has its bounding energy, opposite charges attract each other, like magnet attracts iron ball. they collide and produce heat/thermal energy.

the more atoms condensed together under gravity, the more energy stored in the mass, the higher temperature. all suns' energy are from star formation.

all energy is shared by all matter, depend on their mass. energy and matter both conserved/immortal, there is no heat death.

nuclear energy is atom's inner bounding energy, chemical energy is atom's outer bounding energy.

atoms are not 99.99% empty space. not as present science told you. i showed you the correct model already, do you understand it?


I understand your conceptualization, however I do not agree with it.
There are incomplete aspects of our science, that I cannot deny, but
that doesn't mean we throw away everything we have learned.


Our science works exactly the way we describe it.
The moment that stops happening, we are forced to update our theories.
Such is the scientific method.


The reason it is stated that atoms are 99% empty is based on the fact that
the 1s orbital (and subsequent orbitals) have a diameter much greater than
that of an ionic proton (H+)
When the atom is considered in whole (proton + electron) the space between
them we find no mass, no particles, only an interaction force between the two
components of the atom.
This force has no mass content, so it is regarded as only "field".
Thus, 'empty space'.


Could this be an inaccurate/incomplete description? Sure
But it works exactly the way we describe it, and all of our science is based
on this description. It the atom behaved differently, our technology would fail.
Forcing us to redefine our analysis.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 10, 2017, 09:42:57 AM
well, how standard model explain why electron and proton do not stick together?

there is only 1 force exists between those 2 particles f=Ke x pq/rr

1st orbit? how can electrons orbit protons? they can only collide according to known physics laws.

how electrons change energy level? what is energy level? how to emit photon?

full of holes in present theories, can you see it?

Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 10, 2017, 09:55:47 AM
lots of theoretical nonsense being portrayed as science. em theory, qm, relativity, tbb, black hole, photon, time travel, dark matter, simulation.

computer simulation can only produce digital signals, real world is based on matter and energy.

time is not a place, time has no location, where to travel? how to travel to no where?

simple facts, can you see it?

i doubt, you never questioned science theories, am i correct?

Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 10, 2017, 02:30:44 PM
voyager is fake, gravity is decelerating it at all the times, how can it escape from solar system?

iss is fake, ac systems cannot work in vacuum space, heat cannot radiate into space but matter.

einstein is wrong about time dilation.

put same atomic clocks in the sun, earth, mars, flying air plan, for 1 day.

each clock will have different reading.

which time is dilated? which clock has correct time?

time dilation is misinterpretation of timer's moving rate/reading affected by gravity/acceleration/force upon it.

time is not a thing, time has no location, cannot be touched, what is dilating what? how?



the most famous equation e=mcc is BS

mass is condensed charged particles. energy is emf matter carried. totally different, cannot equivalent.

a 1 kg gold bar at rest has no energy but thermal energy, for it to carry 1kgcc energy, it must move at 1.414 c speed. how fast can we move a bullet?

nuclear energy? 1 kg best fuel, how many % of it can produce heat?

the most famous experiment double slit is BS

light is not wave nor particle, but electron's vibration force. put double slit experiment in a vacuum chamber, wave property will disappear.

have you doubt any scientific theories? debunked any? disproved any?

i showed you how to win a nobel doing double slit experiment in vacuum, did you even care? i saw no comment from you in that thread.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 10, 2017, 03:47:53 PM
if heat can radiate into space, earth will be as hot as the sun, the whole universe will be at same temperature, thermal equilibrium.

is that a fact?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 10, 2017, 05:56:26 PM
think deeper, you may ask, if of heat cannot radiate into space, why all the energy we produced/used from the past didn't make earth warmer?

very good question. some of you might know the answer already.

if you cut a channel between a pond and ocean, the water level will be the same.

if rained 10 foot in the pond slowly, the water level will not raise at all. both in the pond and ocean.

the repulsion force between lines of sight electrons on surface atoms of masses/matters f=Ke x ee/rr is the water channel, thermal energy is water, mass is water container.

thank this thread and everyone, sweet day!

Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 10, 2017, 11:16:41 PM
Quote from: isawit on December 09, 2017, 08:33:54 PM
all energy is emf, must carried by matter. all things happening is caused by emf.


all things happening is at now, all existence is at now, emf moves around, changes container, but it can never stop moving. time is forever ongoing now, all past became now, all future will become now.

now is all the time we can act. 

if you love someone, act now. see right thing to do, do it now.

then you shall be free from regret.

Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 11, 2017, 01:21:42 AM
i showed you true science, if you become a believer, you should spread your knowledge.

if you meet tyson, give him a lesson.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 11, 2017, 01:46:48 AM
God's blood is emf
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 11, 2017, 01:50:59 AM
God's meat is matter

Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 11, 2017, 01:56:03 AM
we are God's brain cells
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 11, 2017, 03:56:18 AM
tyson is a stupid cell.
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 11, 2017, 04:02:06 AM
even you are 10 times smarter
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 11, 2017, 07:18:43 AM
did i make you laugh? how hard?

paypal me 5?
Title: Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
Post by: isawit on December 11, 2017, 08:07:38 AM
Quote from: isawit on December 10, 2017, 11:16:41 PM
all things happening is at now, all existence is at now, emf moves around, changes container, but it can never stop moving. time is forever ongoing now, all past became now, all future will become now.

now is all the time we can act. 

if you love someone, act now. see right thing to do, do it now.

then you shall be free from regret.

i set my goal of the rest of my life as to start a science revolution, write a free online book to spread my ideas in fundamental physics.

too bad that i have poor english and education, i really need a co-writer.

please help me!