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Title: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: IonLady on May 08, 2019, 04:30:40 AM
Dear All,

This is a good info for all !!
I'm looking for all the designs and models of overunity transformers, I want to share the info I got from the results of the post before, you can see it here
https://youtu.be/ybzLpOypSDs
what is your opinion ?

Thank you

Best Regard
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on May 09, 2019, 11:23:29 AM
About AlvaroCS21 his comment I am not satisfied :
Indrawan uses such material for the primary :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc%E2%80%93carbon_battery (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc%E2%80%93carbon_battery)

Imris "Band-/Foil"-Condensator/Capacitor in his transformer
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=42&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990812&CC=DE&NR=29910512U1&KC=U1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=42&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990812&CC=DE&NR=29910512U1&KC=U1#Aluminium) Aluminium and Copper, in vaccuo

AlvaroCS21 : did he ever saw an applicated  Dr. Imris device on video or real life in function. ?
BTW : the Imris transformer application has never been officially approved and granted


Mr. Indrawan is demonstrating openly " a conversion process".
We do not know about his intentions, his concept economical potentials ( work-hour/ lifetime/ charge cycles).
I see him ,Yusuf Indrawan,  in a list with Lasersaber and Gerard Morin.
R.Friedrich ? Let us see

The well qualified german Capacitor producing company  http://www.bkprenzlau.de/ (http://www.bkprenzlau.de/)  have had really technicalproblems to translateDr.  Imris physical numbers in ready and really to use Band-/Foil-condensators.

Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: tonygiang on May 10, 2019, 04:00:30 AM
Hi all!

perhaps that, should Indrawan 's COP be so big!
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: tonygiang on May 11, 2019, 09:40:48 PM
Hi  lancaIV!

I has a question : Why is this transformer  "use in resistive loads" only? inductive load ?
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on May 12, 2019, 09:45:33 AM
Without transformer details I can not give an answer  !
In geral :
Resistive loads are less sensitive to pulsed DC~ AC,  for inductive devices likemotors you need the right RPM/Hz ratio ,the common 50/60 Hz ~ 3000/3600 RPM.
Assumption :
Variable speed/frequency controler probably for his transformer needed if inductive loads charging !

Best solution :
asking him, Mr.Indrawan, by e-mail directly or waiting for his next disclosure and development steps

Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 30, 2020, 08:18:35 AM
Quote from: lancaIV on May 12, 2019, 09:45:33 AM
...Best solution :
asking him, Mr.Indrawan, by e-mail directly or waiting for his next disclosure and development steps


"EVERYONE BE AWARE!
This user has an email: yusufindrawan932@gmail.com
I contacted him by this e-mail and he requested from me, 800$ to buy the coil asembly posted in the video. I searched his e-mail IP Adress: [...] and it is hosted by: mail-sor-f41.google.com, an e-mail server which apparently sends fraudulent messages, to scam people for money interests. I encourage everyone NOT TO SEND MONEY or any type of contact information to it".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybzLpOypSDs&lc=Ugxgi7pKLUYr4EKgoNZ4AaABAg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybzLpOypSDs&lc=Ugxgi7pKLUYr4EKgoNZ4AaABAg)
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on October 30, 2020, 09:25:28 AM
Thanks for ' knocking at his,Mr.Indrawan, door ' !

Without work hours durability experience this 800 US$ investment ( not to think about fraud risc) is  actually for this open source device  not to recommend !

Sincerely
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 30, 2020, 09:29:06 AM
Quote from: lancaIV on October 30, 2020, 09:25:28 AM
Thanks for ' knocking at his,Mr.Indrawan, door ' !

That wasn't me. It was someone who left a comment to the video. If you click the link you can see his comment under the video.
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on October 30, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Okay !
Several days back I visited his video-site ,but did not notice the newest comments ! ( 1 year !)So we see a trial and the response !
Thanks for the ' up to dat(e)'-ing ! ;)
Btw : it it not about the sum, patentauction.com 'Economic lighting system .... " -seller chari (Greece) wants
1000 US$ (100 'shared' participations)

By functional and relyable operation these devices will/would be this investment 1000 x 1000 times worth ,not as win by the investor but by the users and their accumulated energy savings

chardi : 1000 US$ for 7-20 US$ mass production costs device,Wp ?

Indrawan : 800 US$ for ? US$  mass production costs device,Wp ?
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 30, 2020, 09:58:35 AM
Byron Brubaker gave us a system for FREE!

https://youtu.be/43rfGb49LbE (https://youtu.be/43rfGb49LbE)

https://youtu.be/WzLWXp8tCRs (https://youtu.be/WzLWXp8tCRs)

https://youtu.be/sgFViUxaiuo (https://youtu.be/sgFViUxaiuo)

https://schematics-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/project/pid-25237/2.1/page-1.svg (https://schematics-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/project/pid-25237/2.1/page-1.svg)


Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on October 30, 2020, 10:28:27 AM
Fine to get an alternative more ! :)
Performance teste result !? Tate-Brubaker circuit ?

I would like to see  John  Cletus Williams his radiation heater  US8059946 ( high output of BTU's per Watt )
sourced by 24/heating period active solar cells

and these loaded by super-efficient lamp transformer concept as "artificial sun " !

The transfomer clearly also possible as : air-core = core-free

heater C.O.P.10 x solar cell tube C.O.P. 10 x power saving transformer C.O.P. 10
= accumulated C.O.P. 1000 x  heat output system !
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 30, 2020, 10:35:03 AM
Byron Brubaker (MX6Maximus) deleted his Y-tube channel for some reason. He had a lot of videos demonstrating real power with his circuit. There are others who've replicated his circuit:

https://youtu.be/D8YAAAkAobw (https://youtu.be/D8YAAAkAobw)

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=brubaker+hairpin (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=brubaker+hairpin)
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: forest on October 30, 2020, 12:46:54 PM
I don't think this circuit has any special advantage. Capacitor pass AC current indirectly so the only way I see to get OU with Byron circuit is to put resonance somewhere
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 30, 2020, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: forest on October 30, 2020, 12:46:54 PM
I don't think this circuit has any special advantage. Capacitor pass AC current indirectly so the only way I see to get OU with Byron circuit is to put resonance somewhere

Greetings, forest
I don't think that this circuit is about OU. It's more about free-energy from the mains POTENTIAL. Basically a turbocharged version of the Lorrie Matchett device https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdup42Epq0o&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdup42Epq0o&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on October 30, 2020, 02:37:58 PM
And Lorrie Matchett's 3rd Generation youtube video info with 48 coils

Why ? Good question !




WO2004100349 series connection of identical resistors
same Volt less Amps
output per lamp/resistor :
      Lux,lumen per Watt  ?      BTU per Watt ?

Low cost ' multiple heat strips '-heater potential ?
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on October 30, 2020, 03:22:19 PM
Quote from: lancaIV on October 30, 2020, 02:37:58 PM
And Lorrie Matchett's 3rd Generation youtube video info with 48 coils

Why ? Good question !

I don't know. Different people come up with different ideas?
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on October 31, 2020, 03:13:26 AM
                                                            WHY ?

Lorrie Matchett is doing in his 3rd Generation video this question,decreasing Amperage - under load - condition related !

'ideas' are ever nice,to work out these to technical and industrial NORM-devices harder and financial more expensive ,we - as developper - have to pay for the official process !

Zero US$ Brubacker/Matchett ,800 US$ Indrawan ,1000 US$ chardi :only small fraction from

related 100 000 US $ minimum costs for each device the technical normation process ( included UAL or TUEV/DEKRA approval ) for legal using ( device selling,device use and grid connection )

Prototyping and study 75000 US$ for such small cheap devices + 25000 US$ UAL/TUEV/DEKRA technical approval

This is independent from purchase/availability  kind : gratis/donation - no profit- low profit - high profit/margin

When the technical device is the reazon for damages and/or injuries,the device producer/experimenter/ giver/ seller ( non/commercial )  is 100% for the losts responsible !
                         

                                      the social/economical/ecological target :


            absolute minimum      C.O.P. 10

in 20° Kelvin amplitude climate zones for 80 sqm living area ( conventional building )for 4000 W heat energy = 0° C outside and average 20° C room temperature

                                                     400 electric VA-/Watts spending

     If on-grid by energy-mix 400 EE-Watts x PE-factor 1,8 = 720 PE-Watts / 80 sqm = 9 PE-Watts/sqm
                           compared

About PE-factor : energy source dependent , can be 3 f.e. coal based electricity generation or 0 by renewables

Here ' 1,8 ' the german mix from nuclear + coal + gas + wind + water + solar + biogas



Nearly Zero Energy Standart : 20 PE-Watts/sqm                now in E.U. energetic new building  obligation !

- Passive House Energy Standart : 10 PE-Watts/sqm       in Ireland,E.U.-member,new building standart obligation !


                                             10/20 PE Watts ?
By electric heater or chiller this can be by Primary Energy Factor = PEF

based by coal = PEF 3,0 :

3,3 electric Watts/sqm consume as Passive House Energetic standart
6,7 electric Watts/sqm consume as Nearly Zero Energy Building standart

or
based by renewables = PEF 0,0
       
                                    theoretically ( no technical-mathematical  limit )

33/333/.... electric Watts/sqm consume as Passive House Energetic standart


67/670/.... Watts/sqm consume as Nearly Zero Energy Building standart

CONSTRUCTION STYLE FREEDOM AND LIBERTY IS BY ECOLOGIC VIEW AND SOCIAL ORDER UNIQUELY PE-FACTOR DEPENDENT,NOT CONSTRUCTION/INSULATION MATERIAL AND THICKNESS

Thermo-grafical house imaging and blower door teste are not ecology indicating !

  Only losts or consume leckage showing !  By PEF= 0,0 ecologic unimportant !





A PEF 0,0 energy source makes a 200 years old irish thermic uninsulated cottage easily to an 'up to date' energetic  'Passive House'


C.O.P. 10 x C.O.P. 10  cascade effect of heat/cooling systems decrease the house construction or energetic modernization costs  !


With C.O.P. 100x   a 1 cm thin  bubble foil tent gets energetic 'Passive House'-standart !


C.O.P. 10  x C.O.P. 10 x C.O.P. 10 cascade even more !




Up to 20° Celsius negative climate zone = 40 ° Kelvin amplitude  :

air/water heat pump DE3444610 and DE3212800 Rene Valkenburg

Hallowell acadia heat pump,technical concept 2020 ' open source'


                    Cold climate zone : - 20 ° Celsius strong winter peak

By 40° K amplitude the conventional 80 sqm building needs for 20° C average room-temperature up to 8000 W heat energy x PE Factor 1,8 =

                            14400 PE-Watts / 80 sqm x 10 PE-Watts/sqm Passive House maximum             = C.O.P. 18
                            14400 PE-Watts / 80 sqm x 20 PE-Watts/sqm Nearly Zero Energy Building max. = C.O.P. 9

MDI ( Monolith Dome Institute ) writes about US conventional construction building heat need max :1200 ft area ~ 112 sqm 12000 Watts ~ 10 W/ft or 107 W/sqm

Climate diagram Miami/Florida and Chicago/Illinois comparison ,related average seasonal temperature ! ::)
Doing a look : Colorado,Boulder : Dec. average low 21° F ~ 6,12 ° Celsius negative  :) Snow-man feelings !  ::)
Not far from Munich's 28° F in Dec./Jan. ! Wet or dry - windy or windstill ?


Passive House energetic standart = 90% less energy consume 107 W/ sqm versus 10 PE-Watts/sqm in the  US

with C.O.P. 100 x                                   99% less



Instead thermodynamic cycle devices also alternatively :

electro-dynamic devices,called " Resonator"

( ~ hot/cold Seebeck/Peltier/Thomson effect but with 90-99% Carnot-efficiency) :

Gerhard Beier,Helmut Reichelt,Joseph Yater as development pioneers


I have no physical and technical doubts about conventional air/air heat pump with seasonal average C.O.P. 3 to


improve to C.O.P. 12 and with Imris 2010 static generator C.O.P. ≥ 10 couple to reach an accumulated C.O.P. ≥ 100


state,



80 sqm living area air conditioning equipment, 20 ° Kelvin heat amplitude minimum satisfying  :
                                     4000 Watt peak

2 x 3000 W/ 10 000 BTU   heat pump with gear + magnet motor for C.O.P. 12 improvement

each 550 Euros ( motor with Inrush Current Limiter )

and nominal 1000 Watt Imris generator for 500 Euros

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total 1600 Euros/+- 1875 US$ for 80 sqm all seasons  air conditoning =

20 Euros( 23,5 US$)/sqm '(Ultra-)Passive House'- Standart costs

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

( this clearly as mass production consumer end price,not for the prototypes : 300.000 US$ development costs for ready to commerce )

but I know that there is one less expensive way !








Idea : all seasons inflatable (translucent) bubble foil tent with C.O.P. 100 air conditioning ,                                                       
                                              24/365 glamping society


Apis Core,ICON,WASP                                                                                                3d-house printing
Polycare,Interbloc                                                                                                        stone block buildings
woodframe,butlerprojects,conics,bhb.sbg.at(candian block-house style)        wood house
Foldable portable building (Kalinowski),Power Profile Building,Leep Core       



Who pays more than 250 Euros/sqm home-kit* value will get in future R.O.I. losts !
* : Not Nearly Zero,not Net Zero : Zero Energy + Zero Water Building infrastructure equipped



From russian space-shuttle MIR to earth use : Jugend Forscht project,90' : Eberspaechter et al.
      portable 100 % closed cycle water system ( demo- prototype,TUEV-approved : 600 Liters per day )
                               600 liters/day compared


Home-mobile/Camper forum : as example one couple with 50 liter potable water consume ,for 5 days !                                                 5 liter per day and capita !


Flexibility : flyable ' inflatable bubble tent platform' !? Drone-technology incorporated
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on November 01, 2020, 09:17:05 AM
Which are the costs for a shelter/area cover/ tent ( ~ Yurte/Tipi-Igloo) in Colorado/USA ?
With air conditioning sourced by ' real overunity transformer' ?

archive.org  : www.shelterdomes.co.uk (http://www.shelterdomes.co.uk)       shelter in dome-style based by bubble foil
When by 20° K amplitude 2000 Watts heat energy need then by 40° K 4000 Watts heat need for 25 sqm/ 270 ft
useable ground area ! 

40 ° K amplitude based by Boulder 21°F Dec. average minimum temperature !

The bubble foil dome-tent coating with OSMA Tech insulation coat ( ~ Insuladd / Radiance )and the maximum heat need we can expect with 2000 Wattp  !
     2000 Wp heat / 25 sqm = 80 Wp/sqm


2000 Wp heat by C.O.P. 5x IR heat pump concept ~ 400 W electric

2000 Wp heat by C.O.P. 10x Graphit Nano Plates heater ~ 200 W electric

2000 Wp heat by OSMA Tech heater ~ 300 W electric




Let us take the 400 W x PE-F 1,8 ( I mean similar in the US caused coal/nuclear mix) and  we get :
     720 Wp PE / 25 sqm ~   29 Wp PE/ sqm

With a ' real overunity transformer' C.O.P. 2x this shelter has in winter Nearly Zero Energy Building standart

                                                               C.O.P. 3x this shelter has in winter Passive House Energetic standart



shelterdomes.co.uk given shelter-dome production costs :                300 US$ each

Osma Tech coating we do calculate with  5 US$/sqm ground area : 125 US$

4 electric 500 W IR heat pumps with 100 US$ each :                            400 US$

'real overunity transformer' :                                                                          ?  US$


For nominal 750 Watt I calculate the Imris generator production costs ( 9 Kg device) with 300 Euros,so endconsumer would have to pay in minimum for ' open source'-condition but development costs including 450 Euros,net !
Compared conventional ' patent rights'-saved 500% average market margin price  : 1500 Euros,net

300 + 125 + 400 + 530 ( Euro to $) = 1355 US$/25 sqm mass production ' shelter kit' selling price

                                                                  ~ 55 US$/sqm

Under 50 US$/sqm  to under 40 US$ per square meter living area ,all inklusive : who makes it possible ?




After jovoto ' 300 US$ house '-competition now a ' 100 US$/sqm Zero Energy & Water building '- competition ?!





The UN would like to see cheap shelters,with habitants air conditionized comfort

This is a 'soft top'-dome shelter,
changing to hard top 'Burning Man'-hexapod or hexayurt  www.hexayurt.com (http://www.hexayurt.com)
later to foam-igloo by Iglu-Village ,a german shelter inventor/Garmisch-Partenkirchen ~ Olympic Village 1972 'casanova'-modules by Peter Huebner

www.planetaryrenewal.org (http://www.planetaryrenewal.org) 1 US$/sqft   

When cubical a 20 sqm chamber has 65 sqm surface area ,as dome = x 0,7 ~ 45,5 sqm /0,093 ~
                          490 sqft surface x 1 US$ ~   25 US$/sqm living area material construction costs
WASP 'GAIA' 900 Euros for 20 sqm 3d house printing,jovoto 'geopolymer'-house sqm costs ?
New Mexico : Navajos : Adobe buildings ~ geopolymer construction

                              ancient technology and techniques

www.john-perlin.com (http://www.john-perlin.com) about solar history ,

New Passive House movement - 'father ': Bo Adamson ,found in China and Portugal the promoting Ideal

Socrates architecture as Ideal for reconstruction  : St.George secondary school,Wallasey /Merseyside/England

' .... the first building in the world to be heated entirely by solar energy ....'  built 1961
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: AreYouSure? on November 02, 2020, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: IonLady on May 08, 2019, 04:30:40 AM
Dear All,

This is a good info for all !!
I'm looking for all the designs and models of overunity transformers, I want to share the info I got from the results of the post before, you can see it here
https://youtu.be/ybzLpOypSDs
what is your opinion ?

Thank you

Best Regard

Is that real device?
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: AlienGrey on November 05, 2020, 01:26:41 AM
https://www.gaia.com/article/project-serpo-zeta-reticuli-exchange-program?utm_source=google+paid&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_campaign=1-USA-DYNAMIC-SEARCH&utm_content=UFOs+&+Aliens&ch=br&gclid=CjwKCAiAv4n9BRA9EiwA30WNDwFVIKU9PttKHBy2BR7QuIpSGeaXp4wYSXd9h_HtZo8tRUsFzaI1RxoC81wQAvD_BwE
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: AlienGrey on November 05, 2020, 01:28:18 AM
Quote from: lancaIV on November 01, 2020, 09:17:05 AM
Which are the costs for a shelter/area cover/ tent ( ~ Yurte/Tipi-Igloo) in Colorado/USA ?
With air conditioning sourced by ' real overunity transformer' ?

archive.org  : www.shelterdomes.co.uk (http://www.shelterdomes.co.uk)       shelter in dome-style based by bubble foil
When by 20° K amplitude 2000 Watts heat energy need then by 40° K 4000 Watts heat need for 25 sqm/ 270 ft
useable ground area ! 

40 ° K amplitude based by Boulder 21°F Dec. average minimum temperature !

The bubble foil dome-tent coating with OSMA Tech insulation coat ( ~ Insuladd / Radiance )and the maximum heat need we can expect with 2000 Wattp  !
     2000 Wp heat / 25 sqm = 80 Wp/sqm


2000 Wp heat by C.O.P. 5x IR heat pump concept ~ 400 W electric

2000 Wp heat by C.O.P. 10x Graphit Nano Plates heater ~ 200 W electric

2000 Wp heat by OSMA Tech heater ~ 300 W electric




Let us take the 400 W x PE-F 1,8 ( I mean similar in the US caused coal/nuclear mix) and  we get :
     720 Wp PE / 25 sqm ~   29 Wp PE/ sqm

With a ' real overunity transformer' C.O.P. 2x this shelter has in winter Nearly Zero Energy Building standart

                                                               C.O.P. 3x this shelter has in winter Passive House Energetic standart



shelterdomes.co.uk given shelter-dome production costs :                300 US$ each

Osma Tech coating we do calculate with  5 US$/sqm ground area : 125 US$

4 electric 500 W IR heat pumps with 100 US$ each :                            400 US$

'real overunity transformer' :                                                                          ?  US$


For nominal 750 Watt I calculate the Imris generator production costs ( 9 Kg device) with 300 Euros,so endconsumer would have to pay in minimum for ' open source'-condition but development costs including 450 Euros,net !
Compared conventional ' patent rights'-saved 500% average market margin price  : 1500 Euros,net

300 + 125 + 400 + 530 ( Euro to $) = 1355 US$/25 sqm mass production ' shelter kit' selling price

                                                                  ~ 55 US$/sqm

Under 50 US$/sqm  to under 40 US$ per square meter living area ,all inklusive : who makes it possible ?




After jovoto ' 300 US$ house '-competition now a ' 100 US$/sqm Zero Energy & Water building '- competition ?!





The UN would like to see cheap shelters,with habitants air conditionized comfort

This is a 'soft top'-dome shelter,
changing to hard top 'Burning Man'-hexapod or hexayurt  www.hexayurt.com (http://www.hexayurt.com)
later to foam-igloo by Iglu-Village ,a german shelter inventor/Garmisch-Partenkirchen ~ Olympic Village 1972 'casanova'-modules by Peter Huebner

www.planetaryrenewal.org (http://www.planetaryrenewal.org) 1 US$/sqft   

When cubical a 20 sqm chamber has 65 sqm surface area ,as dome = x 0,7 ~ 45,5 sqm /0,093 ~
                          490 sqft surface x 1 US$ ~   25 US$/sqm living area material construction costs
WASP 'GAIA' 900 Euros for 20 sqm 3d house printing,jovoto 'geopolymer'-house sqm costs ?
New Mexico : Navajos : Adobe buildings ~ geopolymer construction

                              ancient technology and techniques

www.john-perlin.com (http://www.john-perlin.com) about solar history ,

New Passive House movement - 'father ': Bo Adamson ,found in China and Portugal the promoting Ideal

Socrates architecture as Ideal for reconstruction  : St.George secondary school,Wallasey /Merseyside/England

' .... the first building in the world to be heated entirely by solar energy ....'  built 1961
WTF

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22647 on: 04 November 2020, 11:14:50 »

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AlienGrey,could you give me a cost list about  the used material input in your ' Kapanadze prototype'
by actual commercial selling prices to get an idea about the later KWh-generation costs ?

Probably our FE-solutions in comparison are not far away in energy generation price  !
Sincerely

p.s.:
in private households = b2c  electricity prices - global average 15 ¢/KWh -  are 85% from total costs part
                 
                                                            = service salary related,

changing to DIY-generation this part decreases,it goes down :  ~ 50% or 1/2 the actual b2b electricity delivery costs about 5,5¢/KWh = average 2,5 ¢/KWh later

FE-generator production costs and selling price :

100 units ' Name-Label Trademark' material,ready to use

30 units  ' No Name Label Trademark' material ,ready to use

15 units ' No Name Label Trademark' material ,as DIY-kit

7,5 units 'No Name Label Trademark' material,as DIY-kit,fob factory


Why to pay 100 units when I can get for 7,5 units from all cases same production line ?

Over 90% FE-device material  investment costs reducing means over 90% KWh-generation costs reducing !
Economics is easy ! Not : buying cheap and selling more expensive
         
                                    But : buying cheap and generating cheap - for self-use

We can decide to pay 50 $/hour professional engineers costs or alternatively by global market comparison 5$/hour !
When you buy an average compact class car which value has it by the end of its life,after +- 12 years  ?
Car pure material value ( today new cars with increasing quote from recycling material = scratch reuse)  at the beginning : less than 1$/Kg
By our 100% recycling target economy we have to differ ' sustainable value' definition !
To pay too much = time and ecology waste

I know the $ difference : US$ versus HK$ from €-view
One global important for the new/scratch raw material market,the other for production/transformation  price/Kg
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Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: AlienGrey on November 05, 2020, 03:11:23 AM
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Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on November 05, 2020, 05:48:05 AM
Quote from: AlienGrey on November 05, 2020, 03:11:23 AM
LANCA1V TAKE NOTE

BEFORE YOU GO AROUND POOPING OVER THE WRONG THREADCAUSING DISRUPTION

WHY NOT CRATE YOUR OWN MEWS TREAD AND DISRUPT THAT WHERE ONLY YOU

AS A TROLL CAN GRAFFITI AS MUCH IN YOUR OWN THREAD.

i MEAN.  WHAT IS IT YOU DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE DIFERANCE BETWEEN A NEWS CHANNEL

AND A BUILDERS CHANNEL IE ARE YOU STUPID OR A PLAIN TROLL?

Yes,AlienGrey,I do understand the-  by your intellectual stage ' DIFERANCE', by mine : difference !
And this makes the ' builder' motivation,serenity and success quote difference !
But beside this : what is your official ( approved ! By engineers lab and estatal office ) technical standart improvement  success during your 'builder'- R&D ,
since your first day as overunity-member ?

'pipe dream' becamed reality ?

Rotative or static transforming device ? C.O.P. ≥ 1 ?


Sincerely

p.s.: troll and trollen ,anglo-saxonic: to depart ( under protest,unwished, ashamed )
         to differ from Islands 'Troll'-s

         trollen und trotten

        Some here behaves like 'Trott'-s,Alltags-Trott,

        ugs. 'Trottel'  ;)   

       Humoristisch-liebevoll : damischer Kerl,Rindvieh  ;D Unterste Schublade: sozial und technisch unversiert
       stumpfsinnig ~ stupere/stupidus       Al Bundi : Dumpfbacke= Kelly B. ~dimwit/pumpkin ~ stupid


      AlienGrey,I took note/notation  ! And compared reflexive !
   
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: Floor on November 06, 2020, 05:10:05 PM
@  IonLady

https://sites.google.com/site/aferlab/home/patrick-kelly---a-practical-guide-to-free-energy-devices

See Chapter 3 below

  good hunting
      and
        best wishes
    floor
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on December 24, 2020, 04:14:27 PM
Can anyone translate the attached screenshot of some YT comments into a schematic, and comment on the validity and viability of such a scheme?
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on December 29, 2020, 09:50:15 AM
Quote from: NdaClouDzzz on December 24, 2020, 04:14:27 PM
Can anyone translate the attached screenshot of some YT comments into a schematic, and comment on the validity and viability of such a scheme?

I think I get it.
Because the refrigerator compressor/motor is a fixed load (except at start up), you can use caps to run the motor coils as parallel LC circuits, and thus reduce amp draw!

Some informative videos that may help someone in understanding:

fun with lcs  https://youtu.be/uNYUu1VL1aM (https://youtu.be/uNYUu1VL1aM)

Energy Propagation  https://youtu.be/kQdcwDCBoNY (https://youtu.be/kQdcwDCBoNY)

Resonant rise of Parallel LC  https://youtu.be/x-1EKjOtrPM (https://youtu.be/x-1EKjOtrPM)
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on January 25, 2021, 02:47:43 AM
I found the answer to my question posted above, no thanks to all of you members who've been here long enough to know about this but couldn't be bothered to post a link!



                                             CAPACITANCE LOWERS INDUCTION MOTOR AMP DRAW BY 80%

https://overunity.com/6606/induction-motors-and-capacitors-lowers-amps-consumption/ (https://overunity.com/6606/induction-motors-and-capacitors-lowers-amps-consumption/)

https://youtu.be/63tX67HnwGw (https://youtu.be/63tX67HnwGw)

https://youtu.be/VdHmQR1FEjg (https://youtu.be/VdHmQR1FEjg)

https://youtu.be/HYSdSwNdl0c (https://youtu.be/HYSdSwNdl0c)

https://youtu.be/lSKWstQMqy0 (https://youtu.be/lSKWstQMqy0)

https://youtu.be/EAoUnws81kw (https://youtu.be/EAoUnws81kw)

https://youtu.be/pLQRsexvUuM (https://youtu.be/pLQRsexvUuM)

Capacitive induction motor and method https://patents.google.com/patent/US6331760B1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US6331760B1/en)

Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on January 25, 2021, 05:30:15 AM
NdaClouDzzz, beside to listen :
https://peswiki.com/directory:james-jim-f-murray-iii (https://peswiki.com/directory:james-jim-f-murray-iii)
60 Hz conventional = 3600 RPM need ,by his tecnique 1800 RPM

and

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=meta+c+&IN=dinnan&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=meta+c+&IN=dinnan&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
especially

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=TW&NR=200627764A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=20060801&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=TW&NR=200627764A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=20060801&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
Table 6



Attention related PF : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_factor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_factor)             is a dimensionless number (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensionless_number) in the closed interval (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_interval) of −1 to 1

Also related : inrush current and inrush voltage  and " inrush limiter" or use as "interval pulse power"

To note the numbers game :

https://drivesncontrols.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/4917/_91Re-invented_92_fan_motor_cuts_energy_use_by_up_to_80_25.html (https://drivesncontrols.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/4917/_91Re-invented_92_fan_motor_cuts_energy_use_by_up_to_80_25.html)
Until now, the commercial refrigeration industry has had two main choices for fan motors: induction, or shaded-pole, motors, developed in the 1880s, which account for more than 65% of all commercial refrigeration motors in the US and are only 20% efficient; and electronically-commutated motors (ECMs), developed in the 1960s, which currently have a 35% market share and are about 60% efficient.
The new Q-Sync motor has a claimed efficiency of 75% and is similar in cost to an ECM. At the heart of the patent-pending design is a simpler, smarter controller.


20%/75% as "up to 80% energy savings" ratio  case !




Sincere
OCWL
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: AlienGrey on January 25, 2021, 06:38:38 AM
What transformer ? it's a motor  your pointing to and i don't want some bozo taking over my computer witch could happen if i down load there control software.
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on January 25, 2021, 07:01:28 AM
AG,dividing internet and intranet !
Chips with integrated software : Eprom


And when Nda... writes about motor process controlling I give only some more open source links,
with the advantage or choice from rotoric principle ,like couple Hector's rotoverter,to mechanical non-motive principle,like Hector's transverter , to change  : in practical !

Power factor and inrush phase to differ between grid source and closed battery/capacitor circuit,when then negative PF is also called : feedback !

Kanarevs 'pulse power' measurement compared 'inrush phase power' measurement !



Battery action/reaction time versus ultra/super-/capacitor reaction/action time !
Wmax per second comparison !

Steinmetz circuit ! N.Tesla lost when Steinmetz left the Tesla-Steinmetz partnership !

Sincere
OCWL
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: AlienGrey on January 25, 2021, 07:21:59 AM
Well see if this MOTOR-vats you  here we have soap opera Coronation street there was a character Ena Sarples one episode she got stuck up a telegraph pole rescuing a kitten, fire-man comes along and looks up and says oh look a hi-Ena!
ber bum!

HA HA!

Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on January 25, 2021, 02:30:35 PM
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=ev+gray+motor (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=ev+gray+motor)  ?

Gray developed an 80 hp electric automobile engine that kept its batteries charged continuously.


electric drive performance for mobile vehicles increase ? Or home in-situ power plants ?

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=12&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20050516&CC=ES&NR=2232313A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=12&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20050516&CC=ES&NR=2232313A1&KC=A1#)



1922-07-21 ancient enough ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=FR&NR=540979A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19220721&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=FR&NR=540979A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19220721&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on January 28, 2021, 09:43:53 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martians (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martians)
5 + 1  ::) : N.Tesla in his life end felt himself also martianic  ;)
Much from the overunity-free energy HV/HF devices are same/similar the atom bomb " chain reaction moderator" :
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on January 29, 2021, 11:42:22 AM
Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share : https://overunity.com/14013/reactive-generator-research-for-everyone-to-share/ (https://overunity.com/14013/reactive-generator-research-for-everyone-to-share/)

NOTE: luc sold out, so he discourages everyone at the end of the thread before he locked it.
Title: Re: Real overunity transformer with ancient technology
Post by: lancaIV on January 29, 2021, 11:53:10 AM
Quote from: NdaClouDzzz on January 29, 2021, 11:42:22 AM
Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share : https://overunity.com/14013/reactive-generator-research-for-everyone-to-share/ (https://overunity.com/14013/reactive-generator-research-for-everyone-to-share/)

NOTE: luc sold out, so he discourages everyone at the end of the thread before he locked it.

But it is worth at first to read and understand : #155 !
Then from topic begin to #155 !
DC,pulsed DC and AC right measurement and from others same scheme repeat and same/similar results !

Sincere
OCWL