After reading all those posts, it seems that all that devices are working on same principle.
Kapanadze, Steven Mark, Akula..., Only Floyd device differs, but not much if I discard conditioning of magnets,
which can be illussion for stupid to stay stupid...
Something we missed, and is quite simple.
It is related to coil capacitor and resonant circuit.
It was a challenge to read thousands of posts from different topics,
and amusing, sort of.
AND PLEASE KIND SIR WHAT PRINCIPLES?
Quote from: seychelles on March 15, 2021, 07:53:38 AM
AND PLEASE KIND SIR WHAT PRINCIPLES?
Isn't he the guy one gets hauled across for poor marks at the college or Uni befor getting chucked out ;D ;D
Years ago when i was a school youth my step mother knew a guy from work, an electronics factory of telephone equipment
the guy was a keen armature in the short wave radio hobbyist met him once being into electronics he showed me
at a meeting this radio rig with just a small output valve 5 Watts or so with a complicated tank coil close on the alloy container
what he found amusing was disconnecting the aerial and connecting 100w bulb to one end and sticking an insulated screw driver
on the spare end it lit to what looked like a blinding full brightness. I never saw him after that he aberrantly retired elsewhere.
SIL
Quote from: AreYouSure? on March 15, 2021, 12:33:55 AM
After reading all those posts, it seems that all that devices are working on same principle.
Kapanadze, Steven Mark, Akula..., Only Floyd device differs, but not much if I discard conditioning of magnets,
which can be illussion for stupid to stay stupid...
Something we missed, and is quite simple.
It is related to coil capacitor and resonant circuit.
It was a challenge to read thousands of posts from different topics,
and amusing, sort of.
Start here. Watch all the videoes.
https://www.youtube.com/user/SweetSQM/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/SweetSQM)
Quote from: MasterPlaster on March 15, 2021, 09:39:39 AM
Start here. Watch all the videoes.
https://www.youtube.com/user/SweetSQM/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/SweetSQM)
Yeah done that seen them all a wast of time it's BS
Try translating the STALKER video's Ramasease posted Ram some thing any way 8) ah yes ramset, that's it, memory isn't what it use to be ;D ;D
Oh yeah how's your rusky lingo translating going ?
PS is one of those (These people are come over by Gullam syndrome!) it's one of them Sporney eyed wasacks from up north.
Do you know what golden ratio is ? try that idea
AG,
You have me confused with someone else.
By the way, I am starting to work on the Chinese oscillator that you put on another thread.
Just today I received the transistors from China. Maybe they make them better!
Quote from: AreYouSure? on March 15, 2021, 12:33:55 AM
After reading all those posts, it seems that all that devices are working on same principle.
Kapanadze, Steven Mark, Akula..., Only Floyd device differs, but not much if I discard conditioning of magnets,
which can be illussion for stupid to stay stupid...
Something we missed, and is quite simple.
It is related to coil capacitor and resonant circuit.
It was a challenge to read thousands of posts from different topics,
and amusing, sort of.
Because my technologic orientation is " capacitive coil/wiring" related,and 2008-2010 to 2021 there was a capacitor price decrease about/over 90%,I do not see barrier in low cost "capacitive coil generator" production ( in near future) !
Quote from: MasterPlaster on March 15, 2021, 11:41:16 AM
AG,
You have me confused with someone else.
By the way, I am starting to work on the Chinese oscillator that you put on another thread.
Just today I received the transistors from China. Maybe they make them better!
I wouldn't bank on it. So regarding the Ferrox what did you use for that especially the
3 blanking plates he glues on the top of the two E Cores ?
here is a photo of my cat inspecting my winding
I suspect it might be a problem getting it to work as I can't see how it can possibly
produce a standing wave the way it is made ?? Golden ratio 1 2 3 5 8 ect but it's not set up or wound like that, and frequency has to be exact in every detail.
SIL
Quote from: AlienGrey on March 15, 2021, 03:35:30 PM
I suspect it might be a problem getting it to work as I can't see how it can possibly
produce a standing wave the way it is made ?? Golden ratio 1 2 3 5 8 ect but it's not set up or wound like that, and frequency has to be exact in every detail.
Not so fast. I am still collecting bits and pieces but your first post of your oscillator showed a clean 65k sine wave. I wanted to build and check that because I was expecting the mixture of two frequencies.
Regards
MB
well what ever the frequency is if you divide it by 4 you get the peeks of energy the rest is useless as thats where you need the current
to be in phase. cold energy is the fly back of just voltage with no current so to get current you need to store it in capacitors.
So if the speed of light is aprox 300, 000,000 meters per second so if we devide it by by the wire length and then by 4 the energy peeks, then
we get the frequency of resonance or should do aproximatly. But that doesn't give you free energy but we are pointing at where
our peek power is, there is far more to it than that from an eductional point of view. the usefull power is at a 1/4 wave.
But note each time you double the frequency you half the power going into each peek so if you imagine using a full
bridge rectifier you invert the lower peeks to the top DC wave you lose the negative peeks so no gain ;D ;D
SIL
SIL,
Thank you for revelations which I am looking in to deeply.
Can you tell me why you selected that ferrite? The choice of ferrite can have a significant effect on the result.I mean the BH curve.
MB
Quote from: AlienGrey on March 15, 2021, 03:35:30 PM
I wouldn't bank on it. So regarding the Ferrox what did you use for that especially the
3 blanking plates he glues on the top of the two E Cores ?
Is this what you're after?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/62mm-Rectangular-Ferrite-Antenna-Bar-AM-MW-LW-Radio-Loopstick-Core/120852688164?hash=item1c2361ad24:g:Id0AAOSwZ-Ve4MNL
Well if i use am radio slab ferrite bar it will be different quality to the E section
I can buy the other half of the other E so i might as well use them as it will be fare easyer
to cut or grind as aerial ferrox is real hard to cut from that period in time besides the amount of
power I use is quite low and I have 4 powere solar cells to hand.
Thanks for the info any way
AG
I don't want to pretend that I know it all but this part of the design seems to be a voltage-fed Royer oscillator.
The first part (E13003s) is a high frequency astable , modulated by this part.
If you have a high resolution copy of the schematic please send it as I can't read the number of the turns.
Do you have MS Paint it helps
AG,Thank you, That is a lot better.
What do you think about the transformer winding of 14 and 14 turns?
It is not simply shown as 28 turns.
Ask Jed he had a pointer to a tread on youtube with some films
China-Kapa Main coil dimensions
China Kapa - ferrite core partA
China-Kapagen - Winding ferrite transformer
China kapa Main coil winding partB
China Kapa Ferrite core partB
China-Kapagen - Winding ferrite transformer i think its this one you want.
Thanks AG. I have seen all those videos. My curiosity is over the configuration shown in the schematic.
Notice that 14 + 14 = 28 which is 56/2
Well i can only imagine the one coil goes over the top of the driven CT coil and the other goes underneath it
Perhaps its wound the opposite way like bucking coils and creates some sort of vortex, (112/ 28 is 1/4 wave),
it needs some experimentation as captions haven't been enabled.
Quote from: AlienGrey on March 17, 2021, 06:17:22 PM
Well i can only imagine the one coil goes over the top of the driven CT coil and the other goes underneath it
Perhaps its wound the opposite way like bucking coils and creates some sort of vortex, (112/ 28 is 1/4 wave),
it needs some experimentation as captions haven't been enabled.
You can only imagine how it works, me included.
But you never question that capacitor in high field of tesla coil has only capacitive component,
while bifilar coil (capacitor) have inductive + capacitive component.
Your experienced aye in a field of electronics never saw that aspect.
And when you say its nothing, it must be fact, and must not be questioning.
But, yet it does work in a ways which can not be explained with classic, your way of presenting of fields behavior.
I am not here to defend anything,
but if I with much more less experience than you was able to see difference,
than I can only say good luck in your quest my friend!
Stay well!
Quote from: AreYouSure? on March 20, 2021, 08:21:53 PM
You can only imagine how it works, me included.
But you never question that capacitor in high field of tesla coil has only capacitive component,
while bifilar coil (capacitor) have inductive + capacitive component.
Your experienced aye in a field of electronics never saw that aspect.
And when you say its nothing, it must be fact, and must not be questioning. (((No if i sa 'I' some one else might see something else I don't))).
But, yet it does work in a ways which can not be explained with classic, your way of presenting of fields behaviour. ((be aware all you see might
not be all they want you to see))
I am not here to defend anything,
but if I with much more less experience than you was able to see difference, i'm not here to judge but I might have learned stuff others
curse at me for beind different in my view of things))
than I can only say good luck in your quest my friend!
Stay well!
Be aware you can't have sections of a wave when multiplying or transposing or dividing between nodes
you wont get anywhere if you do. There are some here who think they are god's or celebrity kings but don't they have to protect
that image trust no one.
The Chinese guy makes 3 segments around the core.
The middle contains the center tapped coil.
He next feeds the 28 turn coil in the middle and winds 14 turns 1st section and then, 14 turns in the third section.
Note that he uses Litz coil for all windings.
Even so, I don't have enough confidence to start replicating this.
I'm a bit lost, what's special about that schematic? It looks like a resonant DC to DC converter. Similar to this http://www.seekic.com/circuit_diagram/Power_Supply_Circuit/MOSFET_resonant_DC___DC_converter_circuit_diagram.html (http://www.seekic.com/circuit_diagram/Power_Supply_Circuit/MOSFET_resonant_DC___DC_converter_circuit_diagram.html) except he's using an oscillator. Seems counter intuitive because the oscillator would have to be tuned to the resonant frequency of the mosfets driving the transformer.
Aside from that, he's stepping up the voltage and filtering it at 220v. Nothing looks special about the transformers, so is this expected to produce OU?
Why not just use a cheap ZVS to drive a transformer, then rectify that?
Quote from: AlienGrey on March 23, 2021, 10:12:07 AM
Be aware you can't have sections of a wave when multiplying or transposing or dividing between nodes
you wont get anywhere if you do. There are some here who think they are god's or celebrity kings but don't they have to protect
that image trust no one.
I am not talking about stuff you do.
As I read posts from WII about bifilar coil capacitor, which has inductive and capacitive component in a weird combination.
I did few setups with it and saw that strong field of Tesla coil had influence on bifilar coil capacitance component.
In another words, It has more current on output of bifilar coil capacitor, than without presence of Tesla coil field,
while it did not draw additional power from source.
For a source driver I used tuned resonant circuit, which draw a little power on input side.
It can turn inductance into capacitance, but does not respond back via Lenz law,
and does not draw more from primary driver circuit.
And strong field of Tesla secondary affects separation of charges on bifilar coil capacitor in positive way.
All 3 secondaries I wind on single spool, including 1 driving winding, which drives all of them,
where Tesla secondary have 1 role, while bifilar have another.
This is what I was talking about.
First I saw it in posts of ToolOfCortex and later in WII posts, who pointed on ToolOfCortex.
I tried it, and it has potential. I did not found anything new, just tried what was in the posts.
And is fascinating, that something like that did not emerge before, because it is not complicated thing.
Stronger the Tesla secondary coil field, greater the separation of charges on bifilar capacitor coil.
And I don't care what you will answer or anyone else.
Quote from: MasterPlaster on March 15, 2021, 09:39:39 AM
Start here. Watch all the videoes.
https://www.youtube.com/user/SweetSQM/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/SweetSQM)
Best source to understand the principles of ou. But it looks like a pwm to DC converter, during rise time the flux oscillates, the intention is countering back mmf through asymmetric flux linkage, then during T_off, the 2 coils function like a lfuxcap, fighting each others flux decay maintaining emf, when current is permitted in both.
It's possible https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.121.213903
(https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.121.213903https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/flyback-transformer-gap-colin-j-tuck)https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/flyback-transformer-gap-colin-j-tuck (https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.121.213903https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/flyback-transformer-gap-colin-j-tuck)
Quote from: alan on May 20, 2021, 08:26:58 AM
Best source to understand the principles of ou. But it looks like a pwm to DC converter, during rise time the flux oscillates, the intention is countering back mmf through asymmetric flux linkage, then during T_off, the 2 coils function like a lfuxcap, fighting each others flux decay maintaining emf, when current is permitted in both.
It's possible https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.121.213903
(https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.121.213903https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/flyback-transformer-gap-colin-j-tuck)https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/flyback-transformer-gap-colin-j-tuck (https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.121.213903https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/flyback-transformer-gap-colin-j-tuck)
Both your URL links above say 'Not found' if you click on them. But you can copy and paste the text of the link and it will work. Might want to fix that.
try copy paste, the hyperlinks both contain both urls somehow :)
Steven's toroid does not contain a magnet......
No one knows ! but it probably doesn't have a magnet.
100%----NO MAGNETS!
they just deceive us......
This has been known for a long time. Do you have new facts?
Mark + Shinichi seike ....excellent result!...trust me.
Marks and Shinichi Seike :
the Seike magneton-converter or generation set ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?AB=&AP=&CPC=&DB=EPODOC&IC=&IN=shinichi+seike&PA=&PD=&PN=&PR=&ST=advanced&Submit=Search&TI=&bcId=1&locale=en_EP&page=1&return=true (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?AB=&AP=&CPC=&DB=EPODOC&IC=&IN=shinichi+seike&PA=&PD=&PN=&PR=&ST=advanced&Submit=Search&TI=&bcId=1&locale=en_EP&page=1&return=true)
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/gseamnu.htm
http://www.rexresearch.com/seike/seike.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/seike/seike.htm)