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Title: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 24, 2023, 05:35:53 PM
Hello folks I wanted to share this with you all. I think it works great, thanks!

This method allows to run a 15 watt lamp with just an input drive of 60 hertz 40ma.

https://youtu.be/pr4t4JKPkYM

We can't make energy out of nothing. With that said we can find methods to use very little input source so we don't have to put in  much work or money wise to get operating. This lamp driver does just this.

I use a current reactive limiter on the mains 60 hertz power line or any other source of 60 hertz 110 volts power, Your generator, Your windmill etc....

The current limiter as per ohms law x= 1/2*3.14fc
I = v/x

So 60 hertz with around 1uf gives us about 40 ma of current only!

We use the mostly pure voltage to quickly charge a 10uf or more capacitor. With very little current input. The capacitor has an SCR diode that is triggered to dump this cap into an additional super capacitor bank a few times a second we get a pure 100 volt capacitive joule or amps per second discharge. This pumping also has an electret like effect while being pulsed as such. An additional advantage of also using a super capacitor bank is the elimination of the high impedance battery charging stage needing more current.

So basically the 12 volt super capacitor bank takes this form of converted negative energy from the reactance box and capacitor high voltage pules. back into a form of regular low voltage higher current DC positive energy  that is able to drive a very small very high efficiency high frequency AC inverter.

This inverter drives a 15 watt lamp no problem  because its high frequency. The 15 watt lamp operates at full spec lumens usually requiring an input of 15 watts. We are driving it with only an input that we need to pay for of 40ma.

The rest of the needed input is being provided by the local vacuum. And clever circuitry. Not a trick or a cheat for free energy bypass of the electric "smart" meter.  . The whole circuit except respectfully, the super capacitor stage. operates as an open looped system so it can re gauge itself.

Not only does the lamp operate at full capacity in this fashion. The voltage keeps rising on the super capacitor bank as it keeps getting many discharges of 100 volts a second from that 10+ uf capacitor dump simultaneously.  I'm actually needing to load this more with some time as the super capacitor bank can only handle around 13.5 volts. As you see from the meter the charge holds and even goes up instead of down as the super caps do a super job at converting this kind of power back into something useful!

I must point out that this lamp would not operate directly connected to the reactance X output of only 40ma! It requires 15 watts of input current at 60 hertz. We are not providing anything close to this level with this intentional current limiter stage. But at the end we are able to light bright and sustain the system with very little input drive from the operator work wise or money wise. No free lunch. Just efficient.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: Dog-One on January 25, 2023, 01:57:08 AM
Quote from: joellagace on January 24, 2023, 05:35:53 PM
Hello folks I wanted to share this with you all. I think it works great, thanks!

Pretty neat Joel!

Would you mind scratching out a basic schematic for those that may want to replicate your results?  Something that can be printed on paper for a later time should Internet access become limited.

As energy costs continue to increase, I have a hunch many folks would like to cobble together this circuit of yours with parts they may have laying around.

Thanks much for your effort and sharing what you have accomplished.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 05:37:17 AM
Sure I have it on my youtube. It's called "Free Energy Generation Using The Electric Company"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVMpQQugA-0

This is the big part and important circuit. Simple but critical. The X factor reactive box that drops the current usage from the 60 hertz 110 volts to just 40ma. A kind of current gate or limiter so to speak without wasting any energy needing to pay for heating resistance to "drop" a load.  The key is to not have to use or use very little current to achieve interesting results.

For this demo the only thing I changed is instead of charging a set of batteries, Those got eliminated and replaced by a 12 volt super capacitor bank. (more efficient storage) This bank simply runs one of those ebay cheep Chinese high frequency inverters feeding the 15 watt lamp.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: citfta on January 25, 2023, 08:41:39 AM
Hi Joelagace,


It's nice to see a new member on the forums.  Your circuit is interesting but as was explained to you on OUR it is not a good idea.  That circuit would be severely frowned upon by the electric utility and probably illegal in many places.  What your circuit does is introduce a strongly reactive component back into the power grid.  All commercial appliances are tested to make sure they do NOT add a strongly reactive component back into the power grid.  Granted if only you were using this circuit they would probably not even notice the reactive component.   But if enough devices like yours were connected to the grid it could cause problems for the generating plant as reactive components can cause very high voltages to appear at the generating source.  By posting this circuit you are putting yourself in a position to have legal action taken against you and or any forum you post it on.


Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 09:10:40 AM
If your so worried about the electric company and I also note this, use your own source of AC. A windmill a generator ,solar inverter. Go nuts. I'm all about the research and this circuit does not bother me for legal issues. I guess if your that worried about it complain to youtube and facebook and everywhere else its hosted now?

I'm really getting annoyed with the OUR forums. Seems like when you get to a level with this kind of research people just no longer understand once you mature to a certain level, I was about to say my farewell to the OUR group anyways. It was short lived and the folks out there really didn't get it from a  research stand point. Again I know at lease basic ohms law.

Take care and enjoy my circuits!
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 09:16:13 AM
If your worried about reactance you can do the same thing with a flyaback dollar store fly zapper connected to a 1.5 volt supply. With less than 50ma as well. You get 1kc spark gap. I feed this gap into a microwave transformer connected in reverse and rectify the low voltage side to DC pulses and it charges batteries and super caps the same darn way with the same amount of current. Just though i'd offer a way of doing it with less parts and more simple and without a HV spark gap!

Food for thought.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 09:20:00 AM
I also run inverters to isolate some projects from the mains but I still need "mains". I tested reactance and it works fine with even cheep inverters! So have at it!
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: citfta on January 25, 2023, 09:42:32 AM
Hi again.  As I said you have a nice circuit and it is very efficient.  But you asked for an explanation as to why others have suggested it was not a good idea to connect it to mains power.  And I have tried to give you that explanation.  I agree that connected to an inverter or other source of AC it is a good way be charge batteries or light lamps.  Please don't be discouraged by some of the comments.  Unfortunately you will find that on any forum there will always be the naysayers.  Good luck in your search for free energy.


Again, respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 09:53:20 AM
Yeah and for some reason all those naysayers are the Tesla Coil expert specialists builders complaining about the potential safety issues with my circuits. insinuating its so "bad" its a liability even for the host to allow it?? Strange coming from them. You would think,. I guess you could say the very same to them no? What if everyone started to build and use tesla coils and ran them from the mains? Would that not become troublesome all the potential backEMF for the electric company? I know you can minimize and filter etc but things can indeed go wrong with the slight issue here! Every coil builder knows!!! But we talk about Tesla coils and the construction and methods all the time! This can really kill you? Not a liabiliy for the host? Double standards. More like they didn't come up with the idea first so they got to poo poo all over it lol. Because... Is that not how Tesla accidently blow up a power plant doing this? So even the top expert can sometimes "Screw" up with these coils, Does that mean that all Tesla coil and tesla coil PSU units be removed from hosting because you know should be a risk right?

Just pointing out what I feel is a double standard.

Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: ramset on January 25, 2023, 10:09:09 AM
Joel
40 MA in 15 Watts out is miraculous !


Here in open source research forums ( you will notice no advertisements on either forum)


We need to be absolutely sure ( 100 %) that such a circuit does not cost utility company
In any way !
Your sincerity is commendable!
Our concerns are to our hosts ..and not bringing problems their way ... zero budget for problems !
Actually such issues could be shoehorn towards major legal issues at this small venue!


And quite certain the legal team at big venues (you tube etc) would hold themselves harmless with their terms of service agreements ( and their ten deep legal teams would surely make certain costs went to presenter )


Are you 100% certain this miracle is completely provable ( legal and not grid dependent?( no cost to grid ?)
As example many countries still have single wire earth return grid systems,
Funny things can happen unaware with an all encompassing grid !
Once watched a man weld with just a "staked ground cable" out in a field !
He had one buried hot Cable ( on a knife switch in shop) and just hammered in a ground
To weld in the field


However
We sure need this and all the variations !


I would run towards scrutiny...to be certain!
PLEASE!!

Respectfully
Chet K


Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: Dog-One on January 25, 2023, 10:26:28 AM
Quote from: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 05:37:17 AM
Sure I have it on my youtube. It's called "Free Energy Generation Using The Electric Company"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVMpQQugA-0

Got it!

Thank you Joel.

Posting here for those who would like to print it and have it handy should/when the lights go out.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 10:27:28 AM
The idea is not to fool or trouble the mains, It's just a method one of many of my methods to limit your current input usage so you don't have to pay much for the input as not much is needed if you build your circuits and devices around this low current idea. the point is further down the line. The 10uf cap starts to act funny, as in funny it starts acting like a temp electret or something like it when pulsed discharged and continuously recharged. So I took advantage of the 60 hertz to save on having to need a stage to pulse the voltage into this cap with the help of the SCR and neon that maintains this oscillation. This dumps 100 volts a few times a second into a super capacitor bank replacing a traditional battery bank for many added benefits of less circuit resistance and such! The high frequency high voltage 220 volts inverter running at much faster frequency "fools" the lamp into being able to provide its lumens as it would with a 60 hertz 15 watt source at 110 volts. I actually burnt out a few lamps off this tiny inverter!!! But I needed to find a way to limit the current usage to near zero because its way to hot direct from the mains line! the idea is not to use current!

You can do the same with an inverter as the input source or any other local source of 60 hertz AC. or you can even replace the reactive component x factor all together and use a fly zapper oscillator feed it with low current 50ma or less at 1.5 volts DC you get a spark gap 1kv to play with. Pulse that into a MOT in reverse and rectify the low voltage side back into a set of super capacitors does the same darn thing. Just needs more parts and a noisy spark gap. I know I did it. Again the interesting thing happens inside the pulsing caps. And the utilizations of only capacitors and the high frequency inverter. And how the lamp reacts. How you want to feed this system is up to you really. Probably even more methods that I have yet thought of.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 10:44:54 AM
Quote from: Dog-One on January 25, 2023, 10:26:28 AM
Got it!

Thank you Joel.

Posting here for those who would like to print it and have it handy should/when the lights go out.

I must point out that the circuit how ever fine that it works is rather simple and could use some improvements. Such as a sort of protection for those nasty AC mains transients you may run into. Maybe put a 50-100 ohm R in line with one of the AC lines?
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: Dog-One on January 25, 2023, 01:33:58 PM
Quote from: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 10:44:54 AM
I must point out that the circuit how ever fine that it works is rather simple and could use some improvements. Such as a sort of protection for those nasty AC mains transients you may run into. Maybe put a 50-100 ohm R in line with one of the AC lines?

I'm all for improvements, after the basics handle the task at hand.  I have a couple small AC generators I'll likely put upstream of this circuit of yours.  Not worried about the power company getting bent out of shape.  When things go dark, they can worry about my bank not paying them to service a dead line.

So yeah, I like what you've done.  Could probably power quite a few lights with just some small gens using practically no fuel.  That's definitely handy indeed.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: ramset on January 25, 2023, 03:16:28 PM

Dog One
Quote
So yeah, I like what you've done.  Could probably power quite a few lights with just some small gens using practically no fuel.  That's definitely handy indeed.
End quote


Actually I was thinking this type install ( on a teeny tiny genset )




Would be a wonderful path towards proving the claim
Has no effect on mains !


Daisy chain a bunch of lights !
Mili Amps won't bog the genny







Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 04:30:50 PM
Not very scientific at this point but I must point out the reactance thing does work with tiny generators, I tried it with a toy sized hobby PMM generator motor. The frequency you need to watch for as that is how X capacitor is calculated. So if your generator operates at an odd frequency your going to have to calculate some new capacitor value. Or it wont operate as intended.

How ever I have offered some alternatives to get more or less the same results and same current inputs with just a few extra parts and a spark gap stage for those who fear the reactance instead of using the x cap setup.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: Dog-One on January 25, 2023, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: joellagace on January 24, 2023, 05:35:53 PM
The current limiter as per ohms law x= 1/2*3.14fc
I = v/x

So 60 hertz with around 1uf gives us about 40 ma of current only!

Help me out with my math please:

V = 110 (Volts)
F = 60 (Hertz)
I = 0.04 (Amps)
C = 0.000001 (Farads)

X = V / I = 110 / 0.04 = 2750 (Ohms) = (PI  * F * C) / 2 = (PI * 60 * 0.000001) / 2

That doesn't compute.  What have got wrong here?

I was shooting for an equation solving for C, so I'd have that handy as a starting place for which capacitor to use.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 06:03:57 PM
to be honest I just use the math from this site as a basic reference and what I don't get I just punch in online calculators to help me out.

https://circuitdigest.com/electronic-circuits/transformerless-power-supply

So if its not 40ma then what is it? from the chart on that site and all the calculations I run in the calculator for X I find online.  It is indeed going to be a small value what ever it may be. But if there is an error in calculation would be nice to know the specifics.
Thanks
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 09:08:48 PM
High Efficiency Lamp Driver Back EMF Version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ju0WJfpwso

After some criticism over some of my reactive circuits,  I quickly put together this working demonstration that we can do the same thing via other methods, its all about limiting the current to its lowest value we need so we don't have to pay much. the previous x reactance method was just one of the many.

Here I use a low voltage square wave generator that operates at around 5 volts. This triggers a base resistor of NPN transistor to switch my 9 volts battery into a home built 1.9 ohm air core coil, quicky wounded with telephone cable. About 300 feet of it.

We feed the high voltage backEMF with the help of diodes Bedini style and quickly charge a 10uf cap to 100 volts with very little current thanks to the sharp low 10% duty cycle holding back much of the current from leaving that 9 volt battery but in return produce loads of back emf for quick charging and discharging of 10uf capacitor at 100 volts thanks to the SCR neon capacitor dump. We store this charge into a set of 12 volt supercapacitors this gives us steady dc in return enough to run that little high frequency inverter and drive the lamp just fine at its full lumens normally needing 15 watts at 60 hertz AC! It's clear here this little 9 volts can't produce "15" watts on it's own without the help of some additional systems, pulsing, electrets, super caps, high frequency etc... thanks to running the circuit mostly as an open loop.

It's a more complicated circuit but it further proves the concept. What you can do with very little current if you know how to utilize it.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: Dog-One on January 26, 2023, 02:39:03 AM
Quote from: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 06:03:57 PM
to be honest I just use the math from this site as a basic reference and what I don't get I just punch in online calculators to help me out.

https://circuitdigest.com/electronic-circuits/transformerless-power-supply

So if its not 40ma then what is it? from the chart on that site and all the calculations I run in the calculator for X I find online.  It is indeed going to be a small value what ever it may be. But if there is an error in calculation would be nice to know the specifics.

The formula to calculate the capacitor size is as follows:

C = I / (2 * Pi * V * F)

Where V is the mains voltage and F is the mains frequency.  The current I is the level being dropped down to.

So for a U.S. application needing 40ma we get:

C = 0.04 / (2 * Pi * 120 * 60)  =  0.88uF

That works.  So yeah, keep that formula in your head if you need to throw something together in a pinch.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: Dog-One on January 26, 2023, 02:54:00 AM
Quote from: joellagace on January 25, 2023, 09:08:48 PM
High Efficiency Lamp Driver Back EMF Version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ju0WJfpwso

It's a more complicated circuit but it further proves the concept. What you can do with very little current if you know how to utilize it.

Yes, another good one.  Thanks again Joel.   Not quite as portable with the large spool of wire, but it certainly gets the job done.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 26, 2023, 05:50:33 AM
Yeah that was my point, more complicated not as portable but does the "job" for those who want to keep away from reactance.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: Dog-One on January 26, 2023, 07:27:15 AM
Personally, with millions and millions of those little transformerless phone/tablet/USB chargers doing the same thing, I think the reactance horse has already left the barn.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 26, 2023, 08:55:58 AM
Quote from: Dog-One on January 26, 2023, 07:27:15 AM
Personally, with millions and millions of those little transformerless phone/tablet/USB chargers doing the same thing, I think the reactance horse has already left the barn.

Yeah but it still upsets some people so bad for some reason, Almost offended,  This moderator from another forum has been up my A** over it in some other forum I shared this on, as far as locking up my topics So by nature I go other places, Not only one place talk about this stuff it is the www. And  he posts here and makes a statement about the OUR site he is on as being some kind of "Super" no profit org. That everyone wants to sue.  No Buddy its some guy that owns a domain and pays probably for cheep shared hosting and hosts a simple forum. Not that there is anything wrong with that but please don't act like this gives you the power to censor a "project" you don't agree with in other groups and communities your in! I respect his position of authority out in the OUR forums and have not picked a fight. I simply walked away and shared my info else where. Thank you! But It's not enough He goes on here tells folks trying to insinuate to this form that my circuit is a lability for their hosts as well and its not a good idea to even post or talk about it. But from the reading I been doing here, That specific user has been on here on these forms as well doing similar things with other people, I see some huge locked tread a few posts down here  that's been going on for years as an example, I won't even bring up the link as its become infamous but yeah you got this specific user arguing with people or challenging them or something.

And I was like ok this guy is thinking and complaining about safety and liability? Meanwhile I'm thinking of all the Tesla Coil builders and backEMF and all that, Double standards lol. These are high voltage PSU units that plug into the mains and can kill and really do harm to the electrical company if one does not know what they are doing with Tesla coils. Meanwhile the site has its own Tesla section to talk about and that's 100% fine lol. I can read between the lines here and understand why some poo poo all over it unfortunately. So I offered a quick solution to those who complain at the reactance. Using Back EMF and a big coil instead.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: ramset on January 26, 2023, 09:43:19 AM
Joel
Image below is only response to your new topic at overunity research forum.
One of several topics you started shortly after joining!

Here in its entirety the comment from a forum which was already threatened by a lawsuit
do to A members post !


Action had to be taken to keep the forum open !


Here things are equally as vulnerable!


You have many open topics at above forum untouched!
Sorry if another persons liability offends you.
Perhaps  start a blog ?


Btw
I am still waiting to hear back from Peter at Forum
As mentioned he works away from home weeks at a time .


Sincerely
Chet
Ps
Edit for comment below!
These few open source forums are precious to long term membership
As well they are vulnerable ( here also lawsuit threats modify forum
Into Compliance with laws and owners personal liabilities !


Edit for additional comment below
Violation of terms of service agreements are "self moderation "


However
Even at overunity research your post has not been deleted !




Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 26, 2023, 10:10:29 AM
I think this guy is just on a power trip and trying to somehow scare and threaten this site as well! I get it guy! You can't please everyone. You don't like it you don't agree with it and most don't understand it. I'm sorry about that. So I moved to another community and why must you follow me here in another place all together and keep bringing this up like your doing us somehow a good Samaritan move to warn everyone about my posts and that this host and every other hosts should take action because somehow you have an issue with it and still do as obviously you don't understand and insist on some talking points you keep bringing up as the reason of your logic,  that don't make any sense to me! Anyways I don't want to argue with you. That is why I came here to share my circuits in another community where they may be better appreciated and understood.

Still odd your pushing the whole "Safety" thing and doing so at it, as going into other forms and sites to warn people? With these screenshots and such! Don't you have any other things better to do?  :(

If for some strange reason the admin team of this site deletes my posts what good does that do to you personally at the end? just wondering.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: citfta on January 26, 2023, 11:33:08 AM
Joel,


I had just about decided to not reply to anymore of your posts.  But you keep claiming that no one understands your circuit.  That is absolutely NOT true.  Most of us on these forums have worked in electronics for many many years.  I made a very good living repairing highly complex industrial machine tools.  I have worked in electronics for over 60 years.  I highly try to encourage others to also explore and learn about electronics.  But I also try to caution people when they are doing something that may get them into trouble.  Legal action was in fact taken against OUR in the past for something posted by one of the members.  Chet is not making that up.


I don't want to bash you in any way because I admire your enthusiasm.  But your ignorance about electronics is clearly evident in some of the posts you have made.  Ignorance does NOT mean stupidity.  Ignorance just means you have more to learn.  I want to encourage you to look for some good online electronic classes and start studying.  Youtube videos are made many times by people that don't know what they are talking about so avoid trying to get an education that way.


As an example of you not understanding deeper electronics I saw in your last video that you said that circuit used back EMF and avoided reactance.  Not true at all.  The reactance of the coil is what gave you the inductive kickback that you are harvesting.  And that basic circuit of powering a coil and then collecting the inductive kickback has been around for probably over 75 years or more.  The little tiny boost modules you can buy on Ebay work in the exact same way.  They use a smaller coil and just fire it more often to reach the higher voltages.  And they have a feed-back circuit to adjust the pulses so as to keep the output voltage steady under changing load conditions.


As I said I do admire your enthusiasm and I would be glad to help you if you would like to really dig deeper into electronics. 


Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 26, 2023, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: citfta on January 26, 2023, 11:33:08 AM
Joel,


I had just about decided to not reply to anymore of your posts.  But you keep claiming that no one understands your circuit.  That is absolutely NOT true.  Most of us on these forums have worked in electronics for many many years.  I made a very good living repairing highly complex industrial machine tools.  I have worked in electronics for over 60 years.  I highly try to encourage others to also explore and learn about electronics.  But I also try to caution people when they are doing something that may get them into trouble.  Legal action was in fact taken against OUR in the past for something posted by one of the members.  Chet is not making that up.


I don't want to bash you in any way because I admire your enthusiasm.  But your ignorance about electronics is clearly evident in some of the posts you have made.  Ignorance does NOT mean stupidity.  Ignorance just means you have more to learn.  I want to encourage you to look for some good online electronic classes and start studying.  Youtube videos are made many times by people that don't know what they are talking about so avoid trying to get an education that way.


As an example of you not understanding deeper electronics I saw in your last video that you said that circuit used back EMF and avoided reactance.  Not true at all.  The reactance of the coil is what gave you the inductive kickback that you are harvesting.  And that basic circuit of powering a coil and then collecting the inductive kickback has been around for probably over 75 years or more.  The little tiny boost modules you can buy on Ebay work in the exact same way.  They use a smaller coil and just fire it more often to reach the higher voltages.  And they have a feed-back circuit to adjust the pulses so as to keep the output voltage steady under changing load conditions.


As I said I do admire your enthusiasm and I would be glad to help you if you would like to really dig deeper into electronics. 


Respectfully,
Carroll

Now your just mixing my words lol first of all everyone knows by avoiding reactance I mean a circuit that uses mains and such circuit as ppl where complaining about that issue specific "how dare I connect a reactance circuit to the grid".., We can't avoid reactance in a coil I'm not stupid,  why do you think I make a point of specify that it's 1.9 ohms! yeah so stop complaining and making things up please.
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: citfta on January 26, 2023, 12:46:31 PM
1.9 ohms is NOT the reactance.  1.9 ohms is the resistance.  The reactance is determined by the inductance of the coil and the applied frequency.  It's pretty obvious you aren't interested in learning real electronics so good luck with your Youtube education.


Bye

Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 26, 2023, 12:49:37 PM
LOL you keep saying I'm wrong, inductance has resistance lol you can't have an inductor with no resistance, A wire has resistance and is considered an inductance.

Look, This is getting a little annoying, Being followed around by these 2 users here that keep nagging on my circuit and apparent lack of understanding in electronics,

I mean if these various FE and Over-Unity community forums groups etc. Where real life communities one would say this would be considered stalking behavior, I think they call it "Trolling" in the digital world. It's just getting a little wired that those two are so hung up that they have to follow me on every online community I got to post these devices and nag or as they say "point out". Enough please.

If IM apparently so ignorant with my circuits and understanding of basic electronics why don't you stop wasting your big brain efforts on bashing and put downs and instead come up with something much better as to what I got going here. 40ma in and 15 watts out this works. The last circuit I did on the fly in one hour to prove a point without following any schematic as I know what I'm doing! And it shows the devices operate! , But everything has room for improvements so again if you two are so much smarter and have been in the electronic industry as expert for years lets see what you can come up with in one hour that works better. Heck if you do come up with something, Congrats its everyone's benefits if you tell us how it operates. Man kind needs this kind of thing right now. Even better if you two are that much smarter how about working on suggestions on how to make what I have here work even better!
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: ramset on January 26, 2023, 01:25:39 PM
Joel
Read your post 23 in this thread.
Nobody is following you ... your telling some story about me ..
Which is not accurate!


we are all searching for the same reason !
Again below is sum total of our exchange prior to your post 23 invitation to me at this
Forum!


Sincerely
Chet K


Edit for comment below
Open source community needs research builders
Here there are thousands with experience..


If as you say in a previous post
Joel
Quote
The rest of the needed input is being provided by the local vacuum. And clever circuitry.
End quote


This desperately needs eyes on if accurate !
As already mentioned !
Run towards scrutiny ..




Anybody who carries water for cause and shares open source
Is the back bone of FE research


Yes they will look for reasons to stop us ( easy reasons)
And unfortunately here our hosts are vulnerable !


We almost lost one forum do to a members contributions !
And many times" here " things have been averted!


Actually
I really like your work..
You have required boldness...and zeal!
Respectfully
Chet

Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 26, 2023, 01:27:46 PM
Actually do you have anything factual to say that can help my circuit, Other then repeating yourself?  If not go away please, We get it by now. You don't like me or my circuits,
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: stivep on January 26, 2023, 01:55:21 PM
Quote from: joellagace on January 26, 2023, 12:49:37 PM
LOL you keep saying I'm wrong, inductance has resistance lol you can't have an inductor with no resistance, A wire has resistance and is considered an inductance.//
// stop wasting your big brain efforts I got going here. 40ma in and 15 watts out this works.


Technical language and terminology:
It is unfortunate, but criticism you are experiencing has its own merit.
Your fantasy and imagination while trying to talk to us, is not always convincing ... due to the a direct conflict
with physics, and basic electronics.You are sharing your experience with some pretty much   experienced and advanced members of this form.
Technical language and terminology used by you, impacts the quality of your interaction and it is nothing wrong with being troubled, scrutinized, judged or analyzed.

Your device looks nice, It is a pulser charging bank of capacitors.
There is no flickering due to discharge curve of capacitor.
No gain of any kind,
If you have a 0.5A load, multiplying 9V by 0.5A gives you 4.5 watts.
If you have a 1A load, multiplying 9V by 1A gives you 9 watts.
https://portablepowerguides.com/how-many-amps-is-a-9-volt-battery/ (https://portablepowerguides.com/how-many-amps-is-a-9-volt-battery/)

Suggestion:
You may change the big coil with a small one winded with gauge 28

To compare side by side:
with yet another 15W LED lightbulb  but now powered from the 110V please use 40 years old cheap light intensity meter .used in photography .
You can get it for about $5 visiting some flea-market.
Everyone has a lot of value, we not good enough to know and/or understand.

We are not against you.
I'm not immune here too.
If I start to talk in language that for them looks like a nonsense, this community will eat me in few seconds.

Wesley
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 26, 2023, 02:05:37 PM
I just measured the load on my battery to be no more then 80ma it varies from 70 to 80 on the meter. About the language, I understand, As most can also understand from hearing my accent in these videos English is not my native language, sometimes I make a bad tongue twister like ill say "Reactive instead of reactance, Or make some odd spelling mistake on a term. I'm sorry about that. lol it's not to make anyone feel bad it's just the way it is and sometimes it does hinder communications I admit that much!
Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: Kator01 on January 26, 2023, 03:12:13 PM





Hello Joellagace,


welcome to this forum.


a capacitor in series with a rectifier bridge with a load connected is not pumping  power back into the grid ( strongly reactive component )


This circuit does it:


https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/capacitor/cap_8.html


These LED-Driver-Circuit a used widely - I would guess in billions of LED-Lamps worldwide


https://theorycircuit.com/led-tube-light-driver-circuit/


quote by Cifta:


"What your circuit does is introduce a strongly reactive component back into the power grid.
All commercial appliances are tested to make sure they do NOT add a strongly reactive component back into the power grid."


This accusation is exaggerated, as your 1 myF capacitor is a frequency dependent resistor in series to a load and only feeds back a very small power  into grid if it is running idle by disconnecting the load after the rectifier-bridge which no one does. Any fridge has a much more reactive component.


How many fridges and how many LED-Lamps are running wordwide ?


I myself have torn down more than a hundred of these LED-Lamps which I collected form the dump in order to find the cause why they failed.
Today the manufactures have other means for driving LED- or filament-Lamps which contain chips after the rectifier which can handle the full
rectified Voltage level of 325 Volt ( 230 V AC grid in Europe ) the don't use the current limiting capacitor, the chip does it internally.


Here you can read about this simple circuit in the wikipedia., its used en masse.Scroll down to "example" there you see these cheap circuit board.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitive_power_supply


Dont be discouraged but pay attention to the warnings ( not galvanic decoupled and need of a residual circuit-braker )


Mike

Title: Re: High Efficiency Lamp Driver
Post by: joellagace on January 26, 2023, 03:20:35 PM
Thanks Mike and a few others have pointed this out more or less, These people seem hung up on it for some reason. Such negative outlook. Thanks again for trying to clear that up! I know these reactive supplies are used all over these days, common! Concerns of a lawsuit? lol that's just someone on sour grapes! I'm sorry but that's what it is.