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Title: After reading I'm still a little confused......
Post by: Roen Hayden on November 30, 2007, 11:22:11 PM
After reading I'm still a little confused of what exactly is The Aether.  Can someone please explain it in basic terms?  Seems to me its almost supernatural, am i correct on that?

thanks

On a side note every one is very friendly on this forum and is open to every ones ideas thanks again.
Title: Re: After reading I'm still a little confused......
Post by: Grumpy on December 01, 2007, 12:12:19 AM
What? No response?

Ah, what the hell?

Ether - the medium underlying all that is - the substance - the fabric.  Like air or water is a medium for sound.

Title: Re: After reading I'm still a little confused......
Post by: hansvonlieven on December 01, 2007, 12:34:30 AM
G'day all,

Ether or Aether is believed by some to exist. It can be thought of as an all pervading fluid of unimaginable tenuity. It is held by ether theorists that everything including light and radio waves require a medium in order to propagate. In other words they conceive light and radio-waves to be of the same fundamental character as a sonic wave, in other words a pressure wave.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: After reading I'm still a little confused......
Post by: Roen Hayden on December 01, 2007, 08:36:27 PM
So if i may can it be explained like this: The energy behind the universe?
Title: Re: After reading I'm still a little confused......
Post by: hoptoad on December 01, 2007, 08:38:35 PM
Quote from: Roen Hayden on December 01, 2007, 08:36:27 PM
So if i may can it be explained like this: The energy behind the universe?
That it in a nutshell !.........KneeDeep.......
Title: Re: After reading I'm still a little confused......
Post by: Roen Hayden on December 01, 2007, 08:39:34 PM
So to be able to get to it one would have to rip a hole in the universe correct?
Title: Re: After reading I'm still a little confused......
Post by: Rosphere on December 01, 2007, 08:56:29 PM
Quote from: Roen Hayden on December 01, 2007, 08:39:34 PM
So to be able to get to it one would have to rip a hole in the universe correct?
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Title: Re: After reading I'm still a little confused......
Post by: Roen Hayden on December 01, 2007, 09:06:48 PM
Quote from: Rosphere on December 01, 2007, 08:56:29 PM
Quote from: Roen Hayden on December 01, 2007, 08:39:34 PM
So to be able to get to it one would have to rip a hole in the universe correct?
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what is that?
Title: Re: After reading I'm still a little confused......
Post by: Rosphere on December 02, 2007, 01:56:13 AM
Quote from: Roen Hayden on December 01, 2007, 09:06:48 PM
what is that?

It is a fly.  The fly is in the ointment.  You found him.  His name is Metastable.
Title: Re: After reading I'm still a little confused......
Post by: Roen Hayden on December 02, 2007, 12:51:04 PM
Quote from: Rosphere on December 02, 2007, 01:56:13 AM
Quote from: Roen Hayden on December 01, 2007, 09:06:48 PM
what is that?

It is a fly.  The fly is in the ointment.  You found him.  His name is Metastable.

and what does that have to do with this?
Title: Re: After reading I'm still a little confused......
Post by: Rosphere on December 02, 2007, 02:40:36 PM
Quote from: Roen Hayden on December 02, 2007, 12:51:04 PM
Quote from: Rosphere on December 02, 2007, 01:56:13 AM
Quote from: Roen Hayden on December 01, 2007, 09:06:48 PM
what is that?

It is a fly.  The fly is in the ointment.  You found him.  His name is Metastable.

and what does that have to do with this?

It ties in with with my earlier reply to you in one of your other threads:

Quote from: Rosphere on December 01, 2007, 01:45:34 PM
Quote from: Roen Hayden on November 30, 2007, 11:43:42 AM
I have been doing some research into PMMs for about a year now.  I have been reading watching other peoples creations and sometimes I wonder what they were thinking when they built it.  So far the best devience I have seen is the one Sterling D. Allan created.  So my question is what is problem with these devices?  What is the one thing that keeps them from becoming main stream?  I?m 18 years old I sometime in the future plan on building my own.  I think that one day this could work.

Metastability; I think that control is the problem with these metastable machines, like squeezing a wet soap bar.

We are attempting to tap finite amounts of an enormous natural vacuum energy.  It hides behind a thin, yet tough, vial.  There are many ways to do this, (or so I have heard,) but it must be done exactly right.

Today's internal combustion engines are stable: still able to run with a lean or rich fuel/air mixture and only stopping at the extremes to one other stable state: stopped.  Stable-running, easy to control, and forgiving.

Metastable machines are unforgiving, like a woman.  You need to treat them just right to get the performance that you desire.  But if you cross the line, you may experience a life changing event for the worse.  Sort of like a sticky window; hard to budge, yet easy to throw open--do this with the vacuum energy and it will destroy your machine, and maybe even you too.

Some devices, by the nature of their configurations, may offer better control of this metastable condition than others.  We, at the very least, seek to control devices which have a failsafe to a stopped condition if falling out of "tune," or if any one component fails.  Magnet motors appear to offer this quality: runaway acceleration will meet with increased bearing friction before shaft meltdown grinds it all to a stable stop.  We do not expect any crazy EMP type of events with this type of device.

Welcome to the forum, young man.   ;)


I believe that metastability is the fly in the ointment of all energy devices attempting to tap the vacuum energy.  I am sorry that my image has caused you some confusion.  I will try to refrain from posting metaphoric images in the future.  :-[
Title: Re: After reading I'm still a little confused......
Post by: Roen Hayden on December 02, 2007, 03:30:26 PM
Well confusion can be a good thing you can learn from it.