I have attached a diagram from my website that is a design modeled on information about golden boxes electrocuting people that tried to grab them.
They were found in ancient ruins in Egypt. I have also seen heirogliphics
that look just like this machine somewhere on this website. I believe they were power collectors, that may well have been working for thousands of years. I asked a friend of mine who is an Egyptian buff, about these golden boxes, and she remembers something about the Nazis grabbing up a bunch of them in WW2. Probably melted them down for some kinda screwedup Nazi shit. Anyway, it is a shitload easier to build compared to Marks' secret tpu design.I was on the verge of building a tpu with a low voltage orbital current initiator.
I like this energy collector because you don't have to worry about overheating , folding up, rf, kicker coil frequencies, cooking oscillators, and Runaway. If the attractor current in this CEC (cylindrical energy collector) becomes two strong; the magnetic directing shell will start putting the energy straight to ground and inherently regulate it's strength. Take a look, tell me what you think. Should be a real easy scale up.
The above image should have been saved as GIF or other, not as JPG.
Earl
@sparks
It seems a simple idea which is good, do you think its output will be enough to power itself, what is the source of the environmental energy, sunlight?
@Earl
With an image that small it really doesn't make a difference unless you are downloading at 1 bit a second...
A
It has nothing to do with file size and download speed; JPG introduces noise into
a graphics image, which is not seen in photos, but messes up technical drawings.
The poor image quality leaps right off the screen.
It is also of matter of doing things correctly and incorrectly. There is no more time or effort needed to save in GIF, so why not do it correctly?
Earl
Quote from: acerzw on December 21, 2007, 01:50:23 PM
@Earl
With an image that small it really doesn't make a difference unless you are downloading at 1 bit a second...
A
@Earl
I am using windows paint program to make these diagrams. I tried saving one as a tif file and it put all these little squares in the colors. You can see it on my website linked below. It is the one that shows the newly designed tpu at the bottom of the tpu page.
@ Acer
I am not sure what kind of energy this is going to collect. I believe it will capture photons and electrons and possibly ions. What wave forms I'm not sure of. It may even suck in energy frequencies all the way down to rf. My contention is that the tpu and this cec collects energy by creating a tiny sun or a giant electron. The ordered energy inside a guiding magnetic shell. Another thing I don't know is if the magnetic shell does classification of the energy. In other words will different forms of energy migrate in different directions along the magnetic shell and setup a potential between the plates, or will the potential be setup to ground. The earth's magnetic shell seems to do this when you take into consideration that ozone collects over the south pole and hydrogen ions are streaming towards the north pole. I'm going to build one in my electric motor shop and power it up with a variable dc supply I have. I also want to do a little more research on the Egyptian "golden boxes"
Hi Sparks.
Can you show us the original drawing of this device?.
Regards,
Cyrano
You can see this device on my website that is in my signature. I am trying to find time to make this experimental cec.
Quote from: sparks on December 28, 2007, 05:23:43 PM
You can see this device on my website that is in my signature. I am trying to find time to make this experimental cec.
Good ideas. I like your website keepem coming
Quote"The more ordered energy becomes the more energy it will attract".
perhaps : "The more ordered energy becomes the more ordered energy it will attract".
jeanna
Well im off to whip up a "magnetic guiding shell"...
I will be extremely care full not to touch it!
Good luck
@mannix
I have a pretty good handle on how the tpu works. It is as you stated an electron accelerator. Where the actual power in excess of the input power comes from is what I study. I believe as electrons, in the copper of the collector winding, leave their atomic orbitals and join the crowd running around the tpu, they leave behind an atomic structure with a net positive charge. In other words the copper in the collector winding becomes ionized. This positive charge I believe is due to the gravity of the neucleus. And there is alot of this positively charged mass in the copper windings. The accelerated electrons have inertia and go right on by the neuclei, so what happens is the gravitational field these neuclei create, starts to extend beyond the confines of the tpu winding. It is positively charged (more ordered energy form) and will attract negatively charged (less mass or less ordered energy). You can also look at it from an electrical prospective and say that the collector winding becomes a positively charged capacitor conductor, and it is a strongly charged one. It will attract negatively charged matter. Electrons, photons, negative ions, are a few of the energy forms I can think of that will start migrating towards the collector winding/capacitor. Unguided migration of these external energy forms would not only be unable to add to the tpu's orbital electron current but would slow it down or interfere with it's circulation. That is where the magnetic envelope does it's thing. It forces the migrating power scource to follow it's lines of influence (magnetic fields influencing electron migration is nothing new). The dipole nature of the electron energy form causes it to align with the magnetic lines of force. I believe the magnetic field surrounding the tpu is skewed by the near magnetic field of the earth. The electron energy form was already moving pretty quickly before it felt the influence of the tpu gravitational field, (something like an asteroid hitting Earth's gravitational field) and it's kinetic energy now carries it along the magnetic lines of force until it gets to the interior of the tpu. The inertia of the energy form along with meeting energy coming into the tpu interior from the opposite pole and the positive gravitational field of the collector/capacitor, leaves it with no place to go but into the vortex, where it's kintec energy addition to the vortex current gives rise to the TPU's overunity.
The cec I am building will also use the principle of electron acceleration to create a positive attractive potential in a cylinder. Negative energy forms will be drawn towards it but will encounter collector plates. These plates should become charged with negative energy well above Earth potential. The ouput of the plates will be used to drive an electrical load to ground. The energy collected should be well above the power needed to create the attractor configuration and result in overunity.
I will be sure not to touch it I like the way the electrons are assembled in my skin just the way they are. I already built a CEC and it is a strange feeling to be touching a wire and the skin around your finger is getting hotter than the skin touching the wire.
QuoteI believe as electrons, in the copper of the collector winding, leave their atomic orbitals and join the crowd running around the tpu, they leave behind an atomic structure with a net positive charge.Ã, In other words the copper in the collector winding becomes ionized.Ã, This positive charge I believe is due to the gravity of the neucleus.
Stop dreaming man and make a resolution for 2008 to take a freaking class in electrodyanamic physics.Ã, :D LOL
sparks, on your website you have the toroidal power unit illustration,Ã, what do you base that on?Ã, did you read what SM had to say about his device?Ã, It's in the Master of Magnetic thread at top.Ã, You will find he has a different explanation more along the line of "different frequencies combine" to produce a "huge kick" and he talk's about collector and control coils, I don't see any control coils in your illustration.
EM
@EM
I can say for sure that the electrons in the windings under the influence of the kicker coils are moving. They are going so fast that their inertia can be felt in the tpu.
SM makes a point of referring to the gyroscopic effect of the tpu. This current is not your typical electron jump from atom to atom. The tpu doesn't manufacture electrons either. So where did they come from. I would guess the copper of the winding. What's that leave you. Positively charged atomic neuclei. The whole winding becomes a positively charged collector cylinder.
Hi sparks, don't take my messages to seriously it's New Years :)
but..
gyroscopic effect is due to VIBRATION
Collector wire does not charge up with a net charge , if that's what your trying to say.
SM uses the concepts of magnetic induction in the videos. It's not some sort of electrostatic charging up of the collector, like some Van D'Graff generator, which is what I think you're trying to say, but I might be wrong.
EM
Quote from: Earl on December 21, 2007, 04:38:45 PM
It has nothing to do with file size and download speed; JPG introduces noise into
a graphics image, which is not seen in photos, but messes up technical drawings.
The poor image quality leaps right off the screen.
It is also of matter of doing things correctly and incorrectly. There is no more time or effort needed to save in GIF, so why not do it correctly?
Earl
Quote from: acerzw on December 21, 2007, 01:50:23 PM
@Earl
With an image that small it really doesn't make a difference unless you are downloading at 1 bit a second...
A
jpg, and gif are both compression formats. Gif will have better results on images with low amount of colors and gradations, so it would be good for schematics as you suggest. Jpg will be better for high color, gradation images, like photographs. Jpg can be totally adjusted in photoshop and be lossless, such as a tif.
You can also use PNG format, this format is the best of all, compress all images format without removing quality, but the file size are a little bigger then JPG but without any lost in quality.
Quote from: Freezer on December 31, 2007, 09:06:58 PM
Quote from: Earl on December 21, 2007, 04:38:45 PM
It has nothing to do with file size and download speed; JPG introduces noise into
a graphics image, which is not seen in photos, but messes up technical drawings.
The poor image quality leaps right off the screen.
It is also of matter of doing things correctly and incorrectly. There is no more time or effort needed to save in GIF, so why not do it correctly?
Earl
Quote from: acerzw on December 21, 2007, 01:50:23 PM
@Earl
With an image that small it really doesn't make a difference unless you are downloading at 1 bit a second...
A
jpg, and gif are both compression formats. Gif will have better results on images with low amount of colors and gradations, so it would be good for schematics as you suggest. Jpg will be better for high color, gradation images, like photographs. Jpg can be totally adjusted in photoshop and be lossless, such as a tif.
The tpu is very unique in that it isn't your typical atom smashing device but
it runs like one. I believe the electron flow is on the skin of the collector winding. Unlike the electrostatic generators the electrons aren't stored on a collector they are just going so fast their inertia makes them unavailable to the copper atomic structures they were kicked from. This leaves alot of copper atoms with empty valence shells to fill. This gives rise to a positive charge in the copper of the winding. I believe that an electrical positive charge rises from the ordering or concentration of energy within the proton. The neutrons are just unordered energy compared to the proton which is very concentrated energy or one could say well ordered energy. So the protons attract energy. They can't do much with the electrons whirling around the tpu so they go looking elswhere. I believe a number of tpu builders have experienced this "gravity" phenomenon when the tpu really gets cooking.
As far as the magnetic guiding shell goes. SM says that the current flows in the opposite direction south of the equator. I believe this is because the magnetic field enveloping the tpu is skewed differently by the
Earth's vertical magnetic field difference between the two hemispheres.
Well it's 2008. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
@ Sparks & All
I've been searching all over the web trying to find clues about this box and hieroglyphics, I found what I think is the hieroglyph that Sparks mentioned at the beginning of the thread at http://www.thelibraryofhope.com/basketstories2.htm
Do a search in the document for any part of the following quote and you will see the hieroglyph which I've attached to this reply:
"The Ark itself was a small box made of acacia wood, overlaid with gold. It measured 1.15 meters long, 0.7 meters wide and 0.7 meters high. It was carried by two long bars, also made of acacia wood, also overlaid with gold. Apparently, after an ark was constructed in a university lab in the 1970s using the biblical blueprint, and after adding a fruit juice electrolyte, it was found to be too powerful an electric generator to be used safely and was quickly dismantled."
If the above is not just a rumor or speculation would it be possible to find this information and replicate it? Minus the gold of course, unless someone here is able to get a hold of large amounts of gold foil?
I also wonder why anyone would consider this to be "too powerful an electric generator to be used safely" when in modern times we deal with high voltage transmission lines all the way up to nuclear reactors...LOL...either this is a rumor or a direct attempt at suppression of free energy :o
Regards
Paul
Try the Bible
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant
@goat
Thanks for the picture and the time researching. If you read the biblical account of the ark (it should be arc :)) someone got written instructions from a higher power on how to build the ark. If the builder is like any other fabricator he isn't going to build just one of these babies, he is going to build a bunch more and sell them to whoever he can for the highest profit. This gives rise to a whole bunch of these boxes circulating around the mideast. What better way to control an unruly population then give your guy a blueprint to build a device that concentrated a bunch of energy and instructions on how to use it when it was time to get the crowd in order. The ark was said to be used to seperate some river or some body of water that was in the tribes way. If the device could manufacture gravitational fields (what I believe the tpu and cec are able to do) and this capacity diverted the flow of a river causing a body of water to expose some river bed, that would sure as hell be something worth noting. (and it was).
I posted somewhere this weekend on how I believe the tpu starts messing with gravity. I need to get it up on my site but I'll state it again here.
The electrons in the copper winding (the winding could be just a copper or gold can it doesn't have to made out of lamp wire or have a beginning or end) of the tpu are kicked off their atoms by the inductor coils which are wound from the inside of the can to the ouside. By timing when the kick goes off there is an acceleration of these electrons and increase in their numbers which flow around and around (their journey governed by the magnetic field this flow is creating not the physical dimensions of the can). The can just acts as a scource for the electrons. Each successive kick, (and these kicks aren't coming every second or two they are like 1000 kicks a second) puts more electrons in the round circulation and less left in the copper of the can. So the can starts to get real hungry for energy. It starts to get positively charged relative to everything. The electrons getting kicked around the can ain't stopping for anybody because their STORED KINETIC ENERGY is stronger than the can's will to suck those electrons back into atomic orbit. So the protons of the atoms attractor force starts to emanate into the space outside the orbiting electron field. And this attraction is stronger than the attraction of the Earth for whatever free energy happens to be nearby. Earth is barely holding down air. Air is loaded with energy and pressurized air (sound waves,ultra and infra) has even more. Enough to say that there is created an energy sceanario that is way out of wack and the only way that it will reach equilibrium is by slowing that frigging freight train of an electron flow down enough so that some of it's energy will go back to the can atoms. So make the freight train energy go through an external load. And sure enough the freight train lights up some bulbs. But wouldn't that just amount to a flash of the bulbs and then maybe a tiny glow from the energy input of the kicker windings (this only if powered by an external scource). That would be the case unless there is energy flow into the system from EXTERNAL SCOURCES. What the hell besides the electron depleted can is going to attract energy? A sine wave riding the electrical vortex getting shocked here and there? A counter rotating magnetic field? Maybe it is leptons or antiprotons or quarks or leaps or desire a or b or some other shit physicists waste huge amounts of money and time observing and writing incomprehensible mathmatical formulas about so they can get next years grant money, or design a new weapon for some fuckedup military use. What was that bomb they made a while back that killed people but left buildings intact. Nice work boys. Mankind gotta love you for that one. Hope you got paid. gonna need it to buy some love.
Anyway I believe it is the can the collector the attractor that does the work of routing energy into the system. Perhaps it is only a by-product of the systems configuration even then think of the power of being able to produce a gravitational field just where you want it when you want it.
John Hutchison reconstructed the ark of the covenant and his site even has the step by step plans.
http://www.hutchisoneffect.ca/Ark%20Of%20The%20Covenant%20II.html
@ Brahma
Good catch! I somehow missed that link but thanks! It was right on the money as far as John Hutchison's method of construction, very well detailed.
@ Sparks
I agree with a lot of what you say, I've been tempted by the TPU but chose to mess around with the Bedini SSG instead and I've been at it for quite a while now. I thought just one project at a time until I can get it to work (or not) otherwise I'll end up with too many projects and not enough time spent trying to get one of them right, unfortunately I still need to run through more setups as the ones I've gone through aren't over unity yet, but it does make a great battery conditioner, I've even reconditioned AA Alkalyne's to run my digital camera which are taking way too many pictures without dying so it's at least a positive in that sense :)
The TPU seemed too complicated or just not enough information to get it to work but there's certainly been a lot of good information on the theory of how it works which is certainly educational.
The ark however sounds more promising to me in that it can gather quite a charge from the ether, there should be a way to to build an ESD interface as in the Pyramid collector, (see diagram in the the GrandicsIE73.pdf document at
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,695.msg59939.html#msg59939) or even better as you mentioned by just putting a load on the way to ground, so it could be even less complicated.
There's a couple of different variables in this though as it is mentioned as either a battery with fruit juice as an electrolyte and then there's the Tesla coil setup in John Hutchison's design, is there a reason for one or the other? What about just with air as a capacitor?
It seemed kind of odd that on the John Hutchison link they talk about making it with the same low tech that the Egyptians had but then throw two Tesla coils into the mix, where's the plug to put a neon generator fit in the picture here if it's in ancient Egypt....LOL
Anyways I'll keep messing with my Bedini setups while I think about this one, I was already thinking of trying it in a small scale to see if it would work as a battery without becoming lethal like it's mentioned in the information I've read so far :o Maybe starting small is an easier alternative.
Regards
Paul
I am beginning to think that Hutchison is a reencarnate of Tesla. :)
Quote from: Earl on December 21, 2007, 04:38:45 PM
It is also of matter of doing things correctly and incorrectly. There is no more time or effort needed to save in GIF, so why not do it correctly?
Earl
@Earl
You are assuming that the program used to generate the JPEG is also capable of saving or exporting as GIF. This really depends on the users program, and also the users knowledge of the program. Many users are not even aware of the difference between "saving as" and "exporting" features within a graphics program, and are often not familiar with the "export" function at all. The picture in question may have plenty of "mottling" as a result of saving as a low res jpeg, but it still gets all the essential information across, which to me is far more important than how good or bad it's quality appears.
@brahma
Thanks for the link. I had no idea someone else had back engineered the
arks. I just cruised the site but what I found most interesting was his picture of the cloud with the wings of the statues glowing. I knew that if you get enough attraction going the surrounding air is going to start to ionize. I believe the wings and base they are on is a collector plate. This is insulated from the box itself by the wooden posts alway shown as part of the construction of the ark
I also noted seeing him with the neon bulb. I have done this with a 4 watt cb radio transmitter before. He is just demonstrating the energy flow into or out of his machine. I lit one up with a 4watt rf transmitter and a kicker coil down one end and the ground wire at the other.
If you go to mysite you will see my plan on putting the antennae inside a copper pipe and kicking the electrons to ground. If this doesn't work out I'm planning on kicking the electrons out with a rf tuned inductor winding around a copper tube. I am not planning on working a round attractor until I know exactly what I'm collecting. It's like building a linear particle accelerator instead of a round one. I'll just try kicking the electrons into a collector plate. Maybe put a neon tube inbetween just for kicks. :) There won't be any returning wave of energy like in the tpu just kick after kick after kick. I'm looking for the protonic charge building up in the copper tube first. The second tube is where I'll be looking for potential over ground. I plan on dumping the second collector pipe into a tunable resonating circuit to see what frequencies are at play. I want to try experimenting with different external power scources from audio through light to see if they show up in the resonator.
One last thought for the day- make a magnetic vortex get linear energy flow
make linear energy flow get a magnetic vortex. Nice little dance of forces. Always the same steps. Just different dance floors.
Sorry not much time to work on the construct but I did do a post that explains how the TPU works. It is a Magnetic Antennae upon which many frequencies of electro-magnetic energy will be received/collected. I'm pasting a post I made this evening. Gotta go.
I believe the dispersion/concentration is so evident that it is overlooked by those studying a particular ordering of being. I believe that permanent magnets cause the dispersion flow to act in a predictable way. It is like canyon walls are to a river. The dispersion force is everywhere and the permanent magnet construct results in a predictable reaction of this flowing force. Iron is a pretty cool construct though. It can resist the gravity of a blackhole which swallows up stars for lunch. It is the iron core of the Earth that converts huge amounts of electro-magnetic energy from the sun into orbit and rotation which allows the Earth to exist within a gravitational field that should have made Earth part of the Sun's surface billions of years ago.
I believe SM's tpu works the same way. The magnetic field around the tpu allows for electro-magnetic waves to get collected and channeled into the tpu.
Not because of any match with some majical frequency but the same way the Earth does. The torroidal magnetic field is such that it channels the em into the core of the tpu where the energy in the electrical potential of the wave is given up into a vortex current that supports the spherical shaped magnetic "antennae" and also results in energy gain of the vortex. Be interesting to put the tpu on an air hockey table and see what she does.