after decades of trying to figure out this world im living in...........
this i the picture i see after putting quite a few jigsaw pieces together.....
ive rarely come across instances or benevolent government on a big scale
government is a tool to ensure the powerfull keep their position
real power is secret and anonimous as possible
the exploited will if given a chance exploit the exploiters mouthfull or what?
to ensure that the lower classes remain that way and live like slaves its necessary to
create division and conflict and war
distroy the culture
mix as many languages races religions nationalities together
create as much chaos as possible
make no real attempt to control population crowd then up ten to a room
teach and encourage immorality
specially designed monster creating prisons
create fear and worry
the purpose of education is to make kids stupid and kill the desire to learn
make people as sick as possible
denature the food poison them as much as you can get away with
pollute the environment
pollute the air in towns and cities
flouridate the water to make them docile and minimize rebelliousness
make it as undrinkable as possible
ok ive covered just a few of the main points about 40%
im not totally cynical
theres a lot of good people in the world and alway have been
theres a lot of kindness generosity compassion and clear minds around
this just about govt
yes the gov has a lot to answer for YET, they never do.
..the way i see(but i could be blind) is there are two ways to do something, the right way and the wrong way, its obvious when you do something wrong as a person in public you go to jail end of story, yes when the gov gets caught doing wrong shit nothing really ever happens to them, at best they step down and fade away for a couple years only to surface back in another roll where the start screwing you over again, its the screwing over part i dont get , this has been going on for 100s of year from your rulers and we dont seem to learn or do any thing about it, this gives me the impression the people in general love to be dicked over, so what can ya do ?. there seems to be NO controls set in place to make sure the right thing is done, yet as the public we are controlled very well, and if ya wanna flam me and say your not being controlled ya better wake the hell up just for once. i could go on but is there a point ?, the bottom line is we love to get dicked over and never do any thing about it. and this is EVERY gov in EVERY country, so no point in pointing the finger at just one country , its international.
jikwan, I couldn't agree more.
What we need obviously is a new organization looking to, well do the exact opposite, to spread the good ways, the suppressed methods etc...
It is not hard to start or have enough 'power' to effect the desired changes.
Really the hard part is getting people interested, I have a plan if anyone is interested.
The idea being to create a new society inside the current world, effectively grow a society which tries to define and live and grow a Utopian existence.
im not sure of the exact conversation but about lets say 1000 years ago a roman top dog said > lets put a white arm band on the slaves so we can see who they are<......ANOTHER wiser top dog said > NO, if we do that they will see just how many of them there are and once that happens they will surely want to kick our ass< ( gee what a supprise?)
, Henry Ford said something like,.. > if the pubic knew just what the fed reserve and bankers were up to with this tax bullshit and saw how they were being robbed,they would revolt with out question<
, btw from my understand there is no law that says you MUST pay tax. period. but by getting a ird/irs number so we can get a job and open a bank account, we are agreeing to pay tax.
i have an old accountant friend who is now 72(hes my dad) he once told me, the reason we are in debt is because of the gov, and there in debt because of the reserve/federal bank, now if we did away with them and intrest and only AGREED to pay %10 tax we could very easily meet our debt and the needs of things like roads,medical care.education and so on and so on, but the way it is we are only getting into more and more debt and it will only get worse, and the gov has nothing better to do but dream up more ways to tax us to pay back the banks there there borrowing money from, for EG, i love this global warming bullshit tax we now have, dont you ?,...im sure ive been reading someplace that the ice on some of the other planets in our solar sytem is melting , that tells me the sun is warming up so lets tax the other planets ?, we should have gone with electric cars 50 or so years ago when they first came out, but our rules suppressed that for us as well, dont ya just wanna give them a big slap across the face ? i know i do. ;D
Indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ - 1/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBZne09Gf5A - 2/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjUrib_Gh0Y - 3/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVNN1wqw3k - 4/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPPFgHF9VR4 - 5/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcXLFDuAJNE
peace
The largest problem is public schools. They are used as social engineering, to control the young population. Teach them only about democrats and republicans. Take away there right to freely explore and learn. Build a fear of guns and weapons. Teach them the wrong form of government (an experiment), and teach them that they don't have rights, that the state controls the law, and that the vote controls you. Invert there thinking of life. Destroy their concept of self thought. Corrupt their self image to satisfy the facist corporations which manipulate our government. Teach them that private property is only private when law enforcement says so. Convince them the state is always right. Twist thier perception of whats fair. The welfare state is the control, the government the enforcement, and the international agenda the beneficiary.
Here is a video describing our right to life and libery:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I)
This video is probably the simplest explanation for why we feel so manipulated all the time. It's the explanation of why we question whats around us. This is because we deeply know something is wrong. Have you ever wondered if were truly free? What it must have felt like when government didn't exist, or when the constitution was first formed and was absolute, so no one could deny us our rights? It was an amazing idea; that true freedom and technology could exist together, but it came at the price of independence and little help. When people became lazy, we slowly lost our path of freedom, and the feeling dissappeard. We became dependent on eachother and the government. 5% of the population is made of sociopaths, and we put our lives in the hands of their favorite systems.
SEE MY PREVIOUS POST. WATCH ALL VIDEOS!
The amazing thing is that this is all voluntary, and fixing it is too.
There is nothing stopping us from opening a school, or providing affordable water (bottled or piped in neighborhoods).
There is nothing that is currently screwed up by governments and businesses that can not be done right and is by some, the only thing needed is to do it all together.
Basically to unify and promote all the good options, make the good options affordable.
Not to let money be a road block to the many wonderful things currently hidden.
So don't blame 'them', it is increasingly apparent what is going on and it is our choice to accept the current system which everyone by now knows is corrupt and broken and not up to the challenges the world presents (because the current system engineered them in the first place).
Or to create an alternative.
a22
i spent/wasted a hell of a lot of time trying to figure out a solution to the many
obvious wrongs that we see
my conclusion is that its too late
eg place 15 small snowballs ontop of a snowmountain and let them roll
after say 20 metres its still possible to stop them 100metres no chance
the longer you ignore and not attend to a problem the much more work you have to do to put it right
those mad/bad machines are now very well established
very strong momentum i ching states you need a lot of people working together to get a big result
we cannot work together (big scale projects)
its possible to live well/correctly/do the right thing etc in small communities only
you and i can make big changes and improvements only in small scale communities
jikwan, humanity's own greed has led us to where we are. When we want, it is greed that wants, if it is a need, then is our own survival that needs.
We don?t need what is not needed for our basic survival.
nightlife
you may be talking about doing only that which is necessary
and not doing that which is unecessary
its a tall order but it is being practiced an extremely difficult practice
arent you supposed to be in tune with your intuition to be able to do that?
and how does one uncover the intuition?
jikwan, how does one uncover the intuition?
Yes that would be a tall order but if we need to change things for the better, then our greed and laziness must properly addressed as a whole. Our government and the big money that runs it, feeds off our greed.
Proper education would help change things if we just could stop wanting to change and realize that we need to change. Not only for ourselves, but for all living things.
through awareness/stilling the mind
we are taught to be greedy
conditioned/programmed to be greedy
well you must have tried reducing greed lust aversion in yourself quite a bit i think
not easy is it? takes a long time too also must have wanted to make the change
they cant be bothered to make extraordinary effort to not attatch to their desires
Quote from: aether22 on March 21, 2008, 12:58:42 AM
The amazing thing is that this is all voluntary, and fixing it is too.
There is nothing stopping us from opening a school, or providing affordable water (bottled or piped in neighborhoods).
There is nothing that is currently screwed up by governments and businesses that can not be done right and is by some, the only thing needed is to do it all together.
Basically to unify and promote all the good options, make the good options affordable.
Not to let money be a road block to the many wonderful things currently hidden.
So don't blame 'them', it is increasingly apparent what is going on and it is our choice to accept the current system which everyone by now knows is corrupt and broken and not up to the challenges the world presents (because the current system engineered them in the first place).
Or to create an alternative.
i totally agree with this %100, we give them the power to dick us over, we can take it away as well.
b13
i admire your optomism
best of british luck to you!
If you have leaders you are being led. If you are not being led towards the truth, you are being led away from the truth.
Your true nature is true, it always has been, it always will be. What is led away from the truth, is itself false, not true.
It is your false nature that struggles, that wants to be led (and lead), that is led (and leads).
Your true nature is untouched, untouchable. Your true nature is kind and loving.
Be led by this. Everything else is false.
Don't struggle with the falseness, let go of the falseness. Your true nature doesn't struggle. You are not being true when you are struggling.
Learn to recognize the way your body, mind, and imagination all struggle. And love them.
Set them free from the burden of self that you impose upon them when you identify with them instead of your true loving self.
If ever in doubt, ask yourself, where is the love? And be brave enough to accept it's presence when you find it's everywhere, in every thing and in the absence of every thing, always.
This is not difficult. All difficulties and struggles are a result of the futile denial of the love.
Love is the answer to all your questions, which are the mere workings of your mortal mind.
Put first things first, and let all else follow.
These are the sorts of things I tell myself when I ponder the kinds of issues being raised here. After I've indulged in all the fear and anger and frustration and resentment, the love remains. It's the only thing that's real. It's the only thing that's kept us alive this far and it's the only thing that will save us. The love that is life itself.
Les.
the buddha said if the king is bad the ministers becomes bad the whole country becomes bad
and i aint trying to convert anyone
if the parents are bad the likelihood of the whole family goes bad even the dog
trust me jik its not as bad as it looks , its very possable to stick it to them and when you do they hate it because there is nothing they can do :).
Quote from: jikwan on March 21, 2008, 07:36:29 AM
the buddha said if the king is bad the ministers becomes bad the whole country becomes bad
and i aint trying to convert anyone
if the parents are bad the likelihood of the whole family goes bad even the dog
Yes but that only works when the king is 100% carbon based and not a percent plasma based.
As far as I understand, the story of mankind involves
Gog and magog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog). Once these are found and stopped by the 10th and avatar, then I'm sure all will be better.
got to hit the root cause the government are the apparent cause
but we know there are other forces behind masons bildrburg multinationals the assasins etc
they look more like the root
maybe not though
seems like its the nephalim thats the very root
apparently they live 200 miles beneath earths surface
nuke those and i guarantee il be 200% more optomistic
Quote from: jikwan on March 21, 2008, 08:04:47 AM
got to hit the root cause the government are the apparent cause
but we know there are other forces behind masons bildrburg multinationals the assasins etc
they look more like the root
maybe not though
seems like its the nephalim thats the very root
apparently they live 200 miles beneath earths surface
nuke those and i guarantee il be 200% more optomistic
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-references-protocols-full-text-folder.html full text
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/proof.htm comentary
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion:
Proof of an Ancient Conspiracy
interesting read
I don't think you understand the situation.
"nuke those and i guarantee il be 200% more optomistic"
That is not what humans do...
Quote from: lwh on March 21, 2008, 06:58:06 AM
If you have leaders you are being led. If you are not being led towards the truth, you are being led away from the truth.
Your true nature is true, it always has been, it always will be. What is led away from the truth, is itself false, not true.
It is your false nature that struggles, that wants to be led (and lead), that is led (and leads).
Your true nature is untouched, untouchable. Your true nature is kind and loving.
Be led by this. Everything else is false.
Don't struggle with the falseness, let go of the falseness. Your true nature doesn't struggle. You are not being true when you are struggling.
Learn to recognize the way your body, mind, and imagination all struggle. And love them.
Set them free from the burden of self that you impose upon them when you identify with them instead of your true loving self.
If ever in doubt, ask yourself, where is the love? And be brave enough to accept it's presence when you find it's everywhere, in every thing and in the absence of every thing, always.
This is not difficult. All difficulties and struggles are a result of the futile denial of the love.
Love is the answer to all your questions, which are the mere workings of your mortal mind.
Put first things first, and let all else follow.
These are the sorts of things I tell myself when I ponder the kinds of issues being raised here. After I've indulged in all the fear and anger and frustration and resentment, the love remains. It's the only thing that's real. It's the only thing that's kept us alive this far and it's the only thing that will save us. The love that is life itself.
Les.
Les
I agree with what you have said here.
It is clear that you have looked alot deeper into the true nature of love than most.
What makes me wonder is the place you choose to post about love.
The people writing in this thread are clearly enjoying exploring feeling victomised by the corruption of governments and things like that.
I don't get into feeling victomised
What brings you here ....to this site and this thread?
I am here because of what I have learned of love and life.
Things are not as we have been taught.
People tell me that over unity is imposable
Love shows me is that it is not only possible ........it is the normal way of life.
gary
I come here for the same reasons everyone else does. I'm no different to anyone else that's posted here.
Quote from: one on March 21, 2008, 11:04:18 AM
...overunity... it is not only possible ........it is the normal way of life.
I agree.
Les.
Quote from: lwh on March 21, 2008, 02:54:11 PM
I come here for the same reasons everyone else does. I'm no different to anyone else that's posted here.
Quote from: one on March 21, 2008, 11:04:18 AM
...overunity... it is not only possible ........it is the normal way of life.
I agree.
Les.
Les
You say that you are the same as everyone else here.
Here is the last part of your previous post.
Quote
These are the sorts of things I tell myself when I ponder the kinds of issues being raised here. After I've indulged in all the fear and anger and frustration and resentment, the love remains. It's the only thing that's real. It's the only thing that's kept us alive this far and it's the only thing that will save us. The love that is life itself.
From what I have seen most people are still stuck in fear anger and frustration
This fear anger and frustration eat away at people leaving them feeling empty and alone.
Most people are so busy focusing on the things in their lives that they feel are not right that they totally miss the quiet loving space within that is always at peace.
I am sorry Les, you ARE different.
The average person is still part of the problem
You are part of the answer.
gary
It does not matter what anyone may think. My right to life and liberty, may never be taken by the false sense of superiority. I am an individual; my mind tells me whats right. When I have a question, I HAVE A QUESTION. And when the system ignores me, and tells me to fall back in line, I WILL NOT FALL BACK IN LINE. No one may destroy your rights, and no one can destroy mine. Read the declaration of independence. I guarantee you, that many of the wrong doings they pointed out, have been done by the United States government. The sick twisted logic of controling a human being, should never be considered right, in any manner. When will people wake up? When will they see the truth? I know I have, and anybody that stands against me to claim I don't have a right to my life, or I don't have my right to liberty, I will defend my self! It does not matter how they present their claim, IT IS THE SAME! When the Corrupt United States falls, people will rejoice! A Revolution IS NEEDED!
Quote from: HopeForHumanity on March 21, 2008, 07:58:25 PM
It does not matter what anyone may think. My right to life and liberty, may never be taken by the false sense of superiority. I am an individual; my mind tells me whats right. When I have a question, I HAVE A QUESTION. And when the system ignores me, and tells me to fall back in line, I WILL NOT FALL BACK IN LINE. No one may destroy your rights, and no one can destroy mine. Read the declaration of independence. I guarantee you, that many of the wrong doings they pointed out, have been done by the United States government. The sick twisted logic of controling a human being, should never be considered right, in any manner. When will people wake up? When will they see the truth? I know I have, and anybody that stands against me to claim I don't have a right to my life, or I don't have my right to liberty, I will defend my self! It does not matter how they present their claim, IT IS THE SAME! When the Corrupt United States falls, people will rejoice! A Revolution IS NEEDED!
Wow, how did you get your panties in such a tight bunch? How the hell are you being oppressed in the good old US of A? The FBI is tapping your phone, arresting you wrongly, kidnapping your friends and family in the middle of the night? Try working a little harder, and maybe you will have more of the things you need.
Quote from: utilitarian on March 21, 2008, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: HopeForHumanity on March 21, 2008, 07:58:25 PM
It does not matter what anyone may think. My right to life and liberty, may never be taken by the false sense of superiority. I am an individual; my mind tells me whats right. When I have a question, I HAVE A QUESTION. And when the system ignores me, and tells me to fall back in line, I WILL NOT FALL BACK IN LINE. No one may destroy your rights, and no one can destroy mine. Read the declaration of independence. I guarantee you, that many of the wrong doings they pointed out, have been done by the United States government. The sick twisted logic of controling a human being, should never be considered right, in any manner. When will people wake up? When will they see the truth? I know I have, and anybody that stands against me to claim I don't have a right to my life, or I don't have my right to liberty, I will defend my self! It does not matter how they present their claim, IT IS THE SAME! When the Corrupt United States falls, people will rejoice! A Revolution IS NEEDED!
Wow, how did you get your panties in such a tight bunch? How the hell are you being oppressed in the good old US of A? The FBI is tapping your phone, arresting you wrongly, kidnapping your friends and family in the middle of the night? Try working a little harder, and maybe you will have more of the things you need.
Your so ignorant... You have know idea what I'm even talking about.. My phone calls, like all others, are being intercepted by the FBI every day.I have witnessed kids being arrested for "being in the way". I have experienced social engineering in schools, and wondered if everybody around me was aware. Try researching about "Carnivore", a FBI packet sniffer. No, my friends and family have not been kidnapped in the middle of the night. You can sit around letting your freedoms being taken away, spreading your support for a corrupt government. People work everyday, being consumed by income tax. That money is used to pay off the debt as the government gets it's loans to spend money on whatever project it wants. I suggest you take a look around. Have you experienced a lock down on your own property? I have, and I don't want it to happen to other people...
To be precise, income tax is the method used to re-institute slavery.
Its now called wage slavery.
Both the slave and the wage slave must work their lives away in just to make ends meet...with no possibility of rising above your surroundings.
All done with our compliance and cooperation mind you...I will defer to above references to account for that state of affairs.
Its called conditioning...via controlled and orchestrated mass media sources.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on March 21, 2008, 11:22:14 PM
To be precise, income tax is the method used to re-institute slavery.
Its now called wage slavery.
Both the slave and the wage slave must work their lives away in just to make ends meet...with no possibility of rising above your surroundings.
All done with our compliance and cooperation mind you...I will defer to above references to account for that state of affairs.
Its called conditioning...via controlled and orchestrated mass media sources.
Regards...
All you people are paranoid morons, and commies to boot. I once worked for a wage. I was not a wage slave, however. Now I am a successful entrepreneur, doing what I enjoy, and I thank the political and economic system of the USA for giving me the chance to do this. In many other countries, it would have been much more difficult for me. I love what this country has given me a chance to do.
If you don't like your lame ass job, get off your ass and do something better for yourself. It ain't the government's fault.
Quote from: utilitarian on March 22, 2008, 02:03:16 PM
All you people are paranoid morons, and commies to boot. I once worked for a wage. I was not a wage slave, however. Now I am a successful entrepreneur, doing what I enjoy, and I thank the political and economic system of the USA for giving me the chance to do this. In many other countries, it would have been much more difficult for me. I love what this country has given me a chance to do.
If you don't like your lame ass job, get off your ass and do something better for yourself. It ain't the government's fault.
One man's loss is another man's profit opportunity. Those of us who trade the markets, understand this well.
Where is the oppression in that you may ask?
No one here who understands the current BS would ever want to be a 'commie to boot'. We all know that in communist communities, the government are the slave masters and the people are the slave subjects.
Personally, I don't think I would see you as someone qualified to give judgement on whether someone was a paranoid moron or not.
In the UK, income tax, just takes the piss.
In the US of A, the IRS are not your friend. Ask an IRS officer that quit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1jqLximBZI). Ask another one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKePl2gW_3M)
To whom it may circumcise:
In reference to the quote below...
" In many other countries, it would have been much more difficult for me. I love what this country has given me a chance to do. "
That simply means the poster has one foot in a bucket of shit as opposed to the 2 feet which those "people in other countries" have in the bucket.
Like they say...'it all depends on where you're standing'.
As for the negative personal remarks, they speak only to the integrity of the poster, and do not merritt a response.
Regards:
According to David Icke (http://www.davidicke.com/) the government is run by shape-shifting alien space lizards. One way out is suggested by examining the properties of some other common reptilian species, such as alligators. The meat of these is edible, and the skins are suitable for making expensive designer shoes and handbags.
If these space lizards are similar to alligators, we might be able to eat our way out of this problem. Suitable recipes may be found in Cajun cookbooks. There might even be some over-unitarian Cajun colonel around that might have knowledge of such things. ;)
Is an International Financial Conspiracy Driving World Events?
by Richard C. Cook / Global Research
March 27th 2008
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8450
"They make a desolation and call it peace." -Tacitus
Was Alan Greenspan really as dumb as he looks in creating the late housing bubble that threatens to bring the entire Western debt-based economy crashing down?
Was something as easy to foresee as this really the trigger for a meltdown that could destroy the world?s financial system? Or was it done, perhaps, "accidentally on purpose"?
And if so, why?
Let?s turn to the U.S. personage that conspiracy theorists most often mention as being at the epicenter of whatever elite plan is reputed to exist. This would be David Rockefeller, the 92-year-old multibillionaire godfather of the world?s financial elite.
The lengthy Wikipedia article on Rockefeller provides the following version of a celebrated statement he allegedly made in an opening speech at the Bilderberg conference in Baden-Baden, Germany, in June 1991:
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during these years. But the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government which will never again know war, but only peace and prosperity for the whole of humanity. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in the past centuries."
-David Rockefeller
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@shruggedatlas
Your ad hominem attack only discredits your position. I suggest you examine the facts. . . or perhaps you know you would lose any serious discussion. I suggest you lay off the Ayn Rand for a bit -- she always had trouble living her philosophy. In any case, here are some charts of the financial system meltdown currently in progress.
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3m LIBOR vs 3m Treasury spread (bps)
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Federal Reserve "Temporary" Repurchase Agreements , August 1st 2007 - March 28th 2008, Billions
Quote from: Feynman on March 31, 2008, 12:25:44 AM
@shruggedatlas
Your ad hominem attack only discredits your position. I suggest you examine the facts. . . or perhaps you know you would lose any serious discussion. I suggest you lay off the Ayn Rand for a bit -- she always had trouble living her philosophy. In any case, here are some charts of the financial system meltdown currently in progress.
So should we blame it on the Jews, like jikwan suggests?
No, of course not.
However, it may be important to understand who was the true author of "Protocols."
Quote from: Feynman on March 31, 2008, 12:34:09 AM
No, of course not.
I get the feeling that you are unhappy with the current system. I admit that the current system is not perfect, and has its flaws. However, any system has flaws. Why don't you propose an alternative system, and lay it out in great detail, and then we can compare the flaws of your system with the one we have.
(at least where i'm from) remember the good old days when a small bottle of soda was only a 1.50? Inflation, inflation... :(
You can't be serious. I am very busy, and am not going to waste precious time on an 'abstract political reasoning'. Marx made a perfect system on paper and it lead to wholesale murder of millions.
I can offer a single suggestion, and that is do away with paper money and central banks. That will solve 90% of the problems.
So, let me get this straight. Our deficiet goes up, the dollar goes down, we keep taking more out, and no one addressing this issue?
Ok, so special interest groups are allowed to influence our congress. Why aren't we special? How does this represent me?
Our welfare systems " well stinks"
We are not well liked in many foriegn countries.
(believe it or not, I am not trying to be negative, just bringing out some fairly solid facts)
The political system is set up so that only dems and the reps can win. Very little is said about the "other candidates". Vote for the who will represent you, or vote for the one that you feel won't screw things up too bad?
I don't like this. It just doesn't feel quite right. If things don't stop, then what will happen?
If you set up a thread like this, and all of a sudden it gets bigger and bigger. Then, if it gets big enough to become a threat, what would you think would happen? That is scary.
Did I miss something in this? Is this not true?
To anyone who thinks our system is acceptable is accepting failure. To anyone who thinks the our government is a group of men who screw up occasionally, you must be very young.
Look around you.
I swear, I am just a postitive person with observations.
By the way, I do agree with the statement about the federal reserve. And also agree with looking it up............Learn.
Quote from: icanbeatbob on March 31, 2008, 01:34:35 AM
By the way, I do agree with the statement about the federal reserve. And also agree with looking it up............Learn.
For those who do not understand, again learn all about it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ - 1/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBZne09Gf5A - 2/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjUrib_Gh0Y - 3/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVNN1wqw3k - 4/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPPFgHF9VR4 - 5/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcXLFDuAJNE
shr
i suggested reading the protocols for others to understand how very few powerful people
use government, police,the banks etc
i believe the protocols was written in 18th century and was not about jews
it was hitler who used that story to get at the jews-another excuse to get rid of them
in my posts on this thread i never blamed the jews
shr
man, i love debate i relish an argument with those that have strong opposing views
i would not debate with you
the energy comes through your words and out from my computer screen
goodbye
Quote from: jikwan on April 03, 2008, 02:23:11 PM
shr
i suggested reading the protocols for others to understand how very few powerful people
use government, police,the banks etc
i believe the protocols was written in 18th century and was not about jews
it was hitler who used that story to get at the jews-another excuse to get rid of them
in my posts on this thread i never blamed the jews
shr
man, i love debate i relish an argument with those that have strong opposing views
i would not debate with you
the energy comes through your words and out from my computer screen
goodbye
If you say you are not an antisemite, fine. We can only take you at your word. But when you post links to jewwatch.com and whatever that other blame-the-zionists website was, and really do not put in context why you are citing these websites, people will draw conclusions similar to mine.
Quote from: shruggedatlas on April 03, 2008, 02:53:30 PM
Quote from: jikwan on April 03, 2008, 02:23:11 PM
shr
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the energy comes through your words and out from my computer screen
goodbye
But when you post links to jewwatch.com and whatever that other blame-the-zionists website was, and really do not put in context why you are citing these websites, people will draw conclusions similar to mine.
Aye and that conclusion is that Zionists are really nasty people. The world would be a better place when they leave the planet.
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The one thing I can say truly say about the government and not just one of them but all of them is, they are a load of money grabbing, control freak cowards.
They start wars, and then force ordinary people to fight their battles for them. If there is ever a world disaster like a comet, the planet Niburu, or World War Three breaks out, them bunch of cowards will be the first to go run and hide.
They probably have some sort of underground city ready for them to retreat to, or It would not supprise me if they have some sort of space city or moon base for them to live while we all have the possibilty of perishing in the aftermath.
Well... One question that I need to ask is... After it is all over and you are lucky enough to survive and then the government bodies all start crawling back out from under their rocks, are you going to ever obey them again after all that ?. Or are we all going to stand united and say... "You abandoned us, so now we will abandon you" ?.
If you took the time to read this post, then you have probably learned how much I really hate the government.
[EDIT] I'm supprised I just posted that without the inclusion of bad language :D[/EDIT]
Christian Muslim Buddhist Jew...all are terms used to divide the populace into adversarial groups to distract attention from what a small corrupt group of predators and parasites are doing behind the scenes, under the guise of performing public service.
Political parties are in place to give the appearance of offering the masses a choice...when in fact all parties are controlled by that same group.
Toss in a goodly number of sadistic ritualistic pedophiles into the mix, and this is what we are up against...according to very credible sources like former FBI Directors and the like.
Don't take my word for it though, many of the video testimonials are available on Google video.
These videos bleed sincerity.
I just wish everybody would take a little time to view this evidence submitted by 'blue chip credibility' sources, and start talking about it.
If enough people became involved (as we are all obligated to do) these criminals would become very nervous and begin to modify their conduct = positive change.
*steps down from soap box*
Regards...
shr
the fault is mine ishould have been more careful about which site provided that protocols text
i can understand your reaction
my apologies to you i delited those links
this movie show that the u.s.a is not democracy loud and clear
a must see
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=hacking++democ&hl=en&sitesearch=
That has always been the case...only now it is painfully obvious.
Which is why everyone should refuse to mindlessly enter these hokey voting booths to participate in their own deception.
Regards...
i have to agree with you to a point cap, but what it really comes down to is it should not matter who gets voted in, they should just do the RIGHT thing for the people, plain and simple, but it seems when the pressure is on they slip away into the shadows for a while and emerge later to carry on there theft and raping of the people, im blown away that none of them end up in prisons, the gov seems to get bigger and bigger and the people pay more and more tax to support the rape and seem to be blind to it, we had a news guy walk down our streets and ask random people if the tax system was fair, alsmot %100 of them said , YES we need to DO OUR BIT FOR THE COUNTRY !!!, i burst out laughing, what hell is our country doing for us ?, not a lot, but they seem hell bent on any thing they can do to up our taxing, this tells me ONE MAJOR thing, that our gov HAS NO IDEA how to manage money, im mean for gods sake we have a carbon tax now , how the hell is that going to reduce carbon and make things better ?, all its going to do is line some ones pocket with more money and screw the rest of us, and the carbon will STILL be produced, if te gov REALLY wanted to do the right thing they would start to ban diesel(they are massive carbon makers, who gives a crap that you get %30 more mileage than normal fuel) and cars over say 2000cc, its all a big sham/scam, what ever ya wanna call it.
here in NZ the average person pays around %33 in the dollar and then there is %12.5 on EVERY purchase you make on fuel,food...in fact any time you spend cash you pay an extra %12.5,...lets look at the math for $1 .....33c plus 12.5c = 45.5c in each dollar, what does this mean ?, ok lets say you earn $10 an hour, your only really getting $5 at then end of the day, hmmmmm so in basic round numbers the gov takes about %50, and being hell bent on finding MORE ways to tax us surly proves they have NO money handling skills what so ever,the only skill here is theft, goverments have turned into massive money machines, when i was 16 education was free,hospital care was free,and the education and hospital care was of a high standard, now to get educated we have to get a student loan from guess who ? yes the gov,when you ask the average child/kid .... as the moon orbits the earth does it spin ?, most of them will say * dont be bloody stupid, of course it does ! *, and some others will say * yes the moon orbits the earth * and there stuck there with out even getting to the does it spin part,......and our hospital care, there are more people dieing now in them more than ever because the care is not there any longer and we have staff shortages because they dont wanna work for 60 hours a week and get %50 of what they actually earned so they bugger of over seas and we get imports who are happy to make $5 an hour and have no clue how to do there job,,..... it seems to me that the gov will do anything possible to make thing complicated and full of shit, imagine if JUST FOR ONCE they did things the other way and stream lined and made things efficent, i have an old(72) accountant friend who is very clued up on money and ive asked him many questions about our money system, hes told me that we could all be taxed at %10 and everything would be fine, we could have free education and hospital care again and with high standards, but its not this way because they simply dont know how to manage money, yet we have these beepers running the country,.........put the crooks in jail i say, remove the reserve banks and intrest,after all the only thing they do is print more money land it to the gov AT intrest and forse te gov to find a way to tax us more so they can TRY and pay the money back, its a NEVER ending losing cycle., then EDUCATE people about money rather than teach them how to get credit which actually = DEBT, our kids are being taught to GET a loan to get an education and then get a credit card and try to keep up with the next guy and get more stuff on credit and youll look cool and be hip , what a beeping joke.
oh i seem to have been ranting :).
what i really wanted to express is why the hell do these crooks never see a jail ?, and why the hell cant the right thing be done ?., it should be black and white , two ways to do something , the right way and the wrong way.
it seems like we are to stupid to see whats going on and we are content with being screwed alllllllll the way to the end(and its coming faster now ore than ever).,....a prime example is turning food into fuel, that has to be the dumbest idea EVER invented., you take food off the table , then put it into an engine that is only %20 efficent at best, HOW STUPID ARE WE GOING TO GET ?. ::)
hi borg
way i see it is you think with the accumulated intelligence they have they cannot manage
things so its efficient and economical?
they got some very smart people .......... brilliant even
all govt's work the same way
take as much away as poss give back as least as poss
if theres a surplus they MUST waste it on anything stupid useless costly projects
if govts really helped people they become:
strong healthy intelligent sharp united of one mind etc
thats a very dangerous force
to stay in power you MUST f*** them up maximum (talking about the population in general)
the half percent of rich/powerfull/ruling classes are immune
Quote from: b0rg13 on May 06, 2008, 09:19:59 PM
a prime example is turning food into fuel, that has to be the dumbest idea EVER invented., you take food off the table , then put it into an engine that is only %20 efficent at best, HOW STUPID ARE WE GOING TO GET ?. ::)
Don't believe everything you read. The media is like a broad sheet just to make us belive and react in a certian way. Surely those who control energy markets control the property market and food market. These are primary human needs. If they get us to be stressed then they can sell their next idea to us easier.
In order to beat your enemy you need to as devious as they are. Our enemy is very organized but we have the nature on our side.
@Cap-Z-ro
Briliant words. I think they should be tattoed on every new born so they don't fall pray to control freaks.
What we need is a few good, but very mad individuals, to go and chase that load of thieving, money laundering, f**k-faced, humanity raping c**ts back into their own arses, that they seem to have been talking out of all their lives.
This f**ked-up world, seems to be going back to the same way as the middle ages. Some of us are starting to look out for the Roman's, wondering when they are going to re-introduce window tax :P.... OOPS !... Shouldn't of said that... Some government think tank might just re-introduce that one too :o.
hey bulbz
you anywhere near derby?
im looking for a collaborator
i got a pretty much guaranteed formula to power a car with hho
cant do it on my own i aint got the tools workshop materials
got a bit of money and possible/probable investors in usa
but nothing can be patented
any money made will come from conversions
if not you.......know someone?
just looked up a few of your posts....you from brighton way down south?
Quote from: jikwan on May 07, 2008, 10:31:42 AM
hey bulbz
you anywhere near derby?
im looking for a collaborator
i got a pretty much guaranteed formula to power a car with hho
cant do it on my own i aint got the tools workshop materials
got a bit of money and possible/probable investors in usa
but nothing can be patented
any money made will come from conversions
if not you.......know someone?
just looked up a few of your posts....you from brighton way down south?
Hmmm... Shame I live on the South Coast of Brighton. If I lived up your end, I would have jumped at the chance.
bulbz
shit! 212 miles one way
i reckon we could do some work together
weve both had quite a lot of hho experience.....looking for something vastly different
i know your using some kind of bubbler system
not me! bubbler is the main drag, hinderance,interferance whatever to acheiving
optimum hho
im very much vacuum hydrolysis learned it from joe xogen
tried a rough model on my car worked pretty much ok but BUT
i didnt change the timing or the jets
how can i get a proper reading whithout changing these guys?
cant pollute my govt topic with this reach me on
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4644.new.html#new
Ah borg...the human commodity...'tis a priceless and coveted holding.
Regards...
Thanks Ahura...that would be a rather large tattoo though. :)
How about...'Turn off the TV - Turn on Reality'.
Regards...
I got this email from my mother...apparently the following poem was written by my brother's father in law.
It seems he submits his prose...or at least this one, to the local paper anonymously.
His name is J.M. Matheson of Glace Bay NS.
A Prayer for Afghanistan
A curse on those who devised the plan,
To invade impoverished Afghanistan.
They provided the lie as if made in heaven
Then said it was because of nine-eleven.
The truth was hid, and expounded the lie,
False legitimacy, for our youth to die,
For Queen and country, we pray for her health.
Even in spite of her, ill-gotten wealth.
While patriots fight to free their land,
They?re called Al Quada or Taliban.
Poor people are slaughtered, we mock their laws.
Then falsely say, it?s for freedom?s cause.
Most wars are waged not to make men free.
This one is no different, as I can see.
The land once conquered to control the soil
So a pipeline can be built to transport oil.
World leaders beware, and Canada?s too
International laws were made, for folks like you.
After a Hague court trial, for you I hope follows,
A long jail term, or even the gallows.
Author Unknown
20/04/2008
cap z........
fine set of verses
sharp!
i came across the view sometime ago that the only ONLY reason for conflict
in afghanistan was/is because the afghanis would not allow oilpipeline to run from oil rich chechnia
over their land
am i correct?
Yes jikwan...a very astute take on things...I'm not sure how he arrived at his perspective, but its obvious he his world vision is quite clear.
From all I have read the pipe line is the only factor that makes any sense at all...its not hard to imagine that scenario given the mindset of what are essentially global pirates, raping, pillaging, and torturing all who oppose them...and anyone else they need to satisfy their many perversions.
Don't forget this same group were financing Hitler...and the games continue on.
Whats most discouraging however, is the bad acting that too many people seem not to notice.
Switching on everyones BS detectors will I think be the key to turning things around.
Last rant of the nite.
Regards...