Have a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO5ASxjwi14
This is their website with a few more videos:
http://www.shinyeonenergy.com/gallery/gallery_02.asp
It seems it works with electromagnets working like
pistons in a combustion engine.
The electromagnets seem to be only shortly pulsed...
Regards, Stefan.
Quote from: hartiberlin on April 23, 2008, 02:27:53 AM
Have a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO5ASxjwi14
This is their website with a few more videos:
http://www.shinyeonenergy.com/gallery/gallery_02.asp
It seems it works with electromagnets working like
pistons in a combustion engine.
The electromagnets seem to be only shortly pulsed...
Regards, Stefan.
Due to the halt of the one side there for a moment, it seems to me that the roller in the middle has magnets on it. When it spins it will force the pistons back and forth, but at one moment, one side of the motor seems to get out of sync, and stopped. I haven't read all about it, but that is my guess on how it works. Not OU though.
Br
Vidar.
You know, Shinyeon's 'Maxforce Engine' seems actually quite easy to build and explain IF you consider the work of JL Naudin to be accurate and workable...
From JL Naudin: http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/2magpup.htm
Naudin found experimentally that: "You may notice that the tangential force is LESS THAN the axial repulsive force.....So, its "seems" that the work generated seems "greater" than the work needed for producing the effect....."
Look also at Naudin's simple picture at the end of the webpage there:
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjnaudin.free.fr%2Fimages%2F2mmotor.gif&hash=a95ec243852ec72c023958c5d75026950dae686e)
So, the whole premise, if any of you missed it... it takes less force for a magnet to approach another magnet from the SIDE(tangential) than from HEAD ON(axial). So, by taking less energy to approach from the SIDE, you have a nice little asymmetry, and by using enough of these 'pistons', you can make as powerful a device as you want...
Just throwing this all out there, for those that never made the correlation between Naudin's work and this Shinyeon engine, or for those that even wondered how the Shinyeon engine could even work.
Quote from: tao on October 17, 2008, 12:16:59 PM
You know, Shinyeon's 'Maxforce Engine' seems actually quite easy to build and explain IF you consider the work of JL Naudin to be accurate and workable...
From JL Naudin: http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/2magpup.htm
Naudin found experimentally that: "You may notice that the tangential force is LESS THAN the axial repulsive force.....So, its "seems" that the work generated seems "greater" than the work needed for producing the effect....."
Look also at Naudin's simple picture at the end of the webpage there:
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjnaudin.free.fr%2Fimages%2F2mmotor.gif&hash=a95ec243852ec72c023958c5d75026950dae686e)
So, the whole premise, if any of you missed it... it takes less force for a magnet to approach another magnet from the SIDE(tangential) than from HEAD ON(axial). So, by taking less energy to approach from the SIDE, you have a nice little asymmetry, and by using enough of these 'pistons', you can make as powerful a device as you want...
Just throwing this all out there, for those that never made the correlation between Naudin's work and this Shinyeon engine, or for those that even wondered how the Shinyeon engine could even work.
Wow! Thank you so much! I am very impressed with Shinyeon's magnet engine and their wind generator. I wondered how the engine works and now I have a better idea.
Shinyeon has one working wind generator.. I hope that they mass produce these.
Jason
Quote from: hartiberlin on April 23, 2008, 02:27:53 AM
Have a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO5ASxjwi14
This is their website with a few more videos:
http://www.shinyeonenergy.com/gallery/gallery_02.asp
It seems it works with electromagnets working like
pistons in a combustion engine.
The electromagnets seem to be only shortly pulsed...
Regards, Stefan.
Can you describe how much energy is released with this Korean motor and will this go into mass production, so that we can buy it?
I haven't seen the video but it sounds like Ben Teal's motor:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapeter1.pdf
See page 37/48.
Paul.
Quote from: Paul-R on October 19, 2008, 09:36:07 AM
I haven't seen the video but it sounds like Ben Teal's motor:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapeter1.pdf
See page 37/48.
Paul.
This here work:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter1.pdf
Gustav Pese
www.pesetrier.150m.com (most in germaln - private url)
My observations:
The only thing the website mentions is "magnetic attraction" motor.
The central drum is driven, the pistons take energy off somehow, apparent because as Low-Q mentions the left set of pistons lose synch when the speed is increased too much.
When you study the stationary engine on the video you can see that the drum has some very strange non geometric shapes or indentations on it, I was wondering what this could be considering the rest of the build is very ordered and geometric. Also when you hear it run it seems to knock, I wonder if this is just the noise of the pistons on their linear guides, or could it be that the knock is a designed brief collision between the pistons and the raised section of the drum? I would expect them to have used fine linear bearings with no slop in them and I´m sure their big and small ends are spot on, it doesn´t look like they have built on a budget. That could explain the strange shapes or indentations on the raised section of drum after along time running.
Yucca.
I hate to sound like a skeptic but, with all of that beautifully machined components working, why did they not show where the belt on the pulley on the right was going to? They showed the device from almost all angles except that one. there was a pulley on the right hand side that had a belt that was clearly going down to what? I hate videos like this.
Bill
Hi Pirate88179,
I´m pretty sure that the belt from the central drum is connected to a drive motor in the lower box.
The whole unit is probably a testbed for their research with which they will be able to monitor input power and output power as they adjust things.
Of course whether or not they have achieved COP>1 is the big question, I have my doubts.
Yucca.
@ Bill,
@ Yucca,
Oh, but during the video you can clearly see for a fraction of a second the unmistakably look of a respectable AC motor. It sits close to the floor (right side) and it can be seen through the moving pistons. And, just close to the beginning of the video, a power cable can be seen laying on the floor (left side), in a position that, although not seen, seems to connect to the contraption itself…
Cheers,
Tinu
Quote from: hartiberlin on April 23, 2008, 02:27:53 AM
Have a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO5ASxjwi14
It seems it works with electromagnets working like
pistons in a combustion engine.
The electromagnets seem to be only shortly pulsed...
Regards, Stefan.
this has nothing to do wir OU. it's driven by a external motor. on the picture You'll see the belt and the motor chassis. i saw this vid allready about 2 month ago. i did not follow anymore this one, because of the 2nd picture below
the motor shows up about 3:15 in the video for a second or 2 and seems to be a pretty good sized motor. i got one about that size on my bridgeport mill and it is a 3 horse 3 phase motor. so there has to be some significant energy loss when the left sides cut out and quit moving. looks pretty cool but there is no power behind it at all. if the left side can be "left behind" if the engine speeds up, what happens if you try to put a load on it.
ya, i saw that motor too. i think they might just be showing that they are able to spin a conventional crankshaft/motor setup with magnetism.
Hi Offy! Welcome to the forum!
Hope you check out the other magnet motor threads.. I plan on starting a wiki/forum dedicated to PMMs soon.
Some gates you might want to look into are the Tri-Gate, V-Gate, and the Ring-Gate.
Jason
Quote from: Yucca on October 20, 2008, 06:14:51 AM
Hi Pirate88179,
I´m pretty sure that the belt from the central drum is connected to a drive motor in the lower box.
The whole unit is probably a testbed for their research with which they will be able to monitor input power and output power as they adjust things.
Of course whether or not they have achieved COP>1 is the big question, I have my doubts.
Yucca.
It's big, but is it any better?