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Title: converting electron mass into energy without messing up the neucleus
Post by: sparks on April 25, 2008, 10:15:56 AM

  Einstein said that if we convert mass into energy there is going to be alot of energy produced from just a little mass.  (speed of light squared is a huge number)   The electron has mass.  Very little compared to the neucleus but enough I think.  How could we get the electron in a conductor (which is barely tied to the neucleus) to convert some of it's mass into energy?  I think that if a fast moving magnetic field is directed at a copper gold or silver piece of wire we might be able to get the electrons to chase the magnetic field  and convert some of the electron mass into energy. Something like burning electrons instead of old dead trees.
Title: Re: converting electron mass into energy without messing up the neucleus
Post by: Creativity on May 08, 2008, 06:22:09 PM
interesting idea.As i understod Einstein equations,its enough to bring something to the speed of light to make it to loose all of its mass and become energy.That's why they say that nothing material can travel faster than light.I think in a wire u will have a big chance of hitting something with your fast moving electron.Maybe better idea is to use electron cannon(like int the TV),modified so it could shoot electrons at higher speed converting some of its mass to the energy.it would happen in vacuum.Problem that i see is how to tap this energy?maybe force electron to run in a circle trajectory..
Another idea that just popped in my mind is to force electron to spinn faster(stationary electron in magnetic trap,spinning so fast that its edge reaches the speed of light).Probably easier to extract energy in this way...We could use one electron stationary (S) and shoot from oposite directions protons or electrons to pass by electron S and make it spinn becouse of the electrostatic charges rushin close to it.i don't know if free electron has magnetic spinn?
Title: Re: converting electron mass into energy without messing up the neucleus
Post by: b0rg13 on May 08, 2008, 06:29:31 PM
Quote from: sparks on April 25, 2008, 10:15:56 AM

  Einstein said that if we convert mass into energy there is going to be alot of energy produced from just a little mass.  (speed of light squared is a huge number)   The electron has mass.  Very little compared to the neucleus but enough I think.  How could we get the electron in a conductor (which is barely tied to the neucleus) to convert some of it's mass into energy?  I think that if a fast moving magnetic field is directed at a copper gold or silver piece of wire we might be able to get the electrons to chase the magnetic field  and convert some of the electron mass into energy. Something like burning electrons instead of old dead trees.

how do we make/create *a fast moving magnetic field*....?.....easy to make ?..
Title: Re: converting electron mass into energy without messing up the neucleus
Post by: Creativity on May 08, 2008, 06:30:13 PM
or maybe to use some small dipole molecule,and try to spinn it with magnetic field.Atoms on the edge of the molecule would loose some mass?
Title: Re: converting electron mass into energy without messing up the neucleus
Post by: sparks on May 08, 2008, 06:53:43 PM
   I believe what happens is that the energy field of a high frequency spike or spark radiates at the speed of light.  As it encounters mass the magnetic dipole moments of the electrons shift to align with the magnetic field disruption caused by the spark radiation.  In doing so they are no longer magnetically resonant with the rest of the atom.  Their orbitals are changed and they drop to a lower energy shell with the resultant release of photons.  The radio wave or spark acts as a catalyst only and is not diminshed in it's ability to excite the electronic release of photon packets.  The ambient energy field of the Earth restore's the electron magnetic resonance within the atom  (this is sometimes called back emf) and the mass is ready for another "light chase".

    @ creativity

   I imagine it is possible.  Exposure of salt water to rf results in the hydrogen oxegen bond being broken.
This would be an example of molecular rf catalyst.  This is an extremely important discovery (not by myself)
This allows for storage of rf catalyzed energy.
Title: Re: converting electron mass into energy without messing up the neucleus
Post by: Creativity on May 09, 2008, 11:57:30 AM
yeah i didn'tt thought about this.The molecule would probably split way before it would reach any considerable spining speed.
Title: Re: converting electron mass into energy without messing up the neucleus
Post by: sparks on May 09, 2008, 12:30:48 PM
  I spent some time researching how magnetic resonance imaging is accomplished.  The magnetic field is compressed to the point that the entire atomic magnetic resonance of the hydrogen atom is altered.  Then a radio frequency/frequencies are injected into the field which causes the hydrogen spin to be altered.  This spin manipulation results in the release of energy in the form of a very weak electromagnetic wave.  This wavelength is monitored by "antennaes" mounted all around the patient.
Then a computer reconstructs the received "photon packets" emitted by the hydrogen atoms into an image.  This enables the physicians to see tissue response to the radio frequency catalyst which caused the pinned down hydrogen to shift it's dipoles.
   I believe this is what happens when a salt water solution is exposed to radio frequencies or kicks.
Instead of a very strong magnetic field as used in the MRI machine the sodium chloride ions in solution pin down the water molecules.  When the kick travels through the solution the magnetic resonance of the water molecule is upset and the weak electrical hydrogen to oxegen bond is broken.