Greetings All
We have been talking about wheels and the whys and why not they will work. So it is about time we talk about help items, and what we have to work with. To start with here is a wheel stand built with 2x4s and 3 inch lag bolts. Very simple and very effective design, and can be any size you wish. But if you are looking at a bigger wheel than 3 foot I would say go to 2x6s and 2x8s.
I am posting links due to sizing.
http://www.creationtime.com/S2010001.JPG
http://www.creationtime.com/S2010004.JPG
Now here are some starter graphs to help people draw out there wheels
http://www.creationtime.com/graph8circleout02.GIF
http://www.creationtime.com/graph8circlein02.GIF
http://www.creationtime.com/graph6circleout02.GIF
http://www.creationtime.com/graph6circlein02.GIF
This is just a start, and there is allot to learn and there are test you will need to try to help understand why most wheels fail and why some may work.
I have spent my life building thing of all sorts as well as some fantasy items like this one. ;D
http://www.creationtime.com/Mandy.GIF
I will be posting avi test videos on youtube here
http://www.youtube.com/user/ABthehammer
Here is one that mimics the show of Scott Hall and it turns just as his does in his videos. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaEWQr28zO4
@ P-motion
Well I am over 300 lbs and I can stand on it and it won't break. I figure that is a fair test. It was my butt on the line. LOL
@ P-motion
Use what is called a flange bearing, Take both sides of your uprights (before assembly if you can) and clam them together and use a wood bore the same size of the smaller part of the bearing and bore them together to help keep the holes in line. Don't over tighten the bearings on the all thread axle or you will cause more friction at the bearings. In this one I used 1/2 all thread. Very good for wheels up to 2 1/2 feet across.
Hay all
Here are a few more video on youtube of non working wheels to maybe learn from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pOG-46Igoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpx6ECQhD8E
And a simple arm and weight test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHn7v0QwiHk
enjoy ;D
I like your wheels, they are like medieval wheels (a knights shield) ;)
Add a cylinder and spheres machine to your wheels and you will have something that makes energy.
Well I posted another toy that likes to go around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhskB-0SjKI
Morning allen,
I must say i am very confused about what you wrote about your test. I to use weights around the rim to counter act/weight the rim. I find it interesting that it only ran for a minute and a half without the arm. Most perfectly balanced wheels as i assume that would be without the arm would run for some considerable amount of time. Why did it slow down so quiclky w/o the arm.
I am not being picky but its in your thread on weights test w/ much explanation as to what the test is. Free flowing arm? spring weighted arm? If your starting to reveal your runner maybe you should start another thread? But if not then thats fine with me. I have your Youtube site in my favorites already ;D
I can guess that the weight of the wheel and weights creates considerable mass for a wheel of this size. Is this where your finger was attacked?
@Dgraphic911
The test was very interesting and it is not the start of any of my serious wheels. I also spun it as fast as I could without the arm weight and it only ran for 2 1/2 minutes. Being only 10 inches it will not spin as long as a larger wheel of like design. I get an extra boost effect with the arm weight. That is was is important to this test. The reason I started posting these test is that people are trying to design wheels and have no idea of the weight effects that they are facing. The drop test is also interesting from the 12:00 drop it would go around and back up to the 11:15 to 30 mark. For a drop test that is a massive increase over any standard drop test, which means close. Now this is a possible application to help some designs for a possible continuous wheel.
Greetings All
While I was sick with phenomena, I play with an erector set and built the classic gravity wheel. Out of Bessler's book it is called the MT1.
This is to show that you can use many things to play this game of perpetual motion. The MT1 will show you allot of what you have to overcome. the other picture I also removed weights from the wheel which will show you that some weight while in those positions have no help in the effects.
Quote from: AB Hammer on May 17, 2008, 11:21:41 PM
I will be posting avi test videos on youtube here
http://www.youtube.com/user/ABthehammer
Here is one that mimics the show of Scott Hall and it turns just as his does in his videos. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaEWQr28zO4
Why do you move the steel ball away from the magnet when you demonstrate the non magnetic part of this trick? I suppose you whished that your steel plate would shield the magnetic field.
PS! Next time, do the filming from a distance and use the zoom. Then it is harder to se that you cheat... ;)
Vidar
Hello Vidar
Ah you are talking about this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tzXhOipIxE
It is to show that the ball and the bar are not magnetic but the effects inside the magnetic field. And it also shows an increase in the distance effect of the field (it increases where the metal is).
As for camera distance. I was by myself at the time. I need to buy a better camera with sound.
There is no cheating in my videos. What you see is what it is and you can easily do the same. It is an easy test.
Just a dumb thought here, but for a really low budget start, couldn't you just flip over a bicycle and use that very balanced, free spinning wheel assembly right in its own frame? I :-\
maybe not, but just an idea. :)
Quote from: WildBill on November 20, 2008, 09:00:22 PM
Just a dumb thought here, but for a really low budget start, couldn't you just flip over a bicycle and use that very balanced, free spinning wheel assembly right in its own frame? I :-\
maybe not, but just an idea. :)
Bicycle wheels are fine you just have to attach something to mount what you are trying to work with.
My latest wheel is 6 feet in diameter and uses a bicycle front wheel bearing for the axle. It turns unbelievably smoothly. So YES, bicycle wheels/parts are very useful.