To all;
No one, and I mean no one, has shown, replicated,or produced any device that has shown overunity. None, Zero. Zippo. I've seen probably the best motor efficiency experts, so far, in any forum group I have seen on the web. So, why? Why continue down a path that doesn't work? I don't see any work in any area which follows a path that leads to somewhere. Where the heck is the scientific method? If this forum is for another group of fools that have no better life than to post their silliness,whether it is baby bottle washing,or the existence of proto-plasmic energy in a quasi-state of flux, then what good are you? Whether or not the excess electrons come from a solid, plasma, or static state should be the major discussion point. Yet, I see no arguing on either side of the equation, at least on the posts I have read for the last four months. [I realise I have not spent as much time as others, but I have a life]. What you are not producing is power. With out power you are just pissing in the wind. So why not stay with what you are good at? Prove me wrong, prove that you are interested in achieving a revolutionary new power source. Argue the point, or shut-up.
"Intelligent people argue ideas, average people discuss events, dull people talk about wine". Origin unknown.
point, or just shut-up.
Quote from: sdanielmsev on May 25, 2008, 12:27:28 AM
point, or just shut-up.
sdanielmsev
Good idea
With your attitude you can't be of help to anyone .......so why don't you just shut up .
gary
To all;
Then I guess you are ready to show me your replicable device. At about 5000 smackers, that would pay your airfare, couple of nights in a good hotel, and enough to pay for your experiments.
But then you would have to get away from your phony-baloney seat in front of the computer and actually MAKE something.
I tell anybody here, I will bet the whole nickel that no one here at overunity can make a vehicle, using the designs as posted here at overunity, that will last four hours under an actual load of a person being moved at a speed which is usable for transportation. Or how about pump to power a well? Maybe a refrigeration unit.
I guess real world applications are not useful.
And, yes I have read these peoples stuff about their claims about claiming they can extract electrons from a place other than their actual set-up, probably when it was originally published. Or, the second edition,(I'm not that old). And it has never been proved, much less been in any type of mass production. If there is any doubt look at the VolksWagon bug. There will always be those that are too cheap to spend their money on wasteful machines.
Of course I don't fear the black helicopters.
The only thing we have o fear is fear itself - FDR
Quote from: Loner on May 25, 2008, 03:41:53 AM
As a simple example, heard of Grey? Know anything about Sweet? Beardon? Bedini?
Need proven theory? Tried Whittaker? How many names do you need? Maybe Tesla?
If you need an OU device, readily available, look into Phase conjugate mirror Tech. (If you can. ;D)
In fairness, none of the inventors you mentioned have ever demonstrated a self-runner that could be replicated.
Take a transformer,say 95% return on secondary coil,pulse the primary,collect the flyback,anything more than 5% is profit,of course the switch has to be run,but there should be enough for that.
happy hunting.
peter
Quote from: Loner on May 26, 2008, 04:27:21 AM
This axle will spin, by itself.
This is a kind of joke, isn?t it?
Nice try, anyway! ;)
Cheers,
Tinu
From: House Painter
To: Loner
Now that's what I'm talking about. A reasonable discussion about why I am not a fan of overunity, at least on this board, has been shown how I may be incorrect, without the "neener, neener you ain't got enough posts to be talkin' here". Reasonable arguements, whether I, or anybody agrees, is always the point. What I would like from this forum, whether newbie, or "hero", is a rational discussion of how this idea of "overunity", might actually work. Not to stop the excellent work on capturing the other forces that make a motor work more efficiently.
However, I still say, prove, show that it works on a large scale, is a piece that can be produced on a scale usable to the rest of the world. That these "motors" can be of use to anybody except experimenters. And I repeat can. There is no reasonable arguement that one must be a part of this discussion group, or that, or that they must have some degree, or they must be from this group, or that. I have learned more from the ignorant than the learned. The ignorant know they are ignorant, the learned rarely know they are.
With absolutely no respect, do it, repeat it and sell it, then, and only then will you impress someone.
To tinu
From House painter:
No this is not a joke, this is the reality of a situation. A stuation that your comprehension will be tested to its limits. What works, works. That which is only replicated in a lab under a controlled environment, and no where else, is worhtless as a fart caught to power an oven.
To; Utilitarin
From: House Painterl;
Thank you. Hopefully your input will stop some of the foolishness.
Quote from: Loner on May 26, 2008, 04:27:21 AM
Would you like one from me? I have made this, and it does work, but I cannot prove that it doesn't
de-magnitize the magnets, and I have no use for "Motion" anymore, but to follow the "Original"
question, an "Overunity" motor would be acceptable if it spun with no fuel or electrical input?
Forget demagnetizing the magnets. Let's put that aside for now.
If you can make a device that can run for an extended period, using no fuel but only a permanent magnet as the source of energy, you will win the Nobel prize. And, yes, I would like one from you, and I am sure everyone else here would too. It would indeed be a tremendous and world-changing discovery. So let's see it. The setup you have described has been tried in many different arrangements, and all attempts have failed. I would like very much to see your arrangement in action.
To Resonance:
From House Painter;
Resonance may be your handle, but from reading your posts, resonance is not something you are familiar with. As such, why should anybody listen to you? What have you accomplished, except for irritating posts? Me? I done it. What patent do you own except for a patent to be snide?
Greetings,
@sdanielmsev,
Goto www.Lutec.com.au
There you WILL see what your screaming and kicking for.
If this technology gets the support it deserves, THEN we'd all not have to worry about some of the woes with concerns to energy from Fossil Fuels. I have rung them personaly and unfortunately, they are looking to make Fossil fuel burning more efficient, and not break away from Fossil fuel burning. However, this position has been a development of survival, and therefore necessity. People just won't open their minds on some things, which is a pity.
:-*
PS: The original Motor/Generaator produces 24kW, however they told me that they will be producing a 10kW model , altho this unit won't be available for home usage, rather for small business usages etc.If i could, I'd have one installed in the House and say to Hell with the Grid and the manipulations they exert.
To Loner;
From House Painter:
What is the resonant frequency of your battery? Maybe if you understood how that affects your system,you would have a leg up on producing a replicable system. Also, attaching a battery conditioner in tune with your pulse circuit might help. Both circuits must be in tune with each other, will be alot of thought,but I have been waiting for the right mind. Know what the word sceptic means?
Quote from: Love@ndLight on May 27, 2008, 09:58:25 PM
Greetings,
@sdanielmsev,
Goto www.Lutec.com.au
There you WILL see what your screaming and kicking for.
If this technology gets the support it deserves, THEN we'd all not have to worry about some of the woes with concerns to energy from Fossil Fuels. I have rung them personaly and unfortunately, they are looking to make Fossil fuel burning more efficient, and not break away from Fossil fuel burning. However, this position has been a development of survival, and therefore necessity. People just won't open their minds on some things, which is a pity.
OK, let me get this straight. They are sitting on a revolutionary technology that creates energy from no fuel at all, but they decide to "set that aside" and work on improving their fossil fuel engine? Does this pass anyone's smell test? Oh, and they are selling shares in their company at AU$100,000 a pop. And their website looks like it was designed by a 9th grader.
To: loveandlight:
From House Painter;
Took a look at the wbesite, looks like they got something replicable. On this site they are looking for overunity, which I do not believe exists. The electrons to produce the extra power must come from somewhere, and that is my quest. There are others here who do not contribute frequently, you might want to take a look at. Utilitarian and Nightlife come to mind, but there are more. They seem to be interested in where the power comes from. I am looking for an opened- minded student, or collaborator, that is able to take criticism as well as I dish it, and take it. My methods may seem strange to the MIB-fearing here, however there is a method to my madness. Good students of energy, or anything else are hard to find on these posts, just look at their grammar and punctuation. My idea is to make energy as cheaply as possible, to all that need it. And to keep it away from those that aren't interested in helping those in need. Please don't share this with antone else, it would ruib my reputation.
To: utilitarian:
From House Painter:
If their idea is to dump good technology, then let 'em. There are plenty of fish in the ocean, let them ruin themselves. But until then, buy their stock, use the money to build an actual device, not saying you haven't, and watch failure happen. Thieves are going to steal, no matter what the good do. I wouldn't even try to smell any one or thing that claims they have a world changing device and then use the old technology. They will fail, so don't worry.
Greetings Utalitarian,
Here is a link that led me to look into this Company further:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=efCelx7qe_M
NOW, after calling them on the phone I discovered that the claim it is "Zero Point" is a false. Also, this "current affairs report" is some years old and in the last 10 years they have been developing the "Motor/Generator" that is displayed on their website today.
I asked them if it was based on TESLA technology and they replied"no it isn't, but it got them thinking and the scientific community will be forced to make new approaches for Magnets!"
As for your saying that it "smells", i say :"look at the MONEY angle of the big corporations and their reliance on us buying the Fossil Fuel energy they sell us"
Also, Lutec have said that they have been developing the current Motor/Generator with a view to "Survival", which (in my opinion) leads to the previous statement i speculated as being the cause for their further development into todays motor/generator.
They want "non- sophisticated investors" to help them financially BECAUSE the Australian Government shows so little interest, and that in my opinion is because they have too much invested in Fossil Fuels(namely Coal and Uranium).
As to your "petty" comment about their website being made by a 9th grader, Obviously, your tastes are "Elitist" and have little open mindedness to what might be Truth , pure and simple Truth!
If your opinion is based PURELY by the LOOK of something, go watch FOXTEL...therefore you might "Feel something as well!
FOXTEL: See something, Feel Something! (unquote)
Faithfully,
Love@ndLight.
PS: I'm not electronics wizard and understand very basic Electronic theory, but that Sir, I intend to remedy over the coming years.
Basic rules of physics tells us that energy cannot be "created" where it doesn't exist (at least until Nuclear efforts proved E=mc^2).
However, we don't have a "lack of energy" problem ... there is more than enough free energy all around us. As humans, we just have to figure out better ways to HARNESS and STORE that energy.
There is NO DOUBT in my mind that someone will be able to figure a way to accomplish this. So don't let anyone get you down... keep on tinkering. :)
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To anyone who cares:
Nope, not yet. You called me
Dan
Yes it is. Well you tell me, way nope. Mr Dan.
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