Someone once told me, ?I could give you the answer, but it would be meaningless to you?
If the answer cannot be given, then it must be realized. Careful study, and contemplation, along with a clear vision of what it is you want is a sure path to realization of what you are looking for.
I see plenty of frustration and anger manifest in various outbursts on this and many other sites caused by the frustration of not finding the ?key? to success in over unity. There have been various theories as to why this is, be it language barriers (interesting idea Hans! But I disagree) suppression, Dissinformers, ?dumb? people etc. And so the masses continue their numb march foreword, deconstructing the latest print or device in order to learn its secrets.
I propose the reason people as a whole cannot and will not find what they are looking for is simply due to their deconstructionist nature. Humanity as a whole seems to have fallen into a self defeating trap of deconstructing any and everything put in front of them in order to understand. This very behavioral flaw results in a multifaceted pallet of Arts, Sciences, Religions, etc. Even within these various areas of study, people name themselves ?specialists? further deconstructing their area of expertise into smaller fractals. One could spend a career attempting to learn all there is to know about bird feet.
Despite our best efforts, humanity as a whole is still wandering the Tower of Babel, unable to understand one another, nature or existence as a whole.
Few have broken free of this entrapment, but their words ring powerfully to those who know what they are looking for.
?I came to the conclusion long ago ? that all religions were true and also that all had some error in them, and whilst I hold by my own, I should hold others as dear as Hinduism. So we can only pray, if we are Hindus, not that a Christian should become a Hindu ? But our innermost prayer should be a Hindu should be a better Hindu, a Muslim a better Muslim, a Christian a better Christian.?
--Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi?
Many of the great mystics and sages throughout history such as the Christ, Lao Tsu, Muhammad, etc, have made proclamations that while profound, have been largely ignored, let alone applied to more than just ?religion? and ?ethics?. It has not yet entered mass consciousness that these men may not have been talking solely about a way to live, but rather what life in general is, all encompassing. Perhaps our greatest ?sin? has been to separate man from science, from spirituality, from everything else. We live in but one world! And there is one truth that governs it!
So long windedness over? after one more quote.
"I have but one law for all My opposed pairs of creating things; and that law needs but one word to spell it out, so hear Me when I say that the one word of My one law is
BALANCE
"And if man needs two words to aid him in his knowing of the workings of that law, those two words are
BALANCED INTERCHANGE
"If man still needs more words to aid his knowing of My one law, give to him another one, and let those three words be
"RHYTHMIC BALANCED INTERCHANGE"
The Message of the Divine Illiad
By: Walter Russell
Now let me leave asking a few simple questions hopefully you have already asked yourself.
If we have created generators that operate in resonance, multiplying power many fold, why do we try to run non resonant loads off of it, thus destroying our power created? Why do we design loads that do not take advantage of resonance? Why do we not build machines with every facet harmonically related to every other facet?
If the law of balanced interchange is absolute, why do we IGNORE IT?
Why do we not spend our spare hours studying balanced interchange (resonance) be it mechanical, rotational, or electrical?
We live, we die, we breathe in and out, Day rise, Night fall, summer interchanges with winter, and on and on. Our very lives are governed by rhythmic balanced interchange, yet our machines are poor reflections of this understanding.
Think about it for a while. And for Gods? sake, start putting things back together, rather than take them apart.
Freebie (you only get one, and it may not stay long)
Imagine a generator.....we'll call it a tuning fork. Push it once, and it rings, through the law of balanced interchange our power we used to strike it once, has been multiplied over and over, rhythmically.
How do we "tap" into this? The general consensus seems to be some sort of apparatus that takes that movement and turns it into electricity to drive whatever load we wish. Could be a wheel and rod which converts the linear oscillation into rotational to drive a standard generator etc. Either way you slice it, you are taking the resonance of the fork, and making power.........in the worst possible way. In order to gain our energy we must dampen our oscillations killing the very effect that multiplied our power.
Or we could design a load for the tuning fork, lets say for sheits and giggles our load is, a tuning fork ;D of the same frequency. Strike one tuning fork, and BOTH will vibrate, both source and load. Now you have not only multiplied your initial impact through the aforementioned law, but you have now doubled your initial multiplication, since you now have two moving for the price of one, and to boot, the natural oscillation of the first was NOT dampened. Note: the condition of resonance was not dampened, and the load resembles the source.
This information is known, yet not followed.
anyone could have written this, but I have never read it.
what you want is in front of you if you have the will to see it!
--Armagdn03--
Well written Armagdn03,
"what you want is infront of you if you have the will to see it!" So true.
And nicely titled too, it is a big tower of babel isnt it :D
A couple of quotes from Tesla fit in here I believe:
"The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane. "
And of course:
"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."
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Nicely put, Armageddon.
Here's a link to an article / tutorial that might be helpful for persons trying to understand how this can be done - there are many ways, but I think this introduces the reader to the basics of one way in which Tesla achieved resonance:
Inductor-capacitor "Tank" Circuit
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_6/chpt_4/15.html
B
Howdy Y'all,
Life would not exist without a Rhythmic Balanced Interchange. Yin and Yan are in everything. God created everything, so you can correlate that everything is divine in nature even if it, or they don't know it. We have just forgotten our divinity. There are catalysts in life that bring you around full circle and make you realize that you are divine in nature. Everyone has this epiphany at some point in their lives. From the smallest bits of matter to entire galaxies life is cyclic in nature.
There are loads which utilize the rhythmic nature of AC power. Like an AC motor (invented by Tesla). The AC motor is governed by the alternating current. Its operation is almost silent. They have a great deal of power, despite their compact size, because they are highly efficient. You can call a device that is so profoundly efficient a masterpiece. Tesla was a supergenius. The AC power system (also invented by Tesla) is really the best way to distribute power, there is no reason to do away with it. We just need a better fuel source. Now we burn coal, or natural gas to generate steam to drive a AC generator. There are some generators that take the middle step out, like a gas turbine, which convert the heat from burning natural gas directly into AC power with the use of a turbine engine. These are highly efficient generators, albeit they are burning fossil fuel. OK, now say we take the fossil fuel out of the equation, and run the gas turbine on HHO. Then we have a green alternative and can use the same power generator and distribution system. Doesn't this save a massive amount of labor? We don't need to reinvent everything, we just need a new fuel source...
Blessed Be Brothers...
@ armagdn03
QuoteMorpheus: Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.
QuoteMorpheus: The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
With the above thoughts in mind, "RHYTHMIC BALANCED INTERCHANGE", has no meaning.
The person that told you: ?I could give you the answer, but it would be meaningless to you? is absolutely correct. They need to "show" you the answer so you can see it yourself.
If you look back to the history of radio, before the "arc discharger" apparatus became popular, radio engineers used "impact excitation". This concisted of some means of exciting a coil into undamped self-oscillation and this was accomplished by the used of a spark-gap (not an arc). The spark was initiated with about 500v and feeble current and this little tiny spark which was quenched very suddenly, would excite a coil into oscillations (usually shown with a condenser across the inductor and chokes befroe the gap in diagrams, but the self-capacitance will allow for self-oscillation if excited correctly) and these oscillations would last for a long period of time before they were damped out. So, there is your tuning fork and striker - and one more wrong fork in the road taken.
Tesla, Wien, Chaffee, and Galleti had the right idea.
Wow, some people responded, interesting. Perhaps more food for thought.
First, AC power is not an accurate representation of the law of Balanced interchange. There are two states which govern all, polarity and relaxation. This will be expanded upon. However, AC is in fact polarity followed by relaxation, followed by opposite polarity. Interchange does not refer to interchange between polar states as in AC but rather interchange between two opposite conditions of compression and decompression or polarity and, nullification of polarity.
A small treatise on Balanced interchange, in particularly polarity.:
In life there is only polarity and relaxation. With these two tools, all we know and will know are masterfully created. Mr. Russell would name these two forces, compression and decompression. I submit that movement can aptly be termed polarity, and peace is the condition to which movement returns through the action of relaxation. At first it is difficult to fully comprehend how these seeming two items can create all there is, not because we do not contain the tools to understand, but rather we have not been looking to simplify the world through our understanding, rather to complicate it.
Take for instance a stream, its movement is in one direction. Because it moves, we may say it represents, or is a polarity. It has a positive, where it is going, and it has a negative, where it has been (not 100 percent accurate, but stick with me). One points in one direction, and the other points opposite to it. (Those who have thought about it a bit, will readily agree that flowing water is a good analogy to current in a circuit so you may apply what is talked about here to such a case. ) It is easy to see how absurd the idea of a monopole is immediately. How can you have a river going somewhere without having been somewhere? Or, how can it have been somewhere if it is not going someplace? So movement is polarization simple and plain. This can be applied and hold true to any polarity, be it heat and cold, positive and negative charges, North and south poles, light and dark. all movement is polarized and characterized by two opposing states wanting to return to null.(more accurately, all movement is either creating or voiding polarity) How can a fan blow more air than it takes in? It cannot, equal and opposite.
Quite simple when you think about it. If there is no movement, how can there be two opposed conditions? If there is movement, how can there not be?
To be expanded upon, thanks for the replies, and for the record, nobody needs to be shown the answer, if there is a will there is a way, regardless of who steps into the scene, if you build it they will come, cough cough, lol, I mean if you want it you will find it, and if you don?t find it you don?t want it bad enough. (sorry for the bad field of dreams remark)
and good post with the LC circuit help! one example out of quite a few that can be used!
Yes, the "change" in the aether propagates - not actually moves. Everything propagates - including physical things.
So quiet for so long, shame, oh well, something else to chew on, maybe this one will go a bit better.
The so called ?Kicks?
Since I am fond of electrical resonance, I will apply all such examples to this form of oscillation, however they can be applied to all resonant systems. First a couple state fact
1)when a change in amperage or flux occurs in an inductor, a voltage is produced that appears as a ?spike? on the oscilloscope.
2)this happens even in transformers, and the action is not a part of transformer action.
3)The steepness of this spike is dependent on how quick the change in current, or flux took place.
This very spike has been well documented and understood for years, known to be caused by Faradays Law. It states that when a change in flux occurs, a voltage rise occurs proportionally. The equation is as follows, -N ((Delta(BA))/delta T) where B is the magnetic field, A is the area, T is the time and ?N is the number of turns negative. Without going into detail, it states, that if we increase the turns, the area, or the magnetic field a higher voltage is generated, conversely if we lower the time, a greater voltage is generated. This means we have several options for inducing this voltage spike.
Most have left it at that?..or have not even heard of this, or have not applied it correctly. Some may say, so what, you have a short duration, HV spike with little amperage, what good is that. Well my friends, it does a lot of damn good when we are dealing with resonant systems. Please take into consideration the following analogy. You are pushing Billy on the swing. (the swing is your oscillatory system) and at first you give him random pushes at random times, and notice his swinging is erratic and uncontrolled, then you learn you must push at the right time, in order to get the swinging smooth, and get him to gain some height. Now you are pushing at a harmonic of the swing, and in doing so each succeeding push adds onto the next one, so that after a while he is swinging nice and high for little input effort given at regular intervals. Now lets say you keep on observing, and notice another important thing. Since there is no friction in your dream, we won?t worry about that. You notice that there are several ways in which you can push, both of which require the same amount of energy. One is a quick stabbing motion, very fast but short, and the other is long and drawn out but more slow. What you notice about each, is that the total height of Billy?s swing cannot exceed the speed of the push given to him. Even though both methods use the SAME amount of energy, since we are dealing with an oscillatory system, one method will yield far greater resonant rise than another despite the same energy. Since the quick motion offers more kinetic energy, it allows the swinging to ?top off? at a higher level. I would go on further but I think the point has been made.
Now the reality of the situation is that in all resonant systems we have friction of some sort, in this case ohmic and other losses. So there is some die down. We want to minimize the things that cause it to die down so that each succeeding oscillation pushes upon the previous, and if the previous is as large as possible, then resonant rise increases. Tesla referred to this as the ?Magnification? of the circuit, and the equation for it is as follows Magnification = (1/R)(square root(L/C) where R is resistance, L is the inductance, and C is the capacitance. Those in the know, will notice that in modern electronics this is referred to as the Q of the circuit, or how many oscillations occur before half the energy that was put Into the oscillatory system has dissipated. We can see that decreasing R, increasing L or decreasing C all result in a higher Q or magnification of the oscillations.
Putting it all together, Increasing number of winds, or decreasing pulse time increases the strength and size of the faraday induced spike, a bigger spike = higher resonant rise potential, High magnification factor allows for this potential to be realized, by following the guidelines given.
Now to spell it out even further. IF you make the pulse shorter and shorter, less and less energy is used, Spikes get bigger and bigger, and if done right, resonant rise is INSANE. I leave you with the following quote from Tesla himself on the issue of big kicks of power in small time spans (in this interview he speaks of the capacitor dealing with the large kick, another piece of the machine)
?Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular. ?
armagdn03
Quote from: armagdn03 on July 23, 2008, 09:36:02 PM
Â"Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular. Â"
Great quote. Few understand it to any degree. Like I said previously:
Tesla, Wien, Chaffee, and Galletti had the right idea - and they all worked with damped waves - impulse excitation.
Pretty sure LC resonance is not what we are after...look at sound resonance.
The problem is that people do not observe, they rather project how a device should work and get no where.
I can tell you how much of it works but you will not realize that I am telling you the truth.
I could prove it by showing the correlative evidence but the proof would be more than anyone would be willing to read.
People are more interested in immediate results not understanding.
Without the 'keys', without understanding you can't get anywhere as each result will seem like magic.
The answers are all around in correlations and observations, these devices are not all isolated, they work in the same ways.
I can just give you all the keys but and how they work if you like but first answer this riddle, if I did what would you do with that information?
Study and experiments to verify them, add them to experiments you were doing anyway incase I was right? Or ignore them?
BTW the 'Kicks' SM refers to are not necessarily the result of applying kicks, I would consider it very possible that he is applying sinewaves and getting kicks.
thanks for the responses, but lets not regurgitate mindless "I told you so's" How about, if something is important to add, ask, contribute (in the strictest sense) then post, if not wait till you do, ;D
I don't know who that is directed to nor do i really understand what you are asking.
But I can tell you that from the perspective of understanding more about this than most and being willing to share all I know, the issue really in IMO the lack of willingness to study the evidence from those wanting to know.
But at the same time I have never trusted others theories and looked on them skeptically (but then I have been willing to do the research required to establish what the truth is), at least some had some truth to them.
The real issue is that we have no foundation, there is too much that everyone has to establish for themselves. Sure most everyone knows and agrees with basic electromagnetism for instance so all that may be required to share is a tiny piece to share something new.
But with the aether you first have to show that you are right in saying that it exists in the first place.
It is not that the rules are unknown, it is that they are not universally established, imagine trying to explain how a transformer works to someone who didn't believe in electricity or understand the concept.
The answer is that sadly only those who will either do the work or just 'trust' the right people will be on the right path, and while the same is true of conventional physics it there is never the less greater apparent evidence behind most of what is claimed there due to the unified efforts and verification of so much.
So I come back to my offer, if anyone wants to know some keys just answer this question: "What will you do with what I tell you" and if the answer is anything other than "ignore it" then unlike many I will happily share what I have learnt.
I would also invite others to share their keys, I promise to consider, research and even when appropriate use in experiments.
Why not share what we know in this thread? I am interested to hear what others believe/know.
What keys have you found?
Quote from: aether22 on July 24, 2008, 01:06:15 AM
BTW the 'Kicks' SM refers to are not necessarily the result of applying kicks, I would consider it very possible that he is applying sinewaves and getting kicks.
This would not be impossible, it could even be likely. You will find that the sine wave produced at resonance, and the kick are one and the same, it is only a matter of how you are producing what, the only difference is one is a dampened wave, and one is not, and there is a huge difference in what that means as tesla noted in the quote I posted earlier.
armagdn03,
Are you trying to share something, discuss something, or what?
You say you know things and could explain or share but i would be pointless - yada yada
I don't see anyone asking for anything, explanations or otherwise, so why dangle the carrot?
If you want to share something - share it - if no one understands it - so be it.
He stated to resonantly match the load to the resonant drive circuit.
And:
Quote from: armagdn03 on May 31, 2008, 01:33:24 AM
Freebie (you only get one, and it may not stay long)
Imagine a generator.....we'll call it a tuning fork. Push it once, and it rings, through the law of balanced interchange our power we used to strike it once, has been multiplied over and over, rhythmically.
How do we "tap" into this? The general consensus seems to be some sort of apparatus that takes that movement and turns it into electricity to drive whatever load we wish. Could be a wheel and rod which converts the linear oscillation into rotational to drive a standard generator etc. Either way you slice it, you are taking the resonance of the fork, and making power.........in the worst possible way. In order to gain our energy we must dampen our oscillations killing the very effect that multiplied our power.
Or we could design a load for the tuning fork, lets say for sheits and giggles our load is, a tuning fork ;D of the same frequency. Strike one tuning fork, and BOTH will vibrate, both source and load. Now you have not only multiplied your initial impact through the aforementioned law, but you have now doubled your initial multiplication, since you now have two moving for the price of one, and to boot, the natural oscillation of the first was NOT dampened. Note: the condition of resonance was not dampened, and the load resembles the source.
This information is known, yet not followed.
anyone could have written this, but I have never read it.
what you want is in front of you if you have the will to see it!
--Armagdn03--
--giantkiller.
i was gonna respond b4 but i told my self forget it .... you all know how long that lasts ....lol
@ armma do share your hard work the world is slipping by as we speek .....
i dont need to rant on this i could mind you but i wont ...
i think there will only be a few that actually figure it compleatly out with out help .....
well i have still not studyied russel so me to be of help is slim ...
but then there is you and i know you studyied his work extencivily :)
hope to hear from you and see your new projects
l8r bro 8)
ist
Quote from: armagdn03 on July 24, 2008, 02:34:35 PM
This would not be impossible, it could even be likely. You will find that the sine wave produced at resonance, and the kick are one and the same, it is only a matter of how you are producing what, the only difference is one is a dampened wave, and one is not, and there is a huge difference in what that means as tesla noted in the quote I posted earlier.
To clarify, what I am talking about is an aetheric effect developed by having 2 coils each with an electro-aetheric current in them in the same space or nearby, their aetheric influences collide and agitate the aether energizing it, like orgone. Or think Scalar waves.
Orgone, Scalar and torsion for instance are just different words for the same thing (although the aetheric influences in each do differ, just as visible light and microwave radiation is the same thing and yet different)
The aetheric disturbance such creates can cause energy (seemingly pulled from nearby sources of EMF such as motors) to be pulled into a nearby coil.
The kicks are not being input, they are the result of strongly pulling in comparatively distant EMF's.
Quote from: Grumpy on July 24, 2008, 04:10:46 PM
armagdn03,
Are you trying to share something, discuss something, or what?
You say you know things and could explain or share but i would be pointless - yada yada
I don't see anyone asking for anything, explanations or otherwise, so why dangle the carrot?
If you want to share something - share it - if no one understands it - so be it.
Ha ha ha, sorry, guess I didn't state my intentions, didn't even know I had too, but I guess one could look at it like this. If a person were to give the "answer" it would be pointless because the entire understanding behind it would not be in place, so it would be like looking at a tv for the first time, and trying to figure out what to do with it, i guess im just presenting a user guide, a few things to ponder. I never thought of it as dangling the carrot that nobody was asking for. There are definitely things that seem to have slipped by the mass consciousness that do not require belief in an aether or other form of energy, or any supreme knowlege, rather simply looking at things from a parallel point of view, engineering from a different mindset. People build awesome tesla coils all the time, which take advantage of 90 percent of the concepts that people ponder over on this site, but dont realize how to use it. People can create resonant rise following instructions, but people cannot figure out how to plug an apliance into it because they dont know why it was built in the first place, or how the different parts contribute to its "pretty" display. come on man! random coil combinations with no regard to the number of winds, core material, inductance, parasitic capacitance, resonant frequency, what happens at resonance etc is talked about or understood. random loads are applied, without any form or sort of decoupling from the source etc, or without making sure the load wont destroy the resonant rise that took place. Im not trying to be mean or withhold anything from anyone, im just trying to get people to think a little bit!
A...3
You are wasting your time. One in a million really wants out of their self-realized Matrix. The rest will defend it to the end because they need it.
As my brother recently said to me:
"I dont have time to babysit. and who needs to breakdown the obvious. Figgure it out, or be left behind in the matrix you've created for your selves."
a rather bleak outlook, what if great teachers such as Tesla, and Walter R thought the same way, and never shared their findings or wisdom? But who knows, you may be right, you arent the first person to tell that to me.
Bleak outlook?
It is what everyone wanted - desired - created.
If you fell you can change it - by all means do so and you will have the support of many that do not think it can be done.
Your mentor an I are no different, we pass each other on our path and shake hands occasionally.
If you are going to do something - I recommend that you hurry - it will only get worse from this point on.
Do you still want input on this Mr A? Does a monopole field generator sound like fiction, industry has been using them for at least 50 years to separate large heavy metal plates. We can build a generator on this principle, and since the magnetic field is not effected at all by the plates separation (which is repulsion) we will be able to move many plates within that monopole field, even switch poles at will. I think if we keep the washers static (rigid) and place charged plates -/+ we could attract any current values driven from the washers by the mag flux. This may work with the Tesla flat bifilar coil. May be that when we think about this we can figure out how Ed Leeds.. did his coral lifting, he was a thrifty man, so he built a magnetic generator that seemed only to require a few cranks to do its work. Ed learned to place magnetic charges on objects , even stack charges perhaps. What are your thoughts on this?
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