It looks like it has ended. Steorn's web site is down. Even the forums is offline which is surprising, considering that they have managed to build quite active community over there...
Steorn RIP...
one might consider that steorn maybe did actually have something, but as with many others preparing to burst onto the scene with proof, they were nicely and firmly "asked" to sabotage their own work, or turn their efforts to something that does not threaten the energy industry. (I cite Xogen (Stan Meyer) as a perfect example)
and if they don' t comply, well you know the rest of the story
Their site goes down occasionally. They'll be back.
Quote from: poynt99 on June 14, 2008, 10:46:21 AM
one might consider that steorn maybe did actually have something, but as with many others preparing to burst onto the scene with proof, they were nicely and firmly "asked" to sabotage their own work, or turn their efforts to something that does not threaten the energy industry. (I cite Xogen (Stan Meyer) as a perfect example)
and if they don' t comply, well you know the rest of the story
Yes, funny how that happens every single time.
...their website bounces up & down?
maybe they should have patented their website instead ;)
slainthe!
sandy
Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site: http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc
My theory is Steorn did not know enough about free energy to do what he was doing.
His devices probably worked in his LAB with 50Hz AC wallwart leakage fields, and into
that they were optimized. But then failed to perform in the museum. 60Hz. chaotic leakage
nodes from the museum exhibits etc, nice that the museum building was apparently torn
down immediately after Steorn exhibit. Immediately upon seeing that this devices were
not working it clued Steorn that his devices were operating from environmental fields
rather than the magnetic ZPE necessary for success. And since you cannot just redesign
something for free energy he saw all, and knew that his organization was screwgled...
MIB's surely do their work in strange ways.
So, boys and girls, let that be a leason, radiate your work widely to get as many eyes on it as
possible, One person does not know all theory.
S:MarkSCoffamn
Quote from: mscoffman on June 14, 2008, 11:46:25 AM
My theory is Steorn did not know enough about free energy to do what he was doing.
S:MarkSCoffamn
Since free energy does not exist who would know enough about it?
Quote from: Bobbotov on June 16, 2008, 11:27:27 AM
Since free energy does not exist who would know enough about it?
Heretic! You are way off the path of circular logic. Here is the proper mantra.
1. Free energy exists but is suppressed.
2. How do we know it is suppressed? Well, there is no evidence of it, so it must be suppressed.
Yeah, like the suppression of conspiracy theories which are ALL OVER the internet. Big secret. LOL!
One thing to keep in mind is that govn'ts do intentionally release disinformation to confuse the public. They will release a fabricated conspiracy theory to off-set the factual ones. This is intended to make believers seem to others as if they're off their rocker.
If I were to come up with a free energy system, believe me, I would keep it totally to myself until it was working very well, then I would post the documentation of it, in multitude, to every forum, webpage, email, etc I could so that hopefully all of them could not be destroyed by govn't/corporations before the public had gotten their hands on it. THAT, IMO is the only way to beat this control thing.
BTW, do yourselves a favor and watch some videos on the "Council on Foreign Relations". Google for it. Scary stuff!
Quote from: lexridge on July 10, 2008, 05:22:35 PM
One thing to keep in mind is that govn'ts do intentionally release disinformation to confuse the public. They will release a fabricated conspiracy theory to off-set the factual ones. This is intended to make believers seem to others as if they're off their rocker.
If I were to come up with a free energy system, believe me, I would keep it totally to myself until it was working very well, then I would post the documentation of it, in multitude, to every forum, webpage, email, etc I could so that hopefully all of them could not be destroyed by govn't/corporations before the public had gotten their hands on it. THAT, IMO is the only way to beat this control thing.
BTW, do yourselves a favor and watch some videos on the "Council on Foreign Relations". Google for it. Scary stuff!
Hmm, yes, because I am sure "the government" contacts Stefan daily in an effort to have specific topics pulled. Oh noes, don't post anything up or "they" will suppress you!
utilitarian,
Quote from: utilitarian on July 10, 2008, 05:47:12 PM
Hmm, yes, because I am sure "the government" contacts Stefan daily in an effort to have specific topics pulled. Oh noes, don't post anything up or "they" will suppress you!
if anything actually appeared here that would compromise "national security", such as a free energy system that actually worked repeatably (which it hasn't), you can bet your ass they would. However, since that has not been done yet, we don't know. I guess we will find out when and if that time comes, IF we even know about it. Also, I highly doubt that Stefan would risk himself or his family for the sake of this forum. I certainly wouldn't.
Lexridge
Well.. If a working model or design for a free energy device appeared here and in 300 other over unity forums all with in a few minutes.. No way they could stop it.. And no way they would take down every forums owner.. It would just not be possible.
Agreed. That is exactly what I tried to stress in my original post.
If I had a quarter for every time someone suggested that I send agents into someone's house in the wee hours of the morning to bump them off, I could stop sending agents out in the wee hours and just retire.
Bessler007, Cmdr.
MIB HQ
I don't know if this has been posted here. Apparently Steorn now plans to launch their Orbo thingy "before next summer".
http://www.tribune.ie/article/2008/aug/10/free-energy-firm-generated-8m-in-funding/
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.somethingawful.com%2Fforumsystem%2Femoticons%2Femot-toot.gif&hash=d10bfaa196f7ccea6bfb7a9a1171cefe249bdd98)
it's jackass companies like steorn that give the free energy research community a bad name.
What are you talking about? They're giving the opportunity to have 22 scientists test their claims and they've said they're not in it for the money. If they were scammers they wouldn't want their design tested, and they'd want all the money for themselves. If they were selling "free energy" generators for $100 on ebay that didn't work, I'd call them scammers, but they actually seem to be genuinely interested in showing the world that this technology does in fact work. The world needs the technology. 15 million kids die of starvation every year, global warming keeps increasing, ice caps are melting, wars are being fought over oil... If this is put off another 100 years, it may be too late. We need this stuff today. If Steorn is full of shit, fine, but that doesn't mean magnetic motors are impossible... It just means they're full of shit and trying to give the technology a bad name. I hope they're in it for the right reasons, and they are who they claim they are... but regardless, the knowledge is out there... if not Steorn, then some other inventor will figure it out. Matter of fact, I'm pretty sure the military already knows ALL about magnetic motors... it's just now finally starting to trickle down to the regular citizen. If the military knows about these motors and this energy, we have a right to use it for the benefit of mankind... this is more than just a technology to power fighter jets and submarines. This is a technology that can unite and revolutionize the ENTIRE world.
:)
Quote from: cyclopz on September 06, 2008, 02:32:19 PM
What are you talking about? They're giving the opportunity to have 22 scientists test their claims and they've said they're not in it for the money.
From the news story I quoted:
QuoteAccording to its 2006 accounts, which were provided by the company, Steorn's two directors, CEO Se?n McCarthy and Michael Daly, shared over ?350,000 in remuneration in 2006.
Those are pretty good wages, considering that they're not in it for the money.
In any case, why haven't they shown anything to the public? If they have a working orbo, couldn't they at least release a video that shows one operating? This thing has been going for years already and it appears they are trying to spin it out for at least one more, collecting nice salaries along the way.
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Matter of fact, I'm pretty sure the military already knows ALL about magnetic motors... it's just now finally starting to trickle down to the regular citizen. If the military knows about these motors and this energy, we have a right to use it for the benefit of mankind... this is more than just a technology to power fighter jets and submarines. This is a technology that can unite and revolutionize the ENTIRE world.
Are you saying the military already is using magnetic motors? If so, isn't it odd that the last two major wars the US has been involved in have been largely over oil?
Quote from: cyclopz on September 06, 2008, 02:32:19 PM
What are you talking about? They're giving the opportunity to have 22 scientists test their claims and they've said they're not in it for the money. If they were scammers they wouldn't want their design tested, and they'd want all the money for themselves. If they were selling "free energy" generators for $100 on ebay that didn't work, I'd call them scammers, but they actually seem to be genuinely interested in showing the world that this technology does in fact work. The world needs the technology. 15 million kids die of starvation every year, global warming keeps increasing, ice caps are melting, wars are being fought over oil... If this is put off another 100 years, it may be too late. We need this stuff today. If Steorn is full of shit, fine, but that doesn't mean magnetic motors are impossible... It just means they're full of shit and trying to give the technology a bad name. I hope they're in it for the right reasons, and they are who they claim they are... but regardless, the knowledge is out there... if not Steorn, then some other inventor will figure it out. Matter of fact, I'm pretty sure the military already knows ALL about magnetic motors... it's just now finally starting to trickle down to the regular citizen. If the military knows about these motors and this energy, we have a right to use it for the benefit of mankind... this is more than just a technology to power fighter jets and submarines. This is a technology that can unite and revolutionize the ENTIRE world.
Do not forget the 2012 Doomsday!! ;)
The war in Iraq for oil is an elaborate red herring... OBVIOUSLY if the military had electomagnetic motors powering their secret jets and spacecraft (which I bet they do), they'd go out of their way to make it look like the technology doesn't exist, hence the war in Iraq for "oil."
Maybe they use some sort of nuclear energy to power their top secret jets, but I'm sure they're well aware of the magnetic motor technology and I'm sure they're researching it to the fullest extent. The US government, for example, has TONS of secret technology projects going on 24/7. Ever heard of Area 51? That stuff is so top secret... I wouldn't be surprised if they had invisibility and time travel technology already.
Quote from: cyclopz on September 06, 2008, 08:04:24 PM
The war in Iraq for oil is an elaborate red herring... OBVIOUSLY if the military had electomagnetic motors powering their secret jets and spacecraft (which I bet they do), they'd go out of their way to make it look like the technology doesn't exist, hence the war in Iraq for "oil."
Well, they're certainly going far out of their way---thousands of lives and about USD 580 billion at the moment, if this (http://zfacts.com/p/447.html) site is to be believed. The conventional explanations, being far less elaborate, seems more plausible to me.
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Maybe they use some sort of nuclear energy to power their top secret jets, but I'm sure they're well aware of the magnetic motor technology and I'm sure they're researching it to the fullest extent. The US government, for example, has TONS of secret technology projects going on 24/7. Ever heard of Area 51? That stuff is so top secret... I wouldn't be surprised if they had invisibility and time travel technology already.
I'm sure they have lots of interesting technology, although time travel seems a bit far-fetched. However, even with all the money and power in the world, you won't be able to overcome the laws of physics.
Just out of curiosity, do you believe other countries have similar things? China, Russia, Britain, for example?
They are not down they are running strong that I am aware of...
Only thing is testing is taking much longer then anticipated...
News Press Releases something would be nice it has been nearly a year since there last bit of news.
I'm not sure what kind of technology China has but I know Britian has some super secret technology and Russia is up there too. Time travel is pretty far fetched. I was just throwing that in there to make a point. BUT... I have heard about portal travel. I'm not joking either. Scientists are working on that as we speak. Say you can hop in a portal in the US and pop out on the other side of the world... I'm not sure how far along they are with that but I know they are working on it and my guess is that they've had some kind of success. I'd say invisibility is definitely a possiblity although I'm not sure if that's real or myth. I'm fairly confident they have advanced engine technology... We all know the US government loves to confiscate inventions and who knows what they've got brewing down in the Area 51 labs. The government views free energy technology as a "threat to national security," which is a bunch of bull... The "threat" would be from power company sponsored terrorists... say from big oil. The real "threat" though is a government that tries to suppress free energy technology from its citizens, essentially keeping us in the dark ages. If our government doesn't want this technology in the hands of the general populous (where it should be), then that government is not in our best interests. I think that is why this free energy research is such a big deal. We need rip the power out of the greedy hands of the corrupt politicians and put it back in the hands of the common man. Hopefully Steorn can come through with a way to deliver free energy... or one of these other inventors... the important thing is we don't allow well-intentioned inventors to be bought out, silenced, or terrorized into keeping their knowledge a secret. The true terrorists are the ones conspiring against our environment and mankind to keep clean energy alternatives quiet.
Quote from: cyclopz on September 10, 2008, 06:50:24 PM
.... but I know Britian has some super secret technology and Russia is up there too.....
How do you know about these secret technologies? What are they? Where can I find out more about them?
I like the time travel bit better,
You could go and tie the tubes of a few women and where would we be?
Such as the mothers of Stalin, Hitler, Napoleon, Krishna, Mohamed, Jesus, not to mention Caligula or Oppenheimer or even Mugabe and Hirohito.
The list is endless. Wouldn't it be lovely?
If they had that kind of technology, wouldn't you think we would see some of its effects? Perhaps not, our brains would be permanently altered, that is if they even would be there.
Hans von Lieven
I don't know what steorn story is, but I do certain for myself that the government can detect an overunity device and can distrupt an overunity device if they are electromagnetic based ( of course if you invent a Besslerwheel, you'll be safer). One can set up atenas with multiple waves detection by having different rods at differnt length and configuration. Once they pick up an unsual wave that continuously give output, they will track down the intensity and find the device. One can also set a device off to dusturb the ambient electromagnetic environment (which I think the case happened to steorn). If you can extract ZPE, you can disturb ZPE.