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Title: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: CLaNZeR on July 24, 2008, 02:18:59 PM
After playing with Archers SOG and Mondrasek's MGW gravity wheel I got to think that there has got to be an easier way of shifting this weight.

Hence the Buoyancy and Gravity idea.

I quickly bodged some leaky pipes and stuck them on the wheel as below.
This is not an exact science, but I reckon this could show promise.

Couple of pictures and Video below.

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http://www.overunity.org.uk/bg/CLaNZeRbg1.wmv

Will try and seal those pipes better( All the wine bottles these days do not seem to have corks LOL ) and put some weight in the tubes.

Let us know what you think.

Cheers

Sean.
Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: AB Hammer on July 24, 2008, 02:40:49 PM
LOL CLaNZeR

All you have is a balance, water weight displacement only replaces the weight it shifts up. You have to look at it as just tubes of water and even when the shifted is lighter the water is heavier and it goes in the wrong direction to get any use from it.

You are a good man and willing to work which is obvious. I am going to invite you to work with me on a project if you like.
Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: Hankinator on July 24, 2008, 02:46:30 PM
Clanzer,  As usual your work and ideas are great.  I remember on this forum long ago a similar but "inverted" idea where the entire rotating assemble was under water and the tubes had air.

One thing to think about would be a mechanical or magnetic "latching" of the weights so they to not float to the top until 12.

Keep it up....very interested.


Thanks,

Hankinator
Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: CLaNZeR on July 24, 2008, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: AB Hammer on July 24, 2008, 02:40:49 PM
LOL CLaNZeR

All you have is a balance, water weight displacement only replaces the weight it shifts up. You have to look at it as just tubes of water and even when the shifted is lighter the water is heavier and it goes in the wrong direction to get any use from it.

You are a good man and willing to work which is obvious. I am going to invite you to work with me on a project if you like.

ROFL  ;D ;D

Hey the only way I learn is to try myself!!!!

I just made up some new water tight tubes and see exactly what you mean now !!!

All good fun. Thanks for the offer AB but I done the non public projects before and tend to stick to the public ones these days.

Cheers

Sean.

Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: TheOne on July 24, 2008, 03:15:18 PM
The idea is good but i think the water mass is higher then the lifted content so that cannot really work unless I am missing something.

Nice experiment anyway. :)
Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: ezzob on July 24, 2008, 03:42:50 PM
Maybe this is the 3:e force i am waiting fore? to get the wheel go around? ;D

Regards
Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: AB Hammer on July 24, 2008, 03:46:48 PM
Well then CLanZeR

Would you like to do a public one with me then? I will go through my designs and look for one that is plausible, but no promises of working, and it won't be what I am working on at this time either but it should be fun.
Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: CLaNZeR on July 24, 2008, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: AB Hammer on July 24, 2008, 03:46:48 PM
Well then CLanZeR

Would you like to do a public one with me then? I will go through my designs and look for one that is plausible, but no promises of working, and it won't be what I am working on at this time either but it should be fun.

Again thanks for the offer AB, truly appreciatted. But if you have a design that you know will not work, what is the use of building it?

Now before ya jump in and say that is what I having been doing all along so far, you are correct but at the time I was building either the person who designed it was disillusioned or indeed I was LOL  ;D ;D ;D but then I go along in life being disillusional and ignorant of science as it is more fun :)
Some people might not get that, but then maybe they are not meant too!

Now you are very grounded with your ideas, but you propose a project that you know yourself will not work for me to play with?
See the confusion my end?

Cheers

Sean.


Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: AB Hammer on July 24, 2008, 04:10:29 PM
CLaNZeR

I do have quite a few that I know that won't work so I wouldn't waste the time even posting them for someone to work on. What I had in mind is one of 4 that in my eyes are possible workers, but this doesn't mean they will work either, but they have a real chance. I also know other people will try to build it as well if I post it. Which of course is just fine, that is what open forums are for.
Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: CLaNZeR on July 24, 2008, 04:38:37 PM
Quote from: AB Hammer on July 24, 2008, 04:10:29 PM
CLaNZeR

I do have quite a few that I know that won't work so I wouldn't waste the time even posting them for someone to work on. What I had in mind is one of 4 that in my eyes are possible workers, but this doesn't mean they will work either, but they have a real chance. I also know other people will try to build it as well if I post it. Which of course is just fine, that is what open forums are for.

Okay AB, you have convinced me  ;D ;D

Start a new thread with the design and will take a look.

Many thanks for this

Cheers

Sean.
Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: zapnic on July 26, 2008, 06:56:44 AM
good job man

but if you but magnet in that tube with water and top wheel magnets
like it's holding down and release right spot

hhhmm will it work? ???
Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: AlanA on November 11, 2008, 04:11:19 PM
Hi CLaNZeR,

I just shaw your wheel.
How do you get the wheel spinning? What is in the tubes?
I think the wheels need some push to startspinning.

Alana
Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: Michelinho on November 11, 2008, 08:53:18 PM

@CLaNZeR,

You look like you have fun building projects. For your tubes inside the water, you could use the car shock absorber idea, restrict the flow of water around the tube by using a round soft rubber gasket attached at the center of the tube cap, one way the cap would back the gasket and the other way it would bend to allow more flow. Car shock absorber use 2 one way valves of different size but tougher to implement.

I'm working on a clay battery, messy and still low power but fun.  ;D

Having fun is part of life.

Take care,

Michel
Title: Re: CLaNZeR playing with a Buoyancy and Gravity idea
Post by: AlanA on November 12, 2008, 05:10:59 PM
Hi everybody,

in the past I thought about buoyancy of air in water (like many others)
I think the key is to get a bucket of air from outside at the bottom of a tank full of water in this tank.
Does anybode out there knows a solution. It would help really.