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Title: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: Freedomfuel on October 23, 2005, 04:49:22 PM
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Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: hartiberlin on January 30, 2006, 07:40:12 AM
Yes, I agree, most of the stories about him are just made up by disinformation agents.
He also was harrassed. I tried to find people who were involved and all only don?t want to say anything about it.
Also the guys who published the things about him can?t be reached anymore or they don?t answer emails...

He also wrote me lately that he was harrassed by agencies and had fear about his live.
So we will see, what will still come out of all this soon. I hope he will publish soon some secrets
about his invention.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: giantkiller on September 13, 2006, 01:57:51 PM
Snap, crackle, pop...
The basic Patent is Tesla's 390,721. The patent exists for the mechanical. The full implications are not fully documented.

Step 1: a 4 coil toroid that generates a rotational magnetic field.
a frequency above 40k hz generates free power across another coil.
Proof: Tom Bearden stated that a spinning magent operates exactly like a gyroscope. The same laws of physics apply.
Proof: Steven Marks demo'd the effect with his 3", 6" 17" coil. 5k hz is too low.

Step 2: A duplicate 4 coil toriod mechanically meshed with the first one, operated in reverse order.
The easiest way to get the mesh is to use dual conductor or speaker wire.
Proof: Steven Marks has 2 on switches on the 17" coil. Counter rotating magnetic fields produced by 2 intermeshed 4 coils rings.

Now when both rotation speeds are the same the effect is one crossover point some where on the coil. This obviously can be used as an x/y navigation during Levitation.
By varying either speed ever so slightly precise shifting control can be gained.

So how do we achieve higher interference rates? 2 ways: increase the current to the coils (this creates more flux lines) or up the rotation speed  (This causes more lines of fluxes to cross each each other). Or, oh my God, do both!

Now we know that any rotational speed higher than 40k will radiate magnetic fields, like radio, microwave.

By putting the higher speed emminations in a toroid we end up with a magnetic compression engine. The center is a twisted, highly compressed magnetic force that produces a magnetic black hole.
In the compression center as the lines of flux are highly enregized and cut through each other both but can't cross center, the toriod ( with a twisted center) becomes a
magnetic ball that at different speed causes really fantastic anomolies. Would you care to speculate, like levtation, cloaking, interdimensional traversing of space.
We are talking huge field effects. These effects are already shown at the shoutwire site for the SETI alien contact video.

My avatar is the next coil rendition. And how do I get the high current into it. I will wire one coil to the 1,2,3,4 spark wires of an autombile and run the 1,2,3,4 of the other coil to
another vehicle to run at a different speed. The RPMs won't get above 40k on the ring rotation speed but the interference speed should be high enough. The only problem is you show up on radar.

So be cool.

On another note:
The hutchison effect is the application of a 2nd frequency against the base frequency of our magnetic environment and another frequency imposed against that. The effects are caused by the line of flux cutting across each other. Anything in the way gets altered, weight, atomic makeup.

The Lifter technology proves levitation. The instability is from being on the edge of the field. It wil never be stable because it is on the end of the field.

I made a previous statement to the release of information to the world as I get it. I am up all 24/7 in spells analysizing and deriving. Anybody out there taht doesn't want to believe or understand then that is your problem. None of the findings here break the laws of physics. Stay on board. See the SETI contac video!
I don't want to sell this because I don't want visitors. And nobody can sell this. This knowledge is now public domain and the government doesn't want that.

Once again, cut the crap theories. The force, Luke, is called the magnetic field between the lines of flux, not aether. Start your on new age post and stay out of reality.

The gauntlet is thrown.
I slay giants, lest I die in darkness. 8)
Oh, and by the way.... You heard it first! Now tell your friends and pass it on and lets get this show on the road.
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: kames on September 13, 2006, 09:57:43 PM
Hello giantkiller,

Hmmm?, interesting. The uniqueness of Tesla rotating field is that the coils (magnetic poles) are placed along the perimeter of the toroid and not towards the center of the toroid, like in most of the electric motors. Despite that, a compass needle is still rotating even when placed in the center of the toroid, which is based on the theory should not have any magnetic flux getting outside the magnetic core. Did you see, I believe SciFi or History channel, a movie about Tesla museum with a rotating compass needle? There are some reports and patents, even very recent, that the net energy gain is obtained by moving around the magnetic flux in opposed to crossing it. Not sure if this is the case for Steven Mark, he is using a permanent magnet, but who knows.
Not a problem for me to use 40 kHz, however, using two rotating fields in different directions is also worth of testing.
Not bad at all. If you have any anomalies recorded, can you tell us about it?

Regards,

Kames.
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: starcruiser on September 14, 2006, 02:43:01 PM
Giantkiller,

Indeed very intersting. What are you using for the core of the torrid coils? is it ferromagnetic or a wood or plastic form?

So from what you are saying in your post you would pulse the coils in a clockwise and counter clockwise direction to create the interference points. So as I understand it the pulses would be a 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrees to create the moving fields. Am I understanding your concept correctly?

Thanks for the ideas.

Carl
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: Freedomfuel on September 14, 2006, 03:44:35 PM
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Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: mikestocks2006 on September 14, 2006, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: Freedomfuel on September 14, 2006, 03:44:35 PM
It looks as if you have really got something here Starcruiser.  With posts like this I bet that this forum is going to become a focus of intense interest for governments intelligence agencies. You can see plans for various magnetic devices including one that uses counter rotating magnet assemblies here:  www.magneticenergu.co.uk.  I believe that this is genuine insider information as revealed to non scientists so both the text and drawings are somewhat incoherent.  Have you seen the plans offered on the internet by Stan Deyo connected with his anti-gravity research?  They involve pulsed DC fed to air cored torroid coils. You can see the paper here: htp://www.americanantigravity.com/ documents/Stan-Deyo-Antigravity-2005.pdf

I assume that the four segments of each torroid are fed AC 90 degrees out of phase in order to make the rotating wave.  Why do you need the second smaller diameter toroid inside the main one?  Surely you could get the same effect by winding two sets of coils on the same former?  Also what is so significant about threvolutions of the wave being 40 kHz?  Must go they about to chuck me out here.  More queswtions later

Freedomfuel, it seems the links do not work?
neither does the one in the first post of this thread.
any other references available?
thx
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: gyulasun on September 14, 2006, 05:02:23 PM
Quote from: mikestocks2006 on September 14, 2006, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: Freedomfuel on September 14, 2006, 03:44:35 PM

www.magneticenergu.co.uk.   htp://www.americanantigravity.com/ documents/Stan-Deyo-Antigravity-2005.pdf

Freedomfuel, it seems the links do not work?
neither does the one in the first post of this thread.
any other references available?
thx

Hi,

There are typos in both links.  I managed to figure out the first correct link is: http://www.magneticenergy.org.uk/


And regarding the second link, the easiest thing to do is to copy and paste the following filename into www.google.com :                             

Stan-Deyo-Antigravity-2005.pdf   and then you can have it opened then save.

And regarding the link in the very first post, you can read info on it here:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Steve_Marks_Toroid_Generator and go down to:
Stefan Hartman Posts Video 
It was uploaded in Oct. 22, 2004 to http://ntint.ntinternals.net/  but this link is down.  Maybe Stefan still has these ZIP files available.

rgds
Gyula
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: starcruiser on September 14, 2006, 05:34:56 PM
Quote from: Freedomfuel on September 14, 2006, 03:44:35 PM
It looks as if you have really got something here Starcruiser.  With posts like this I bet that this forum is going to become a focus of intense interest for governments intelligence agencies. You can see plans for various magnetic devices including one that uses counter rotating magnet assemblies here:  www.magneticenergu.co.uk.  I believe that this is genuine insider information as revealed to non scientists so both the text and drawings are somewhat incoherent.  Have you seen the plans offered on the internet by Stan Deyo connected with his anti-gravity research?  They involve pulsed DC fed to air cored torroid coils. You can see the paper here: htp://www.americanantigravity.com/ documents/Stan-Deyo-Antigravity-2005.pdf

I assume that the four segments of each torroid are fed AC 90 degrees out of phase in order to make the rotating wave.  Why do you need the second smaller diameter toroid inside the main one?  Surely you could get the same effect by winding two sets of coils on the same former?  Also what is so significant about threvolutions of the wave being 40 kHz?  Must go they about to chuck me out here.  More queswtions later


Freedom,

Yes I had reviewed the video he did as well, I find similariities between the device Stan spoke of in the video and his paper as well as Giantkillers design/concept. All seem similar and I am interested in trying a few experiements albeit on a small scale initially. I am sure I will have more questions as I digest this a bit further as well.

I do agree on the interest of other agencies will be piqued regarding this forum since I believe that magnetics is the direction we need to follow and the government (probably several) most likely already knows way more than they are letting on and would rather keep it in the "bag".

Carl
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: raburgeson on September 14, 2006, 06:42:09 PM
Guys I am going to plead lazy ignorance here and ask you to spell it out, instead of talking among yourselves that have been following this steady I've spent the last week viewing the world through a camera lens in different counties and my eyes are shot. If I understand the requirements completely I might be able to figure out a simple generator for this. The links are being stomped on real hard, found the vids at Google.

Search Mark Stevens in video there.
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: mikestocks2006 on September 14, 2006, 07:27:46 PM
Quote from: gyulasun on September 14, 2006, 05:02:23 PM
Quote from: mikestocks2006 on September 14, 2006, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: Freedomfuel on September 14, 2006, 03:44:35 PM

www.magneticenergu.co.uk.   htp://www.americanantigravity.com/ documents/Stan-Deyo-Antigravity-2005.pdf

Freedomfuel, it seems the links do not work?
neither does the one in the first post of this thread.
any other references available?
thx

Hi,

There are typos in both links.  I managed to figure out the first correct link is: http://www.magneticenergy.org.uk/


And regarding the second link, the easiest thing to do is to copy and paste the following filename into www.google.com :                             

Stan-Deyo-Antigravity-2005.pdf   and then you can have it opened then save.

And regarding the link in the very first post, you can read info on it here:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Steve_Marks_Toroid_Generator and go down to:
Stefan Hartman Posts Video 
It was uploaded in Oct. 22, 2004 to http://ntint.ntinternals.net/  but this link is down.  Maybe Stefan still has these ZIP files available.

rgds
Gyula
Much appreciate it.
thx
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: giantkiller on September 15, 2006, 02:58:49 AM
To Starcruiser and the rest.
This category is going to grow fast from what I have released here.
Lets say that the clockwise ring goes at 40k, just to piss the FCC off. And the counterclockwise run goes 40k. The interference sweep will be 1:1 and the crossover point will be somewhere on the device.
Now lets crank up the CCW freq to 80k. The sweep ratio is now 1:2 so now there are 2 interference crossovers, 180 across from each other. There is a hidden effect now because if you have 10 lines of flux in each sweep then in each crossover will have 100 internal crossovers in both interference crossovers. And now the device is balanced and the gyroscopic effect should feel pretty strong.
Lets crank the CCW again to 120k. The interfence sweep will be 1:3 and puts us at a interfernce ratio of 1:300 * 120K hz which would be 360,000 harmonic revolutions now. Everything starts to aggresively multiply. The trick is to focus not on the physical revolutions but the power effect of the harmonics. It is really like a 'Butterfly effect'. Small movement magnified beyond extremes.
Now can everbody see how this directly correlates to any of the authentic UFO videos and what the ships do?
Once again. Tesla patented this. He never had any failures, think of that compared to other inventors. Tesla said that 'He dreams this shat up". So don't think any twist of words or logic will get you a patent. If you apply, you will get visitors. Because this application is the only one that doesn't have a follow on product commercially in our lives. Till now.
Back to the crank up. At some point, anomalies will show up. I suspect the order is gyroscopic effect, then levitation, then strange light patterns, then very high speeds.
To navigate horizontally, the harmonics can be shifted everso slightly by either raising the lower freq or lowering the higher freq.
Does everybody see that? Go back and look at some UFO videos again. We are talking very tight frequency control. What else would there be. Also, we are talking extreme overunity. All other attempts are useless.
My next step is to mount the coil to a platform and put in wire connections. I will post documentation also.
My center is iron core which is a 2 section of cut 6 in dia. pipe for like $10.00. You can get it at any metal yard. The wire is 16g dual conductor, 4 x 50'.
I am going to run my first test using my auto ignition wires, cylinders 1,2,3,4. I would really like a help step here. I am thinking of using ignition coils to drive each of the coils on the ring. If anybody has a design for this let me know. It would speed things up.
Like I posted prev that as I make steps I would release. I have kept my word so far. Because when I get to the 'PLAY' stage, this site is going to surpass Google in interest.
Right now I am in a three way, between building, documenting and design. My day job is getting in the way and I have been here all too often. And hey, If it isn't possible then explain the Gyroscopic effect in Steve Mark's coils. I believe that is free, right?

Let's rock! Betcha my ship flies first.
Eventually I'm gonna need very fat copper and a reactor... ;)

Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: PaulLowrance on September 15, 2006, 11:19:17 AM
Sounds interesting. I bought all of Al Bielek's audio CD's on the Philadelphia experiment. He describes the secret of time travel is to have a rotating magnetic and electric field inside a gravitational field. The gravity field is vertical, obviously, and the M & E fields are horizontal. A rotating magnetic field by itself has an electric field. At the correct frequency and sufficient power this supposedly causes problems with our space-time.

Regarding your interesting device, I'm wondering how efficient it is to generate a looping magnetic field around a steel toroid. Steel usually peters out within a few KHz.  You know what would be great for this device is a magnetite, Fe3O4, toroid core. This would great for extremely high frequencies. I've always wanted to make my own custom Fe3O4 cores. Anyone have any ideas how to do this? I know Fe3O4 melts just under 1600 C!  So the mold would have to be made of something like ceramic, which typically melts at around 1800 C. That sounds easy enough to get a slap of cheap ceramic and drill and chisel away a toroid or whatever shape you want. Then you could buy a container of powder Fe3O4, which is real cheap. I've bought this at chem. stores real cheap. You pour the Fe3O4 into the ceramic mold. The hardest part is building a high voltage power source that simply touches both sides of the Fe3O4 material in the mold, which causes a small amount of current, at high voltage, to heat up the Fe3O4. Given enough power the Fe3O4 melts. Of course you'll want this entire mold to be inside some type of heat-insulated oven. After you turn off the power source you quickly remove heat probes. You want the Fe3O4 to slowly cool down. Key word is "slowly."

Perhaps an easier method that does not require high voltage is to get a tungsten plate. Somehow you need to plate the entire mold shape with tungsten. The tungsten heats up when you pass current through it, which when hot enough will melt the FeO4.

Presto, you have one awesome nanocrystalline extremely efficient high frequency magnetic toroid or whatever shape you like.

Paul Lowrance
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: starcruiser on September 15, 2006, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: PaulLowrance on September 15, 2006, 11:19:17 AM
  You know what would be great for this device is a magnetite, Fe3O4, toroid core. This would great for extremely high frequencies. I've always wanted to make my own custom Fe3O4 cores. Anyone have any ideas how to do this? I know Fe3O4 melts just under 1600 C!  So the mold would have to be made of something like ceramic, which typically melts at around 1800 C. That sounds easy enough to get a slap of cheap ceramic and drill and chisel away a toroid or whatever shape you want. Then you could buy a container of powder Fe3O4, which is real cheap. I've bought this at chem. stores real cheap. You pour the Fe3O4 into the ceramic mold. The hardest part is building a high voltage power source that simply touches both sides of the Fe3O4 material in the mold, which causes a small amount of current, at high voltage, to heat up the Fe3O4. Given enough power the Fe3O4 melts. Of course you'll want this entire mold to be inside some type of heat-insulated oven. After you turn off the power source you quickly remove heat probes. You want the Fe3O4 to slowly cool down. Key word is "slowly."

Perhaps an easier method that does not require high voltage is to get a tungsten plate. Somehow you need to plate the entire mold shape with tungsten. The tungsten heats up when you pass current through it, which when hot enough will melt the FeO4.

Presto, you have one awesome nanocrystalline extremely efficient high frequency magnetic toroid or whatever shape you like.

Paul Lowrance


Paul,

How about using an expoxy base for the powder and a lined mold to prevent it from sticking?


Carl
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: PaulLowrance on September 15, 2006, 01:18:31 PM
Hi Carl,

That's too easy, lol.  Actually it's fine to add a binder, but it lowers the permeability. I think the reason companies add binders are because they like to add MnZn or Nizn, which are electrically conductive. Also binders strengthen the material since pure magnetite is not as strong as typical ferrite core.

If say pure Fe3O4 has permeability of 25000 then any idea what the perm would be with minimum amount of binder?

Actually, if we're going to add a binder then perhaps highly pure iron power (extremely small particle size) would work. I know extremely pure solid iron has permeability over one million.

Paul Lowrance
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: Elvis Oswald on September 16, 2006, 12:17:03 AM
Giantkiller...  Good ideas - I thought I'd suggest a couple of things. :)

There's a thread hear somewhere - someone was making coils with his son.  I forget the name of the coil... but it's basically wound by taking a very long wire and "folding it in half" and then again, and again... VVVVVVVVVV <--like that... or V in your case of a two-wire wrap... a 200 ft piece would get you a 100ft dual-conductor/opposing- current winding.

I also wanted to ask if you were creating a resonate LC circuit tuned to match your input.

Peace :)
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: Elvis Oswald on September 16, 2006, 12:43:48 AM
Quote from: Freedomfuel on October 23, 2005, 04:49:22 PM

1.Someone who is determined to rip off investors is hardly likely to invest a lot of money in laboratory facilities.

2. In the video Marks claims that the source of the energy his device extracts is the earth's magnetic field.  This is, I believe, correct and it is also confirmed by a statement by one of the Disclosure Project's 'insiders'.

3. The device only works when the axis of the coil is vertical and it ceases to work when the coil is turned upside down.  This is consistant with the principle that such devices function by beaming a signal into the ionosphere which is reflected back magnified.

4. In the video Marks demonstrates a bright flash of light when the output of his coil is short circuited.  This bright flash of light is a phenomenon associated with magnetic current or 'cold electricity' as it sometimes called.

5. The strange inertia effect when the coil is moved in one of the videos suggests that a motor driven commutator inside the coil is being used to switch on and off segments of the coil.  See the animated giff from the same archive for ideas how such mechanical commutation could be used to create a rotating magnetic wave from a torroidal coil.

6. The fact that a magnet needs to be connected to the coil in order for it to work is typical of all such devices since they require pulsing of permanent magnets.


All very good points.  :)  I have been skeptical of it myself... but Steven does not appear to be gaining anything financially from this... and I can't think of any other reason to try and hoax this.

On #5 though - I don't agree that there's a mechanical force involved... ie "no moving parts".

Also... are there steel wires in his device??  The steel would become magnetized as long as the magnet was attached... if that's what it took to make the coil more sensitive... or make it "appear" closer to half-wave in size... that would explain why the device turned off when the magnet was pulled.
This makes more sense than the magnet creating current in the coil to "kick"start the thing... which I have thought, and is a good theory... but I like this one better :)

Does a magnet touching steel change the resonance of the steel?  I guess it would.  And technically it's not so much the size of the antenna... it's the mass... and the mass makes it resonate at a certain freq.
Antennas do need to be related to the size of the wave... but the resonance of the mass is what's important... it just happens that a size related the wave you want is the right mass.

A tank circuit shows anomolous spikes when the input is at the resonate freq.  Isn't this like the LC circuit in your radio... and the reason you never tune dead on a freq??  So if you tune dead on... your antenna didn't get bigger - you just made the radio a resonate LC circuit.

I guess my point is that magnetized steel may make a better receiver of the schuman freq.

Peace!
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: PaulLowrance on September 16, 2006, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: Freedomfuel4. In the video Marks demonstrates a bright flash of light when the output of his coil is short circuited.  This bright flash of light is a phenomenon associated with magnetic current or 'cold electricity' as it sometimes called.

This type of flash matches high frequency arcing. We know that magnetic materials (soft, hard, PM's, any type) contain high frequencies typically from ~100 MHz to several GHz, but can be significantly lower. Most people are not aware of the tremendous energy exchange occurring per quarter cycle within such magnetic materials. This is Magnetocaloric energy. In some materials it's high enough to increase the materials temperature by 7 F per quarter cycle. That's a whole lot of joules. If our frequency is 50 KHz then that's 200000 quarter cycles per second. Enough to increase the materials temperature by 7 F * 200000 = 1,400,000 F in just one second !

In other words, the material radiates a tremendous amount of energy per quarter cycle, but also absorbs nearly all that energy. The trick is preventing the magnetic material from absorbing that vast amount of Magnetocaloric energy. This is typical ac current in a transformer or inductor. In legitimate "free energy" devices you'll note that in nearly every case there is an applied DC magnetic field, which flips the process and also sometimes can change it to half cycle energy exchanges instead of quarter.

Paul Lowrance
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: tishatang on September 16, 2006, 11:28:07 PM
Hi!

The coil my son and I built was this technique.

http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/mobiuscontinuosknot.htm

We used about one half lb  number 16 guage magnet wire.

I could feel the slight kick  in my hand turning it on.

I don't think the mobius knot is necessay.  The important thing is to wind the looped wire with a drill to get as close to 46 degrees as possible.  That way the return current crosses at 90 degrees as in the caduses coil.
This 90 degree crossing is what supposedly creates a scalar wave.  Also, some say one fold is all that is necessay.  If you have fine wire, fold it twice.

tishatang
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: Elvis Oswald on September 17, 2006, 01:34:22 AM
tishatang... I think I might experiment with trying to twist a cable around another cable - to make two concentric coils... and see what kind of power I can get on the secondary with different configurations...
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: giantkiller on September 17, 2006, 07:01:22 AM
I am simply trying to reproduce the SM3, SM6, SM17 coils(Steven Mark). And I feel the Telsa rotating magnetic field has some bearing on the design. Am I right Mr. Mark? If 2 coils were interacting the same way that we see everday then the buzz is normal. But we have gyroscopic properties. That tells me we have 2 benefits. This 'KICK' power collection and magnetic gyroscopy. The SM coils have this. The low frequency is one range of operation for the power. But at higher speeds I believe the gyroscopy goes alot further in other benefits. After all, Tesla mention the rotating magnetic field and he didn't waste time with idle ideas.

I have a 2nd question to Mr. Mark:
Do the 3", 6" and the 17" all have the same circuitry design with only proportional changes for size? Obvious question from a 'Monkey see, monkey do'. prospective.
I do notice that the SM3 and SM6 only have 1 switch while the SM17 has 2. Is this for a larger field timing issue, two seperate clock circuits? Also for air core design, did you use any material as a base to wrap the wire around?
Thank you.
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: giantkiller on September 17, 2006, 08:47:55 PM
Dude, they're in the videos that Steven is demo-ing. The 3" and 6" have 1 switch and the SM17 has two. It is very clear. ;)
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: Freedomfuel on September 24, 2006, 04:44:41 PM
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Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: PaulLowrance on September 24, 2006, 05:59:23 PM
Quote from: FreedomfuelTo Paul Lowrance

What is this Magnetocaloric energy that you write of?  Can we have some references please?

Hi Freedomfuel,

Magnetocaloric energy is the energy that's exchanged during the Magnetocaloric effect, an effect contained within all magnetic materials. This varies between magnetic materials. Ideally you want material that has inherently high potential energy. This amount of inherent energy is determined by crystal structure of intrinsic electron spins. Ideally, the best type of material is one where the moments are in chaos with no applied field, but turn ferromagnetic with an applied field. Such a state of chaos offers the highest potential energy state. A fully saturated ferromagnetic material offers the lowest potential state. That's why Gadolinium offers one of the best Magnetocaloric materials because at room temperature very few of the magnetic moments are in alignment. This lack of alignment offers high potential energy. When the field is applied the magnetic moments align, which is where the kinetic energy arises.

So how much energy are we talking about? Gadolinium compounds can change 7 F per 1/4 cycle. I calculated that one cubic inch of such material exchanges 115.8 J per quarter cycle, which is 463.2 J per cycle. At 100 KHz there's 46320000 (46.32 MJ) joules per second or 46.32 million watts. That is a whole lot of energy exchange per second in just one tiny cubic inch of material my friend!  Now granted iron at room temperature does not exchange that much energy, but it's not terribly far off.

So where is the energy going? IMHO most of the energy exchange occurs by radiation. What is happening is electrons and atoms are flip during avalanches. This generates a wide bandwidth of radiation typically hundreds of MHz. The electron is a magnetic moment. When it flips it generates electromagnetic waves. Most of this energy is absorbed by nearby atoms in the crystal structure.

The trick is to prevent the magnetic material from absorbing the radiation. I know a person who knows exactly how to do this. It uses conventional science. This is very real and has been known for over one month now. The only reason I can now tell you this is because this information is now secured. If I for example am removed from society then this research will be revealed in its entirety.

Paul Lowrance
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: gn0stik on September 27, 2006, 05:19:16 PM
Quote from: PaulLowrance on September 24, 2006, 05:59:23 PM
Quote from: FreedomfuelTo Paul Lowrance

What is this Magnetocaloric energy that you write of?  Can we have some references please?

Hi Freedomfuel,

Magnetocaloric energy is the energy that's exchanged during the Magnetocaloric effect, an effect contained within all magnetic materials. This varies between magnetic materials. Ideally you want material that has inherently high potential energy. This amount of inherent energy is determined by crystal structure of intrinsic electron spins. Ideally, the best type of material is one where the moments are in chaos with no applied field, but turn ferromagnetic with an applied field. Such a state of chaos offers the highest potential energy state. A fully saturated ferromagnetic material offers the lowest potential state. That's why Gadolinium offers one of the best Magnetocaloric materials because at room temperature very few of the magnetic moments are in alignment. This lack of alignment offers high potential energy. When the field is applied the magnetic moments align, which is where the kinetic energy arises.

So how much energy are we talking about? Gadolinium compounds can change 7 F per 1/4 cycle. I calculated that one cubic inch of such material exchanges 115.8 J per quarter cycle, which is 463.2 J per cycle. At 100 KHz there's 46320000 (46.32 MJ) joules per second or 46.32 million watts. That is a whole lot of energy exchange per second in just one tiny cubic inch of material my friend!  Now granted iron at room temperature does not exchange that much energy, but it's not terribly far off.

So where is the energy going? IMHO most of the energy exchange occurs by radiation. What is happening is electrons and atoms are flip during avalanches. This generates a wide bandwidth of radiation typically hundreds of MHz. The electron is a magnetic moment. When it flips it generates electromagnetic waves. Most of this energy is absorbed by nearby atoms in the crystal structure.

The trick is to prevent the magnetic material from absorbing the radiation. I know a person who knows exactly how to do this. It uses conventional science. This is very real and has been known for over one month now. The only reason I can now tell you this is because this information is now secured. If I for example am removed from society then this research will be revealed in its entirety.

Paul Lowrance


How many tesla of a field is required for this to occur? Because we are constantly immersed in magnetic fields, and they obviously don't cause this effect.

Paul, can you email me so I can read a bit more on this discovery?
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: PaulLowrance on September 27, 2006, 11:36:56 PM
Quote from: gn0stikHow many tesla of a field is required for this to occur? Because we are constantly immersed in magnetic fields, and they obviously don't cause this effect.

Paul, can you email me so I can read a bit more on this discovery?

Hi gn0stik,

Actually the effect is present, even in Earths fluctuating magnetic field. The MCE (Magnetocaloric effect) is very well accepted in the science community and was verified ages ago. I have personally verified MCE myself. The effect works in all fields, but the effect intensity varies with field strength among various other factors.

Here's a basic description:
http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae488.cfm

QuoteQuestion

What is the magnetocaloric effect and what materials exhibit this effect the most?

Asked by: Tim Michnick

Answer

Some magnetic materials heat up when they are placed in a magnetic field and cool down when they are removed from a magnetic field. This is known as the magnetocaloric effect.

This effect was discovered by E. Warburg in 1881 in pure iron. The size of the effect has been around .5 to 2?C per Tesla change in magnetic field. One Tesla is about 20,000 times the earth's magnetic field.

Recently, alloys of gadolinium, germanium and silicon have produces a much larger effect size of 3 to 4?C per Tesla change. The general equation for this material is; Gd_5(Si_xGe_1-x)_4, where x=0.5.

Experimental refrigerators based on the magnetocaloric effect have been tested in laboratories using magnetic fields of around 5T produced by superconducting magnets. http://www.cfs.me.uvic.ca/PAGES/amr.html

Paul Lowrance
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: Dingus Mungus on September 28, 2006, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: PaulLowrance on September 24, 2006, 05:59:23 PM

So how much energy are we talking about? Gadolinium compounds can change 7 F per 1/4 cycle. I calculated that one cubic inch of such material exchanges 115.8 J per quarter cycle, which is 463.2 J per cycle. At 100 KHz there's 46320000 (46.32 MJ) joules per second or 46.32 million watts. That is a whole lot of energy exchange per second in just one tiny cubic inch of material my friend!  Now granted iron at room temperature does not exchange that much energy, but it's not terribly far off.


Then the question remains if you where to apply an alternating (AC) electromagnetic field at the given 100Khz to a 1^3" cube of Gadolinium. What would be the input wattage required to achieve overunity heating of the material? This is a overunity heat producing technology correct? Is it more efficient then say common heating elements? I'm quite intrigued by anything that can produce quantifiable anomalous heat. Please keep us all in the loop as you release more data.

Thank you for this new avenue of interest,
~Dingus
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: PaulLowrance on September 28, 2006, 01:40:43 PM
Hi Dingus and everyone,

There is nothing terribly special about Gadolinium as far as magnetocaloric effect except it's generally twice as effective as iron, roughly speaking.

The energy that I have been referring to comes from potential energy within the magnetic material. To get a very basic understanding where this energy is coming from just take two disc magnets that are opposing each other; i.e., their fields cancel out and the repel each other. Now allow the magnets to rotate so they align and you will see the magnets will accelerate as they rotate. That is magnetocaloric energy.

The amount of input energy really depends on the materials Permeability and Hysteresis. The input energy is usually an infinitesimal amount of energy compared to the energy exchanges occurring within the magnetic material.

The idea of this research is not to collect the energy in the form of heat. Rather, it is to collect the energy in the form of electricity!  A great deal of this internal magnetocaloric energy exchange is in the form of electromagnetic radiation. There are a lot of specific reasons why nearly 100% of this energy remains within the material.

1. The field is inside the material and therefore shorts out the field. Have you ever taken a magnet and then shorted its entire loop path with soft iron? You will see that nearly all the magnetic field no longer escapes the magnet because the iron is shorting its field.
2. Such radiation for most magnetic materials is for the most part in the hundreds of MHz. This high frequency radiation is easily absorbed by the magnetic material.
3. When the electron flips it precesses a great deal at a high rate and loses a lot of energy in the form of friction. You can prevent this by guiding the spin in 90-degree increments.

I mentioned that nearly 50 megawatts of energy is exchanged in Gadolinium and roughly 25 megawatts for iron. That sounds like a lot and you are probably wondering why the material does not explode with heat. As mentioned, when the applied field is removed the material experiences an opposite effect, cooling. This happens because the vibrating atoms knock the spins back out of alignment. This requires energy. So picture an atom hitting the other atom, which applies force. This force knocks the electron spin out of alignment. So the atom that hit the other atom slows down.

BTW, the person from NASA who contacted me confirmed my theory. He agrees on the second half of my theory, but does not understand the first half. I firmly believe this is because he is accustomed to thinking terms of "terms" and mathematics. It is a pity the way Nikola Tesla thought is a rarity. Basically the NASA guy calls it an "energy exchange" where as I describe the step-by-step process in detail.  Nikola Tesla knew how the think. You break down the fundamental forces and simulate every step in your mind.  For example, the subatomic world is not so simple as drawing a nice little wiggly photon moving from one particle to the next. It simply does not work that way! No particle can absorb 100% of another particles energy. That is such a basic concept that is even proven mathematically and by studying wave fundamentals. If I had the time and anyone who was interested I could explain this in a step-by-step process using very well accepted science. Wrap a coil around any magnetic material, hook it up to your speaker amplifier system, and hear the avalanche noises when a magnet is moved toward and away the iron demonstrates that not all the radiation is being absorbed.

Regards,
Paul Lowrance
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: supersam on September 29, 2006, 09:41:29 PM
paul,

what does moving a magnet toward, or away from the speaker actually do?  when you approach it with the magnet i'll give you ther is a current appearently induced.  when you move the magnet away i'll give you there is apparently a current induced.  but what happens when you take the magnet close and just set it down?

lol
sam

ps: how do you think this applies to the magnetocaloric effect?
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: supersam on September 30, 2006, 12:33:12 AM
giantkiller,

sorry, i guess i was thinking of myself, there for a minute, as a magnetic wave outside the loop.  i was cruising around, when i bumped into this really huge dude, and i realized i hadn't eaten in a real long time and was about to run out of energy.  well thank goodness this bad dude was only, non-other-than, the EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD, WHEW, i thought i was a goner and this dude fed me and sent me back!

lol
sam

ps: of course when i got back i was full, but that didn't really help me in the crunched up quarters of the middle of the TOROID!

TO BE CONTINUED
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: PaulLowrance on September 30, 2006, 10:14:16 AM
Hi supersam,

First we need to realize that most of the magnetic field that occurs in magnetic material comes from the intrinsic electron spins within the iron. So by moving a magnet to iron you are applying a magnetic field to the iron. This causes avalanche effects within the iron. An avalanche is usually millions of electrons flipping. Simply put you can think of the electron flip as a permanent magnetic that rotates and reverses direction. So within magnetic materials such as iron are countless tiny magnets.

When you move a permanent magnetic near iron you are applying a magnet field. This causes avalanches within the iron. These are electrons flipping, which generate electromagnetic waves. Nearly all these electromagnetic waves are absorbed by the magnetic material, but the coil hooked up to your speaker can pick up the faint signals.

Paul Lowrance
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: supersam on September 30, 2006, 12:44:39 PM
paul,

thanks for the information.  i think i can now understand, why the current stops flowing when the magnet stops.  when you move the magnet away again i guess you just start the whole avalanche over again? or is this more like hitting the rewind button?  ???

sam

ps: i am guessing since it would be in a different "time" that it is like starting the avalanche again only in a different direction????
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: PaulLowrance on October 01, 2006, 01:04:39 AM
Hi supersam,

In iron or any electrically conductive magnetic material there are Eddy currents caused by a moving magnetic field such as the permanent magnetic, but this energy is infinitesimal compared to the magnetocaloric energy.  The eddy currents loop in the iron as the magnetic field moves due to induction. The magnetocaloric effect is similar except on a far smaller grander scale, but it is directly caused by the unpaired electrons within the iron and not the applied magnetic field. The permanent magnetic is the applied magnetic.

When you move the magnet closer the iron the spins flip to align with the magnet. These are the avalanches. When you move the magnet away the spins flip back to their original alignment.

Paul Lowrance
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: PaulLowrance on October 01, 2006, 01:15:08 AM
Quote from: PaulLowranceI mentioned that nearly 50 megawatts of energy is exchanged in Gadolinium and roughly 25 megawatts for iron.

I notice that I made a mistake regarding iron. I forgot to consider that iron has a different heat capacity than Gd. Iron has roughly the same magnetocaloric energy exchanges as Gadolinium, which is nearly 50 megawatts in our example, not just 25 megawatts.

Of course these values are at near curie temperature. Since Gd is at curie temperature at room temperature and iron is not therefore Gd experiences far more magnetocaloric energy exchanges at room temperature. This is due to the Gd electron spins being nearly entirely randomized at room temp. where irons spins are in alignment within domains, but not in totality.

Ferrites containing MnZn should experience higher magnetocaloric energy exchanges at room temp. than say iron.

Paul Lowrance
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: supersam on October 01, 2006, 01:14:24 AM
paul,
sounds to me like they would then be redy for another avalanche.
WATCH OUT! :o

SM
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: PaulLowrance on October 01, 2006, 01:24:40 AM
supersam, you have near instant reply, lol. Are you part cyborg.   8)

For those who want to see the math ->

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1565.0.html

Paul Lowrance
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: PaulLowrance on October 01, 2006, 12:30:26 PM
@All

I decided it is time to post a major part of the secret to extracting energy from MCE ->

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1565.msg13373.html#msg13373

Paul Lowrance
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: lynx2000nl on October 29, 2006, 03:38:56 PM
Quote from: hartiberlin on January 30, 2006, 07:40:12 AM
Yes, I agree, most of the stories about him are just made up by disinformation agents.
He also was harrassed. I tried to find people who were involved and all only don?t want to say anything about it.
Also the guys who published the things about him can?t be reached anymore or they don?t answer emails...

He also wrote me lately that he was harrassed by agencies and had fear about his live.
So we will see, what will still come out of all this soon. I hope he will publish soon some secrets
about his invention.

Regards, Stefan.

I think the way Steven Mark his aparatus worked is discribed in the next image.
At least, the device shown there actually works. It pump out tremendous amounts of free electric energy. It is a basic diagram. But what it shows actually works. Just have a look and think about it.

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi125.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp51%2Frenerator%2Ffreeenergy.jpg&hash=9e2826c09c74270c8b57c1f527a92d8a44d4d1bd)

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/renerator/freeenergy.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/renerator/freeenergy.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve Marks Device May Be Authentic
Post by: FreeEnergy on October 29, 2006, 04:16:01 PM
this stuff is a bit too much for me, i am no electrician. for this kind of stuff i would need step by step instruction for building it.

Quote from: lynx2000nl on October 29, 2006, 03:38:56 PM
Quote from: hartiberlin on January 30, 2006, 07:40:12 AM
Yes, I agree, most of the stories about him are just made up by disinformation agents.
He also was harrassed. I tried to find people who were involved and all only don?t want to say anything about it.
Also the guys who published the things about him can?t be reached anymore or they don?t answer emails...

He also wrote me lately that he was harrassed by agencies and had fear about his live.
So we will see, what will still come out of all this soon. I hope he will publish soon some secrets
about his invention.

Regards, Stefan.

I think the way Steven Mark his aparatus worked is discribed in the next image.
At least, the device shown there actually works. It pump out tremendous amounts of free electric energy. It is a basic diagram. But what it shows actually works. Just have a look and think about it.

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi125.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp51%2Frenerator%2Ffreeenergy.jpg&hash=9e2826c09c74270c8b57c1f527a92d8a44d4d1bd)

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/renerator/freeenergy.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/renerator/freeenergy.jpg)