i work at a golf course so i'm out before sun up, and all day on my machine i could see them spraying, (central ontario 40min north of toronto) could see at least 4 at a time doing their patterns way way up, and the weather said it would be sunny with clouds, but the only clouds i see are chem trail clouds :|.
edit: most of the clouds were southernly.
I suspect those chemicals are connected to the disappearance of birds and honey bee's.
Regards...
yeah i get the impression that USA is one big massive slow gas chamber.
good luck to the folks who live there.
Freaky, I just wanna leave!!! :-[
Howdy Y'all,
I think you are confusing chemtrails with contrails. You know, condensation trails, the trail of water vapor that a jet aircraft leaves in its wake due to the low pressure on the trailing edge of the wing. The white stripes across the sky that jets leave in their paths. Yeah, that it water vapor that is turned into micro water droplets caused by the sudden decrease in pressure on the trailing edge of the wings, and or the engine nacelles...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrail
Blessed Be...
Hey Z,
I was around at the start of the 'jet age'...thev Vapor trails dissipate very quickly.
As opposed to the white chemical plume, that turns a clear blue sky into a milky haze.
You can still see the commercial jets pass over...and their vapor trails dissolve quickly, as before.
Those chemtrails actually contain deadly pathogenic orgaiisms.
Recent information indicates that French air force jets are spraying the chemicals in north america.
Regards...
Howdy Cap,
I think I have just seen what you are talking about. I see contrails on commercial aircraft all the time. When the air is humid or cold the contrails are more prevalent. Today the air is warm and dry and the commercial aircraft are not leaving the contrails. But I saw some very high altitude aircraft this morning that had a plume of smoke or vapor behind them. This is related to an event I witnessed this morning. I documented it over in the 10/14/2008 thread. I understand the difference now. Unimaginable collusion...
Blessed Be...
Hey z,
I was not aware that weather had an effect on vapor trails...but I know for sure that I have seen both chem and vapor trails at the same time.
I believe neuro toxins and weather manipulation are partly involved in the spraying.
A Syrian torture camp would be too mild a punishment for those responsible.
Regards...
Well, chemtrails (sprayed or caused by additives to jet fuel) do filter/block "stuff" coming from outer space, but the wrong kind...
Howdy Orbs,
You mean the chemtrails are optically blocking stuff from outer space or are they blocking EM radiation? I have heard that the Galactic Federation plans on removing the ozone layer in the upper atmosphere because it is optically blocking our view of certain objects in space that would verify that there is intelligent life, life that is way more advanced than us. Does this have something to do with what you are talking about concerning the chemtrails?
Blessed Be...
Quote from: z.monkey on September 23, 2008, 04:49:21 PMYou mean the chemtrails are optically blocking stuff from outer space or are they blocking EM radiation?
No, I don't mean optical, but still mostly coming from (or through) our sun. So that would be a different thing.
I just did a YAHOO search on CHEMTRAILS & found 4,860,000 sites trying to warn people.
If you disbelieve, then do a Yahoo search like I did.
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Maybe the chemtrails are used to introduce high level ozone.
Chem trails i think are mostly for weather modification and for haarp to bounce off the clouds
Barium (Ba)
Magnesium (Mg)
Calcium (Ca)
Titanium (Ti)
Aluminum (Al)
http://www.carnicom.com/precip1.htm (http://www.carnicom.com/precip1.htm)
found this too
http://www.weathermod.com/ (http://www.weathermod.com/)
kinda creapy if you ask me
from the haarp patent
http://www.bariumblues.com/haarp_patent.htm (http://www.bariumblues.com/haarp_patent.htm)
It has also been proposed to release large clouds of barium in
the magnetosphere so that photoionization will increase the cold
plasma density, thereby producing electron precipitation through
enhanced whistler-mode interaction.
http://www.bariumblues.com/ (http://www.bariumblues.com/)
Quote from: PYRODIN123321 on September 24, 2008, 03:01:30 PM
Chem trails i think are mostly for weather modification and for haarp to bounce off the clouds
Barium (Ba)
Magnesium (Mg)
Calcium (Ca)
Titanium (Ti)
Aluminum (Al)
http://www.carnicom.com/precip1.htm (http://www.carnicom.com/precip1.htm)
Hi PYRODIN,
Good call! I think these are major reasons/uses for chemtrails too.
Also, as of late many governments have attained stealth technologies involving not just radar invisibility but also invisibility accross the full EM spectrum. It's not full invisibility per-se but it makes things much more difficult to spot. But in a chemhazed sky the wake of any craft becomes visible because the haze gets disturbed and satellites or radar can then see the trail left behind the craft much like the wake of a boat in the sea, it's part of the starwars program that Ronald Reagen was babbling about. All NATO countries and many others are all in a stupid arms race, hence everybody and their children get sprayed with unhealthy crap.
I'm sure there are many other uses and spinoffs for chemtrails too, if they can add some other crap into the mix in order to exercise a liitle more control then I'm sure the stupid fools will.
Best, Fraser.
P.S. I lately vowed to myself not to enter non OU related discussions on this forum, but chemtrails REALLY get my goat up, because I've always been a keen skywatcher and I have seen these things get more prevelant over the last 20 years or so.
What about the pathogenic organisms contained in the plume?
I cannot see any connection between harmful organisms in chem trails, to anything other than depopulation...something government documents reveal has been discussed more than once at high levels.
If it was good for us, they would be up front about them.
Regards...
I have a friend in Australia........
He says he sees HUGE ammounts of chemtrails. The usual line from the "Establishment" is that its vapour trails, but water vapour doesnt turn into oily milky muck that hangs in the air. He knows of one chap who works for an undisclosed govt avaition dept who also gives the company line, but when really questioned hard about it sort of goes quiet about it....hmmm.....
Interstingly, as the "Establishment" push the global warming lie more and more, the spraying activity is frantic just before a big rain dump occurs - its like watching this pathetic attempt to prop up the global warming hysteria and then God just says "Nope boys, I'm in control here and its going to rain" - and it does. Must drive the pagan NWO boys insane with rage - ha ha ......suffer.......
http://www.weatherwars.info ( run by a weatehr forecaster ) documents scalar ( HAARP ) activity and clouds affected by HAARP.
Over Australian capital cities, according to my friend, he sees many HAARP signatures in clouds just after spraying. He has also seen huge holes open up in clouds and clouds just dissolve away. This ability to use HAARP ( Scalar Technology ) to dissolve clouds creates convenient manufactured "proof" that "global warming" is stopping it raining - when in fact if people looked up int he sky, they would see that weather is being artificially modified. In Australia, because its is such a dry continent, modifying the weather is critical as it supports the global warming lie for the NWO.
Has anyone actualy identified the planes spraying? Are they modified commercial or military ( painted to look commercial ) ?
One big problem for the NWO is that people are now starting to smell a rat. They still find it hard to believe that weather can be modified, but Australians can smell bullsh*t a mile off, and I think the NWO are going to find it hard going in the long term once Australians blood is up. According to my friend, there is compelling evidence that the Bali bmb was a micro nuke MADM device designed to hit hard psychologically at a spot most Aussies found to be safe orginally - Bali. The reason for this - Aussie public wouldnt support the invasion of Iraq, so the NWO needed to create a nationalistic hysteria event to "modify" Aussies "faulty" thinking - the result was the Bali bmb micro nuke. interstingly, an Australian Army person in Balia said the lights went out just before the main blast - a tell tale sign of the EMP from a nuke based blast destroying anything electrical. Apparently the clean up crews turned up in radiation suits - now how would they know to bring those?
I digress, but you see the NWO grubby evil finger prints all over Australia in many ways.
We also have issues with bees disappearing too......
May God protect us from this evil.
disapearing bees might be a side effect of the elf em wave disrupting them or the metals may be contaminating the flower/bee relationship(i'm sure it doesnt help when you got barrium in the pollen)
and a million other things we do to our enviro
also I wonder if haarp might not partialy a free energy device, tesla said there was a lot of energy coming in from space, maybe the gov. has perfected this and weather mods were just a lucky bonus
There is NO doubt by those who've done their homework, that solar radiation mitigation is but one of the designed effects. I've been posting online about this global threat for years now. I have quite an archive of videos and photos here at home of their harrassments. Whenever I post any of my articles online, our small town gets blasted within minutes or hours....directly overhead. On at least one occasion, they sprayed low level....turned the town to fog, my mother almost died and was hospitalized for a week. I was actually coughing up bits of lung tissue.
You see, the Bible reveals that our Father in heaven would send the 4th Angel to pour out his bowl upon the sun, and men on the earth would experience great heat, but instead of repenting for their treachery, would instead curse Him all the more....
Here's a video of the latest blitz.....one of all too many.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1794827/chemtrails_galore/
So, you see, they fight God's judgements in every way they can. Tens of thousands the world over have perished already as a direct result to their evils. Also, stay away from processed foods...they are stepping up their depopulation efforts their as well. A toxic soup, the landscape becomes.....will you sell your soul for a bowl of soup like Edom did? I've noticed that those who carry the beast's mark are curiously unaffected by much of the spraying. I guess they bargained their pitiful souls cheaply for the 'antidote'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
http://www.hornes.org/theologia/mark-horne/what-is-the-worth-of-666-talents-of-gold
http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewcommentary.php?storyid=156
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html
So, you see, when the bible warns us "Here is wisdom, let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man...." it is directing us to look toward the fallen solomon, who is highly revered among the increasingly not so secret societies and counterfeit Israel, both use the 6 pointed star, seal of solomon in their ritual abominations....
So, now there should be no mystery as to who the beast and it's little horn are....they are self declared devil worshippers following after solomon and taking his seal for their own exactly as foretold to us in God's Holy Word. Too bad so many are willing to kill and be killed on behalf of these duped minion leaders.
God bless these sorely mislead minions of the evil one.....and Father, send Yeshua, Jesus Christ soon, please.
I read a report where French air force jets were spraying chemtrails in north america.
...if I had a rocket launcher.
Regards...
Of all the ones I have seen, they are american white birds with no markings but for the American flag on the tail. I don't know about french planes.....although, regarding the rocket launcher comment....they would love some militaristic fool to react to their brand of violence with more violence. That's how wars begin, and they sorely wish an armed insurrection as they have most of their chess pieces in place.
Except the King, of course.
And He is coming right on time....although too slowly for the impatient ones who give up the faith, saying: "My master is delaying."
And on the day He and His army of Angels arrive in the sky, we are foretold that the kings and mighty military commanders will beat themselves in grief, trying to hide under rocks (underground bunkers as well?) they will even try and kill themselves, but death itself, will escape them!
Those who TRULY belong to Yeshua, Jesus Christ, King of Kings......are more than happy to let Him dispose of the matter once and for all time, with His own weapon of choice!
Google: Talmud Truths
Christ says: 'And I will cause all of those who call themselves Jews and are not, but do lie, to come and bow before your feet'
So, the world leaders and their masters, the antiChrists.....days are numbered.
And a small number it has become, indeed.
With all due respect, before you start declaring people militaristic fools you may wish to google some history a little more recent to the scriptures you quote from.
You will find that brutal dictators do not fall off their perches...they always have to be knocked off.
No conceptualized deities have stepped in to save the day... despite the carnage of innocents.
To be accurate no deities wrote any of the scriptures found to date.
And we all know how reliable the words of men are.
So here we sit...do we wait for Godot...or do we get up off our asses and start kicking some privileged ass ?
Regards...
QuoteWith all due respect, before you start declaring people militaristic fools you may wish to google some history a little more recent to the scriptures you quote from.
I'm certainly willing to defer to the forum as a whole as to whether or not firing an anti-aircraft missile at supposed french chemtrail planes qualifies one as a militaristic fool.....
And regarding the scriptures, I am also certain, as history has shown, that Christ did more for mankind with His Holy Spirit filled voice than all the weapons amassed during any age.
After all, it was He who taught conclusively that violence begets violence....
Even now He calls for His children to be as cautious as the serpent, yet harmless as doves.
"He who will take up the sword shall die by it."
If Earth is to undergo one more 'revolution' it will only serve, as have all the others, to demonstrate conclusively that man only ends up dominating his fellow man to his own injury. And is thoroughly lacking in the ability for sustainable self rule.
"Patience worketh perfectness."
"Let vengeance be mine, sayeth Yahweh!"
I will bring to ruin, those ruining the Earth!"
Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ,
TS
Quote from: TechStuf on October 16, 2008, 09:55:15 PM
I'm certainly willing to defer to the forum as a whole as to whether or not firing an anti-aircraft missile at supposed french chemtrail planes qualifies one as a militaristic fool.....
And regarding the scriptures, I am also certain, as history has shown, that Christ did more for mankind with His Holy Spirit filled voice than all the weapons amassed during any age.
After all, it was He who taught conclusively that violence begets violence....
Even now He calls for His children to be as cautious as the serpent, yet harmless as doves.
"He who will take up the sword shall die by it."
If Earth is to undergo one more 'revolution' it will only serve, as have all the others, to demonstrate conclusively that man only ends up dominating his fellow man to his own injury. And is thoroughly lacking in the ability for sustainable self rule.
"Patience worketh perfectness."
"Let vengeance be mine, sayeth Yahweh!"
I will bring to ruin, those ruining the Earth!"
Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ,
TS
history shows us that millions have been murdered in the name of christ. and that same history shows us very little factual evidence of his existence. strange how there are almost no roman records of this king of kings. save one or was it two vague references. the only "historical" evidence (and i am using the broadest definition of historical now) of your jesus/heyzeus is your bible. hardly convincing evidence considering the rest of its content.
as far as teaching violence begetting violence, is that why he (jesus/heyzeus) beat the money lenders at the temple? to show violence begets violence or because he was a hypocrite.
he who shall take up the sword shall die by it... yet in the garden of gethsemane he (jesus/heyzeus) has his disciples arm themselves and peter chops off some ear.
your bible is full of paradox, it's a joke. hell, jesus couldn't even take his 'destiny' like an immortal. he cried and whined and aked if it was possible to have this cup pass from him. socrates stands far above jesus/heyzeus... at least socrates took his cup of poison with dignity.
You seem bent on trying to characterize me in a negative light because of my usage of the title of a Bruce Cockburn song to restate metaphorically, the need for revolution...which I openly advocate on here and other venues
I have been here a while and 'the forum' knows where I stand on things.
And You are still quoting the words of dead guys who said they spoke with god... who could easily have been the Oral Humbard's, Jimmy and Tammy Fae Baker's of the day.
Not that there isn't sound advice and logic in the scriptures...just that the manipulatores of the times inserted their violence, vengance, hatred, and fear mongering crowd control passages into the mix.
I'm really not interested in getting involved in net oneupmanship, so lets just leave it at that...have a good evening.
Regards...
i agree w/cap-z
i think religion has been over used for control of people through their beliefs, so a lot of people don't believe in the bible's words but in the basic concepts of god, truth, love, and happiness etc..
@techstuf
have a look at the zeitgeist movie, just don't believe everything in it ok, its kinda nwo and anti-christian
lot of facts about the origins of the bible and Christianity though
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&ei=9L_4SLriEISKqQPfpc0B&q=zeitgeist&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&ei=9L_4SLriEISKqQPfpc0B&q=zeitgeist&hl=en)
I am not interested in personal characterizations.....one man's hypothetical advocation of anti aircraft rockets at spray planes, is another man's capitulation to violence in attempt to solve a problem. Such a hypothetical action as you proposed would be extremely foolish in my limited opinion. Don't you get it? Why is practically every scifi movie, tv series and the like filled with antiChrist propaganda? It is being put there for a REASON. Who owns the media? Who DESPERATELY wants a 'hero' a savior? any one but Christ will do for them. Who is advocating violence and revolution?
V is for vendetta. National Treasure....etc. etc... They put their own codes and symbols blatantly in their social engineering movies and get the public to pay for their own 're-education.' Why put masonic symbols in kids animations like "Ant bully?"
Because the masons and other secret societal minions of the Beast have their own 'prophecies' to attempt to fulfill. They are experts at causing chaos in order to provide the solution and play hero to the befuddled masses. They will have their 'revolution'....and it will come at so high a cost as to reveal them thoroughly for who and what they've allowed themselves to become!
And as for wilbyinebriated's comment: "millions being killed in the name of Christ".....have you not read Christ's own warnings that such abominations would take place???
Afterall, when you've got an army of once secretive, now out in the open devil worshippers who love nothing else than doing as heinous acts as possible in a desperate attempt to damage the reputation of a perfect Man with perfect teachings....while pretending to be charitable stewards of society...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
That is prophecy being fulfilled.
Look at what the evil teach in their 'bible'. Look at what they have to say in their bible about Christ:
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
The world is undergoing the most critical time in it's history and most are all too willing to point fingers in the direction their desires tell them....preferring to judge their fellow man in convenient groups, each, by their lowest common denominator. Look at what our nation's leaders do in OUR name, much less what any man chooses to cowardly perpetrate in the name of any other! False Christians don't hold a monopoly on hypocrisy.
As far as I'm concerned, Those who by their heinous actions, prove the hypocrisy of their affiliation with the truly humble and peaceable children of Yeshua, Jesus Christ, should be judged as to what they have truly shown themselves to be:
Infiltrators possessed of Christ's enemy
http://watch.pair.com/mark.html
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html
Christ came and died for exposing tyrants and teaching pure truth....He could have called down Heaven's army and ended this Universal Court Case then and there.
Instead He chose a greater victory, through a perfect, peaceful, self sacrifice. And make no mistake, it is He exclusively, who will establish His perfect Kingdom after the events that will take place directly ahead....
Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ,
TS
Your opinions and mine are just that - opinions...until you start casting negative aspersions onto others with a differing opinion.
But you still insist of quoting scripture as if the words actually came from the lips of god or jesus...when in reality these are merely the words of dead guys claiming to be "divinely inspired.
Don't you get it ?
Well, at least you toned down your attempts at trying marginalize me...likely it was because you realized it was a dead end I suspect though.
Anyway, save your sermons for the converted...no sale here.
This will be my last comment top you...this is getting too close to trolling for my liking.
Regards...
QuoteYour opinions and mine are just that - opinions...until you start casting negative aspersions onto others with a differing opinion.
Wait, so what you were saying wasn't hypothetical? You really do want to shoot down airliners with rockets??? If your scenerio were in fact, hypothetical as it appeared, then how can you claim I am casting negative aspersions on you rather than upon a purely imaginary fool with a rocket launcher?
At any rate, such a foolishness advocation speaks for itself, as I'm sure you will come to realize.
The truth is becoming clearer every day,
One is free to ignore it at one's peril.
God bless,
TS
Quote from: TechStuf on October 17, 2008, 03:57:42 PM
Wait, so what you were saying wasn't hypothetical? You really do want to shoot down airliners with rockets??? If your scenerio were in fact, hypothetical as it appeared, then how can you claim I am casting negative aspersions on you rather than upon a purely imaginary fool with a rocket launcher?
At any rate, such a foolishness advocation speaks for itself, as I'm sure you will come to realize.
The truth is becoming clearer every day,
One is free to ignore it at one's peril.
God bless,
TS
are you mental? where did he say he wanted to shoot down airliners (implies they are carrying people) he was pretty specific about it and it was directed at planes spaying shit in OUR atmosphere.
i noticed you are still quoting old dead proselytizers , don't you get it? NO SALE HERE. take your beliefs in fairy tales to an appropriate venue. i noticed you didn't comment about the paradox in your fairytale book. especially the die by the sword quote.
why is every ::) scifi movie, tv series and the like filled with antichrist propaganda? BECAUSE HE IS A FAIRYTALE!!! don't you get it?
yes look at the evil taught in the bible. murder, incest, rape, lying by god, collusion with satan by god, etc. ad infinitum ad nauseam.
this thread is about chem trails not your imaginary friends.
Quotethis thread is about chem trails not your imaginary friends.
Cry as you might inebriated one....you may deem my Friends imaginary, yet you cannot hide the mountain of evidence that Yahweh's enemies are NOT.
Curious conundrum that is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
Yeah, the devil worshippers are just in it for giggles.....
Since you deem Yahweh and Yeshua, Jesus Christ, imaginary.....you certainly won't mind me praying for Them to bring a blessing in your life.
Father, please bless 'Wilby' in the name of Yeshua, Jesus Christ.
Nothing but love for you 'Wilby'. Regardless of this present stance of yours.
TS
Quote from: TechStuf on October 18, 2008, 03:12:21 PM
Cry as you might inebriated one....you may deem my Friends imaginary, yet you cannot hide the mountain of evidence that Yahweh's enemies are NOT.
enemies of an imaginary friend are also imaginary...
Quote from: TechStuf on October 18, 2008, 03:12:21 PM
Curious conundrum that is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
Yeah, the devil worshippers are just in it for giggles.....
didn't watch it.
Quote from: TechStuf on October 18, 2008, 03:12:21 PM
Since you deem Yahweh and Yeshua, Jesus Christ, imaginary.....you certainly won't mind me praying for Them to bring a blessing in your life.
Father, please bless 'Wilby' in the name of Yeshua, Jesus Christ.
they are imaginary, so no i don't mind. supplicate yourself to a fantasy... i will offer a sacrifice to zeus in your name. ::)
Quote from: TechStuf on October 18, 2008, 03:12:21 PM
Nothing but love for you 'Wilby'. Regardless of this present stance of yours.
TS
nothing but pity for you tech, specifically because of your stance that fairy tales are true.
techstuff,
you seem to be very knowledgeable when it comes to scripture.
please give 20 minutes of your time to an alternative view of where it all came from and what it all really means.
im not trying to convince you of anything, just trying to offer you a perspective that you may not have had previously.
i dont expect you to sit through the whole 2 hour movie, so please watch from 13:30 to around 33:30.
very interesting to say the least:
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/main.htm
LC
Thank you for your kind words, Loosecannon. However, I am fully aware that I know but little. I am always hungry for truth that can withstand investigation.
I've studied what could be determined to be a fair amount of science and religion. No offense intended as to what you, Loosecannon, feel to be compelling information, but I feel that the attempts at linking 'whoreus' with Yeshua, Jesus Christ are spurious, at best. The tell tale signs of lucifer's influence in the attempted hoodwinking of those he hopes might prefer a tempting argument rather than investigating the facts for themselves, are quite evident in the 'Zeitgeist' movie.
http://truediscernment.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/popular-film-%E2%80%98zeitgeist%E2%80%99-says-%E2%80%98christianity-along-with-all-other-theistic-belief-systems-is-the-fraud-of-the-age%E2%80%99/
But then, I don't wish to drown everyone in details, anyone here with eyes to see and ears to hear can clearly see by the URLs I've posted that I've more than made my case that the devil's own minions are implementing the 'new world odor', exactly as Christ said they would. They run politics, the media, etc. and they no longer need to meet behind the painted windows of the lodges....soon, they expect their declared enemies, we primitive 'believer' types will be expected to do our meeting in secret, that is until they've finished doing what 'Beasts' do.
Their 666 seal of solomon binding them inescapably to their dastardly deeds.
I am privileged beyond measure to know Yeshua, Christ Jesus.
His teachings make perfect sense to those who strive to reach perfection. Of course, to God's enemies,
They serve as nothing more than a scathing indictment as to what they've allowed themselves to become.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
So, they can ally themselves with lucifer the fallen angel, whoreus, and any other mythical deity they wish.....as is their right.
As for me, I will serve He who amazingly demonstrates Himself to be the One True God, Yahweh, and the One He sent forth, Yeshua, Jesus Christ.
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm
http://anchorstone.com/content/view/158/55/
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm
To shout on the street, as the 'free' mason does in the youtube video above, that he is lucifer, shows what many already know full well....that they believe he exists and is on their side. They use the six pointed star seal of solomon in their ritual abominations just as their mentors,
"Those who call themselves jews but are of the syanagogue of satan"
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
So, while some may deem deity worship as primitive, backward, it seems that TPTB have their bloody hands deep in the worship of their deity, the devil, as they freely admit. Just as they have their bloody hands deep in the infiltration of True worship everywhere, in order to cause the very effect demonstrated in the 'zeitgeist' movie.
And as Christ said, "What fellowship can Light have with darkness."
All will be laid bare soon enough
Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ, be upon you dear readers,
TS
I don't care what holy man you listen to but the great ones all have a common theme. Love thy neighbor as you would have them love you. Now if you spend your life experience being only concerned with getting ahead (ahead of what?) and enjoy playing God down here: then good luck on your quest to the top of the heap of shit; may you drown in your pocessions and power. Fucking illuminati are about as illuminated as a burnt out lightbulb. They bought into this god lucifer angel war bullshit bigtime. To even think that a creator is going to get in an argument with himself no less over a certain form of DNA manipulation is totally insane. There is no devil, just the insane and the mindwashed sheep that follow them. People who get so lazy they don't even want to think for themselves. They chose a life of distraction or blind obediance to some doctrine doled out by someone who appears to have his shit together. Man I wish somebody would showup and get rid of this selfperpectuating insanity once and for all. These holy books have so much krap in them laced in with truth they are valuless. We should be writing down scientific discoveries that will benefit future generations instead of this smart monkey did this or did that. Who fucking cares?
Quote from: sparks on October 20, 2008, 10:42:33 AM
Man I wish somebody would showup and get rid of this selfperpectuating insanity once and for all. These holy books have so much krap in them laced in with truth they are valuless. We should be writing down scientific discoveries that will benefit future generations instead of this smart monkey did this or did that. Who fucking cares?
Hell yeah!
I thought the topic was "Chem Trails The only buffer between us and the sun?"
not "who wants to be a Bible scholar"
@techstuff
I'll listen to a point- but it seems like you are just pickin a fight,
lets talk about Chemtrails and tech stuff.
I understand you passionate about God, and thats good, but back off with the force feeding-its a good way to piss people off man...
Then nobody will listen to anything you say, you don't want that do ya?
Howdy
If I could weigh in here....what TechStuf is trying to say is that what we are seeing NOW is in actuality the completion of Biblical prophecy regarding what most Biblical scholars call The Last Days.
See Matthew 24 for a description of this.
During this time period, we see people becoming truly evil and being mislead by satan. If you dont believe in satan its a personal choice, however you do ( IMHO ) see a lot of evil that just cant be reationally explained by eveil the worst that humankind could offer up on a bad day.
Biblical believers ( of which I am one ) recognise things like chemtrails is highly likely part of the overall running down of the planet so that Satan can take as many with him as he can before he gets the heave-ho into the second death ( or the lake of fire as some call it). Satan is the classic sore loser, so hes going to mislead, kill and make as big a mess as he can. Deception is truly in full flight - global warming is classsic scam but pushed by the powers that be for purposes of social engineering - the core message is that humans are a parasite and need to be controlled, where as God said to Adam and Eve to become many and subdue the earth ( but not ruin it ). There is a polar opposite in these messages we now hear about huamns - one ios occultic/satanic/humanist the other is God centered Biblical.
Rev 12:7-12
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
FYI - the illuminati *is* real, but not on Gods side ( hint - guess whos side they are on? )
In the last days it talks of all govts coming together to fight against God - the whole planet is pretty much all linked up now, and the final thing to push the world into a global financial system has just been done. The preparation for the Mark of the Beast ( 666 ) is now almost complete. Injectible RFID chips is a distinct possibility. The UN is a a global govt in all but name.
God offers us protection, but we have to worship Him.
Cheers,
Ps.
I actually seen a show about "The chem trails" but I believe they had another name for it. It was on one of the educational channels like history or Discovery channel. anyway they are supposed to be adding a chemical in the aviation fuel for all jets in the USA (didnt mention other countries) and they didnt say anything about trying to harm people, it was to put a protective layer from the sun.
I live near an airport and I can see that trail forming behind all the jets that fly over here and almost all of them are passenger jets. I'm not going to try and discredit what anyone believes but I believe what i'm seeing in the skies around here fall in line with what i saw on that program and not to mention that it is much colder here at this time of year than it has been for the past several years.
When I was a kid my parents used to take me and my brother down to the river fishing and there was always a scum like foam floating along the banks of the river and sometimes you could actually smell the crap being dumped into the river. Now the river is a million times cleaner, the fishing is great and the wild life is back including about 5 bald eagles.
I'm no expert but from what Ive seen thru out the years I do believe we F__ked up the ozone layer and I can only imagine what we're F__ing up with all the salt we put down and all the fossil fuels we burn. I'm not a big fan of the "Tree Huggers" I guess their called now, yet I believe that clean river i live by is a direct result of their efforts and we should take a real close look at the facts that global warmming is real and instead of spraying crap across the skies we need to get rid of fossil fuels and start useing alternate fuel tech that we have along with getting rid of the damn lobbyist that have us about 50 years behind schedule.
Quote from: plasmastudent77 on October 20, 2008, 09:48:34 PM
Biblical believers ( of which I am one ) recognise things like chemtrails is highly likely part of the overall running down of the planet so that Satan can take as many with him as he can before he gets the heave-ho into the second death ( or the lake of fire as some call it). Satan is the classic sore loser, so hes going to mislead, kill and make as big a mess as he can. Deception is truly in full flight - global warming is classsic scam but pushed by the powers that be for purposes of social engineering - the core message is that humans are a parasite and need to be controlled, where as God said to Adam and Eve to become many and subdue the earth ( but not ruin it ). There is a polar opposite in these messages we now hear about huamns - one ios occultic/satanic/humanist the other is God centered Biblical.
Rev 12:7-12
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
FYI - the illuminati *is* real, but not on Gods side ( hint - guess whos side they are on? )
In the last days it talks of all govts coming together to fight against God - the whole planet is pretty much all linked up now, and the final thing to push the world into a global financial system has just been done. The preparation for the Mark of the Beast ( 666 ) is now almost complete. Injectible RFID chips is a distinct possibility. The UN is a a global govt in all but name.
God offers us protection, but we have to worship Him.
Cheers,
Ps.
zealots like you guys often see evil signs and prophetic messages, even in your bowl of lucky charms or alpha-bits. sci-fi stories about angels, dragons, devils and some utopia in the sky are just that, fiction.
you want me to worship your imaginary friend? ::)
I see we are back on topic, somewhat at least.
"I live near an airport and I can see that trail forming behind all the jets that fly over here and almost all of them are passenger jets."
If those trails followed commercial jets you would never see the sun because of the thickness of the multiple plumes...its bad enough when they are spaced miles apart.
I find it interesting that this thread was derailed by some apparent religious zealots...then a newby arrives on the scene with "information" which conflicts totally with a previous posts describing in detail all the strange properties and behavior of these chemtrails...my mind immediately thinks troll or disinfo agent.
I was also a kid when jets came on the scene...their 'vapor trails' quickly dissipated - like the vapor that they were...they didn't hang in the atmosphere like the 'harmless vapor trails' you imply they are.
What you are saying does not jive with reality.
I am personally offended when someone tries to blow smoke up my back passage with nonsense in an attempt to cover up for crimes against humanity...which in effect is these chemtrails actually are.
Bottom line, if 'they' were really trying to rectify a problem 'as you assert' we would not be receiving the "good news" in the form of excuses for what suddenly occurs in the skys.
Regards...
Are you a disinformation agent...or do you just like to talk ?
I'm not going to try and discredit what anyone believes but I believe what i'm seeing in the skies around here fall in line with what i saw on that program
HUH!
Maybe these "helpfull" chemtrails are like the flouride they put in everything now,
a side effect that it made peoples teeth stronger, so they use that to promote it without mentioning that it also crystalizes your bones, makes them brittle, as well as dumbing you down,making you docile and less likely to protest against any injustice.
from anothr site-
"fluoride is a key chemical in atomic bomb production. Millions of tons were used during the Cold War period to manufacture high-grade uranium and plutonium. "
"The first U.S. lawsuits levied against the atomic weapons program were over fluoride poisoning, not radiation damage. The U.S. government secretly ordered atomic bomb scientists to create "evidence useful in litigation" against defense contractors who were being accused of injuring citizens with fluoride."
the Gov. found that small towns crime rate went down with flouridation as well as violent protest and said hell yeah, liquid control!
- now they have a spray,
lol
I have noticed that the exhaust trails from jets are taking on the form of smoke rings behind them. These rings persist for a long long time. The wind doesn't blow them away or diffuse them as fast because they are vortex rings. I'm just wondering if the aviation fuel is getting watered down with something like water that will burn in the plasma created by the jet engine laval nozzles. So now you have alot of water in the exhaust compared to before and you get crystallized water from the engine exhaust at higher concentrations. Be just like the oil companies to slip some water and alchol into jet fuel and charge em the same price as fossil sludge. You guys should checkout the guys burning water using plazma excited spark plugs. The jet engine doesn't need to electrically produce a plasma. This is where we would first see water as a fuel introduced. Most probably totally unknow to the aviation industry. If the public found out jets can run on water how long would it take for them to demand that their cars run on water.
The chemtrails and the rumors are just misinformation to cover up the real deal that the jets are running on water now.
"I'm not going to try and discredit what anyone believes but I believe what i'm seeing in the skies around here fall in line with what i saw on that program"
That is totally bizarre...I have no idea how that statement found its way into my last post, as it is something which I would never say ??
My suspicions of chemtrails and their origin and intent remains unchanged.
Regards...
Hi all,
Chemtrails are real and they have caught on film a plane setup just for that purpose:
http://www.rense.com/general81/ddthr.htm (http://www.rense.com/general81/ddthr.htm)
QuoteFig. 4 Â Enlarged image of spraying pod mounted under port-side wing. Pod is painted to somewhat match the engine color on the plane. However, note pod mounting strut doesn't match the underside wing color. Note the number "2" on the pod. The starboard side wing is most likely pod #1. I have added the letters to identify key parts of the image which are referenced below.
Legend:
A - Propeller on the front of the pod drives an internal generator or pump. Based on the shadows under the plane, we can determine this image was made sometime around mid-day.
B - Funnel-cone with an exit port mounted on center of engine exhaust for additional spraying capability. Exhaust that exits here may not necessarily be superheated air, as most of today's engines are high-bypass designs for maximum thrust and efficiency. The engine could have been designed to have a fresh-air channel running straight down the center. This would be important when spraying biological agents in order not to destroy them.
C - Semi-circle black lines along the bottom are probably air intake screens. Being on the underside of the pod, they would be exposed to the high pressure flow of air under the wing.
D Â Afterbirth: Curve of pod mounting strut almost matches that of the plane's wing, but is not quite perfect. No aircraft manufacturer would ever release a plane with the large gap in the mount that we see here. This pod was clearly manufactured by a third party.
Check it out for more info.
Take care all,
Michel
Great pic, Michelinho, and of course Chemtrails are real, anyone reasonably devoid of selective myopia can see the truth of it. Googling the word: 'Chemtrails' brings up millions of pages pictures and video.
This is part of the reason for them:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3222476/Suns-protective-bubble-is-shrinking.html
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2005/05/10/global-warming-something-new-under-the-sun/
I seem to recall mention in the Holy Scriptures of Yahweh sending an Angel to do someting to the sun to increase the heat on the earth in the final part of the days.....
http://www.bible-knowledge.com/7-Bowl-Judgments.html
4th bowl
Blessings,
Mitch