Hi any one ever try to split steam?
VW aircool 1600 cc.
I try to make GEET sys.
Now i test by drill exhaust pipe cross section and insert copper tube(8mm OD) like heat exchanger,insert 3" nail, and hook one side with vacuum port under carburator, another is suction, i hook to water tank with control valve.
I got very hot steam, that can melt rubber hose, :o
But fuel consumption still be the same ???
I think if i can split steam it may use less power than normal water, am i correct?
have any one try yet,
Thanks,
zzz
Good idea. If you ionize the steam, it might burn. If you pass the steam through a pipe with a screen inside of it, charge the outer pipe positive and the screen negative, it would ionize the gas. Or just use tubes one inside the other, like Meyers' WFC, one + one -, and pass the water in between them. It should be easy enough to run power from your battery, a rectified inverter, or a pulsed coil .
One idea might be to modify a throttle body. A throttle body has a rotating disc inside of it, which in some cars never completely closes, and when open is electrically isolated from the housing. So, you can charge the disc and the housing separately. Another possibility is to tap a pipe, stick an electrode into it, and seal the hole with a rubber grommet.
thanks,
I interested because i ever test to burn copper tube bend to J shape shot side on fire, long side for hand to hold it , pore some water inside, I got some of frame and some of steam come out, then i think this must have something inside tube,
now i think like small carvity, - on copper tube that mount with exhaust (ground) and long stainless thread inside be +.
but i can't find high temp isolator to insulate it... temp more than 300'C I guess,
have some recommend?
or have another system, please help...
thanks,
zzz
Hi zzzz
Please look at post 142
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5251.msg117350#msg117350
professor
Quote from: zzzz on October 01, 2008, 04:59:59 AM
Hi any one ever try to split steam?
VW aircool 1600 cc.
I try to make GEET sys.
Now i test by drill exhaust pipe cross section and insert copper tube(8mm OD) like heat exchanger,insert 3" nail, and hook one side with vacuum port under carburator, another is suction, i hook to water tank with control valve.
I got very hot steam, that can melt rubber hose, :o
But fuel consumption still be the same ???
I think if i can split steam it may use less power than normal water, am i correct?
have any one try yet,
Thanks,
zzz
Thank prof.
since i reply that topic, this questine stick in my mind, Heat can split water or not?
I test with copper tube as i said, it can, but for real bug, it seem to be not work yet.
Today full test with pure water, use 1 lite of water with 40 km.
power drop significantly, rough and miss fire in low RPM.
fuel consumption tomorrow will show.
seem steam not work,
Fuel consumption as the same,
still need to split it before
with nozzle I don't get current even i tide the gab of + and - to very tight.... ???
any one try?
Quote from: zzzz on October 20, 2008, 05:05:06 AM
seem steam not work,
Fuel consumption as the same,
still need to split it before
with nozzle I don't get current even i tide the gab of + and - to very tight.... ???
any one try?
Hi zzzz
I know in the 60's they were selling water injection which is not as fine of a mist as steam and they were getting an increase of both milage and horsepower.
ever driven on a foggy cool night during the summer and noticed your car to perform better.
perhaps it has to be dense that means cool mist rather than hot mist meaning steam.
perhaps steam only works if you produce a plasma at your spark plug.
This would be my first step and then steam being my second.
however you have proved that steam alone does not work,perhaps there just is not enough spark being a VW .
professor
I would try with electronic ignition and high performance coils...
The original one is on the edge, anyway.
Thanks all,
I try as your rec.
with S1R coil
totally nothing change,
and now with VexUs, thank Greg ;D,
may be this weekend will put into my bug and will test with steam
The vacuum port under the carburetor is probably not the best place -
because this totally changes the fuel-air mixture.
Better would be to feed it between air filter and carb.
Another problem are the long intake tubes from carb to cylinder head - but
we´ll see.
(I know my magic bus...)
even minimum amount of extra air/steam at the
vacuum port prevents proper idling / gives super lean
mixture which prevents detonation - finally the remaining
gasoline-dust collects in the muffler and waits for
its final detonation.
rgds.
You made a mistake using copper.
The chemical reaction is only with iron ( FE).! it is essential.
Andreas
thanks,
I also put 3" nail inside copper tube, any way i will try steel pipe,
any one done HHO from steam yet?