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Title: arentt we all unsecure?
Post by: GestaltO on November 06, 2008, 01:21:43 PM
OK so i was thinking, everyone here belives in open source or at least claims to believe in open source free energy. We all know the potential risks that come with this for anyone that makes a valid discovery/invention and worry about the possibility of death putting it bluntly.

But this forum logs IP addresses. thats a security issue for us all. even if the forum itself didnt log the IP the webserver it is hosted on would. is this something that needs looking at?
Title: Re: arentt we all unsecure?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on November 06, 2008, 06:24:21 PM
use a proxy...
Title: Re: arentt we all unsecure?
Post by: shruggedatlas on November 06, 2008, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: GestaltO on November 06, 2008, 01:21:43 PM
OK so i was thinking, everyone here belives in open source or at least claims to believe in open source free energy. We all know the potential risks that come with this for anyone that makes a valid discovery/invention and worry about the possibility of death putting it bluntly.

But this forum logs IP addresses. thats a security issue for us all. even if the forum itself didnt log the IP the webserver it is hosted on would. is this something that needs looking at?

I recommend that you make a hat of tinfoil and put it on.  It helps hide the IP address.
Title: Re: arentt we all unsecure?
Post by: HeairBear on November 06, 2008, 08:51:29 PM
The MIBlettes are coming! The MIBlettes are coming! Hide your IP's!
Title: Re: arentt we all unsecure?
Post by: GestaltO on November 07, 2008, 11:18:44 PM
with the exception of the first response which is what i already do utilising rotating anon proxy servers.

the other 2 responses are idiotic, and poeple like you are part of the problem with the world, polluting what the internet is designed for. If you had a proper response then by all means reply, if not then...well i won't say what you can do, unlike you i have a level of common decency and respect for other poeple.

as for HeairBear i am actually quite dissapointed by your response after your open minded view in one of my other threads, but at least since poeple post regularly on here i can quickly assess the personality traits of people on the forum.

@shruggedatlas

i hope for your sake that your tin foil hat protects you well if you ever design anything of value.

in general the whole tin foil comments that some people make on here is just retarded, trying to elude to what? conspirasists wear tin foil hats? according to what B grade movie exactly? i am not a consipracy nut either for or against, i keep an open mind about everything. nor am i some geek with no life no girlfriend etc etc. You may elude to whatever you like about me, you don't know me and clearly don't have the personality traits that i look for in an associate or friend, quite simply you are in the 98% of people i come across...ignorant, rude or impolite in one fashion or another.

if you havent already procreated, then i would suggest shrugged atlas, that you don't. It is just as unfair to pollute the genepool as it is to pollute this forum with your verbal flatulence.

Oh and on one other note for anyone else that would like to post a stupid answer, you will not ever anger or offend me, i just pity you, wasting your time typing a message that has no value whatsoever other than making yourself laugh and possibly others that will follow suit.

I will be polite and have intelligent or innane conversations about anything with anyone on here, but please, don't try to insult, mock or disrespect me, it's pathetic.
Title: Re: arentt we all unsecure?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on November 08, 2008, 12:14:43 AM
good to hear you are using proxies if you are concerned about such things. my point of view is that if you are concerned about death for posting something, then don't post it. if you are living somewhere where such things are threatened, move.
if someone wants to track you online and has the resources to do it, sooner or later they will. you can obfuscate, spoof and cover your tracks, but that's about it. grift a wi-fi connection and couple that with a proxy. of course your monitor cable is not shielded, so anyone can sit in a van outside your house and pick up those signals and see exactly what is on your monitor...
anyone coming into my place telling me what i can or can't say, backed with a threat of death is gonna get rifle butted across the face. that's all the security i need.

i think heairbear was poking fun at shruggedatlas. shruggedatlas, as usual, was being useless...
Title: Re: arentt we all unsecure?
Post by: GestaltO on November 08, 2008, 12:21:57 AM
i hope so he seemed very open minded and like minded in a different thread. I'm a security specialist and ex hacker so i know how to cover my tracks. this was more for the owner of the site to be honest to try and gain more efficient security. if the server doesn't save logs then it can be tracked by anyone on a site like this.

Personally i don't fear harm but there are a lot of people that do and if they knew they were more secure it just may help tidy things up by getting rid of all the "i fear to post" threads etc.  ;D
Title: Re: arentt we all unsecure?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on November 08, 2008, 12:41:05 AM
in my opinion, the 'i fear to post' threads are someone talking smack. their mouth wrote a check that their data/results can't cash. so they fall back on the 'helpl help! i'm being repressed! come see the violence inherent in the system!" i don't buy it. now don't get me wrong, history shows us a long list of scientists that were ostracized by their peers, and their theories were later vindicated. for example, the theory of the law of conservation of energy (julius r. mayer) was rejected with contempt by the leading physics journals of the time, now everyone is pushing it. so, being ridiculed, treated with contempt, rejection, that's all par for the course in science. but in looking at that list, i don't see any that were snuffed out.

i still am not quite sure about your concern about an IP addy. they are an intrinsic part of the internet, how would you route a packet to a specific computer without an IP? yes, you can have the webserver not 'log' IP's, but it still needs to know what machine is connected to it and requesting information or it has nowhere to route the datapacket. maybe i misunderstood, could you clarifiy?
Title: Re: arentt we all unsecure?
Post by: GestaltO on November 08, 2008, 12:55:23 AM
yeah but if it's not logged that means it would need to be someone watching the packets live and intercepting them, which is technically against the law in most countries but yeah as i said anyway...its not "my" concern. more of a suggestion for the forum. but seeing as not many poeple actually replied i agree with your conclusion the people saying they are worried are basically talking sh** lol
Title: Re: arentt we all unsecure?
Post by: HeairBear on November 08, 2008, 01:16:24 AM
I thought my reply was open minded. Your words of advice are well taken but it's the majority of the trolls here on this forum that won't even understand what you are trying to say. If your ideas are not new and crazy enough for people to poke at, they will not reply. I have read alot of this forum and I can honestly say there is no reason for a security measure or two needed for a forum troll. Besides, what is security? Security is a feeling you get when you feel that you and your belongings are safe from harm. But, that's all it is.... a feeling.