Gravity from the sun sucks mass from the earth and turns it into heat and sends it back to us.
The reason the planets closest to the sun are the smallest is because the sun sucked gravity from them. Gravity = mass. There is a relation between gravity and mass. There is no relation between the speed of light and energy.
Interesting idea.....yet there are those who suppose that the earth has in fact, grown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOp8j6eOBlI
Perhaps the truth is somewhere in between....
TS
Hi,
I also favor the earth getting larger with time. Astronomy is probably where most of the scientific errors we taken for granted. Next up is human history where most of the good stuff is kept secret from us, giants and all.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8534397625940239162&ei=52o3Se22MImwrQLA9pSrCQ&q=Giants&hl=en (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8534397625940239162&ei=52o3Se22MImwrQLA9pSrCQ&q=Giants&hl=en)
Take care and never stop doubting,
Michel
I seem to recall a theory regarding the Biblical flood about the Earth's magnetosphere momentarily collapsing during polar reversal and countless hydrogen ions, no longer in suspension, raining down through the lower atmosphere coupling with oxygen to produce a monstrous deluge. And speaking of protective bubbles, the Heliosheath has recently been discovered to be shrinking. Not good news.
Great Site with much evidence for the accuracy of Bible History:
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm
TS
The only thing that sucks here is this thread.
Hans von Lieven
When electricity is made mass is consumed, oil, coal, nukes lose some of there mass in the process of making the electricity. After the electricity is made it goes down a wire to do work, if there is a ground at the end of the wire. Without a ground the electricity won’t move. The ground has to be a large mass like the earth.
Gravity is a from of energy generated by mass. When a mass like the earth or sun generates gravity it gives up some of its mass. Gravity like electricity needs a ground to move to. The earths gravity is grounded to the sun, and the suns gravity is grounded to the earth. Because the mass of the sun is so much greater than the earths it wins.
If gravity equals mass and the sun is sucking gravity out of the earth, than the sun in effect is sucking mass out of the earth.
Hans, popping into a thread merely to register one's disgust is clearly beneath you. Your disrespect of the subject matter is obvious, but so too is your disrespect of self by stooping to purile immaturity.
'Hi, my name's Hans, I just thought I'd pop in to say your thread sucks.'
Such comments have come to be expected of today's generation.
Blessings in Christ,
TS
Hi, my name's Bill, I just thought I'd pop in to say your thread sucks
Hi, my name is Thane, I just dropped in to say your thread sucks in PEOPLE who suck!
Cheers
Thane
If empty space does not have mass there can not be any gravity there because there is not a ground for gravity to flow to.
What there is a sort of a narrow gravity rope between each mass in the solar system.
So in effect the sun is sucking mass from every mass in the solar system. Everything feeds the sun. The sun than turns the mass and gravity in to heat and sends it back to us as light.
So, in effect, you are asserting that a heretofore undiscovered mass transfer agency is at work here?
Blessings in Yeshua,
TS
yup.
An I would go further and say that the chemistry of each mass in the solar system is
slowly changing as it loses mass.
Different solar systems would have different masses depending on how old it is.
The longer its sun sucked in the gravity and mass of the solar system, the less overall
mass of the solar system.
Does this rather unorthodox theory of yours make any testable predictions? How, experimentally, could we decide between the standard interpretation (Newtonian gravitation and general relativity) and your theory?
If it doesn't make any testable predictions, then it really isn't much of a theory. It's on the same level as my theory that spiritons from the discorporate dimension, sleeting down from the twentyseventh orgonezone, drag matter particles along with them, producing the illusion of gravity.
So, does your theory make any testable predictions? For example, if your theory is true, the earth must be losing mass, along with the other planets, and the sun must be gaining mass. Yet, observations do not seem to support this prediction.
The suns mass is not increasing because the sun turns the mass and gravity it sucks in into heat and sends it back out into space.
As to a way to test the theory, I do not have one yet. I just got the idea yesterday.
There is a reason this was posted in the half-baked section.
If the chemistry of solar systems is constantly changing it makes it much more
likely that at some point there will be life in the system. Maybe even life at different times and on different planets in the same solar system.
Maybe gravity is the spark that keeps the sun burning?
When electricity encounters resistance in a wire it slows down and heats up the wire.
Maybe when the sun sucks gravity into it, the gravity encounters resistance and slows down causing the sun to burn. a spark plug
Well, the idea that gravity is the spark that keeps the sun burning, isn't far off. Gravity compresses the sun's matter and keeps it from flying apart from so much heat, so the hydrogen-to-helium fusion process can continue. Without gravity the sun would expand and go out.
I don't think electricity slows down when it meets a resistance, though. At least the voltage doesn't...maybe the individual electron free paths get shorter or something, but the voltage signal will appear at the same time at the end of a long wire, regardless of resistance. Inductance may be another matter, though.
Evidence? The moon moves away from the earth 3cm per year. Hmm.. maybe its instead the earth that shrinks 3cm per year due to loss of mass ;D
That surely is offset by the gains in mass from all that middle-aged spread, that makes me add an inch to my waist size each year.
Quote from: TinselKoala on December 04, 2008, 03:50:49 PM
It's on the same level as my theory that spiritons from the discorporate dimension, sleeting down from the twentyseventh orgonezone, drag matter particles along with them, producing the illusion of gravity.
I think I heard that theory before, on an old episode of Mork & Mindy perhaps? ;D
If the distance between the moon and the earth is increasing maybe it is because the volume and mass of the moon and earth is decreasing, at the same time the velocity of the moon is unchanged.
if memory serves me correctly the inner planets are more solid and the outer planets are more gaseous...in order for the sun to be shrinking the earth the earth has to be giving up it's mass in an observable way...i don't think the sun is "using" the earth to make energy...more like the earth is "using" the sun to keeps it's trojectory and it's average surface temperature.
For gravity to flow from one mass to another there needs to be a ground with sufficient mass. For example if there are two glasses on a table there is no gravity between them because nether mass is sufficient to ground the other. However there is gravity between the glasses and earth because the earth has sufficient mass to ground the glasses and make gravity flow.
There is polar loss of ions which are continually lost as an Earth generated ion wind. This loss of mass is continously replenished as solar wind or coronal mass migration. The Earth is a child of the Sun and the sun is a good parent. :) The Earth is an infrared standing wave field surrounded by a plasma envelope and magnetosphere resulting from the plasma current. The Earth glows.
The moon is a satellite of earth. The problem is the moon gets about 1.5 inches further from earth every year. When NASA went to the moon they put mirrors on it, with lasers they can now accurately measure the distance between the earth and the moon.
My question is how can a satellite of earths get further away every year?
My answer is the earth is shrinking and losing mass faster than the moon.
Sparks, check out Stan Deyo's video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP4zQ4R8vJg
Some of what he says makes sense...
TS
Quote from: brian334 on December 09, 2008, 02:14:52 PM
The moon is a satellite of earth. The problem is the moon gets about 1.5 inches further from earth every year. When NASA went to the moon they put mirrors on it, with lasers they can now accurately measure the distance between the earth and the moon.
My question is how can a satellite of earths get further away every year?
My answer is the earth is shrinking and losing mass faster than the moon.
Even though you are a complete crackpot, I will at least commend you for acknowledging that NASA actually went to the moon.
and apparently the milky way is slowly being sucked in a black hole....oh well, they say it started with a big bang and the ending just ,...is just going to suck. :D
The biggest mass wins.
Utilitarian,
My question is how can a satellite of earths get further away every year?
Can you answer this question?
Not likely.
But I am sure you can call me names.
Alls not lost it's just a change in density. We're most likely inside a blackhole now. Every once in a while a blackhole gives birth to a new galaxy. Then there are the other dimensions and alternate universes lots of adventure. Lots of alernate realities beyond this 3rd rock from the sun.
The moon has been calculated as increasing it's distance from the Earth all the time because of the give in the oceans upsetting it's centripedal force to gravity flow relationship.
Quote from: brian334 on December 11, 2008, 07:48:53 PM
Utilitarian,
My question is how can a satellite of earths get further away every year?
Can you answer this question?
Not likely.
But I am sure you can call me names.
Yes, I can answer. There are two forces at play keeping the Moon orbiting around Earth. One is gravity and the other is the Moon's momentum. The two are at almost perfect balance, but not quite perfect. The momentum of the Moon is a tiny bit stronger, so that is why the Moon is getting farther away from the Earth.
the moon gains energy from the earths rotation, think tidal forces. the earths day becomes longer, this will
go on till the earth and moon are tide locked and always show the same face to each other.
also you can measure the gravity between 2 small objects. it just takes careful measurement. example 2 lead
spheres suspended by long thin wires with the spheres close together but not touching.
In the last year how much longer has a day on earth gotten?
Also ever one knows the reason the moon does not spin is because it is not uniform in mass. One end of the moon has a greater mass than the other.
I don’t buy your hanging lead weight story. For the lead weight hanging on a thin wire to move sideways it has to move up hill against the gravity from earth, and also bend the wire.
Utilitarian,
Apply that almost exact same reasoning to the hurricane machine.
Except replace gravity with air pressure.
brian if you check out http://www.juliantrubin.com/bigten/cavendishg.html
you will find an exsperiment you can do to measure the gravity between small masses and thus
determin G to wiegh the earth.
bending the wires and pulling against the earths gravity is exactly what one woul exspect if gravity was a quality of mass.
as for how much the earth slows, it isn't much per year but over the last billion years has been manny
hours. a little time with google and you would have answers to many question like this.
as for the moon being tide locked if tides do not cause a rotating body in space to slow why would it ever stop?
The moon does spin it is just that it's day is as long as it's year. Space creates a pressure on everything. As the Sun cools it contracts and becomes more dense at the core. The tidbits of emwaves that escape this contracting space is nothing compared to the amount of potential energy in the contracting cooling core. As the core contracts it creates a vacuum within a pressurized field. Something has to give so space begins to move to feed the sun produced relative vacuum. This flow is experienced as gravity. The same mechanism occurs on a realitivistic level also. The neucleus assumming the role of the Sun. The denser the material the more neuclei the more gravity flow. Two rocks on a rope create a divergent flow of gravity between the two rocks. This creates a condition where there is less aether pressure in the field between the rocks than there is on the outside of the rocks. Hence they move together until the aether pressure is equalized on all sides of the mass field. Least I think that's the way it works. ???
Hmmm... i wonder if the earth is even solid...i would think with a molten core it would be kinda squishy.....
as for the earth expanding ...maybe virtual particles becoming real play a role in the center of the earth and the sun...lots of electromagnetic flux from the core right...seems like there should scalar effects there too,but that is over my head...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_photon#Virtual_particles_in_Feynman_diagrams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_photon#Virtual_particles_in_Feynman_diagrams)
seems to me the radiation from the sun should be stripping mass away from the earth and the planets closer to the sun out to the rest of the planets like a comets tail
we have an atmosphere and a strong magnetic field around the earth that protects us so..don't know how much it still strips away
don't think the sun is sucking the earth up, but the earth may be interacting magnetically/gravitationally to help fuel the sun...
could the spin of the earths core act like a coupled coil with the suns core as well as all the planets with a magnetic Field transferring energy by loss of momentum from the planet to the sun or maybe turning virtual particles into real??
My position is this:
The reason the moon does not spin as it travels around earth is because the moon is not uniform in mass. One side of the moon has a greater mass than the other side.
Try this test, get a flat piece of ice than tilt it. Put a round ball on it and let it go. What happens? The ball starts to move down hill, as the ball moves down hill it starts to spin because there is enough friction between the ball and the ice to make it spin.
Next with the same ice and ball try this. Cut the ball in half, put a lead weight in one half, glue the ball back together. Than let the ball go down the ice - what happens? As the ball moves down hill on the ice it slides, it will not spin. The friction between the ice and ball is not enough to lift the lead weight.
That gets us back to the moon. When planets move around the sun there is gravitational friction, the side of the planet closest to the sun gets pulled on harder than the side farthest from the sun, that makes the planet spin. As long as the planet is uniform in mass. But if the planet or moon is not uniform in mass the gravitational friction between the planet or moon will not be enough to make it spin.
Maybe some more proof.
When a particle is accelerated to a high rate of speed and allowed to crash into a wall it appears the particle has more mass than is actually does.
Maybe because the particle is pushing and pulling gravity along with it.
Maybe gravity has mass.
Are you saying the sun spite out the planets?
If that is true the sun must have been spinning a lot faster a long time ago.
So the rapidly spinning sun spits out a planet with high density and high
angeluler momentum.
Than the sun starts sucking the mass of the planet back in using gravity?
At the same time the sun light from the sun is pushing the planet away from the sun.
So the mass of the planets is decreasing and the volume is increasing allowing the planets to move farther away from the sun.
The sun spits out the planets than sucks them back in.
The earth spits out people then sucks them back in.
Gravity causes objects to 'fall'. the term sucking is incorrect physics.
all things fall according to the curvature of space. it is called a Tensor Field.
You realize of course that none of this matters....
Mercury will be the first to go, and when that happens the solar flare produced will destroy all life on our measly little planet...
Hi Smoky.
you're right but there more factors that need to be included.
1. The Oceans will evaporate long before the Earth falls into the Sun.
2. The Oceans will evaporate long before the Sun turns into a red dwarf or giant or White star which ever comes first.
3. The Earth will suffer possible mass extinctions if we do not master space technology due to Asteroid impact. there have been close calls already and weren't seen until they had already passed. not good for humans.
4. The Earth may be wiped out by solar radiation not only from our stars and Ultra Mega Flares but also by other close prox star systems that could super nova, any super nova within 200 light years is lethal to everything on Earth.
5. The Earth could meet the ultimate plague with no cure.
6. the Earth could meet its doom by Terrorism or by accidental methods.
7. The Earth could finally meet aggressive Aliens from another world.
I could go on but I think everyone has heard it already.
Cheeri'O
Jerry
Let's master space technology, so I can go cruising for space chic. ;)
GB
Shotgun!
I agree, there is an end in sight for the earth and all it population, and when this happens, it will be like we never existed at all.
The only solution I can see, will never be done because the greed of humans will prevent the solution. After all why bother, don't we all know that GOD will save us, and it's ok to kill in wars because it makes such good use of our time and efforts!
The actual solution is an order of goals starting with :
#1: Find the solution to grow younger, so man can live at their peak ability for thousands of years. Then man could gain the intelligence to solve the problems with space flight at light speed and faster. Too much of everyone's lives are wasted just catching up to speed where the last person left off. Longer life would already enable huge space flights to be made.
#2: World ability! The entire world would need to work together to solve the problems that prevent working as a race to achieve it's stake in the Universe. There may already be alien races that achieved these goals under different conditions and may view humans as just another problem. They could exterminate us easily since we are already helping them by exterminating each other.
#3: Just relax! You are now going to live for 3000 years. You can think about having children some time at midlife or in about 1500 years.
4#: Stick to the list! The first step is the most important because it is the lack of time that causes everyone to take whatever they can for themselves, even if they have to kill to get it.
Money is useless! It cannot buy you #1, it will take the efforts of governments to beat #1.
Without these goals we will be right where we are, WAITING TO BECOME EXTINCT.
There's a problem.
with the perfect spaceship comes time travel, I don't think it would be safe to allow just anybody into a time machine, there were laws given to abide in time, how many would follow the laws of time travel.
the other problem is the Government, although they would know somewhat about how it is done there are other issues, it they master time travel then they will control all of time and you will be either assassinated or executed for trying to avoid their national security being a time traveler.
it is very dangerous being a time traveler because you have to keep your mouth shut even though you would like to share the info. it's tuff!
The other problems is people who are mentally ill could get their hands on such tech and cause havoc, I along with others won't let this happen if I had a choice.
the other issue is always beware there is one greater than you in your little machine and that you do not rule the earth because you're a time traveler.
traveling to the future is better than traveling to the past, traveling to the future and then living there in harmony with super high tech civ is the thing, there are hardships in the history of mankind that make it even harder for a time traveler in the past because the future is the land of the plenty not the past.
Just a rule of thumb is all.
Jerry ;)
Quote from: lumen on July 29, 2009, 06:34:57 PM
I agree, there is an end in sight for the earth and all it population, and when this happens, it will be like we never existed at all.
The only solution I can see, will never be done because the greed of humans will prevent the solution. After all why bother, don't we all know that GOD will save us, and it's ok to kill in wars because it makes such good use of our time and efforts!
The actual solution is an order of goals starting with :
#1: Find the solution to grow younger, so man can live at their peak ability for thousands of years. Then man could gain the intelligence to solve the problems with space flight at light speed and faster. Too much of everyone's lives are wasted just catching up to speed where the last person left off. Longer life would already enable huge space flights to be made.
#2: World ability! The entire world would need to work together to solve the problems that prevent working as a race to achieve it's stake in the Universe. There may already be alien races that achieved these goals under different conditions and may view humans as just another problem. They could exterminate us easily since we are already helping them by exterminating each other.
#3: Just relax! You are now going to live for 3000 years. You can think about having children some time at midlife or in about 1500 years.
4#: Stick to the list! The first step is the most important because it is the lack of time that causes everyone to take whatever they can for themselves, even if they have to kill to get it.
Money is useless! It cannot buy you #1, it will take the efforts of governments to beat #1.
Without these goals we will be right where we are, WAITING TO BECOME EXTINCT.
Hi Lumen.
there is no need for speed, it is much more difficult finding planets that meet the requirements of Humans. Time travel will make it easier to find other worlds in an infinite Universe but inhabitable planets are rare, in fact if by the time the Earth needs to be evacuated we will either live in humongous space cities or we will just go back in time to our own Earth to buy us time to find another world to inhabit.
even though this sounds remarkable I would not get excited because if the case happens he/she may already have everybody they need.
but then of course someone from that distance of a future may be able to control the entire Universe and come back to be everyones God so to say.
there are all kinds of probabilities involved, the only way to sort through them is to always think like a time traveler.
Jerry ;)
The issue is, is mass transferred from one planet to another by gravity?
QuoteWhen electricity is made mass is consumed, oil, coal, nukes lose some of there mass in the process of making the electricity. After the electricity is made it goes down a wire to do work, if there is a ground at the end of the wire. Without a ground the electricity won’t move. The ground has to be a large mass like the earth.
Gravity is a from of energy generated by mass. When a mass like the earth or sun generates gravity it gives up some of its mass. Gravity like electricity needs a ground to move to. The earths gravity is grounded to the sun, and the suns gravity is grounded to the earth. Because the mass of the sun is so much greater than the earths it wins.
If gravity equals mass and the sun is sucking gravity out of the earth, than the sun in effect is sucking mass out of the earth.
Oh Brian... Oh dear. Brian, Brian, Brian... are you related to nitinnum by any chance?
If not, there's a match made in heaven!
Dear Farrah,
You sound like a educated guy so let me ask you a question.
If gravity does not have mass how can it makes things move?
Quote from: brian334 on July 31, 2009, 12:04:01 PM
Dear Farrah,
You sound like a educated guy so let me ask you a question.
If gravity does not have mass how can it makes things move?
Hi Brian.
I think there is some confusion as to what gravity is and how it functions.
you can read about Buoyancy and 'Displacement', displacement is what gravity is, Gravity is just a simple tensor field that is a result of matter and energy displacement nothing more.
it is the tensor field around matter and energy that causes the displacement because Matter and energy 'fills' the surrounding space.
please read every last word here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buoyancy
most dense to least densest explains composition of a gravitational tensor field.
Jerry ;)
More gibberish
Quotemore gibberish
Shame on you OTCE2005! You forgot to post the information in his native tongue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA2DrMuirx4
TS
Quote from: TechStuf on July 31, 2009, 05:18:55 PM
Shame on you OTC2005! You forgot to post the information in his native tongue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA2DrMuirx4
TS
Silly me ;D
Actually the Earth if it is loosing any mass is because the Sun is sandblasting the Earth with high energy coronal mass ejections (solar wind). The magnetosphere deflects alot of this but it can only take so much. The Earth itself is lossing ions accelerated along the magnetosphere lines of force which get messed with when solar typhoons deform the magnetosphere. There is a wave nature to the magnetospheric deformation caused by shockwaves when solarwind meets magnetosphere. No idea of the frequency or if this effects the near magnetic field down on the hard deck. If it does and the frequency is high enough maybe we could tune in some solar wind induced magnetic field vibrations for some free energy.
When the opposition starts calling you names you know you won the argument.
Since the earth is suspended in space, it cannot be put on a scale and weighed. But scientists can estimate its total weight by estimating the weight of each of its parts, the crust, or solid rock, the mantle, also solid rock, and the core, a liquid, because of the great heat at the center.
These add up to an estimated 6.6 sextillion tons! To see what that number looks like, we'd have to write two 6s, followed by twenty Os, or 6,600,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons!
The earth's weight increases by 100,000 pounds each year from dust and meteoric material falling from the sky.
This is the reason why the Earth is slowing down in its spin every day because it is gaining mass on it's journey.
While we know the Earth's rotation is slowing that is not the main reason why the extra "Leap Second" was added by our official time keepers this year. The reason for adding a leap second is that the planet does not rotate exactly once every 24 hours (86,400 seconds). The rotation actually takes 86,400.002 seconds so that each day this little difference builds up between the atomic clock and the earth's rotation.
The Earth's rotation is slowing but at a much slower rate than 1 leap second every so many years. The length of time it takes the Earth, at the present time, to rotate once is 86,400.002 seconds compared to 86,400 seconds back in 1820. The rotation has slowed roughly only by 2 milliseconds since 1820. That seems like an insignificant amount of time BUT over the course of the planet's entire lifetime, it has had very profound effects on the geophysics of the planet.
Tracing these tiny milliseconds back for 4.5 billion years adds up to a very significant amount of time for a solar day. I have determined that the day/night rotation was 63,000 seconds shorter than the present 86,400 seconds it is today. This would put the Earth's rotation at about 6.5 hours per day/night cycle, when it was created, 4.5 billion years ago. (This is a much faster rate of rotation than the Cassini-Huygens mission (2003 to 2004) determined Saturn's 10.5 hours rotation period to be.)
Jerry ;)
Maybe thats why people in the bible lived so long.....
@ onthecuttingedge
we dispatch of more than 100,000 lbs each year by launching sattelites, pieces of the space station, exploration probes and whatnot. so the earth is in fact losing mass.
this does not affect the decay of its orbit. we're still falling into the sun, because we do not have a propulsion system to maintain or increase the earth's orbital-velocity around the sun.
mankinds historical approach to such problems, is to "do nothing" because in all reality, we are in no danger in our own lifetimes, or those of our great great grandchildren......
ultimately, for mankind to ensure its future and place in this universe, we must permanently colonate other planets/moons/space stations.
Gravity is not the only force involved in our obit of the sun. There are magnetic forces and electric forces that play a part also. Those forces are 80 times stronger that gravity.
In fact, I am not entirely convinced that gravity is not the interplay of those two forces (electrical and magnetic) pushing and pulling on huge charged masses in space, like the Earth.
I've heard that plasma cosmology explains why galaxies spin as fast as they do with out flying apart. Morons that are not far from believing that the Earth is flat or the center of the Universe have come up with some pure fantasy they call "dark matter" and "dark energy". (Am I living in the dark ages!?!)
The Earth is electrically charged. Know it. You live in an electrical plasma. Accept it and move on. (I bet you never noticed the ten thousand volts you had on you until you touched the door nob and got zapped.) (I bet you still don't notice the hundreds of volts you are charged with this very moment.)
I look up at the sky and don't see sky. I see electricity and magnetism. I force myself to see it. Charge, movement and magnetism at right angles. (Nobody else does, so I will)
Satellites within 20,000 miles are still trapped by Earth's Gravitational field and will eventually re-enter Earth's atmosphere, Satellites within 1000 miles of Earth will fall back to Earth in the next 20 years, the Satellite mass will stay on/around the Earth so long as the Satellite doesn't leave gravitational orbit which is somewhere close to the moon.
if it is gravitationally trapped it isn't going anywhere except back to Earth.
I really don't think we put 100,000 lbs of satellites a year into space anyways and knowing that 80 to 90% of the mass of average satellites are made of Beryllium which has a very very low weight ratio.
If you have some figures I would love to see them.
Thanks
Jerry ;)
Quote from: angryScientist on August 05, 2009, 10:05:43 PM
Gravity is not the only force involved in our obit of the sun. There are magnetic forces and electric forces that play a part also. Those forces are 80 times stronger that gravity.
In fact, I am not entirely convinced that gravity is not the interplay of those two forces (electrical and magnetic) pushing and pulling on huge charged masses in space, like the Earth.
I've heard that plasma cosmology explains why galaxies spin as fast as they do with out flying apart. Morons that are not far from believing that the Earth is flat or the center of the Universe have come up with some pure fantasy they call "dark matter" and "dark energy". (Am I living in the dark ages!?!)
The Earth is electrically charged. Know it. You live in an electrical plasma. Accept it and move on. (I bet you never noticed the ten thousand volts you had on you until you touched the door nob and got zapped.) (I bet you still don't notice the hundreds of volts you are charged with this very moment.)
I look up at the sky and don't see sky. I see electricity and magnetism. I force myself to see it. Charge, movement and magnetism at right angles. (Nobody else does, so I will)
I look at the sky and see various densities of energy even some that have condensed into what we call mass.
brian334 said:
Quote
Utilitarian,
My question is how can a satellite of earths get further away every year?
Can you answer this question?
Not likely.
But I am sure you can call me names.
@all
Take a look at this:
http://www.ridgenet.net/~do_while/sage/v2i2f.htm
Tidal effects of the earth-moon interaction cause the moon to lose energy, and to conserve momentum, it moves further away as the earth slows from oceanic friction by the tide's movements.
--Lee
there are many theories that describe how the moon came about to be Earth's satellite.
one theory I hold is long ago the now destroyed 5th (not Jupiter) planet that is now the Asteroid belt gave off a large piece of planetary shrapnel that got captured into Earth's planetary gravitation that over time reformed itself into a moon like planetoid. The moon has some rather huge Magma stress points like that of the sea of tranquility and so forth that indicated large tidal forces at some point in the moons history was tearing at its crust tremendously which also indicates that the moon was very much closer to the Earth at some point in its orbital exchange.
the only other theory that makes sense is that Earth at one time had a planetary dust ring like Saturn that coalesced into the moon but that is only my second thought. I prefer the first over the second.
Jerry ;)
What if earth WAS the 5th planet and we got hit just right by a comet, bumps us up to number three and the moon is whats left of the comet in orbit cleaning up the pieces, would years of liquid gasses burning off and sloshing around have the same effect as oceans? would there be evidence of this? an atmosphere on the moon or would the earth absorb it over time?
peace
The only rational theory about how the planets and moons were made is this.
The sun spits out the planets and the planets spit out there moons.
Than the sun sucks the mass of the planets back in with gravity.
Spitting and sucking... lol, well that explains everything. I wonder how Einstein in all his wisdom missed all this spitting and sucking.
You sound like an 8 year old trying to talk clever stuff to a 6 year old.
Please look up the word 'rational'... because there is nothing remotely rational about anything you say!
Quote from: brian334 on August 12, 2009, 04:51:47 PM
The only rational theory about how the planets and moons were made is this.
The sun spits out the planets and the planets spit out there moons.
Than the sun sucks the mass of the planets back in with gravity.
@brian334
From what I've read about stellar evolution, supernovae explosions deliberately and suddenly create uranium, thorium, etc. This allows planets like ours to exist with molten iron cores and also possess a magnet field.
Black holes do exist to take up at least some of the mass you say the sun consumes. Do you know exactly how this is done?
--Lee
A important thing to think about is the mass of a object changes over time.
Quote from: brian334 on August 12, 2009, 06:20:33 PM
A important thing to think about is the mass of a object changes over time.
No, this is not an important thing to think about. An object can gain or lose mass for all sorts of reason, like when you take a bite outa of an apple, it then has less mass. Earth gains mass because space dust lands on it. What the fuck does this have to do with anything? Why do you say these idiotic things? You are a complete fucking moron.
Brian, this is an example of a rational explanation...
Quote from: also antlike on August 12, 2009, 07:57:08 PM
You are a complete fucking moron.
...can you see the difference?
Blunt and straight to the point, Antlike person... why can't I be like this?
My ideas are advanced, some of you will never be able to understand them. LOL
It's like the Earth is in an elevator in free fall all the time. 'Nuff said. :)
MileHigh
Quote from: brian334 on August 18, 2009, 07:00:19 PM
My ideas are advanced, some of you will never be able to understand them. LOL
Hi Brian.
Gravity Tensor Fields are a Read between the lines force.
Jerry ;D
The problem with modern science is, it stops looking at the real world and starts making things up.
Quote from: brian334 on August 19, 2009, 06:26:36 PM
The problem with modern science is, it stops looking at the real world and starts making things up.
You know zero about modern science, so you are in no position to criticize it. Come back when you have takes some middle school science.