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WAKE UP ALREADY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlBg-hVTIOM
THE INNOVATION STATION TEAM!
This replication turned out pretty good---Woo Hoo ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZKdBryZPZ4
Quote from: allcanadian on December 13, 2008, 04:42:50 PM
This replication turned out pretty good---Woo Hoo ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZKdBryZPZ4
GREAT JOB AC
my neos are a little burnt lol .....
;D
anyone else ??
b4 we get to useing this power....
WELL YOU ALL WANTED FREE ENERGY...YOU GOT IT!!!
!ST - Show em how its done!
When in doubt flip it out!
All you haters - think, before you think.
Peace and respect to those trying to make a positive difference in this world.
Its Good To Have Friends In High Places
http://onering.ipower.com//JTsylph1.jpg
http://onering.ipower.com//JTsylph2.jpg
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2364
Now what? lol 8)
@ allcanadian:
Nice video! I noticed what looked like a blue plasma stream moving upwards at irregular intervals up to about 10" away from the MOT. Was this just due to to something in your camera (from the very bright flashes) or was that really there during your test? It reminded me of the northern lights almost. Very cool looking.
Bill
hello jt 8)
nice pic ....
dont you have a link some where to more info on that pic..... 8)
as well i made more videos and am still doing so
STILL NOT CHRISTMAS YET :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76JZDiRwais
ist!
Its nothing !
Only Back EMF (Sparks) from an big induction coil (Choke)
Try the same with an 10 time graeter "welding transformer"
you wil go to "wonderung"
(you can also use them to flash un bulb (lamp) over an lnger period.
But "its nothing" No Free" . Only physics.
Pese
Quote from: pese on December 13, 2008, 07:39:14 PM
Its nothing !
Only Back EMF (Sparks) from an big induction coil (Choke)
Try the same with an 10 time graeter "welding transformer"
you wil go to "wonderung"
(you can also use them to flash un bulb (lamp) over an lnger period.
But "its nothing" No Free" . Only physics.
Pese
IM ONLY USEING THE PRIMARY
PESE....
IST
CHOKE IS NOT USED IN ANY VIDS YET......
next vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlvKLmuHbqQ
BTW
THIS IS OLD NEWS LOL :D
i have gone 1000 steps further lol ;D
come on you all know me by now ;)
no sorry my advanced reserch will not be public .... :) gotta keep 1 in the back pocket ;) ya know
this is why i gave you this ..... ;D
ist
i have desinged power modules im aiming for 10 000 times amplifilication ... and it will fit in your hand ..... :)
so ... im still open for investment on the advanced tecks....
neo zap in the dark PROOF!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPyuonRitzo
Quote from: innovation_station on December 13, 2008, 08:08:33 PM
so ... im still open for investment on the advanced tecks....
What do you mean by that?
When you have rediscovered the Aether then you can say you have catched up to Tesla :p. But you're getting close. You should join the herd at the energetic forum.
Quote from: innovation_station on December 13, 2008, 07:52:50 PM
IM ONLY USEING THE PRIMARY
PESE....
IST
CHOKE IS NOT USED IN ANY VIDS YET......
next vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlvKLmuHbqQ
Yes sure. Like an choke
Induction coil.
that have big inductance from this 1kW type.
The bigger on (welding transo , also unsed only the primary, i have seen in youtube 20 second flashing an lamp with his powerfull Back-EMF
Pese
IST any way to measure the continuous power output...
This is pretty neat but... I will say I recall old farmers welding with 12v car batteries the spark is neat surely but I'd like to see some meter readings ...
Another thing to try is hydrogen production in this manner.
-infringer-
i under stand you now pese :)
i have big transformers comeing soon HUGE ONES......
my advanced stuff is far boend what im currently presenting here....
and you are only showen 2 parts of my process so far 1 hemf = power source 2 neo = amplification the other 3 parts of my process will not be talked of public... nor showen
from what i have given you you can power many things .... richard puts in 18 watts and is returned 50kw ;D :o 8) HELLO this is with what i have showen ... my advanced stuff super sees all of this
thank you ..
this works just try to prove it wrong :)
ist
i have already proven this true :)
hey did someone say we can do this from an aa battery.... lol 8)
ist neo zap running great high output http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvleOLh42uw
DEMO VID http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pPq16mQ0CI
Quote from: infringer on December 13, 2008, 08:35:44 PM
IST any way to measure the continuous power output...
This is pretty neat but... I will say I recall old farmers welding with 12v car batteries the spark is neat surely but I'd like to see some meter readings ...
Another thing to try is hydrogen production in this manner.
-infringer-
This welding, without an transformer is another thing.
you can welding with AC and DC.
Also the DC welding is different to use positive OR negative polarity to the electrode.
USE 3 pieces 12 volt tatteries in serie because normally 30 to 40 volts give the best results
Pese
@ INNOVATION
Possibly you have find some news (or losts(.
BUT usually , most (or all?) results, that was designed by ERROR.
Some (un)-knowledges in mesure wrong the input/output power
(not only the voltages , no sinus-AC values make problem to find the true values enz...)
If you want, let me see your "specials".
email accound you find in my OU - Profil.
Gustav Pese
next we add a cap and hv diode... 8)
to recover the power we can run a load right off the neos.... 8)
ist
ist square neo test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ6FJZHdF-g
i even did my cap charger vid .....
Quote from: broli on December 13, 2008, 08:24:19 PM
What do you mean by that?
When you have rediscovered the Aether then you can say you have catched up to Tesla :p. But you're getting close. You should join the herd at the energetic forum.
This is what I found in a quick search online for anyone interested.
QuoteTesla's aether concept
It is important to correctly comprehend Tesla's unique aether concept. The theory refers to an aether, but Tesla's aether is not analogous to classical aether theories. John J. O'Neill stated,
"Long ago he recognized that all perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the Akasha or luminiferous ether, acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never ending cycles all things and phenomena. The primary substance, thrown into infinitesimal whirls of prodigious velocity, becomes gross matter; the force subsiding, the motion ceases and matter disappears, reverting to the primary substance." (Grotz, 1997)
More...
http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:Tesla%27s_Dynamic_Theory_of_Gravity#Tesla.27s_aether_concept
QuoteAether 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR5DZPjW_VU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTPUa8hL9f
QuoteWIRELESS RADIANT ENERGY TRANSMISSION - AN UNDERSTANDING OF TESLA's AETHER FLUID PUMP SYSTEM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvxcUQdrPF8
QuoteLuminiferous aether
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether
Quote* The Aether - What is it?
o Aether (sometimes colloquially shortened to ether) is an ancient concept dating back into antiquity. The spelling "Aether" is used to help avoid the inevitable confusion of its similarity to the chemical compound ether, thus the old saw, "Aether is the medium of space while ether is the gas that knocks you out". However, although it is technically incorrect, both spelling are currently used interchangeably.
Thus, in its most basic form, aether is nothing more than a distributed physical medium permeating the entire universe, endowing it [space] with measurable physical qualities. Einstein readily acknowledged this when, in 1920 (See "Sidelights on Relativity", A. Einstein, Dover Edition 1983 Page 23), he said:
"… space is endowed with physical qualities;
in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether."
It is more important to point out here what aether is not required to be. Aether is not a preferred reference frame (it could be, but isn't required to be). The specific properties of the aether are not defined, as should be clear, from the above basic definition. To be a preferred reference frame, the aether and matter must be assigned certain characteristics, which is encompassed by specific models of aether. It is these specific variations and conceptual models that, once defined, can be evaluated and tested.
Contrary to popular myth, modern science isn't incompatible with, and does need, the aether concept. In fact, modern science could not be defined without incorporating some form of its definition into its foundation. Let's remember that the basic definition of aether is nothing more than a "physical medium permeating the entire universe, endowing it with measurable physical qualities". Currently, modern science uses the term "fields" or "fabric" instead of aether, since the term aether has become associated with a specific set of 19th century conceptual models considered to disproven and thus invalid.
* Q-002: Does the Michelson-Morley Experiment (MMX) disprove aether theories?
o The answer is no. What the famous Michelson-Morley Experiment showed us is that the assumption that one could use the aether frame as a preferred frame of reference in which to measure such things as motion, is invalid. This told us more about the physical qualities of matter and electromagnetic energy, than about proof of the presence, of lack thereof, of an aether. It clearly demonstrated our conceived notions about matter (at that time) and its interactions with the aether were incorrect. There have been several distinct experiments designed specifically to define the interaction of matter/EM energy with the underlying medium. Some of the more famous are:
more... http://www.mountainman.com.au/aeth_faq.htm
@innovation_station
Nice work mate, very interesting. I'm interested to see how you power a load off the amplified spark.
How much else of this work do you intend to share with the forum, or do you intend to try and market the advanced tech that you are working on?
Either way, thanks for sharing thus far.
Ben.
the world must understand my basic stuff.... b4 my advanced stuff will be of any importance :)
my modules are 4 months away meaning i am still designing it however i dont have to prove anything it is NATURE :)
ist!
yes time for a song.... HEAVENS TABLE... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRsXUExNAmc
from the guy who stopped for the child in the street ..... to put a dollar in his hand for something to eat.....
not only angles sit at heavens table.... :)
ist
peace and eternal love!!
Nature?
What might be your example found within nature from which you come to this conclusion.
Is it a storm ? The rubbing of different layers of the atmosphere building charges to create an enormous power source or is a lightning something different the elements of a storm are pretty fundamental.
High pressure system moves in on low pressure pushing the low pressure further south then bingo the temperature increases and moisture gathers till the point it begins to dump on us. The only thing I do not quite understand is why snow storms do not bring lightning seeing as how they should be more dry... Is it the moisture that allows for this bolt of energy to travel to the ground causing a chain spark gap reaction? Or is the answer more simple like the cold does not allow for charge to build to a sufficient temperature much like the issue we find in batteries?
IST I really enjoy your post do not take this as yourself being criticized but, the only way for me to understand is thicker substance and if you would like a brisk transition to understanding of your years of work it will not happen without an in depth explanation! So what is it you want folks to comprehend tell them and they will choose weather to follow along or not.
Where is Sparks at I am shocked he has not jumped in on this discussion nor others like communication discussion...
-infringer-
@infringer
magnet + power + sparks = thundercloud + friction + lightning
In cold weather the rain droplets cannot combine friction since they are being transformed into lighter snowflakes that will dissipate the friction to below the lightning critical levels.
But I have seen lightning in snow storms when the weather was much more humid then normal and clouds were dark greyish/blue. Pretty freaky.
@IST
Try it by sticking a metal plate over the magnet and spark on the metal plate. This may save your magnets. lol
Also, is there a difference with only 1 or 2 magnets and how are your magnets polarized. From what I can see, you have simply recreated a reed switch with magnet quenching, without the advantage of the vacuum of the reed switch containing the fusion potential.
Pretty cool. I might have to dig out some stuff and play with this.
Can you light a 60watt bulb with that?
Brad
I dunno if that is correct but sounds accurate more mass falls in less time is it possible that we could create lightning by dropping large amounts of water from high altituides? There is more to it while not relevant I suppose.
I am curious as IST's relation to nature how does his device show what naturally occurs in nature?
I'm all for magnetic quenching in spark gaps, but I wonder in this case if the magnetic field of the neos in ist's demo is doing what we might think it is. Have you been able to rule out a contribution to the appearance of the spark from the nickel coating of the magnets, or more likely from the sintered NdFeB material itself, which is quite flammable?
It would be interesting to see the demo, with a comparison between the neos as shown, and some just nickel, and some unmagnetized or demagnetized NdFeB blanks. Then we might be able to judge how important the various variables are to the result.
Why something "shining" got to be over unity.
I guess it just defines state of mind.
Maybe it is just something of LRC circuit ?
How you will get a energy out of it ? Is it a some kind of experiment that shows/proofs some smaller part.
Breakthrough ::)
Can we connect the amazing cap technology to this and make a super bomb ?
Yes if you stick a foil baseball card in the microwave it does pretty much the same thing there is arcs on the foil and the fall out from that leaves spots where the foil is blasted off deelectroplating or something lol..
It is crazy but you are correct a lot of things to comprehend beneath the surface of the workings of IST's device.
@ IST
No offense meant by this rebuttal but....Having dealt with Patents before and the fact that you mentioned Magnacoasters version of using magnets,coils and frequencies to get OU would null and void your chances for an improved patent and investors because of prior art.
I still am pulling for you on bettering and improving things if turns out to work for us all but please consider going strictly open source with your ideas before you get hit by the bus of life and loose the chance to make life better for us all ;D If history serves here is that every inventor that ever tried to claim OU ended up on the wrong side of town, stay on our turf and you might survive the transition from failure to success :)
Regards,
Paul
I am not sure what some people see in this. The sparks are caused by the plating on the magnets. The voltage/current is running along the outside of the magnet through the plating not through the magnets. Sorry, but I don't think there is nothing special about this breakthrough.
Ist it a bird, Ist it a plane, no, it Ists super spark, able to waste good electricity with a mighty sparking bang.
Faster than a load of Ozzies lookin for a beer at a barbeque, stronger than a pit bull on steroids, able to inspire all to leap to tall conclusions at a single bound.
Yes ists super spark !. :o .......... stay tuned for the next great breakthrough ::) ..
KneeDeep
Hi folks. I have replicated the NeoZap basic effect. I used a MOT just like innovation used and started with a 2500mah nimh AA cell and it made some pretty good cracks and flashes, then i went to 3 AA's and it was almost deafening the cracks it made and plasma arcs were amazing. I checked as innovation did by shorting the batteries and yellow sparks were barely visible and then i shorted the primary coil and the sparks were a little better but next to no audible noise as far as discharge cracks were heard. Also the 14 guage wire did not stick to the primary mot terminal. Now when attaching seven 1/8" thick by 1" dia. stacked neo magnets the 14 guage wire almost welded to the magnets which of course indicates large amperage along with the high volatge. I then connected an 11W incand. w/ one wire at end of neo's the other at opposite primary terminal and was able to light the bulb to maybe 2 or 3 watt level while this was not possible from quickly striking the primary terminal without magnet attached. This certainly is in line with what Joseph Newman spoke of that current is just gyroscopic magnets so maybe its flowing in a complimentary fashion right through the neo's or its some kind of magnetic compression like Aronn spoke of about the ed gray device as in the water spark plug. Anyway, thanks for sharing this information and yes history does show the only way to do something truly good has to be given freely just as love has to be given freely with no conditions.
peace, love, light
UPDATE! :)
this is VERRY REAL and i have had offers to devolop 1 mw units .... for a few countries.... around the globe.......
i have had other offers aswell that i have been asked not to post
JUST BUILD IT AND PERFECT IT!!!
IST
Quote from: hoptoad on December 15, 2008, 12:38:53 AM
Ist it a bird, Ist it a plane, no, it Ists super spark, able to waste good electricity with a mighty sparking bang.
Faster than a load of Ozzies lookin for a beer at a barbeque, stronger than a pit bull on steroids, able to inspire all to leap to tall conclusions at a single bound.
Yes ists super spark !. :o .......... stay tuned for the next great breakthrough ::) ..
KneeDeep
Yup and don’t roll your eyes: ist electric welding soon to be discovered! ;)
A cupl mor largr zapprs whic ist to be coz they lmost ar, as said by the great ones before. ;D
Quote from: tinu on December 15, 2008, 10:36:30 AM
Yup and don’t roll your eyes: ist electric welding soon to be discovered! ;)
A cupl mor largr zapprs whic ist to be coz they lmost ar, as said by the great ones before. ;D
YEP WITH EXTREAMLY LOW IMPUTTED POWER ;)
IST
i want to ask you all...... DO YOU SEE ANY SILICON PARTS IN MY UNIT ;D
i didnt think so ;)
Quote from: innovation_station on December 15, 2008, 10:41:24 AM
YEP WITH EXTREAMLY LOW IMPUTTED POWER ;)
IST
i want to ask you all...... DO YOU SEE ANY SILICON PARTS IN MY UNIT ;D
i didnt think so ;)
Don't tell anyone about this crazy idea i have IST
You see i get 2 polystyrene cups and a length of string and join them together .. I call it telefontechnica
shhh .. its going to be huge !!!
What you have there inno is a magnetically constucted plasma field. Get rid of the magnets and arc straight to the terminal for proof of concept and you'll get some boring yellow sparks. You can get a better spark if you use two carbon brushes with a dipole shape. One on the wire and one on a wire that is attached to the transformer terminal but in the field of the magnets. Carbon has negative resistance with heat rise so the current in the plasma pinch zone gets a nice energetic input.
Hi all ;D
@ IST - nice one - certainly seems to be something here, ive been doing some tests myself using an ignition coil and a 25mm neo with a pwm (100hz) controller to 'buzz' it with, interesting results in my own crude little way - i was just wondering if you could post anything towards the capturing side of things? - i respect you cant give away too much :)
that would be much appreciated by all ,
cheers, eel ;)
@IST
Regarding your MOT-MAG-SPARKER can you try putting one side of the secondary to the terminal that has the magnet and measure the output on the other wire of the secondary. This may be very high voltage. lol
@wattsup
Just tried your suggestion, input power of 12V 3A, on my little digital meter (supposed to max out at 500V) it showed just under 2kV. Not sure if this is accurate by any stretch, but thought I'd post it anyhow.
Regards,
Ben.
@Bennyboy
How did you do your connections from the primary to the secondary. I tried it and it does not give good results at all.
I tried his set-up also with neos, sparking on the magnets, sparking on a metal washer stuck to the magnets then simply sparking on the MOT positive terminal directly and all three seemed to be the same. I had my huge dioded cap on the secondary just to see any output and in all cases voltage rose to around 250 vdc with about 8 sparks. Seems pretty consistent with what I have seen before.
You can also leave the magnets on the positive with the positive power connected and spark the negative side and it will do the same effect.
I also tried my trusty reed switch on the positive of the transformer with a magnet positioned at an angle to get the reed going. This gave the best results with a voltage rise to 800 volts in about 6-7 seconds. But in all cases, the amperage is minimal. Hmmmmm.
Quote from: wattsup on December 16, 2008, 01:32:23 AM
@Bennyboy
How did you do your connections from the primary to the secondary. I tried it and it does not give good results at all.
I tried his set-up also with neos, sparking on the magnets, sparking on a metal washer stuck to the magnets then simply sparking on the MOT positive terminal directly and all three seemed to be the same. I had my huge dioded cap on the secondary just to see any output and in all cases voltage rose to around 250 vdc with about 8 sparks. Seems pretty consistent with what I have seen before.
You can also leave the magnets on the positive with the positive power connected and spark the negative side and it will do the same effect.
I also tried my trusty reed switch on the positive of the transformer with a magnet positioned at an angle to get the reed going. This gave the best results with a voltage rise to 800 volts in about 6-7 seconds. But in all cases, the amperage is minimal. Hmmmmm.
i wonder why..... lol
size of neos... size of primary amount of input ... ???
ist
AND LOCATION.....
why not amp on the way in and amp on the way out..... ;)
@wattsup
I connected it exactly as you suggested in your previous post. I am seeing just below 2kV and amperages of upto 17amps (input is 12V DC 3A). These can be had in 4-5 sparks.
Again, not sure if these measurements are accurate as my multimeter is a cheapie.
Regards,
Ben.
@Wattsupp
QuoteYou can also leave the magnets on the positive with the positive power connected and spark the negative side and it will do the same effect.
I also tried my trusty reed switch on the positive of the transformer with a magnet positioned at an angle to get the reed going. This gave the best results with a voltage rise to 800 volts in about 6-7 seconds. But in all cases, the amperage is minimal. Hmmmmm.
I think your making this harder than it needs to be, the first question to ask is where does the power come from---where was it and where has it gone? Well we have a spark and a magnet and a transformer, which everyone has seen many times. The problem is very few people understand what the spark "is", what form of energy it represents, what a magnetic field "is" and where the field comes from, the properties and qualities inherent in transformers having magnetic and air cores. We are dealing with fields and these fields interact, we may consider some of these fields as static but none of them are---they are dynamic. I would recommend looking at the fields present and how they interact, if you do this you can build this puppy blindfolded, LOL.
Regards
AC
Well I've been playing with this for a few hours now, and every so often I seem to be getting a tingling (mildly painful) sensation in either my arm or sometimes in the face region. Not sure if this is some kind of RF or RE?
Anyone else experiencing this at all?
Cheers,
Ben.
Hi folks, hi benny. Yes in fact while i was testing those effects as stated in previous post my wife was sitting about 5 feet away and complained of some uncomfortable sensations on her face and neck area however i did not seem to notice anything. maybe similar to what Tesla spoke of the stinging effect that went through anything. Still playing around with this and trying to figure out how to utilize this for practical power generation.
peace, love, light
Quote from: innovation_station on December 13, 2008, 08:08:33 PM
BTW
THIS IS OLD NEWS LOL :D
i have gone 1000 steps further lol ;D
come on you all know me by now ;)
no sorry my advanced reserch will not be public .... :) gotta keep 1 in the back pocket ;) ya know
this is why i gave you this ..... ;D
ist
i have desinged power modules im aiming for 10 000 times amplifilication ... and it will fit in your hand ..... :)
so ... im still open for investment on the advanced tecks....
neo zap in the dark PROOF!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPyuonRitzo
congrats !
have you salved the problem of oxidation and material loss when spark is created... and allso huge RF disturbance to other
appliances ?
otherwise it works on material transmutation and burning(oxidation) of material (like burning oil - nothing new and far from free)
Wiz
The secret is to burn something other then metal, something that we don't mind burning.
Any ideas?
Quote from: AbbaRue on December 16, 2008, 07:47:12 AM
The secret is to burn something other then metal, something that we don't mind burning.
Any ideas?
Money !? :D ...comes as first idea
but thinking
Can water replace copper here in this setup ?
that way we get additional h2 o2 ?
Wiz
Maybe a "Back to the Futur" plasma burner???????????
Well we know the plasma in the spark itself is a conductive oscillator that adds 100's of pulsations with each attack of the wire that we think is only making one spark.
There will also be generated flyback on this so I think using batteries to see if the voltage will rise while running the spark is possible instead of using my power supply at 18 vdc. Maybe two 12vdc batteries in series. .
Where is the quantifiable proof that there is a "breakthrough" in what we see here ?
A plasma arc can cause nitrogen and oxygen to burn and you get heat and this nasty nitrous oxide. Now if you put water in it you get hydrogen and oxygen but the hydrogen you get isn't your everyday hydrogen it's heavy hydrogen and it likes to bust down into regular hydrogen real quick. Pop goes the plasma.
i have done some simple tests to make a electrostatic/dieelectric / magnetic propelled self timed sparker ;)
verry kool
but it needs work...
i think many fail to see the connection here the hemf is amped through the neos 8)
why? :)
ist
of cource this goes way beond this ;) were still dealing with the basic stuff...here
soon we will add the neozap ampping to my ozone rep mot of ERFINDERS WORK ;D
to limit imputted engry from the system....
here is my replication of erfinders mot unit i made my own
About the neo zap: Putting a small motor between the square mags and wire could give interesting results.
Someone tried to explain it:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4214.msg87384#msg87384
I still would like to know if the magnetic field is the important factor here, or are you burning Nd or Nickel? And, if you are burning Nd, is it possible that MHD effects could be occurring in or around the arc to magnify the current output?
@IST
Don't think I did not notice your last set-up. Interesting....
Are all the blacks going on the MOT chassis?
This is not the too-the-letter Erfinder circuit, but you knew that already. lol
But I get what your do'in. This is an IST circuit.
I did not see any diode on the cap but there could be one in those two black corlon water pipes. lol
Hey what's in those pipes. lol
Can you make a diagram?????????????
@IST
Does this effect work when the neo's are connected at the end of longer piece of wire away from the MOT.
Just wondering if the close proximity to the MOT is necessary.
You may have discovered the secret to getting the carbon to boron to carbon transmutation system going. ;D
Place a stack of ringed neo's around the end of a carbon rod the way they are placed on the MOT terminal.
Then use another carbon rod for the other terminal and do the arcing.
12 inch carbon rods only cost 50 cents a piece at a welding shop and if this will work we will have something.
You may have sparked ;D new life into the Carbon fusion thread.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1310.930
UncleFester were are you?
If using magnets at one end of an arc has this kind of results what about magnets at both ends.
Does it amplify the output even more?
Place ring magnets around the ends of 2 carbon rods and see if it has the same effect as arcing the neo's directly.
Quote from: AbbaRue on December 19, 2008, 12:29:05 PM
@IST
Does this effect work when the neo's are connected at the end of longer piece of wire away from the MOT.
Just wondering if the close proximity to the MOT is necessary.
You may have discovered the secret to getting the carbon to boron to carbon transmutation system going. ;D
Place a stack of ringed neo's around the end of a carbon rod the way they are placed on the MOT terminal.
Then use another carbon rod for the other terminal and do the arcing.
12 inch carbon rods only cost 50 cents a piece at a welding shop and if this will work we will have something.
You may have sparked ;D new life into the Carbon fusion thread.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1310.930
UncleFester were are you?
what can i say ;D ;D ;D
i will try it out they dont need be at the tranny nor be sparked ;)
ist
@innovation_stat
The NEO ZAP demo sparks because of the back e.m.f. from the transformer inductor. It stepped up to a high voltage with 4A current, while disconnection. Which release energy from the inductor when reconnection that is a huge power but very short time. Sum up all pulses or average is the same energy. No O.U. just another Joule thief device. Nothing to do with the Neo-magnet. It just a tool in your magic show. I think you should have this knowledge, don't you?
Quote from: tosky on December 20, 2008, 02:26:13 AM
@innovation_stat
The NEO ZAP demo sparks because of the back e.m.f. from the transformer inductor. It stepped up to a high voltage with 4A current, while disconnection. Which release energy from the inductor when reconnection that is a huge power but very short time. Sum up all pulses or average is the same energy. No O.U. just another Joule thief device. Nothing to do with the Neo-magnet. It just a tool in your magic show. I think you should have this knowledge, don't you?
Well, I think we all realize the sparks come from that kind of action. What's interesting to me is the difference in the apparent strength, or energy, of the sparks when the NdBFe, nickel coated, magnets are added.
I have my doubts that the magnetic field has anything to do with the effect myself, so that's why I asked for some control experiments, and even put forth the MHD idea in case the magnetic field is important along with burning Nd or nickel. Without good current measurements and controls with non-magnetized or demagnetized NdBFe blanks, we'll just be speculating, won't we.
it is actually unity operation or operation with unity ;)
lol
there is free engery entered into the system ... just that lil kick from stopping the flow.... ;D and amped from the earths magnetic feild... and then further strengthined from the neos...
ist
so ou well....... u for sure ... lol
but we will call it operation with the assistance of unity... 8)
Nothing to do with the Neo-magnet, which has a good conducting surface. Same result if clean surface copper. Strong spark comes from [strong transformer inductor] with (4A big current) which equal to (high Volt) in a [big capacitor] stored much energy. Play something else useful, don't waste your precious time.
please explain allcanadians replication then with 24v 1 amp
ist
@Inno
great work! i want to make a suggestion.
take your stack of neos, wether it be round, square, whatever...
slide it inside an appropriately sized metal casing (tight fit).
solder a cable to that and connect it to a proper spark-gap.
this will allow you to maintain a steady frequency, from which measurements can be made.
There is some induction, even though you are only using the primary - i imagine this 19v comes out something like 30-50v? the current will appear confusing without frequency / capaticance measurements.
the current flows in, and is slowed not only by its own induction, but by the secondary field presented in the ferrous by the NEO's FIELD!!! basically turning it into an LC circuit. we know the induction value of the primary, thats in the specs of the transformer.
what we need to figure out is the capacitance. AND/OR the frequency,DC voltage and curent values on the output. The change in input current should reflect this frequency.
what would be ideal is to see this thing on a dual-scope input vs output.
the above mentioned modification will make this possible.
@innovation_stat
Other players have longer charge time.
Replace the Neo-magnet with a shiny metal plate, you will see same result.
Replace the transformer inductor with a smaller inductance inductor, you will see different result.
Then you will end this game.
@ IST! & All
How do you make this work to an OU advantage? The spark tells the tale but how do you go about amplifying the energy? Somehow this has to progress from a spark to a useful output circuit? So how does one couple the output usefully to a gain in the end?
Sorry for all the questions.
Regards,
Paul
@Goat
No O.U. advantage, because Energy=power*time, the output must less than input energy when spark power have to be averaged by time.
I just don't understand why so many interested in such store energy then discharge devices. The big power is because the current charged to the inductor (in long time) then discharged (in short time). The spark is a typical operation of this effect. The release of energy is not continuously connected to a load. Please don't waste your precious time.
to extract power play with a light bulb :P i used 60w 120 v and guess what the spark never decreased in size lol ;D
ist.......
peace and merry christmas to all :)
i wont post a pic nor a vid.....
dosent mean i didnt do it :P my question is this how many bulbs might it light ;)
now go charge your batteries/caps lol
The tungsten thread in the light bulb is heated to light, when pulse input power input is same heat then light. You must measure oscilloscope or by AC RMS or pure DC. in order to say true 60W dissipation. Light bulb show is a typical magic show.
Im not a naysayer or anything but I think I agree with tosky on this one, the coil stores the energy and then its discharged in a very short period of time causing a very high energy spark in a very short period of time.
A step up DC-DC converter charging a capacitor to 100s of volts, then shorting it to cause a spark would give similiar effect.
Another explanation is the coil produces high voltage spikes causing sparks when disrupted, coupled with low voltage high amp from the DC PSU giving that "plasma spark" effect.
Unless there is something else is happening here. ???
Quote from: innovation_station on December 21, 2008, 01:16:17 AM
to extract power play with a light bulb :P i used 60w 120 v and guess what the spark never decreased in size lol ;D
If you can maintain the brightness of the bulbs as if they are powered from the wall socket continously then you might have something there.
Try 3 bulbs or more.
Quote from: innovation_station on December 21, 2008, 01:16:17 AM
to my question is this how many bulbs might it light ;)
my answer is :: MORE lightbulbs thna you can light with the 19v, 4A power supply.
Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 21, 2008, 01:48:05 AM
my answer is :: MORE lightbulbs thna you can light with the 19v, 4A power supply.
;D
ist!
@innovation_stat
It is because the resistant is so high for a 19V power source, it must be less than 1A current to light bulb (dissipating 20W). when your joule thief device help to step up to more than 100V when pulsing input source. This gives a change to flow more current in the bulb. For a 80W power supply at say 100V will have 0.8A to the light bulb (dissipating 80W). Reasonable no O.U. So this is a typical magic show.
Basic step up, exactly how hes pulsing the power as shown by the switch >
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boost_converter
Quote from: Chris31 on December 21, 2008, 03:17:47 AM
Basic step up, exactly how hes pulsing the power as shown by the switch >
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boost_converter
in your digram what if.......
you had a cap across the switch and a motor as a load .....
;D ;)
ist im just guessing here....... that the cap will be charged from the fly back from the load and dumped with the next pulse.... lol
well how about the ist neo zap kick start ;D
@ captian pecan .... you got a bit of experience here bro 8)
Quote from: innovation_station on December 21, 2008, 03:36:46 AM
in your digram what if.......
you had a cap across the switch and a motor as a load .....
;D ;)
ist im just guessing here....... that the cap will be charged from the fly back from the load and dumped with the next pulse.... lol
A big cap directly across the switch? LOL
@innovation_stati
It will short circuit when SW on.
It will discharge to the load until 0.6V.
If discharge long enough to let it under 0.6V there will be no problem at short circuit. otherwise there will waste energy to the SW and will damage the SW. If put a capacitor there without the SW. will average the stored energy becomes a typical low pass filter good for obtaining pure DC.
The sparks are impressive, but a look at the videos, makes me wonder how much magnet material is being burned away. Remember, from basic chemistry, most metals release plenty of energy when reacted with oxygen. It wouldn't surprise me one bit, if neodymium acts a bit like aluminum in a thermite reaction, or as combustion catalyst for iron. Fun stuff to experiment with though, if you play safe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite
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Your investor fell through, what a suprise..... ::)
*yawn*
Quote from: Bennyboy on February 14, 2009, 10:00:32 PM
Your investor fell through, what a suprise..... ::)
*yawn*
YEP NEAR AS I CAN TELL HE CAME HE STOLE HE LEFT
.....
but guess what ... lol HE WILL SOON LEARN HE WILL GAIN NO PATTENDS ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
WHY LOL
ist!!!
60 W LIGHT BULB AND NEO ZAP
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri_HbDCwf_E
QuoteYEP NEAR AS I CAN TELL HE CAME HE STOLE HE LEFT
Stole what exactly... your neos? What a bugger! You said it's all public domain.
Apart from the fact that I'm 100% sure that these so-called investors are just a figment of your imagination, and with the usual Ist bullshit aside, has it not occurred to you that an 'investor' would expect a return on his/her money?
Check out the word 'investment' in your dictionary (if you can find one without pictures) and then you might realise that open sourcing your ideas in the public domain would not be what any investor would want to hear.
But why am I even bothering... it's all completely irrelevant isn't it... because anything can happen when you live in a fantasy world.
" But why am I even bothering "
Further to that why don't you leave people alone ?
You have also taken unprovoked shots at me.
Live and let live...you will find your life will start to turn around, and you will no longer feel the urge to attack others who have done nothing to you.
Ist has shared many of ideas here which I and others have found helpful in the cause.
The only feeling of well being that lasts for any length of time is when you help others.
Regards...
QuoteIst has shared many of ideas here which I and others have found helpful in the cause
You have got to be joking... I mean, you can't be serious... can you?? If so there are more people around here with more problems than I ever imagined.
I do not feel the urge to attack others... my 'urge' is simply to highlight the utter stupidity and nonsense around here. It's nothing personal, I'll speak up against anyone that continually posts complete and utter bullshit.
By rights shouldn't we be able to expect a little science on a forum such as this - at least a little intelligent discussion - not constant science fiction, fantasy and continuous, never-ending bullshit!
Amongst a million other pathetic posts, Ist once claimed that he could now make gold from lead. Then we have nitinnum who used to be an angel in a 5D existence and talks about the great pyramid fueling Altantean flying war-saucers from charged water... and you think this is acceptable or to be tolerated??
What is this an infant school playground? It certainly seems to be a focal point for the mentally challenged.
If they're not creating their own nonsense threads, these idiots are forever contaminating other peoples decent threads and disrupting any possible intelligent discussion. But that's OK because, hey ho, 'live and let live'.
It's about time a moderator started doing some useful moderating around here instead of simply deleting something that he or she didn't personally agree with.
The place needs a real wake up call, it's all becoming very 'Alice in Wonderland' and no-one seems to give a shit!
What is BS to you just might spark an idea in others...lend a hand or please don't get in the way.
I will listen to anyone...I may not heed their advice or direction, but that way I won't miss a potential nugget.
That is why I prefer a natural flow of dialogue.
Progress is made from the exchange of ideas...personal remarks can only slow down progress.
Regards...
Don't remind me about living in the fifth dimension.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on August 01, 2009, 03:25:34 PM
Progress is made from the exchange of ideas...personal remarks can only slow down progress.
Disregarding and trying to reinvent proven science is probably the biggest progress hindering factors here... But another hindering factor, as Farrah Day mentioned, is the many, many, nut cases (Sorry! There's no other word to describe these guys) that try to push their far-out unscientific theories...
Not only do these folks push their misinformation & bizzare theories which can seriously confuse people new to science, but they "scare away" most science minded (smart!) folks who can add something truly interesting (and useful) to the OU.com discussions.
People seem to be very, very confused here for the most part... Lets start at the basics....
What is more valuable and more informative?
1.) IST banging a wire on a neo magnet, which in turn makes sparks, and stating "look how much power is here!"
2.) Someone with a calorimeter, measuring excess heat evolving form a coil or an electrolytic cell?
The answer should be obvious to people who know the difference between "nifty sparks" and "useful information". IST doesn't even make any sort of power measurements..
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 01, 2009, 03:09:24 PM
You have got to be joking... I mean, you can't be serious... can you?? If so there are more people around here with more problems than I ever imagined.
I do not feel the urge to attack others... my 'urge' is simply to highlight the utter stupidity and nonsense around here. It's nothing personal, I'll speak up against anyone that continually posts complete and utter bullshit.
By rights shouldn't we be able to expect a little science on a forum such as this - at least a little intelligent discussion - not constant science fiction, fantasy and continuous, never-ending bullshit!
Amongst a million other pathetic posts, Ist once claimed that he could now make gold from lead. Then we have nitinnum who used to be an angel in a 5D existence and talks about the great pyramid fueling Altantean flying war-saucers from charged water... and you think this is acceptable or to be tolerated??
What is this an infant school playground? It certainly seems to be a focal point for the mentally challenged.
If they're not creating their own nonsense threads, these idiots are forever contaminating other peoples decent threads and disrupting any possible intelligent discussion. But that's OK because, hey ho, 'live and let live'.
It's about time a moderator started doing some useful moderating around here instead of simply deleting something that he or she didn't personally agree with.
The place needs a real wake up call, it's all becoming very 'Alice in Wonderland' and no-one seems to give a shit!
Farrah Day:
Cute name, it is a shame you have no idea who he was. IST is a valued member of this forum and has given much of himself and has shared with others. sure, he might not be right all of the time but then, I ask the question looking back over all of your posts, what have you shared? Who have you helped?
(silence)
I thought so.
So if IST's ideas are "out there" and "never work" I would expect to see your replications of these ideas and your experimental results.
(silence once again)
I am not surprised. It is so much easier to do nothing and to throw rocks at the ones that do.....pity that.
William is either a genius or has some problems. The same could easily be said of any one of us here. At least he IS DOING STUFF and sharing his research so, I am not really sure exactly how you think you are qualified to determine what stuff he has shown is good, and what is not.
Lighten up. By the way, we, who are also moderators, know who you really are.
Bill
thank you i just got a chance to read this thred and i will not lash back
indeed do the tests ... and go teach yourself something usefull ...
this is old news but everybody says it is this it is that ... well there it is ...
lol
you decide and tell my why this does this ... also tell me why my selfrunning motor accelerates while under load tell me why never mind i could fill pages .. i dont think many can answer and if they can ... congrats to them!
sheesh how many threds i got ? lol how many answers do you want and how much of a simpler form do you want it in ...
wants and needs ... sir ...
i thought i wanted .. but in reality i needed ... agin do you know why ? im sure a few here know who i have been in the past and also know what lie a head ...
perhaps it is written in stone .. sir! ;)
william
btw i do realize i was kinda harsh on the investor post ... but it is all about learning .... and it was obvesly clear to the potincial investors i have demo ed to in the past that i was not in my personal life ready to takel all my ideas yet
so time teaches you ... and you realize exactly how it was to unfold.. so lets just say im sure they will return ;)
i post basic designs... i have many advanced designs ... of course i know how and why it operates the way most of my things do ... but there always acceptions ... so ... i could never know all about it as im sure it just gets crazyer so keep it simple ...
ill leave you with this question ... i would like the correct answer ...
why did the edison generators kill people when switched off?
answer kcik :D
Pirate,
Who have you helped? Who have you misled? Who are you kidding?
Wake up dude!
PICS
IST
TAKEN FROM MIT YOUTUBE VIDEO ...
WHO'S KIDDING WHO HERE ...
IM RIGHT HERE BACKING UP MY WORDS ... LOL WHAT ARE YOU DOING SIR? ...
*** REMOVED***
Quote from: Pirate88179 on August 02, 2009, 01:02:41 AM
Hey, why don't you wake up? Who have I helped? Is that your question? Ask around and see...but then, I don't really care what you do. Misled? Wow, that is a good one. Gee, let me think......ummmm.... NO ONE! Wow, that was easy.
Get a life and try reading instead of posting for a change, you will get along better with your fellow man.
What a waste of Stefan's bandwidth now committed to your inane post.
Bill
Bill,
I'm not trying to convince people that electrochemical voltages are Telluric, earth voltages... That would be you.
Nb
OK i bring to the surface yet 1 more question ....
just because you mention it lol
NB
we all know about warencliff tower right .... 8 sides .... and the long sprial stair case ...
why the deep hole ... ;) :D :D :D
rotflmao
ist!
Quote from: innovation_station on August 02, 2009, 01:14:16 AM
we all know about warencliff tower right .... 8 sides .... and the long sprial stair case ...
Everyone might know about the warencliff tower. But not many know what it was used for, or if it even did anything at all...
If you think you know... You are just speculating.
Quote
why the deep hole ... ;) :D :D :D
rotflmao
Why the deep hole? You tell me.
Alright All....CHILL...LOL...
How in the heck do these things get started....wasn't this a sleeping thread....
Is there or is there not any OU here? If so prove it, please speculate as how it can be used to achieve OU.
Otherwise move on or ignore it already....LOL
Stephan...we have a bar here with a back door and some folks are just about ready to duke it out...LOL
Chill out bros....
Paul
Quote from: newbie123 on August 02, 2009, 01:20:35 AM
Everyone might know about the warencliff tower. But not many know what it was used for, or if it even did anything at all...
If you think you know... You are just speculating.
Why the deep hole? You tell me.
@ newbie123 & IST
I think the deep hole was just to create a potential difference, maybe something to do with voltage gradients.
i do agree ill leave the hole alone ...
lol
this is a good test the neo zap and it will teach you things not commonally understood....
i shared my most basic results ..
lets ask the question why the light lights at all peroid ... it will not lite from the inputted power alone .. so what is actually takeing place ... in this simple motionless generator ...
at least i didnt use a 1000w light bulb to demo this effect .... ;D i mean i could have if you wanted ...
it is not self running ... it is in its simplest form
now prove there is not ou here ... and i could cascade it as per my original design ... and litterly scare the shit out of you but why would i do that ...
baby steps ... remember ... ;)
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@goat that is a darn good answer ... ;D
Quote from: Goat on August 02, 2009, 01:30:33 AM
@ newbie123 & IST
I think the deep hole was just to create a potential difference, maybe something to do with voltage gradients.
Not to be a prick... But "I think" isn't really valid here... Anyone can dig a 1000+ ft hole, build a 1000+ ft tower, and check a voltages between (this has been done)... Does the potential difference between two depths create usable energy? Probably not at these magnitudes..
Quote from: newbie123 on August 02, 2009, 01:39:05 AM
Not to be a prick... But "I think" isn't really valid here... Anyone can dig a 1000+ ft hole, build a 1000+ ft tower, and check a voltages between... Does the potential difference between two depths create usable energy? Probably not at these magnitudes..
@ newbie123
No offense meant by "I think", you are right, a better choice of words could have been "Is it possible that the hole was used to create....?"
Quote from: innovation_station on August 02, 2009, 01:35:54 AM
i do agree ill leave the hole alone ...
What? You brought it up, why don't you tell us what you meant... Since you are so confident ;) :D ;D :D
@ IST
With all do respect...Show newbie123 the OU money...please....LOL
i will say my thoughts on the hole are sole ly based upon speculation ...
and nothing more .. well mabe intution as i have done with 99 percent of my ideas..
big deep hole what if he has a few eb's ther to generate the engery to drive the station ...
depth = amparage no
lol
well i know round my parts they sell geo thermal... heating it is widelly accepted ...
well eb time ... in and out in 5 hours.... sure i have a compleate design ...
lol then i have about 300 above ground amps is TESLA POWER UNITS ... T.P.U... .... i could drive with it ....
EACH AND EVERY RING I HAVE EVER WOUND USES THIS KICK
IST...
GET A LITTLE FOR FREE FROM THE DIRT THAN SPEED THE CRAP OUT OF IT AND RERLEASE IT UPON COLPASE ...
BLA BLA BLA ... HOW MANY DIFFRENT WAYS SHALL I DO IT ... IT ALL COMES BACK TO 2 THINGS ... THE KICK AND THE FEEDBACK ... PEROID
Quote from: newbie123 on August 02, 2009, 02:00:58 AM
Uhhh... No. Depth != amperage
I DONT KNOW ... FOR SURE AS I HAVE NOT DONE IT BUT I THINK JIM MAY KNOW BETTER HE WAS JUST GETTING SOME GOOD VOLTAGE ... PLUS WHO CARES HOW MUCH AMPARAGE YOU GET ...
LOL
I HAVE SO MANY IDEAS AND WORK AROUNDS YOU WOULD BE LOST IN THE DUST ... AS YOU APEAR TO BE TO ME ... HOW EVER I DO KNOW THIS IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE ...
;D
SO I DONT NEED MUCH POWER TO GENERATE QUITE A BIT OF POWER I KNOW WHAT I KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN .... ;)
LOL
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BUT I KINDA THINK THE DEEPER YOU GO THE BETTER THE RESULT ..
I WAS JUST A CONSTRUCTION WORKER ... SO I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE MORE SPECIALIZED INDAVIDUALS ROUND THIS SITE ... THINGS ALWAYS GO BETTER WHEN WE WORK AS A TEAM ..
LIKE I SAID IF THERE ARE SERIOUS INVESTORS OUT THERE .. I DO HAVE EVEN MORE WORK NOT YET EXPOSED PUBLIC TOO MUCH ... TO WORRIE ABOUT .. SO NONE THE LESS ... IM SURE PATTENDS CAN BE GRANTED TO SOME OF MY WORK .. THE MORE ADVANCED DIVICES .. ;D 8)
@ IST
I hear you...LOL..as far as investors....
Never a good thing....
It would be much better for the whole world if you could show us how the "NEO ZAP! TECK Breakthrough" can lead us to OU...
l8r
OK
BATTERY CHARGER ...
SUPER CAP FILL IT WITH THE APPLYED ENGERY IN THE VIDEO AS SHOWEN ... IT IS 19VDC 4 AMP ... THIS IS WHAT I USED ... AS A SUPPLY ..
DIODES 50 SUPERCAPS I SAY THIS AS IT REALLY DOSENT MATTER MUCH HOW MANY YOU PUT THERE .. OFF WHERE THE BULB IS TAPPED DID YOU SAY 500F EA... HUMMM 120VDC... CHARGE 10 12V DC FORKLIFT BATTERIES RUN YOUR HOUSE AT 60 HZ SINE FROM A DC INVERTOR ... CHARGE THE DEAD FORKLIFT BATTERIES ... AND THE JUST PUSH RIGHT ON THROUGH ... LOL
SIMPLE .. AS THAT...
IST
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 01, 2009, 03:09:24 PM
Amongst a million other pathetic posts, Ist once claimed that he could now make gold from lead. Then we have nitinnum who used to be an angel in a 5D existence and talks about the great pyramid fueling Altantean flying war-saucers from charged water... and you think this is acceptable or to be tolerated??
Is it your forum? As i know Sir Hartmann stands for free speech.
What if you creat a forum where you can make your own rules?
Or what is it what you want to reach?
Quote from: innovation_station on August 02, 2009, 02:43:01 AM
OK
BATTERY CHARGER ...
SUPER CAP FILL IT WITH THE APPLYED ENGERY IN THE VIDEO AS SHOWEN ... IT IS 19VDC 4 AMP ... THIS IS WHAT I USED ... AS A SUPPLY ..
DIODES 50 SUPERCAPS I SAY THIS AS IT REALLY DOSENT MATTER MUCH HOW MANY YOU PUT THERE .. OFF WHERE THE BULB IS TAPPED DID YOU SAY 500F EA... HUMMM 120VDC... CHARGE 10 12V DC FORKLIFT BATTERIES RUN YOUR HOUSE AT 60 HZ SINE FROM A DC INVERTOR ... CHARGE THE DEAD FORKLIFT BATTERIES ... AND THE JUST PUSH RIGHT ON THROUGH ... LOL
SIMPLE .. AS THAT...
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Can you show the "NEO ZAP! TECK Breakthrough" charging a battery with less input than output, I'm only asking because every test I've done shows an increase in battery voltage but when I try to use it it quickly dissipates as battery surface voltage, no offense to all on this site but I've yet to see proof positive of OU.
That said, I remain a hopeful skeptic, nothing ventured nothing gained.
And none of your potential investors were interested by your fully working SM TPU... or your claim of being able to turn lead into gold... how odd!
But back to the real world for a moment, it never ceases to amaze me just how many people actually think that 'Inexplicably STupid' is a valued member of this community. This all goes to emphasise the pitiful general level of intelligence and education on this forum... if not blatant ignorance!
He posts a few pictures of coils that are doing nothing, meaningless youtube videos and some blurry photos of a monitor screen and you guys think he is some kind of creative genius!! What is the matter with you people??
Never, and I mean NEVER, has IST backed up any of his claims with any real science, schematics or indeed relevant details - its just pretty pictures, pseudoscience and cryptic illiterate posts.
Of course you can prove me wrong IST and detail your lead to gold claim, or your SM working TPU, or your Tesla radiant Energy device... or for that matter any of your 100's of devices invented by you and your imaginary TeamIST. All of which you state you have mastered at one time or another.
In fact, fully disclose any working device with detailed measurements and a schematic that would allow others to replicate it and I'll never say another word against you. I for one would like to see your working SM TPU device.
I won't be holding my breath. ;)
QuoteWilliam is either a genius or has some problems.
lol, no kidding Pirate... and you're erring on the side of genius?! Get real for once.
Quote from: rensseak on August 02, 2009, 02:50:34 AM
Is it your forum? As i know Sir Hartmann stands for free speech.
What if you creat a forum where you can make your own rules?
Or what is it what you want to reach?
Aaa…sanity?
I don't think 'Sir Hartmann' stands for anything particularly. As long as there is a lot of traffic around here he seems quite happy.
Perhaps if this wasn't a 'science' based forum, but a science fiction and fantasy forum, then IST would not be so out of place and his continual gibberish wouldn't matter.
Free speech works both ways doesn't it.
Quoteare you so a sleep i need to explain led to gold lol
honestly you suck
lol
led to gold a simple procdure ... lol
i perpouslly do not use spell sheck just for your kind lol
think im jokeing ... well i know there many more than you can imagine know my words are so
more real than the illusion u live in .. lol
first lets ask what is the diffrence between led and gold ... i bet it aint much
and hey if i spoke to J H LOL he would know ...
but ill keep this to fund my work ....
since the fools dont want to fund me ...
ist
proof !!
look at all the old egyptian things made of gold ..... lol
WHAT YA THINK THEY MINED IT ..... LOL
take a bow ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CuYKSCqYng
put your rocks on and find your higher self it is called enlightenment and wow you will never feel better!!!
WHAT IS THE TESLA SHEILD ANYWAYS .... HUMMMMMM
i do have a few questions for this world tho ...
1 why does all this fall in my lap ... i have had no training in any of this i have little high schooling ..
2 why was i zapped at a young age on good friday thease are questions i had to ask my self
and i not so long ago got into spirtual reserch with the stones cuz i finnally realized that it was cuz of the garnets 5 lbs of huge size i have been working beside for the last 5 years .. then i further discover there full of dimonds ... ok so garnets ground you dimonds allow comprehenction ... and i have 1lb of nano quarts on my desk too ... so you tell me ....
i finished the reserch for the tesla sheild wich allowes teleportation ...also time less comm between 2 places .... hummmmm come on are you blind in one eye ?
will i am !
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Ahh, ISTs teleportation device. I rest my case, your honour.
led to gold depends upon your own interpertation ... of my words... lol
L E D to gold could simply mean flashlights for money .... lol
lol ;D
but really led to gold is only a shift of the frequency of the led ... ;D to the new freq of gold lol
if you find your self getting poor results .. something is not configured properly ..
FOR 1 YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE KICK.. FIRST .. THEN CONFIGURE YOUR SYSTEM TO RUN WITH GAIN ... IF YOU DO THIS YOU HAVE SOLVED IT ..
TO DO THIS YOU SIMPLY DO NOT USE THE HOT ENGERY APPLIED ONLY PASS IT THRUGH CATCH IT IN A CAP ... LOL TURN OFF THE UNIT .. THE KICK OR THE COLPASE IS FED INTO THE RECOVERY CAP THAT WILL HAVE THE SENT DRIVEING VOLTAGE.. ALREADY IN IT THE KICK RASES THE VOLTAGE IN THE CAP .. THIS IS RUNNING WITH GAIN IT IS PLAIN TO SEE AND FULLY UNDERSTAND AND I WAS ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS IN MY MIND HENCE WHY I NEVER HAD TO BUILD IT ...
BUT YOU DOZZIES PISSED ME OFF SO NOW IM A SERVEING IT TO YOU ... ;D 8)
IST!
I FIND IT FUNNY YOU ALL WANT TO TALK BOUT EVERYTHING BUT WHAT IS PRESENTED IN THIS THRED ... LOL
ITS OK ... I ACCEPT YOUR CHALLANGE .... SEE YOU YOURS AND RAISE YOU MINE ..... ;D
Shhh, quiet please... genius at work! :D
Quote from: Goat on August 02, 2009, 02:26:07 AM
@ IST
I hear you...LOL..as far as investors....
Never a good thing....
It would be much better for the whole world if you could show us how the "NEO ZAP! TECK Breakthrough" can lead us to OU...
l8r
yes i bet its back to digging ditches ... and moveing dirt around .... sheesh not agin .....
;D
no way i walked this path a time or 2 .... no sir not this time ..... ;D
the dirt i shall move will be in the minds of the souls that digg into this reserch... ;)
ist!
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 02, 2009, 05:13:06 AM
I don't think 'Sir Hartmann' stands for anything particularly. As long as there is a lot of traffic around here he seems quite happy.
Better you dont help to push up the trafic so that he will not so happy.
Quote
Perhaps if this wasn't a 'science' based forum, but a science fiction and fantasy forum, then IST would not be so out of place and his continual gibberish wouldn't matter.
Free speech works both ways doesn't it.
Oh there was allready science fiction and later it became reality.
QuoteOh there was allready science fiction and later it became reality.
By any chance did our resident genius IST, just teleport you in? :D
I guess asking for a little common sense around here is simply asking for too much, as it appears is expecting any sensible moderation.
There will come a time on this forum (and it seems it could be very near) when the only people left will be the uneducated, the ignorant and the complete and utter nutcases.
Lack of moderation has given dumb and dumber a free rein, and they're spreading their mindless nonsense like a plague.
How absolutely stupid must you yourself be to actually be taken in by the continual pseudoscience and nonsense posts of the likes of IST and nitinnum?
What a strange reality most of you people live in.
But IST says he up for my challenge. So, exactly what great secrets do you think he will unveil first? His Lead to gold (sorry, led to gold), his SM TPU, his Tesla radiant energy devices... or perhaps his teleporter... wow, you must all be so excited!!
Beam me up Scotty!
Then why waste your time here ?
Unless insulting the intelligence of others makes you feel superior.
If you have the temerity to insult people, you should have the balls to use your own name, instead of hiding behind a pseudonym.
Otherwise you are displaying cowardice, not intelligence.
You're worried about me insulting his intelligence, lol??
QuoteUnless insulting the intelligence of others makes you feel superior.
I guess you never thought this sentence through properly did you? Exactly what intelligence would that be then? lol, it would be easier to insult the intelligence of a termite.
I'm sorry Cap, are you actually saying that it's quite acceptable to post continual nonsense? That it is quite acceptable to fill up the forum with this kind of crap... to continually mislead the gullible and naive? To lie and bullshit... to make ridiculous claims that you are never, ever going to substantiate in any way or form?
I started a thread over on the TPU site, and this moron made a mockery of it with his nonsense continually clogging up the thread and disrupting discussion... it's what he does.
Are you so gullible, ignorant or plain old stupid that you can't see that IST contributes absolutely nothing but confusion. His posts are nothing but the gibberish of a drugged up or deranged mind? Where are you struggling with this?
As IST himself so eloquently put it, 'Are you blind in one eye?'
In many ways people like you Cap, are worse than IST himself, because you really should know better than to support or tolerate his posts. A person in your position should surely possess at least a modicum of common sense... but it appears that you do not.
The mentality of people around here is quite insane. Do you people simply accept what IST says? Lead to gold... teleportation? What does he have to say or do to convince you that he's completely bonkers?
Why is it such a problem when someone speaks up for a little common sense and sanity around here? Does everyone live in a little fantasy world bubble... and doesn't want it burst?
I've never come across such a bizarre and sorry bunch of gullible losers on any forum before... I'm all out of adjectives to describe you lot!
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 02, 2009, 05:11:15 PM
The mentality of people around here is quite insane. Does everyone live in a little fantasy world bubble... and doesn't want it burst?
I've never come across such a bizarre and sorry bunch of gullible losers on any forum before... I'm all out of adjectives to describe you lot!
And you are here because.....?
Bill
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 02, 2009, 05:11:15 PM
I've never come across such a bizarre and sorry bunch of gullible losers on any forum before... I'm all out of adjectives to describe you lot!
So for what you are still here, ah i know, to push up the trafic so that Sir Hartmann can be happy. :D :D :D :D
You are just a notorious whiners.
QuoteAnd you are here because.....?
Bill
lol, I'm not here Billy boy... I'm just a figment of your over-worked imagination!!
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 03, 2009, 03:44:02 PM
lol, I'm not here Billy boy... I'm just a figment of your over-worked imagination!!
HERE YA GO FARRAH.....
:)
WERNT YOU ASKING ABOUT A HEAT TEST TO ACCURATLY MESURE THE OUT PUT ...
I WAS ABLE TO MELT MY CARBON RODS FROM 16VDC 4 AMP
I MADE A VIDEO SO YOU CAN SEE MY SPARK ... ;D BET YOU COULD BUILD IT FOR 25 BUCKS ... ;) ;D
IST!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGv4gVRjRwE
Quote from: innovation_station on December 15, 2008, 10:31:44 AM
UPDATE! :)
this is VERRY REAL and i have had offers to devolop 1 mw units .... for a few countries.... around the globe.......
i have had other offers aswell that i have been asked not to post
JUST BUILD IT AND PERFECT IT!!!
IST
How are things going with getting the units perfected. If you have offers from other countries to develop the 1 milliwatt units, I think your search for investors would be over. I hope you have gotten further than just making sparks like you did back in January. Is there anything further to this that you could add.
I AM WORKING ON IT ...
I WAS ABLE TO BURN OUT 800V 3AMP DIODES ...
IM WORKING ON INCORPRATEING IT TO A RING ... WITH A PULSED ROTATING SUPPLY TO AVOID UNWANTED HEAT ..
IN MY LAST VIDEO I HAVE SOME VERRY HIGH FREQ SPARKS ...
IST
AND I GOT IT MUCH QUIETER AND TONNES OF POWER THERE ...
RED HOT CARBON ELECTRODE..
IST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkmlYe_NP7E
@Farrah Day
I think that many people found on this forum are so sick of being lied to by the science community,
that they no longer know what could be possible.
The money barons of the world will do just about anything to keep there income coming in.
It is simple, we on this forum don't trust anyone, anymore.
We feel it's our duty to humanity to question every claim made in the text books to see what's,
true and what's false, and we feel confident we will find many errors. (lies)
This is the source of real science which I feel the main stream of science has lost track of.
They worship there text books, weather they're correct or not, no one really knows.
It's a historical fact that Tesla was black balled by the scientific community over money, and
it would be total insanity to think the world has changed.
So who is really living in a fantasy world. You have no idea what is really going on in the world!
Or maybe you do, and that's really why your here?
AR, I am not the closed minded person that people seem to think I am, it's just simply quite obvious to me when we are dealing with someone with the mental age of around 5, and the IQ of a garden snail. I'm just baffled by why so many of you are being so naive and gullible.
QuoteI think that many people found on this forum are so sick of being lied to by the science community
Properly documented science, research and experiments - however unusual - are always of interest, but don't you think that you are just as likely to be lied to and bullshitted by the likes of IST? Isn't what he does worse?? Lead to Gold claims... teleportation... Come on, do you really think IST has any notion of what science is? How gullible can people be??? Anything is possible in ISTs world, it's a very strange place... but it's NOT real.
And it's not just IST and nitinnum. There's the guy who thinks that the Sun is sucking up the Earths gravity or some other such nonsense... and the religious nut that sees a spaceship and aliens when he looks at an old painting of people on a wooden ship!!
There must surely come a time when a little common sense above all else has to prevail if any kind of serious experimentation, research or indeed progress of any kind can be made. At the moment this place is full of looney tunes talking about crop circles, aliens, spaceships, pyramid power, fantasy and mythology. In
fact the very last thing on the agenda seems to be science of any kind.
The reason the Neo Zap! shows OU properties is based on well founded science.
A spark gap consumes matter from it's environment, converting it into electricity.
The principle has been studied for many years, it's called: "Magnetohydrodynamics" (MHD).
It's the direct conversion of matter into electric current.
That is why the Neo Magnets are needed to enhance the reaction.
The Neo Zap! is the simplest form of MHD generator.
When I studied electronics I was taught that when you charge a large inductor, then open the switch,
you have the potential for an infinite amount of current at the switch contacts.
This principle is what IST is proving with the Neo Zap!
I believe this is the principle that powers our sun's photosphere as well.
The heat of the sun heats matter at it's surface to the point of a plasma.
Then as the plasma forms above the surface of the sun, electromagnetic radiation from our galaxy,
is absorbed by the plasma which acts as a cosmic antenna.
Thus the plasma is heated to millions of degrees.
This is proven by the fact that the surface of the sun is measured at less then 7,000 degrees,
but the photosphere above the sun is measured at 16 million degrees.
Obviously the energy of the photosphere isn't coming from the sun.
Posted by Harold Walter Lehmann of Sarnia, ON. Canada, on Aug. 25, 2009.
Thought I should add that in case I'm the first to state this theory.
dear farrah day
i would imagine that if you were to meet Tesla with all his eccentricities that you would judge him nuts as well and yet all that you enjoy in this life is a result of his efforts barring some rare exceptions we would still wash clothes by hand and have the horse to tend to.
with out the dreamers there is no tommorrow,
personally i would rather live in there world and fail 10,000 times for each success loose my shirt than to live in your world where nothing ever happens but the wind blows if you really feel that all of us here are so crazy you don't have to come here but it is your psych that draws you so sit back and observe but don,t point fingers at those who want to see if there is something more to the world.
Martin
Those who do, get a lot of credibility with me, those who don't, don't.
Bill
Funny you should say that Billy Boy
Educated people using a bit of the old grey matter, talking science (however unconventional) and common sense, are those I give most credibility to...
Idiots like IST and the rest of the Looney Tune Brigade that blindly follow this nonsense... are clearly the least credible.
Problem is you really need a fully functioning brain and an iota of common sense to determine the difference... something sadly lacking around here.
PS. Martin, you're clearly a very confused or misguided individual if you think that IST is potentially another Tesla. You can't for the briefest moment compare Tesla to the likes of IST... and if you are doing so you've got serious issues. If Tesla had been IST, we still probably would be washing our clothes in the river and tending our horses.
The trouble around here is that so many of you are clearly lacking even the most basic education that anything any given nut case says is ok by you all. You all support each other and so encourage more nonsense.
lol. It's Dumb and Dumber meets Mister Dumb, winner of last years 'Dumbest Person in Dumbville' competition! The absolute and utter stupidity around here really does stretch the imagination of any sane person.
obviously this is the problem with this world the gulf between us is to wide to cross.
you want things in a neat package all conformity and IST wants out.
my grandson was smarter than us all because he understood that IST will find a way out and you will find a way to close the door.
i have seen it a hundred times but i would put my money on IST because he will keep trying and you will find a way to say it can't be done.
Martin
Why do you people always twist things?
I have never said anything can't be done... and I've never intimated I wanted anything in a nice neat package, and it has nothing at all to do with conformity. I have no problem at all with new science and technology or breaking into new frontiers of science... but I've said this all before. You people seem to see only what you want to see.
I've just basically said that if you're relying on a retard like IST to change the world you might have quite a long wait... and if you're putting you're money on him... well, good luck with that. If you are prepared to put your faith and money on IST and gullible enough to be drawn in by his gibberish, following his every nonsense post without question... then good luck with that too... personally I think you need your head looking at.
If you and your grandson have so much faith in IST... I ask you why? The guy is illiterate for Pete's sake! Do you really believe his claim of having a fully working TPU? Being able to turn lead into gold? Having a teleporter? And of course having so-called investors hammering at his door? Do you? Really? You either believe these claims or you don't... common sense and logic dictates that IST has either built a working teleporter... or he's full of shit! Simple. So which is it?
Do you really believe this crap? I guess you must do otherwise you wouldn't be such an ardent supporter of this joker. You're living in IST's dreamworld - he thrives on people like you to give him credibility while he pisses about with bits of wire and a few magnets, making wild and meaningless claims. He has never proffered anything useful on this forum... Ever. You find me one post where he has substantiated any of his wild claims with any detailed results, measurements, schematics, etc. Go on, find just one post!
What is wrong with you people? Why don't you wake up? Are you asleep or simply insane?
Common sense and education is the primary gulf between us, and I don't see that gulf reducing at any time in the near future.
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 26, 2009, 07:13:27 PM
Common sense and education is the primary gulf between us, and I don't see that gulf reducing at any time in the near future.
I agree. When you get some common sense and a decent education, come on back and we will talk. 'Till then, you are wasting our time. Nice of you to admit it.
Bill
farraday ...
:P
did i figure out something faster than yourself ..and your pissed off or something ...
i can not justify your rude words ...
kid-o....
:D
ist!
btw you can stop putting words in my mouth ..
Inexplicably STupid, you are an illiterate moron, but I'm curious; do you pay these people to support your meaningless gibberish... or are they simply every bit as raving mad as you are?
Any sane moderator would have put an end to all your pointless bullshit years ago.
The average IQ of this forum continues to plummet to ever greater depths... and no one gives a shit!
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 27, 2009, 06:33:22 AM
Inexplicably STupid, you are an illiterate moron, but I'm curious; do you pay these people to support your meaningless gibberish... or are they simply every bit as raving mad as you are?
Any sane moderator would have put an end to all your pointless bullshit years ago.
The average IQ of this forum continues to plummet to ever greater depths... and no one gives a shit!
i dont feel like telling you off right now farraday ... but to be honest im getting SICK OF YOUR CRAP TALK ...
SOON ENOUGH I WILL PLAY YOUR GAME
BUT I WANT TO KNOW HAVE YOU DONE MY HEAT TEST ... LOL
25 BUCKS... AND A BIG MOUTH LIKE YOURS should have come to a conclusion by now ....
just wate till i post some pictures of my new shop ... ;D
none the less my WORDS REMAIN THE SAME ... ;D
AND IM FULLY CONFIDENT IM NOT AS WRONG AS YOU SEEM TO THINK I AM ...
:P
W
btw i have paid no one to support me ... perhaps my work says enough ... :D
@Farrah Day
Quote:
"Inexplicably STupid, you are an illiterate moron, but I'm curious; do you pay these people to support your meaningless gibberish... or are they simply every bit as raving mad as you are?"
If you actually knew IST you would think very differently, in all my travels talking to very competent educated people IST is one of a few people I would consider to be truely creative. That is, to come to an understanding of abstract things few if any ever fully consider outside of their textbook education. In truth I would trade one thousand of You for one of Him any day of the week.
AC
IST though you said you would, I see you never rose to the challenge I set you in detailing any of your so-called breakthroughs - Lead to Gold, Working TPU, Teleporter, etc, etc, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit... I wonder why? Yawn, ZZZ-Zzzzzz
Just to be clear on this IST, the only people you are fooling are the fools - and this forum abounds with fools now.
It must actually make you feel good knowing that there are people around here with less education than you have, more stupid than you are and gullible enough to hang on your every meaningless word.
Ah, here's another one that's followed the giant white rabbit into Wonderland. Another sad, deluded and uneducated plonker to join the fold.
QuoteIf you actually knew IST you would think very differently, in all my travels talking to very competent educated people IST is one of a few people I would consider to be truely creative. That is, to come to an understanding of abstract things few if any ever fully consider outside of their textbook education. In truth I would trade one thousand of You for one of Him any day of the week.
AC
WELCOME TO WONDERLAND AC - MEET THE MADHATTER!
alice (she was on lsd)
white rabbit (speed baller)
mad hatter (meth head)
the cat (oxy cotton sniffer)
the caterpillar (pot head)
you are which one you said..
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 27, 2009, 07:13:31 PM
Lead to Gold
Hi Farrah.
I believe it is Mercury not Lead:
Isotope 197Hg(Mercury) wt(196.967195) (decay 2.672 days) EC(Electron Capture) to 197Au(Stable Gold), other isotope transitions of Mercury can also be decayed to Gold but the Gold is Radioactive, we would want Stable Gold.
we have to hurry up because we only have 2.6 days to convert it said the white rabbit.
there are no Lead Isotopes that decay to Gold.
Jerry ;)
thanks AC
and farra.... your a joke ...
lead to gold ... i already told you fool ....
talk to JH since i said this in the past he has made an apearance on ou ... no i never talked to him yet ...
i dont care for lead to gold ... it is A SHIFT FROM 1 MATERIAL TO ANOTHER ...
enough on this shit.... you like the idea sooo much faraday ... why dont you try it ...
or TRY to figure it out ... :P
my work is not for the ones that can not understand it and contiunally MOCK ME ..
so enjoy ... its all reality in my HANDS .. how bout yours farr....... bla bla ... i cant even be bothered to finish spelling your name ....
you REMIND ME OF THE BUZZ.... :D
IST!
Quoteenough on this shit.... you like the idea sooo much faraday ... why dont you try it ...
You're the one who claimed you'd found out how to do it you silly jerk-off!
3526 posts of mindless garbage - speak to Hartmann, perhaps you can claim something similar to air miles! Perhaps he'll send you a free dictionary... a dunce cap... or maybe even a discount voucher for psychiatric help? You surely need some form of help. Though personally I'd have you locked up and be done with it.
to farraday
perhaps you should take a look
http://www.drjoechampion.com/
http://www.houstonpress.com/1994-04-07/news/aggie-alchemy/full
http://paulapeterson.com/Dr_Joe_Champion.html
to this farmers have known for a long time that growing certain crops puts minerals in the soil that were not originally present so guess that was were the alchemy comes from.
cold fussion has many examples as well.
guess god left you out in the planning.
Martin
just because i cant doesn't mean it is not possible some day it may be understood !
I think you're missing the point here Martin.
IST claimed he could turn Lead into Gold
IST claims he has a working TPU
IST claims he made a teleporter
...and frankly anything else you care to think of, IST will somewhere have claimed to have fully understood the technology, designed and built it, and have it sitting on a shelf while he waits on the investors.
Of course if you choose to be gullible enough to believe all these claims then that's up to you, but it does nothing for your credibility as a supposed intelligent lifeform.
Quoteguess god left you out in the planning.
No actually, I left God(and or gods) out of my planning. I was lucky enough not to be brainwashed by religion when I was young and susceptible.
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 28, 2009, 06:38:25 PM
I think you're missing the point here Martin.
IST claimed he could turn Lead into Gold RETARD PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH
IST claims he has a working TPU RETARD PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH
IST claims he made a teleporter AGIN IMAGINE .... RETARD PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH
...and frankly anything else you care to think of, IST will somewhere have claimed to have fully understood the technology, designed and built it, and have it sitting on a shelf while he waits on the investors.
Of course if you choose to be gullible enough to believe all these claims then that's up to you, but it does nothing for your credibility as a supposed intelligent lifeform.
No actually, I left God(and or gods) out of my planning. I was lucky enough not to be brainwashed by religion when I was young and susceptible.
yea dick head i also claim your a retard ...
stupid as shit ...
and too bad you never caught a clue ...
AND YOU FEEL YOU MUST BAD MOUTH ME ... LOL
CUZ YOU WILL GAIN NO PATTENDS ... CUZ IT AINT YOUR WORK ..... DICK ...
BUZZ OFF
WILLIAM !!
IF YOU HAD A CLUE ..... YOU WOULD KNOW I GOT ER ALL TIED UP ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quoteyea dick head i also claim your a retard ...
lol. Yet another wild and unsubstantiated claim from moron of the century.
If I had a tenner for every claim you made, well... I'd be rich!
Quoteyea dick head i also claim your a retard ...
stupid as shit ...
and too bad you never caught a clue ...
AND YOU FEEL YOU MUST BAD MOUTH ME ... LOL
CUZ YOU WILL GAIN NO PATTENDS ... CUZ IT AINT YOUR WORK ..... DICK ...
BUZZ OFF
WILLIAM !!
IF YOU HAD A CLUE ..... YOU WOULD KNOW I GOT ER ALL TIED UP
Incomprehenable rantings of an illiterate mad man in a make-believe world... as per usual.
I rest my case your honour.
Oh, I see you're now making yet another claim, lol. You're now claiming that you never made any of those claims in the first place, right... would you like me to quote the various posts to jog your memory? You hopeless retard.
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 29, 2009, 07:53:03 AM
lol. Yet another wild and unsubstantiated claim from moron of the century.
If I had a tenner for every claim you made, well... I'd be rich!
Incomprehenable rantings of an illiterate mad man in a make-believe world... as per usual.
I rest my case your honour.
Oh, I see you're now making yet another claim, lol. You're now claiming that you never made any of those claims in the first place, right... would you like me to quote the various posts to jog your memory? You hopeless retard.
it's not a wild or unsubstantiated claim... you admitted to not even being able to assemble a working SEC which is ONLY 15 components. ist has no such issues with simple circuits like you do. ::)
it's 'incomprehensible'. and you're calling others retarded...
Wilby!
I wondered when you would show up to add your own inimitable nonsense into the fray.
Like Capro, you're worse than IST himself. At least IST has the excuse that he is illiterate and uneducated. You seem to simply choose to be an idiot - how pathetic is that?
how does that address the fact that you can't manage to assemble a working 15 component circuit? a circuit the guy you are calling retarded has no problem building. or the fact that you can't even correctly spell those big words you try to use?
you can call it nonsense, but those are your own words that you are dangling from...
you can't spell, you can't assemble a simple circuit... that's the pot calling the kettle black. ::)
farra..
i did not claim i have made lead to gold ... sure i can FULLY EXPLAIN HOW I WOULD APROCH DOING ... IT ...
NO PROBLEM... ;D
i do not claim i HAVE A TRUE SM TPU ... BUILT AND RUNNING ... ;D
AND I NEVER ONCED CLAIMED I BUILT A TELEPORTOR ... :D
I CLAIM I CAN FULLY EXPLAIN MY WAY OF ATTEMPTING TO BUILD A TELEPORTOR AND HOW IT WOULD WORK AND OPERATE IN MY MIND THUSS FAR ... altho i laque much the high end electronics skills required to build such a device ... 8)
TIME TRAVEL I CLAIM THIS ...... I SEE NO REASON IT CAN NOT WORK. :P :P :P :P
AND MY LAST CLAIMS TOWARD YOU.......
you have proven true all on your own ...
can i call you jojo the clown .... ;)
ist!
I see IST, so you haven't actually built anything that works have you... it's all in your head... you simply think things will work if you bothered to build them.
Ohh, that's OK then. But perhaps you'd better let your potential investors know... just in case they got the wrong idea like I did.
Quoteare you so a sleep i need to explain led to gold lol
honestly you suck
lol
led to gold a simple procdure ... lol
i perpouslly do not use spell sheck just for your kind lol
think im jokeing ... well i know there many more than you can imagine know my words are so
more real than the illusion u live in .. lol
first lets ask what is the diffrence between led and gold ... i bet it aint much
and hey if i spoke to J H LOL he would know ...
but ill keep this to fund my work ....
since the fools dont want to fund me ...
ist
proof !!
look at all the old egyptian things made of gold ..... lol
WHAT YA THINK THEY MINED IT ..... LOL
take a bow ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CuYKSCqYng
put your rocks on and find your higher self it is called enlightenment and wow you will never feel better!!!
WHAT IS THE TESLA SHEILD ANYWAYS .... HUMMMMMM
i do have a few questions for this world tho ...
1 why does all this fall in my lap ... i have had no training in any of this i have little high schooling ..
2 why was i zapped at a young age on good friday thease are questions i had to ask my self
and i not so long ago got into spirtual reserch with the stones cuz i finnally realized that it was cuz of the garnets 5 lbs of huge size i have been working beside for the last 5 years .. then i further discover there full of dimonds ... ok so garnets ground you dimonds allow comprehenction ... and i have 1lb of nano quarts on my desk too ... so you tell me ....
i finished the reserch for the tesla sheild wich allowes teleportation ...also time less comm between 2 places .... hummmmm come on are you blind in one eye ?
will i am !
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Will i am? Yes u are... sorry what was the question?
When you have trouble writing your own name, there is a real problem somewhere.
Wilby credits you with having a working SEC, but you don't have a working SEC do you?
Quotehow does that address the fact that you can't manage to assemble a working 15 component circuit? a circuit the guy you are calling retarded has no problem building
You're really only showing the level of your ignorance with these kind of statements Wilby. If you knew anything about the SEC you would realise that Stiffler could only get it to work using one specific type of transistor and most brands of the exact same transistor would not work. In fact if you knew anything at all about Stiffler's SEC, you would know just how difficult it is to get it to work at all. Stiffler himself has had whole batches of the specific transistor that would not work, so 15 components or not, the cct is very temperamental.
But why am I even attempting to justify myself with a jerk-off like you - you're not worth the effort.
Besides, I know you, Wilby. You don't really give a damn about IST or anyone else, or about the science - you just like an argument. You bring nothing to the forum, you simply thrive on playing with words, pointlessly digging up and twisting things - anything in order to force an argument. How sad you are.
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 29, 2009, 10:07:02 AM
I see IST, so you haven't actually built anything that works have you... it's all in your head... you simply think things will work if you bothered to build them.
Ohh, that's OK then. But perhaps you'd better let your potential investors know... just in case they got the wrong idea like I did.
Will i am? Yes u are... sorry what was the question?
When you have trouble writing your own name, there is a real problem somewhere.
Wilby credits you with having a working SEC, but you don't have a working SEC do you?
You're really only showing the level of your ignorance with these kind of statements Wilby. If you knew anything about the SEC you would realise that Stiffler could only get it to work using one specific type of transistor and most brands of the exact same transistor would not work. In fact if you knew anything at all about Stiffler's SEC, you would know just how difficult it is to get it to work at all. Stiffler himself has had whole batches of the specific transistor that would not work, so 15 components or not, the cct is very temperamental.
But why am I even attempting to justify myself with a jerk-off like you - you're not worth the effort.
Besides, I know you, Wilby. You don't really give a damn about IST or anyone else, or about the science - you just like an argument. You bring nothing to the forum, you simply thrive on playing with words, pointlessly digging up and twisting things - anything in order to force an argument. How sad you are.
i like how you quoted but didn't answer the pointed question that has been posed to you, i'll ask it again at the end of this response.
i never credited ist with having a working SEC, i said he would have no trouble building one... there you go making up patently false statements again. another unsubstantiated claim from the moron of the century. ::)
wrong again. i have a couple, one is an original from stiffler, the rest i built. thus, i know how easy they are to get working as long as one simply follows directions. if YOU knew anything about stiffler's work you would know it has been done with different transistors, albeit the doc recommends using the specified transistor. and you still can't seem to get one working, LOL.
you don't know me or what i give a damn about... it's asinine for you to even suggest you do. as far as not bringing anything to the forum, you are again posting false information as usual. furthermore, how does any of what you said address the fact that you can't manage to assemble a working SEC?
@FD
It is time for you to cease and desist. Otherwise you will be banned from this forum for good. When will you get it through your thick skull that all your naggy naggy crap is getting to be really sick. The only one that is mentally unstable here is you with your continuous freelancing of insults. I won't warn you again. There is a limit and you have broken the ruler at too many places already.
If you don't like @IST, that is your problem, not ours, and we don't intend on you making it our problem. You are just wasting precious bandwidth, time and orientations, so just cut it out.
thank you Wattsup
my sentiment as well
Martin
What's up, Wattsup?
Are you yet another member of this forum that supports the likes of ISTs continuous mindless and childish nonsense posts? All 3500+ of them!
What this place needs is moderators that give a damn, not Muppets like you that give credence to the rantings of the mentally unstable.
I'll save you the bother of banning me - too many dick-heads with single figure IQs around here for my liking now anyway.
You misfits can all be pointlessly stupid together now, while the general IQ level on the forum plummets further still.
@FD
Nice insult number 7622. lol
It is now more then evident that you are suffering from some type of superiority complex stemming from years and years of obvious mental abuse and now you are on a continuous attack mode. Typically evident in that everyone else is a retard except you. Wow you. You are so smart, even IQ tests shudder thinking they are not good enough for you.
But we are not mental health specialists and cannot help you or hold your little hand while you overcome this handicap. We are just too busy.
So...........................................
Great. Good-bye and good riddance.
@ wattsup:
This will be like the 5th time this fellow has been banned under different names. (AKA Thebuzz)
Bill
Farrah Day tells the truth.
IST talks poop most of the time.
Are you people that simple or plain stupid to see that?
If you ban Farrah Day , ban me as well because I have had enough of this nonsense.
Yet another incarnation of the Buzz. This is getting real old now. It is so easy to trace.
Really. Proxy servers are not difficult either. Oh no.
Bill
Quote from: Pirate88179 on August 30, 2009, 02:36:00 AM
Yet another incarnation of the Buzz. This is getting real old now. It is so easy to trace.
Really.
Bill
Bill are you getting old or are you getting stupid!
I am not BUZZ!!!
BUT, I am getting sick of the IST nonsense!
When Wattsup wants to ban me,...then fine,..I don't give a poop anymore.
I wish though that Harti would look at what IST has done and said and then give his dog Wattsup orders instead of Wattsup doing banning on his own.
Wattsup can't be trusted with that power.
just stop the crap ... i give no ordors .. wattsup is a verry smart person ... im just guessing he has gone beond me ...
and fyi i talk to verry few out side my public posts .. so stop speculating ...
and build the damm thing ..
then you will know ... ;)
call it a tip...
ist!
but farra .. has been quite rude for NO REASON ... other than he choose to be ..
Quote from: innovation_station on August 30, 2009, 03:33:58 AM
just stop the crap ... i give no ordors .. wattsup is a verry smart person ... im just guessing he has gone beond me ...
and fyi i talk to verry few out side my public posts .. so stop speculating ...
and build the damm thing ..
then you will know ... ;)
call it a tip...
ist!
but farra .. has been quite rude for NO REASON ... other than he choose to be ..
IST,
"farra" speaks the truth if you like it or not.
I like the fact that you are building real things, I admire you for that.
But please don't claim you have OU when you haven't.
Just be more honest.
You are not a bad person.
Be more modest please.
You're wasting your time Tink.
Anyone who speaks up for a little sanity around here is immediately assumed to be one and the same person. Funny how they never assume this to be so in the case of the nonsense posters.
They've called me 'Buzz', amongst other names for months, even though I've been a member for years now.
Makes you smile really, as if they did actually check ISP's they'd know this not to be the case.
I think Pirate claims to be a P.I. Though I guess P.I. could stand for Pissing Idiot!
We're just conversing with a bunch or arseholes here, with intelligence barely above that of your everyday single-celled organism.
Quote from: Tink on August 30, 2009, 03:43:00 AM
IST,
"farra" speaks the truth if you like it or not.
I like the fact that you are building real things, I admire you for that.
But please don't claim you have OU when you haven't.
Just be more honest.
You are not a bad person.
Be more modest please.
ok no worries ...
when you come to the true conclusion as i have done ... you will see the reality here .. ;)
the fact that i arrive at more voltage ... in its self is OVERUNITY .....
THE WAY I ARRIVE AT IT AND I HAVE A NUMBER OF WAYS TO ACHIVE MORE ENGERY THAN APPLYED TO THE DEVICES .. IS ALSO MY WAY OF DOING IT ...
THE FACT YOU CALL THIS OVERUNITY IS A MISSUNDERSTANDING ON YOUR PART ....
the reality here is this is a natural event ...
and i have UNCOVERED THE KEY TO IT ...
THIS IS SIMPLE .... THERE IS NOTHING HARD ABOUT IT ....
SO LETS SAY I APPLY 1.5 V AND WHEN I TURN IT OFF I AM RETURNED MORE ... WHO CARES HOW MUCH MORE IT IS .....
IT IS THE FACT THAT IT IS MORE THAN APPLYED TO IT ... THIS IN ITS SELF IS THE TRUTH OF ALL FREE ENGERY DEVICES USEING ELECTRO MAGNETICS ...
I can go on and on .... but why ... i already have ...
AND I FAIL TO BE PROVEN WRONG ... AS OF YET!!
WILLIAM
Quote from: Farrah Day on August 30, 2009, 06:04:56 AM
You're wasting your time Tink.
Anyone who speaks up for a little sanity around here is immediately assumed to be one and the same person. Funny how they never assume this to be so in the case of the nonsense posters.
They've called me 'Buzz', amongst other names for months, even though I've been a member for years now.
Makes you smile really, as if they did actually check ISP's they'd know this not to be the case.
I think Pirate claims to be a P.I. Though I guess P.I. could stand for Pissing Idiot!
We're just conversing with a bunch or arseholes here, with intelligence barely above that of your everyday single-celled organism.
Why don't you go copulate yourself? Oh wait, I guess you are too ugly for even you to do that. A shame really. Just because your idiot blind wife is an attorney is no reason for you to be bashing folks on the internet. Buzz.
Bill
Quote from: innovation_station on August 30, 2009, 09:21:18 AM
ok no worries ...
when you come to the true conclusion as i have done ... you will see the reality here .. ;)
the fact that i arrive at more voltage ... in its self is OVERUNITY .....
THE WAY I ARRIVE AT IT AND I HAVE A NUMBER OF WAYS TO ACHIVE MORE ENGERY THAN APPLYED TO THE DEVICES .. IS ALSO MY WAY OF DOING IT ...
THE FACT YOU CALL THIS OVERUNITY IS A MISSUNDERSTANDING ON YOUR PART ....
the reality here is this is a natural event ...
and i have UNCOVERED THE KEY TO IT ...
THIS IS SIMPLE .... THERE IS NOTHING HARD ABOUT IT ....
SO LETS SAY I APPLY 1.5 V AND WHEN I TURN IT OFF I AM RETURNED MORE ... WHO CARES HOW MUCH MORE IT IS .....
IT IS THE FACT THAT IT IS MORE THAN APPLYED TO IT ...
THIS IN ITS SELF IS THE TRUTH OF ALL FREE ENGERY DEVICES USEING ELECTRO MAGNETICS ...
I can go on and on .... but why ... i already have ...
AND I FAIL TO BE PROVEN WRONG ... AS OF YET!!
WILLIAM
This is exactly the type of statements that FD and Tink are talking about. You are claiming that you are doing it. That's great but, where is the proof? I am not talking about youtube videos or pictures, I'm talking about actual power in / power out measurements.
You say that " I FAIL TO BE PROVEN WRONG" but you haven't supplied anything to prove either way. Where are the schematics, drawings, readings so people can replicate to prove you right?
DOES A JOULE THEIF WORK ?
WHY DOES A JT WORK ?
HOW DOES A JT WORK ... ?
DOES MY MOT UNIT CHARGE CAPS ?
DOES MY NEO ZAP UNIT LIGHT LIGHT BULBS ..?
DO I MELT CARBON RODS ?
BLA BLA BLA ..
SAME OLD KICK...
IST!
Quote from: innovation_station on August 31, 2009, 07:49:51 AM
DOES A JOULE THEIF WORK ?
WHY DOES A JT WORK ?
HOW DOES A JT WORK ... ?
DOES MY MOT UNIT CHARGE CAPS ?
DOES MY NEO ZAP UNIT LIGHT LIGHT BULBS ..?
DO I MELT CARBON RODS ?
BLA BLA BLA ..
SAME OLD KICK...
IST!
1. Yes
2. BEMF
3. BEMF
4. Yes, BEMF using an induction coil. BTW an earth battery can do it without input.
5. Didn't see it but yeah it probably did using BEMF.
6. BEMF is amazing isn't it.
7. Exactly
8. Same old BEMF. It is not called kick.
at least you learned something mr mag.... lol
but CALL IT WHAT IT IS HEMF ...
DUH!!
LOL
and it is so the kick prove it is not !! :D :P ;D
it has nothing to do with the core material ....
:P
and YES THIS IS INFACT TESLAS KICK... DUH!!
IST!
Quote from: innovation_station on August 31, 2009, 03:31:28 PM
at least you learned something mr mag.... lol
but CALL IT WHAT IT IS HEMF ...
DUH!!
LOL
and it is so the kick prove it is not !! :D :P ;D
it has nothing to do with the core material ....
:P
and YES THIS IS INFACT TESLAS KICK... DUH!!
IST!
I guess my electrical engineering background and 30 some years in electronics has made me finally figure out how a joule thief works, right.
It is BEMF. If you knew anything, you would at least know this.
Why do you always say prove it is not? To even make this statement you need to prove that it is first. Idiot.
MrMag,
We are waisting energy, I think that somehow lST means well but he is very confused.
Nothing to see or learn here, lets move on.
Thank the powers that be for backemf. Without it a change in a magnetic field would create an infinite amount of current. I see the magnetic field as more of an inertial field storing the energy transfer information. It allows us to take a very small amount of input for whatever amount of time and bring it up to very usable power levels. If we store one watt of power aligning magnetic moments in a ferrous material for an hour and let them roll back into alignment with the ambient magnetic field in a nanosecond it gets interesting. Not really overunity or anything just condensation of energy into a field of interest. Like a bow and arrow or a hammer blow. Gets alot of effect.
@Mr.Mag
QuoteI guess my electrical engineering background and 30 some years in electronics has made me finally figure out how a joule thief works, right.
It is BEMF. If you knew anything, you would at least know this.
Why do you always say prove it is not? To even make this statement you need to prove that it is first.
The wiki definition of Bemf or Cemf
QuoteThe counter-electromotive force (abbreviated counter emf, or CEMF ) [1] is the voltage, or electromotive force, that pushes against the current which induces it. CEMF is caused by a changing electromagnetic field. It is represented by Lenz's Law of electromagnetism. Back electromotive force is a voltage that occurs in electric motors where there is relative motion between the armature of the motor and the external magnetic field.
What many refer to as a "kick" is in fact an inductive discharge, it is not Bemf nor Cemf. As well Lenz law does not apply to an inductive discharge because a true inductive discharge does not follow the standard transformer turns ratio-- it also produces a substantial voltage rise when meeting any resistance. If you are an engineer then perhaps you can tell me how Tesla produced a 10,000 volt rise per inch of conductor in his open helical coils? Has anyone here actually read any of Tesla's patents or literature? ---besides IST.
@Tink
You have more to learn than you could possibly fathom ;)
Regards
AC
In a dc motor with a permanent magnet field the armature generates back emf and the speed of the armature is limited by the back emf. Now if you have a wound field and it is series connected to the armature in what they call a Universal motor very popular in portable power tools and vacuum cleaner motors etc. the back emf weakens the field current which weakens the backemf and the armature now has no limit to how fast it can go short of the applied voltage and mechanical limitations. So if we take an armature with no field winding it will accelerate until the ambient magnetic field causes some backemf to be developed. Theoretically the armature could be acclerated to very high rpm's with a very small amount of current. After converting the input energy into angular momentum of the armature the load is coupled and the energy is shed into the load. The millivolt supply then reaccelerates the uncoupled armature and the cycle is repeated. This is just another example of taking a very low bias input and causing a higher power output. A one volt drop across the anode and cathode in a picture tube results in very little electron acceleration. Your electron gun is more like an electron drip. Now we increase the voltage to 36kv and the electron gun fires. How many amps does it take to produce 36,000 volts. Not a whole hell of a lot if we collapse the magnetic field around a coil FAST. We distort the magnetic field and this will take energy then we shut off the switch fast as we can and the aether gives us the voltage as it returns the magnetic field to status quo. This does not happen pumping a sinewave into a laminated transformer core. The sinewave is like pulling back on an arrow then returning the arrow back to it's start position using energy both ways. If the power companies would reinvest in distributing something besides 60hz alternating current say something like sawtooth dc they could get away with 10 percent of the power they are using now.
i would like to thank allcanadian and sparks for clearing up the language about BEMF as it is only in motors but CEMF has not yet really been explained well enough for proper use here Tesla used the terms BEMF and CEMF but said this phenomena was more like water hammer this definitely denotes a difference which should be better clarified for those reading
i was though that cemf is when two inductors are wound in such a way as to work in opposition to maintain a steady dc removing any ac fluctuation were the fields either counter or aid the drop or rise of steady current flow.
again thank you for the help
Martin
Quote from: nueview on September 01, 2009, 02:15:49 PM
i would like to thank allcanadian and sparks for clearing up the language about BEMF as it is only in motors but CEMF has not yet really been explained well enough for proper use here Tesla used the terms BEMF and CEMF but said this phenomena was more like water hammer this definitely denotes a difference which should be better clarified for those reading
i was though that cemf is when two inductors are wound in such a way as to work in opposition to maintain a steady dc removing any ac fluctuation were the fields either counter or aid the drop or rise of steady current flow.
again thank you for the help
Martin
i still think hemf .. is the proper title .. and this means magnetic colapse from ANY COIL ... ;)
and it stands for high electro motive force ..
this will happen with or with out a core material.. it is WATER HAMMER ....
it is bedini .. and all the rest ... cut the flow you get
HIGH ELECTROMOTIVE FORCE SUTIABLE TO CHARGE ALMOST ANY VALUE CAP ... IST!
Tesla would take his high voltage and cut it off real fast. His emp would then cause electormagnetic shockwaves to enter a resonant cavity where it would ring down or echo the event for extended periods of time. He ingeniously devised ways to couple to the resonant structure in a manner that would not damp the oscillations. From one hemf event he would run motors or translatory devices that shunted the lc tanks. Sometimes he would use a transformer primary as the inductance in an intermediate tank to get higher voltage at the same frequency. Higher amplitude same frequency sounds like a system running with gain to me. How many stages can you go before your voltage exceeds any known insulators on Earth and you start to ionze air and man-made lightning insues. Now where did all this energy come from. When you convert inertia into kinetic energy. The little particles we call atoms got energy storedup in em. They are going at least 60,000 miles an hour relative to the Sun never mind how fast they are really goinng relative to the aether cause the whole solar system is going probably millions of miles an hour and the galaxies have been accelerating for a few billion years so how fast are they going. Atom aint got much mass but when they hit a brick wall that is created in the aether they do convert inertia into kinetic energy.
Quotei would like to thank allcanadian and sparks for clearing up the language about BEMF as it is only in motors but CEMF has not yet really been explained well enough for proper use here
This was covered over on the TPU thread. CEMF and BEMF are two different terms for the same thing. In the UK we generally use the term BEMF, the states use the term CEMF. Just as here in the UK we say anti-clockwise, in the states they say counter-clockwise. Do not be confused by the two different terms for exactly the same phenomenon: CEMF = BEMF
And before anyone pipes up, the Wikipedia definition is wrong and so quite misleading.
The so-called inductive kick however may be something altogether different.
I have no clue as to what ISTs HEMF is... probably something that is indigenous to IST's fantasy world!
Oh just found it:
Quoteand it stands for high electro motive force ..
Yes, I was right, it is something indigenous to IST's fantasy world.
ok farra i HAD ENOUGH
...
IM GONNA SHOVE TESLAS OWN WORDS UP YOUR NOSE ...
WAKE UP FOOL ...
YOU LIVE IN THE FANTICY WORLD OF LIES!!!
I CHOOSE THE TRUTH ...
IST
*thought all inventors celebrated a Eureka with a Hemf five*
IST,
My 1.5 VDC AA battery could be explained that it has LEMF (low EMF). I also have a 100VDC Battery which supplies what could be called HEMF (high EMF).
Now, if I hook up my HEMF battery to a coil, I would be charging the coil with HEMF. When I remove the battery, it sends EMF BACK. This is why it is called Back EMF or Counter EMF. High EMF just means a high voltage. Tesla was a very smart man but do you think maybe he just left out the word "counter" or "back". I think he figured out that most people would know what he was talking about, but I guess he might have been mistaken.
You should read his word as " a counter EMF of high amplitude" or something like that.
You shouldn't argue about things you don't understand.
Quote from: allcanadian on August 31, 2009, 11:35:59 PM
@Mr.Mag
The wiki definition of Bemf or Cemf
What many refer to as a "kick" is in fact an inductive discharge, it is not Bemf nor Cemf. As well Lenz law does not apply to an inductive discharge because a true inductive discharge does not follow the standard transformer turns ratio-- it also produces a substantial voltage rise when meeting any resistance. If you are an engineer then perhaps you can tell me how Tesla produced a 10,000 volt rise per inch of conductor in his open helical coils? Has anyone here actually read any of Tesla's patents or literature? ---besides IST.
@Tink
You have more to learn than you could possibly fathom ;)
Regards
AC
Farrah Day already covered the Wiki issue. Don't always believe everything you read.
Reading Tesla's patents and literature doesn't mean that he understands anything.
I have read all of Dr. Phil's books so with your thinking that means I am a psychiatrist.
AllCanadian please change your name. You and IST are making the rest of us Canadians look pretty stupid.
Sorry Mr.Mag but you are confusing your BEMF with flyback. BEMF/CEMF ARE THE SAME. You cannot counter an EMF and also produce a flyback at the same time. CEMF/BEMF only happens when the current is applied. When the current is removed you get a nice fat flyback return. You can never get a BEMF return since it only exist to counter the EMF. Everyone mixes these up all the time.
Guys come in here all the time thinking they are the Mr. Knowitalls, but only some realize soon enough that hot air only rises and gets lost in the jet stream. They then become good helpers here. It's a matter of choice.
I am no longer surprised by the number of people with no background in science or electronics that pick up a few snippets of info from here and there - more often than not from unreliable sources - and then assume THEY know it all.
QuoteSorry Mr.Mag but you are confusing your BEMF with flyback. BEMF/CEMF ARE THE SAME. You cannot counter an EMF and also produce a flyback at the same time. CEMF/BEMF only happens when the current is applied.
I don't believe Mr Mag is confusing anything. He is clearly one of the few people around here with real knowledge on the subject. The real confusion here is being generated by people without the relevant background education on which to base anything they post.
A flyback transformer is the name simply given to a coil, the title of which somewhat explains its role. BEMF does not just happen when the current generates a magnetic field, but also when that magnetic field collapses as the current reduces or ceases.
The term, 'A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing!' comes to mind.
Unfortunately, as always happens on this forum, posts from educated people providing real facts and useful information are quickly swamped by mindless drivel.
farra take YOUR BULLSHIT AND FLY AWAY ...
take dummy mr mags with ya ...
i have yet to see anything good come from eather of you
why dont you INVENT YOUR OWN SHIT ...
THEN ILL COME IN AND TELL YOU HOW YOUR SHIT IS NOT SO ... AND I WILL ALSO BACK IT UP WITH THE PROPER EXPLANATION ...
JUST GO AWAY ...
WILLIAM!
QuoteUnfortunately, as always happens on this forum, posts from educated people providing real facts and useful information are quickly swamped by mindless drivel.
A point which IST has so kindly emphasised in the above post.
Quote from: Farrah Day on September 03, 2009, 08:22:59 AM
A point which IST has so kindly emphasised in the above post.
SINCE YOU WONT GO AWAY ....
SPILL WHAT YOU MUST ...
SET IT STRIGHT ...
THIS IS THE ONLY REASON I CAN SEE WHY YOU CONTINUALLY POST HERE ...
IT SURE IS NOT CUZ YOU EXPOSED SOME SIMPLE TECK ...
YOU ONLY SEAM INTRESTED IN BS ... AS I SEE IT .. UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD ...
AND IF YOU DO THEN DO SO ...
AND ILL QUIT BEING A DINK TOWARD YOU ..
IF NOT THEN JUST LEAVE ...
OK !!
IST!
@FD
If BEMF = CEMF, then show me some official EE description that describes it as both a countering of inrush and a high voltage kick backwards on pulse off. Question have you ever seen BEMF or CEMF. Not me. It just happens automatically. But I have seen some pretty nasty flyback blow up a heavy duty start switch and more. lol
Just get it straight. You cannot have BEMF if you do not have EMF. It happens at the same time to counter the current inrush at on position. That's it , that's all. Now if that BEMF was going somewhere else, then it can no longer be BEMF or CEMF because it is no longer countering the EMF. To counter something, you have to have an applied force to counter. So I have to spell it out any more then that. OK more.
I was not talking about flyback transformers although, and sorry to say, they do apply.
In overunity endeavors, many try to catch flyback, but they call it BEMF. Wrong. You cannot capture BEMF. That's why they call them flyback transformers and not BEMF transformers. Have you ever seen a BEMF transformer. Why not?
As far as Tesla goes, I cannot recall him talking about BEMF as having the same attributes as flyback.
He knew that when he applied a high potential power source to a large coil at the given speed of electricity, that coil should have been fully saturated immediately, but there is always a delay because there is a countering force to the inrush. BEMF. But when that power is turned off, there is no more BEMF, the applied power plus the countering power now become flyback and returns to the source. You cannot have it both ways.
I don't want to seem rude Wattsup - it's not in my nature ;), but this statement clearly exposes your lack of understanding of very basic electronics, and rather emphasises the fact that you're not at all qualified to talk on the subject. It seems to me that you are relying on dictionary definitions or Wikipedia to educate yourself - it won't work!
QuoteIf BEMF = CEMF, then show me some official EE description that describes it as both a countering of inrush and a high voltage kick backwards on pulse off. Question have you ever seen BEMF or CEMF. Not me.
You ask: have you ever seen BEMF or CEMF? I see the results of BEMF everyday and so do you... you obviously just don't realise it.
I switch on my car engine and my ignition coil immediately uses BEMF to fire my spark plugs.
A steady 12v dc providing a small current through the primary winding is very quickly interupted by the contact breaker. The magnetic field collapses as the current ceases. This collapsing magnetic field induces a Back EMF much greater than the 12v, which in turn pulses the many more windings of the secondary providing upward of 15KV to fire my spark plugs.
Wattsup, take some comfort from the fact that you are not alone. There are many people like you who claim to understand these things after reading just a few lines from Wikipedia or suchlike, and somehow thinking that they are now experts in the field. People like you who, because of a few snippets of info acquired here and there, will argue blindly with people that have years of training and a formal education on the subject behind them, and so in essence are vastly more knowledgeable and experienced.
See the problem here?
Furthermore:
QuoteIn overunity endeavors, many try to catch flyback, but they call it BEMF. Wrong. You cannot capture BEMF. That's why they call them flyback transformers and not BEMF transformers. Have you ever seen a BEMF transformer. Why not?
They call them flyback transformers, because, as I posted previously this was a function of the job these particular transformers do in CRT TV's and monitors, causing the CRT electron beam to 'flyback'.
Frankly, you haven't really got a clue as to what you're talking about, have you?
Quote from: Farrah Day on September 03, 2009, 01:56:38 PM
I don't want to seem rude Wattsup - it's not in my nature ;), but this statement clearly exposes your lack of understanding of very basic electronics, and rather emphasises the fact that you're not at all qualified to talk on the subject. It seems to me that you are relying on dictionary definitions or Wikipedia to educate yourself - it won't work!
You ask: have you ever seen BEMF or CEMF? I see the results of BEMF everyday and so do you... you obviously just don't realise it.
I switch on my car engine and my ignition coil immediately uses BEMF to fire my spark plugs.
A steady 12v dc providing a small current through the primary winding is very quickly interupted by the contact breaker. The magnetic field collapses as the current ceases. This collapsing magnetic field induces a Back EMF much greater than the 12v, which in turn pulses the many more windings of the secondary providing upward of 15KV to fire my spark plugs.
Wattsup, take some comfort from the fact that you are not alone. There are many people like you who claim to understand these things after reading just a few lines from Wikipedia or suchlike, and somehow thinking that they are now experts in the field. People like you who, because of a few snippets of info acquired here and there, will argue blindly with people that have years of training and a formal education on the subject behind them, and so in essence are vastly more knowledgeable and experienced.
See the problem here?
Furthermore:
They call them flyback transformers, because, as I posted previously this was a function of the job these particular transformers do in CRT TV's and monitors, causing the CRT electron beam to 'flyback'.
Frankly, you haven't really got a clue as to what you're talking about, have you?
people like you farrah? people like you that can't manage to get a 15 component circuit working? simple basic electronics like that? so much for your qualifications then.
it's 'interrupted'... queen's english or otherwise.
wow, so you have been playing with a ignition coil and some copper brake line and now you are an 'expert', with a 'qualified' opinion... ::)
frankly, i don't think you could build a joule thief much less stiffler's SEC 15-3.
Wilby, you must spend hours checking through my posts looking for some pathetic angle of attack. While I never credited you as being the brightest spark in the box, it's now become quite laughable - you're actually more childish than IST!
You really are a complete and utter knobhead aren't you Wilby... or is that knob-head? I'll let you choose.
"I don't want to seem rude Wattsup - it's not in my nature "
*causes spontaneous spit-take*
I rarely post, yet read alot. It is unfortunate for me to say, but why must the good threads always turn into pissing contests? The goal is common so let people chose their own paths as unguided as they may seem. With the constant bombardment on peoples educations and experience in my opinion is just a wast of time. If you think someone is on (in your opinon0 the wrong path simply congradulate them on ther efforts, and move on.
Quote from: Linearfashion on September 03, 2009, 05:08:34 PM
If you think someone is on (in your opinon) the wrong path simply congradulate them on ther efforts, and move on.
This is the exact reason I do post. It is not in the best interest of the group to congratulate someone who is completely wrong in what they are saying. Wouldn't it make more sense to try to explain to them what they are actually seeing than to let everyone think that someone has made a new great discovery. Many people who do believe will spend countless hours following this path.
Now when you talk about IST, he is right everyone else is stupid. If you question him, he tells you that it's beyond you or to far advanced and you will not understand. Give me a break. This kid doesn't even have a high school education and he is calling me stupid? I have already forgotten more than he will ever know! Just look at this thread " IST NEO ZAP TECK Breakthrough". What technology breakthrough has he discovered? An arc welder....
Just watch, he will reply to my post saying that I don't understand and that it is too advanced for me to comprehend. If he actually did know anything, he would reply back with proof such as, Input/output wattage. I would love to be proven wrong. I make mistakes too.
shut up and build the damm thing >:( >:( >:( >:( DO YOUR OWN TESTS...
I DONT SEE ANYTHING HARD ABOUT THIS OR TOOO COMPLICATED ... THIS IS KIDS PLAY ....
PERHAPS YOUR TOO YOUNG .. MR MAGG
W
7 7
Constructive critism is a far cry from bashing someones intelligence, is all i am saying. But in my observation, I fell things would be a little more progressive if EGOs where checked at the door.
@Farah Day
QuoteWattsup, take some comfort from the fact that you are not alone. There are many people like you who claim to understand these things after reading just a few lines from Wikipedia or suchlike, and somehow thinking that they are now experts in the field. People like you who, because of a few snippets of info acquired here and there, will argue blindly with people that have years of training and a formal education on the subject behind them, and so in essence are vastly more knowledgeable and experienced.
Did you know that 80% of all patents that have benefited mankind the most were made by person's having no formal training in their field of expertise?. Did you know that the person's having the highest IQ's (top 5%) have contributed essentially nothing, other than possibly contributing to their own bank accounts. Did you know that if you enrolled in a four year technology course today that 50% of what you learn would be outdated or obsolete by the time you graduated?. Did you know that the growth of knowledge is exponential and that at this moment we happen to be in a part of the curve that is almost perfectly vertical?. That is the reason you are here, you know that your formal training doesn't cut it in a world where technology changes daily, where cutting edge today is obsolete tomorrow. Then there are those darn missing pieces, where hundreds of people have defied conventional logic that nobody can explain, maybe the only reason they have done the impossible is because they didn't know any better, LOL. In which case who is to say who is stupid and who is not, when the untrained can do the seemingly impossible?
AC
im trying to not let my ego get into this ...
im happy that i have had no training in any of this .. and i have a poor education ...
im setting an example for those more so creative ones that are journying down this path ...
i do know what i have solved ... and for some reason it has ALL COME TO ME LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND ...
;)
who knows why ?... im still figureing it out ...
but I WILL MAKE THIS STATEMENT A FEW YEARS AGO ... WHEN I FIRST SAW THE SPARK SOMETHING IN MY MIND CLICKED ... AND I INSTANTALLY KNEW ... I HAD DONE THIS B4 .. AND IM NOT TALKING IN THIS LIFE .. THE COLOUR OF THE SPARK TRIGGERED .. MY MIND ...
AND I INSTANTALLY KNEW THIS WAS THE ANSWER TO ALL OF IT ... ;D
EVEN RESONANCE IS BASED UPON WHAT I FIGURED OUT ..
I CHOOSE TO SHARE ALL OF IT .. AS I WAS TO TIED AND POOR TO AFFORD ALL THE THINGS REQUIRED TO PROPERLY MAKE FULL USE OF THIS ..
SO HERE WE ARE ...
;D
NOW FD ... WHEN YOU COME TO THE TRUE CONCLUSION ... I WOULD EXPECT AN APOLAGY FROM YOU ...
NONE THE LESS ... IT WILL NOT BOTHER ME ...
NOW ABOUT MY NEXT FREE ENGERY TRICK IM WORKING ON ... :D
find a furnace fan .... cuz im a make a motor that has no inputted engery source .. and it will self run ... and turn a generator wich i have built as well i will tap mechanical work from it ... the mechanical work will turn small motors as generators ... the entire unit will be self running ..
of course i have a stupid simple design to achieve what it is i desire ...
and i choose to build this for FD...
as he is always wineing about input to out put tests...... sheesh
for you 2 mr mag...
so if i can make it run ... wich i can ... and generate electricty ...
who cares what the out put is as it is all free..... :P
Lol
ist!
QuoteNOW FD ... WHEN YOU COME TO THE TRUE CONCLUSION ... I WOULD EXPECT AN APOLAGY FROM YOU ...
NONE THE LESS ... IT WILL NOT BOTHER ME ...
NOW ABOUT MY NEXT FREE ENGERY TRICK IM WORKING ON ...
find a furnace fan .... cuz im a make a motor that has no inputted engery source .. and it will self run ... and turn a generator wich i have built as well i will tap mechanical work from it ... the mechanical work will turn small motors as generators ... the entire unit will be self running ..
of course i have a stupid simple design to achieve what it is i desire ...
and i choose to build this for FD...
as he is always wineing about input to out put tests...... sheesh
for you 2 mr mag...
so if i can make it run ... wich i can ... and generate electricty ...
who cares what the out put is as it is all free.....
This I've got to see. You do this IST and you will get your 'apolagy' in full. You will also have oodles of potential investors knocking at your door - for real.
However, you do understand don't you, that a blurry YouTube video along with a photo of a fan and a couple of magnets and you saying that you're getting 'free energy' just won't cut it.
IST, I'd like nothing better than for you to prove me wrong about you, and show the forum (or the world) something really impressive to match all your bold claims. However, your millions of nonsense posts somewhat go against you, rather highlighting the fact that the odds of success are not particularly in your favour.
So it's not that I don't have overwhelming faith in you... but I won't be holding my breath.
Quote from: allcanadian on September 03, 2009, 11:54:08 PM
@Farah Day
Did you know that 80% of all patents that have benefited mankind the most were made by person's having no formal training in their field of expertise?. Did you know that the person's having the highest IQ's (top 5%) have contributed essentially nothing, other than possibly contributing to their own bank accounts. Did you know that if you enrolled in a four year technology course today that 50% of what you learn would be outdated or obsolete by the time you graduated?. Did you know that the growth of knowledge is exponential and that at this moment we happen to be in a part of the curve that is almost perfectly vertical?. That is the reason you are here, you know that your formal training doesn't cut it in a world where technology changes daily, where cutting edge today is obsolete tomorrow. Then there are those darn missing pieces, where hundreds of people have defied conventional logic that nobody can explain, maybe the only reason they have done the impossible is because they didn't know any better, LOL. In which case who is to say who is stupid and who is not, when the untrained can do the seemingly impossible?
AC
Precisley!!
Quote from: allcanadian on September 03, 2009, 11:54:08 PM
@Farah Day
Did you know that 80% of all patents that have benefited mankind the most were made by person's having no formal training in their field of expertise?. Did you know that the person's having the highest IQ's (top 5%) have contributed essentially nothing, other than possibly contributing to their own bank accounts. Did you know that if you enrolled in a four year technology course today that 50% of what you learn would be outdated or obsolete by the time you graduated?
How the fuck can you possibly know any of this? Source, or I call bullshit. 95% of all quoted statistics are made up on the spot, like this one.
FD ...
DONE DEAL !!
AND YOUR ON !!
I WANT AN APOLAGY FROM YOU ... :)
I KNOW YOUR NO FOOL !!
AND I ALSO KNOW FULL WELL I CAN DO THIS EASLY ..
also im going shoping at a special place tommorow ... ;)
so to make it even simpler .. i was given some wire spools.. :D
and if i can move the bigones ... i was given ..
I WILL SET A WORLD RECORD FOR THE LARGEST PULSE MOTOR GENERATOR EVER BUILT ..
THE BIGGEST SPOOLS ARE 7-8 FEET TALL WOOD AND 5 " THICK ... AND THATS ONLY 1 SIDE ..
THERE A LARGE NUMBER OF SPOOLS TO CHOOSE FROM ... ;D
PLUS ALL THE OTHER GOODIES IM GONNA PICK UP TOMMOROW ..
SURE I SNAP A FEW PICS .. BUT I WILL POST IT IN THE THRED I STARTED FOR THIS UNIT ...
IST!
@also antlike
QuoteHow the fuck can you possibly know any of this? Source, or I call bullshit. 95% of all quoted statistics are made up on the spot, like this one.
A selective photographic memory :) I can't tell you what the wife said yesterday or what we had for supper but if it concerns or relates to technology or science I can recall almost everything I have ever read. The source? this is the internet--google it, or believe what you want it makes little difference to me.
AC
This thread is a "laugh or cry" thread. Way back last December the user Tosky gave everyone the low down on what is really going on with IST's demos. Recently Farrah Day has been trying to hammer home the point about the futility of what is going on here. IST is like the Energizer Bunny and keeps on posting his schtick.
The laptop power supply is charging up the coil so on the disconnects you get some pretty impressive sparking going on. Don't forget it's around 40 volts DC and the coil is integrating voltage over time. Plus 40 volts represents about 10 times the potentially available energy as compared to 12 volts. The magnets are a smokescreen, it's just the clean shiny surface that makes good electrical contact that comes into play.
IST has been faithfully demonstrating the principle of conservation of energy in every single clip that he does.
MileHigh
To get back to the neozap tech obviously the magnetic lines of force about a neo are very strong. The magnetic dipole moments of the atomic lattice have been frozen in the mass of the magnet. Any ions that may be produced by the carbon arc in the presence of a magnetic field will loop along the magnetic lines of force both out of phase and direction. This could result in a charging of a capacitor as the ions travel a different path through the magnetic field produced by the neos. Would the charge developed in the capacitor be in excess of the energy needed to ionize the air in the first place? I often wondered how much charge there exists between hydrogen ions concentrated at the North Pole and the Ozone well now it's the chlorinated radicals down at the South Pole. Below is a good read on how a neozap if fashioned properly and scientific investigations were made could be an energy collection system. Converting atomic thermal energy into electrical energy.
http://www.aspden.org/reports/Es8/Rep8.htm
This is a passage from the above which bears some relavance to selective ion acceleration resulting in excess charge seperation over simple imposition of voltage across a conducting field.
It is a curious fact of accepted physics that the interaction forces between two charges in motion are assumed not to have any dependence upon the mass of the particles transporting those charges. We use Newtonian mechanics to argue that momentum has to be conserved, momentum depending upon mass, but somehow eliminate mass from the electrodynamic problem. Why then should we be surprised to hear that when experiments are performed involving charge interactions between heavy particles and light particles, atomic or molecular ions and electrons, we encounter energy and momentum anomalies?
MileHigh & FarrahDay,
you guys just wait. You will be eating your words when Willy takes his furnace motor and makes it self running and then hooks it up to his wind power switcher that is connected to BEMF cascade amp and then feeding his filsinger turbine air thruster engine that will be powering his water vortex generator. He will also use additional secondaries to feed the free energy vibrating neo zap spark gap which will run through his microwave magnet flux manipulation device using his crazy cap idea and the infamous MAMKC device. This in turn will run the high speed vibrating generator and filsinger squeeze tech pressurizer which will feed the all in one motor generator. This output will run the pulsed electromagnetic homopolar generator, the filsinger pendulum generator, the IST V.A.HPG floating magnet generator plus the all in one turbine generator. These units will be started through the free electricity from crystals and of course using IST's npn/pnp circuit.
Laugh now, but just wait.......
It sounds like one hyper-positive feedback loop will be set up and everything will instantaneously vaporize in a Singularity flash of pure energy.
i guess i better not show you the trunk amps and fiber link i just picked up then ... :D :D :D :D
that was darn funny mr mags ... :)
and while i was there i snaped a few pictures of the xm2 power supply ... naw i couldnt get 1 of thease ...
10 000 each ... yikes ...
it is only my hemf transformer in a fancy case ... just hooked up wrong ... :D ;)
ist!
Quote from: MileHigh on September 05, 2009, 01:26:12 PM
It sounds like one hyper-positive feedback loop will be set up and everything will instantaneously vaporize in a Singularity flash of pure energy.
It may look like it's vapourizing but actually this is where the teleportation system comes in. :D
Hey IST,
You mentioned "THE BIGGEST SPOOLS ARE 7-8 FEET TALL WOOD AND 5 " THICK ... AND THATS ONLY 1 SIDE .."
Can you upload a picture of this spool. I am very interested on what the other side looks like.
QuoteIt may look like it's vapourizing but actually this is where the teleportation system comes in.
OMG, IST has just discovered the "Flash Hole"!!!
@milehigh
It won't disappear it will go straight down the tubes/wormholes.
Quote from: MileHigh on September 05, 2009, 01:55:33 PM
OMG, IST has just discovered the "Flash Hole"!!!
Oh yeah, that was years ago. However, it is too far advanced for us and we're not ready for it, So I guess we won't be seeing it for a while.
QuoteMileHigh & FarrahDay,
you guys just wait. You will be eating your words when Willy takes his furnace motor and makes it self running and then hooks it up to his wind power switcher that is connected to BEMF cascade amp and then feeding his filsinger turbine air thruster engine that will be powering his water vortex generator. He will also use additional secondaries to feed the free energy vibrating neo zap spark gap which will run through his microwave magnet flux manipulation device using his crazy cap idea and the infamous MAMKC device. This in turn will run the high speed vibrating generator and filsinger squeeze tech pressurizer which will feed the all in one motor generator. This output will run the pulsed electromagnetic homopolar generator, the filsinger pendulum generator, the IST V.A.HPG floating magnet generator plus the all in one turbine generator. These units will be started through the free electricity from crystals and of course using IST's npn/pnp circuit.
Laugh now, but just wait.......
... personally I think he'll get the whole thing running from a 3V Joule Thief... and when it's all connected to the teleportation device, I'll be forcing my way through the line of investors to buy one.
It's no laughing matter boys, the world as we know it could be on the verge of changing forever all due to another IST breakthrough!
it all goes from druma to comedy all in 1 day ... :D
lol
im going to pic up some of the smaller spools tonight ..
i have made arangements to move the large spools soon too
the co... is going to let us use the trailer for moveing the spools ...
FREE OF CHARGE
I MIGHT JUST KEEP 1 FOR MY ROUND TABLE .. ;) I HEAR THEY WILL SEAT 13 EASLY ... ;D
THE BIGGEST SPOOLS WEIGH .. BOUT 700 LBS
Quote from: MileHigh on September 05, 2009, 01:26:12 PM
It sounds like one hyper-positive feedback loop will be set up and everything will instantaneously vaporize in a Singularity flash of pure energy.
That just might be what happened - We didn't hear anything past the spools...
Oh well ;D
im just getting back online altho im not even done the construction i have started round here ..
i had to re build my shop this time i made it a bit nicer ..
i have still a week or 2 more of work but it is shapeing up nicely .. then its back to building all winter long ... 8)
plus i have aquired about 25 spools and 5 truck loads of rf gear including 2 skids of trunk amps...
ist!
all my gear is in working ordor and just came out of use... ;D
i have now 3 fiber nodes i hope to aquire at least 1 more ... for mater manuplation expairmentation
@innovation_station
It is good to hear you have a better organised workshop.
I was wondering for many of the new folf here if you could in simple terms:
List the projects you worked on?
Explain which ones worked and which ones didnt?(and why if possible)
What your current research is?
Have any of your projects produced overunity?
You have a large volume of posts and have indeed inspired many projects(not overunity) I just thought it would be nice to have a summary from you.
Kind Regards
Mark
hello mark ...
to sumerize ..
im happy with what i have learned in my time at school OU .
lol :D
yes i have an good understanding of unity.. not a compleate one yet but i bet noone does .. ;)
over unity is in my opinion the wrong term .. but cheep green clean engery ... that is a diffrent story ..
indeed i have worked on many things .. i was verry lucky to understand most of the things i have looked into in my reserch with out compleatly building or finishing them ..
im confident i can finish any number of devices i have started ... however i choose to move along ...
as most is old crap ... :D
and i never really had a desire to build and compleate all of the designs ... but i dont think many are failures .. to be honest ..
in all the reserch i have done i realized the root of it ... from there and only there will we build a proper understanding of what is takeing place with thease so called free engery devices ...
the kick is the root .. what is the kick ? it is the interaction of a natural magnetic flux feild the earths magnetic flux feild
you can atain this a few ways here are some ....
you can cancel the flow of magnetic flux from a permanat magnet with out any inputted engery ..
or you can make an electro coil converting the electric engery to a magnetic form and turning it off.. and allowing the earth magnetic interaction to take place while it is in a magnetic state ..
you can redirrect and seperate the driveing engery from the colpaseing / returning engery you have allowed yourself access to ..
peace...
1 day soon i will be ready to present on a public note .. all of my findings ...
W
Andrew D.Basiago was on coast to coast am last night.He claimed to be one of 140 children who were used in secret testing (1960s,1970s) of time travel and teleportation by the US government.Check out www.coasttocoastam.com.It was called the Pegasus Project.He said it was Tesla type teleportation.triffid
I listened to the show and I think that guy is full of crap. Just my opinion but what he was saying was not even consistent with his own story. That show has gone downhill since Art left.
He said that he was sent into the future to read his paper that he was going to write, and they did this to make sure he got it right. Well, if he had to go to the future to read the paper he had already written, I guess he got it right the first time. The guy is an attorney...need I say more?
Bill
well i was intrested in his story ... and ill tell you why...
i actually think we spoke in a sence through the computer it was the weirdest thing ... he was being interviewed .. but at that time it seamed as tho he was watching my post to ou in a thred about him ... where his inter view was posted
totally strange recient event .... so really looking at it from my point of view ... because this event wich i explain in the TPU QAD thred ... made me think a little harder bout all of this ..
and then you look where all of my work points to ... myself included ... my zap on good friday ......
makes me wonder....
ist!
so i just got done emailing him ... see where it goes ...
bill
what is MER KA BAH? A TP ER? LOL ;) TO WHAT IS IT BASED BUT THE GS OF COURSE ... same thing ST logo is based ... many many things dateing back who knows 100 000's of years ....
I believe in Tesla even though Andrew A. Basiago may be full of crap.He said he was teleported to mars and says that mars has over one million humanoids living below the surface.To me these are wild claims but I will wait for his book to come out and see what others have to say about it.I saw the pictures of the rovers trail taken from space.Its hard for me to believe that mars surface is not all tracked up with footprints or other trails if living beings are on mars.Of course you have the martian winds but you also have protected areas(from the winds) where one could find tracks of some kind.I did want to mention his radio interview on coast to coast here on www.overunity.com
in spite of some of his more wild claims.triffid
triffid:
Hey, that's cool. As I said, that was just my opinion, everyone is entitled to theirs as well. I try to keep an open mind about such things but I just didn't find him credible is all. On the other hand, I believe everything we have learned about Tesla and I wish we knew the other stuff that is kept from public view.
Bill
Art is back on the show "coast to coastam" this next friday night.It would great to know what was taken from Tesla's apartment after he died.triffid
triffid:
I love it when Art pops in from time to time. Thanks for the heads up. I actually called in and spoke to Art about 6 years ago or so. He is a great guy in my opinion.
Thanks again,
Bill
So I tried to replicate the neozap, but was not successful I think. I admit I used parts that were not exactly the same:
Instead of a MOT (which has specifications like 120V input, 2000 Volt output) I only used a common transformer, which I had at home, with specs as follows: 10V input 220 V output - however the "proportions" seemed to be approximate. I had neodym magnets, 20 pieces, each 3cm long - which too is different compared to the flat ones, IST used).
My device was powered by a simple 9V battery. I used the 10V primary side for input and the secondary side remained open.
Result: babysparks :-[ and a smell of burned material in the air after a while.
Ok, anyways, what I have seen on the voltmeter is, that the primary transformer coil creates a big EMF when closing the contacts, and another big impulse when opening the contacts. This is commonly known though. The voltage on the primary coil however showed peaks of 1500V+. I am not sure how I should interprete this, maybe it's the collapsing impulse from the "unused" secondary coil which causes a final impulse in the primary?
If I removed all magnets I still got the babysparks. I think the sparks were a little bit better with at least 1 single magnet, but I believe this was caused by the very smooth conducting surface of the magnet and not by an amplification effect.
Afterwards I tried the same circuit powered by a Wimshurst device, which however resulted in nothing. I wonder if there is a minimum power input required to get decent results, for IST used a laptop power supply which is much greater with its 19V@4A...
as i have seen ..
the core is not required nor is the secondary .. i can achieve the same results from a simple peice of wire ..
ist!
it is the inductance ... low inductance = HIGH CURRENT SPIKE .. high inductance limits consumption and = high voltage spike .. hence how i BORROW THE ENGERY FROM SOURCE it runs with gain the gain from opening the contact and closeing it .. it is only allowed to exit through the load ..
ie .. the bulb ... power the bulb first .. from source then allow the colpase to be used by the bulb .. when first engergized the bulb will be verry dull if lit at all ... : )
Hmm true, tried out on some other coils, yes it works without core and without secondary coil at all (although not that good on my handwound examples - but it works). These spark actions however drain very much power from the batteries... and very fast...
Well anyways, I experimented around and somehow came to the "Boost converter" circuit posted on page 5 which works good with an LED.
Hmm... I'm stuck a little bit; where is the OU to be found? Ok, the explanaton in Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boost_converter#Operating_principle) regarding the boost converter says, that the coil absorbs energy when the connection is closed and it delivers energy when the connection is open (if using an LED in the circuit). Now what do I need to do.... do I need to wind a monster coil, so that it sucks out all energy from the batteries, and then when opening the switch it delivers this collected power to a load?
However, after experiencing how fast a battery drains, I am not sure if that is reasonable ??? Maybe I'm also on the wrong path of what you wanted to demonstrate, @IST.
ok well you got results .. so this is good
if you can get a MOT . comprehenction will set in ..
try diffrent wireing configurations .. this is polarity synced ...
this means as i have seen 1 way it helps you the other .. it hinders you ..
so think how you can use 2 coils and BOUNCE ALL THE CURRENT AND BOTH KICKS TO OUTPUT !
IST!
YOU CAN ALSO ADD A CAP SO IT CONSUMES LESS..
watch this video .. im useing 13.5vdc 1amp ..
: )
ist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77fF7ciD-0&feature=related
here is another video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRhk_my7b2A&feature=related
New movie in cinema "Saw IX - the Riddles of IST" ???
Ok, at the risk of making myself a total noob I go back to the basics, and therefore back to root experiments with the "kick". I use a 1.5 V battery and power a LED with the circuit below (and also the same circuit as in neo-zap, secondary transformer side open). As IST has already mentioned it is the collapse of the magnetic field that is important, others call it BEMF. As far as I have seen the Joule Thief works on that principle as well.
I got now 4 different results, as seen below, with the best result gained from only 1 arrangement, which is number #2. The results are gained only when opening the switch causing the collapse. When closing the switch the LED does not lighten up at all. Looking at the best result arrangement it looks like the LED is wrongly polarised, still it works remarkably best from all of them.
I wonder why... and also wonder if this could magnified a lot more. Unfortunately I was not able to measure current and voltage because my Multimeter is simply too lazy to react on the kicks. This makes extending the device more diffcult.
Is it that what you are talking about, IST: 1 arrangement creates high current peaks, and another one makes high voltage peaks? Unfortunately this is only "guess-work", because I can't determine which is which, my multimeter cannot even recognize the peak where the LED flashes very strong
in all situations the led flashed .. intresting dont ya think ?
from a aa 1.5 vdc
now re try the test reversing the polarity of the coil not the switch then reverse the switch
then try all 3 agin with the switch reversed .. ie neg swithcing pos switching ..
for a total of 24 possible ways .. thus far ...
ist!
Holy sh****... as I today tried the circuit posted above it didn't work at all anymore(?)... the LED didn't lite up at all. I must have worked very sloppy not realizing that.
I need to put the LED parallel and *not in series* to the coil like that:
|-----coil-----|
|-----LED-----|
| |
|____1.5V____|
Then the LED flashes work again... (I mean wtf..., did I have brain damage yesterday or what?!? Maybe I mixed up 2 different wires, because all my wires have the same color...).
And answering your question: yes I find it interesting that the LED flashes in any case :). So now I can try to examine what you suggested in the last post.
Ah finally I have corrected my tests and sketches:
(for all electro engineers: I know most of this is in todays books, but I want to understand what IST has seen in these things, it is obvious he has another eye for them, as also had Tesla 100 years ago).
I interprete from the first line of the picture attached, that the magnetic field collapses in a way that the flow of current is reversed from the polarity of the batteries. That would explain that the LED flashes brightly only when it is arranged reverse to the battery poles.
The second line from the picture shows the same result as above, only reversed.
The third line (I have not listed all combinations, but tried all of the ones listed above) shows that if the switch is put after the LED, it only flashes very weak.
I can see very small sparks however on the switch whenever the LED is only flashing very weak. In the arrangement where the LED flashes very brightly, there is no sparks anymore. So obviously the LED receives only at this arrangement the full collapse.
Did I got that right, IST, or am I missing something in my arrangement?
i think when conducted properly you will find a pos bang and a neg bang .. and all the little bangs ..
basically it is a verry nasty thing to figure out ! : )
thats no joke ...
ist
the simple transformer works many ways ... this is the reason your doing it by hand ..
throw a transistor in the mix ... YOU GOT HALF THE WORLD THINKING .. ITS A JT ! LOL
BUT WHATS A JT ... LMFAO
Ok, I extended with a transistor and a 2nd coil as suggested (picture attached):
The first circuit is the extension of the previously posted circuits. I admit that I let myself be inspired by the final versions of this circuit, therefore I also posted the recommended version from internet (middle). The LED shows the biggest brightness on the middle circuit.
The circuit on the right was a test, if I could power the base of the transistor with impulses from my Toepler influence machine (or any Wimshurst device) - yes it does work too, though not as bright as the other ones. But much brighter than trying to power an LED directly by a Wimshurst.
The test with the Toepler did also show that it is not only a "Transformer" process between the 2 coils (because there is no second coil on this arrangement), but in fact the LED gets its power from the "Kicks" only.
If I check with my digital multimeter the result on the circuit shown in the middle the current is 3mA and the voltage 980mV. Since an LED needs at least 2+ Volts, there must be a kick big enough, which however is not recognized by my digital multimeter. A short test tapping (releasing) the switch of previous circuits on my ancient Analog-Voltmeter (seems to be better than all these digital devices...) showed a short peak of about 2.5 Volts and therefore seems to confirm this.
Now that the LED light is very steady there must be a whole lot of kicks per seconds. It almost looks like the kick is double the power from the source...
On a sidenote... somehow I don't like Transistors (they are almost like a blackbox to me, although there is lots of literature explaining them), I wished I could exchange them with something else...
lets see you can use a door bell a buzzer a vibrator a relay a spark gap a motor .... hummmm
lol
i can go on and on ...
i would perfer if it had 0 junk in it !
it is then almost dummy proof !
lol
ist
great work !
I'm stuck again. I tried to check the kicks on an oscilloscope (borrowed...) and they were quite large. However then I tried to put on other loads instead of the LED:
A small e-motor or a small bulb requiring only 600mW. Unfortunately none of them could be powered by the kicks and both didn't show any reaction at all. So although I could power dozens of LEDs it is not possible to power anything else :(
Clearly the amperage is the missing thing. And the peaks don't seem to deliver enough of amperage, so they are consumed like chocolate. How to go on now? ... :s
A DIODE AND A CAP .. OR THE MAGNET ... AND TRY AGIN ....
IST
now what if the driveing cap was the output cap such as seen in my video below ..
http://www.youtube.com/user/innovationstation#p/u/32/FVs_7uCbkbQ
It has taken some time since I was struggling with loose connections very often, and a transistor died :(
Also I wanted to get 100% sure (again...) that the LED was not lit up by the transformation effect within the transformer I used (8V input, 220V output). Therefore I exchanged the transformer with a small bifilar aircoil (no core) with an 1:1 ratio - and it worked great.
Last time you suggested that I need to implement a diode and a cap. I hope I made it correct when you look at the picture attached?
Now in your video clip you show how the caps are charged with voltage when pressing a switch very shortly: because this circuit is switching very often, I guess I should get a rise of voltage as well. I did get one, although my capacitor is very small. Does this output (green text in the pic) compute with what you have been expecting?
But now, although I get this kind of voltage what can I do with it? Are the "kicks" stored in the caps or what?
Quote from: gauschor on May 08, 2010, 01:45:59 PM
It has taken some time since I was struggling with loose connections very often, and a transistor died :(
Also I wanted to get 100% sure (again...) that the LED was not lit up by the transformation effect within the transformer I used (8V input, 220V output). Therefore I exchanged the transformer with a small bifilar aircoil (no core) with an 1:1 ratio - and it worked great.
Last time you suggested that I need to implement a diode and a cap. I hope I made it correct when you look at the picture attached?
Now in your video clip you show how the caps are charged with voltage when pressing a switch very shortly: because this circuit is switching very often, I guess I should get a rise of voltage as well. I did get one, although my capacitor is very small. Does this output (green text in the pic) compute with what you have been expecting?
But now, although I get this kind of voltage what can I do with it? Are the "kicks" stored in the caps or what?
im sorry in my video .. THERE IS NO TRANSISTOR ...
THOSE ARE MY RESULTS PER INDIVIGUAL PULSE ..
PULSE IT 12VDC ... DRAIN CAP HUNDREDS OF VOLTS ..
REPETE ...
: )
IST
WITH OUT CAP USES 160 MA 12VDC .. it operates best at lower speeds .. also in that demo video i used 19vdc 4 amp supply
im sorry this is best understood useing a MOT ...
ie it is a inductive inballance wich fills the caps SOOOOO HIGH SOOOOO FAST FOR SOOOOOOO LITTLE ....
GET A MOT ...
TO FURTHER UNDERSTAND !
ist!
Just to get sure: so basically I can't see any great OU or strange effects if not using at least a MOT and a minimum power source (the 12VDC adapter you suggested) ? :-\
From the circuits posted before the LED "lives" from the peaks, but it's more like "phantom" strength which breaks in as soon as a stronger load (e.g. 600mW light bulb) is connected :s
Quote from: gauschor on May 08, 2010, 04:02:02 PM
Just to get sure: so basically I can't see any great OU or strange effects if not using at least a MOT and a minimum power source (the 12VDC adapter you suggested) ? :-\
From the circuits posted before the LED "lives" from the peaks, but it's more like "phantom" strength which breaks in as soon as a stronger load (e.g. 600mW light bulb) is connected :s
UNLESS YOUR HAND WOUND 20 MILE LONG COIL HAS 35 PLUS HENRY OF INDUCTANCE ... YOU WILL NOT SEE WHAT THE MOT WILL TEACH YOU ..
IST
I just wanted to add the following: I received different results from either using an aircoil or my 8V/220V transformer box. However I decided to put the 8V/220V transformer on the circuit again as seen on the picture attached. Since I fried my last transistor I put a resistor into the base. I replaced the resistor with different ones and found out that the one at 10 KiloOhms the brightness of the diode was remarkably best of all ??? Smaller and higher resistors lead to worse results.
I checked with the oscilloscope and came upon a frequency of about 444hz. I don't know if it is coincidence that that this frequency is middleton A as well ??? (attaching an earphone to it nicely played that sound...).
I wonder if the measured data is usable power: since shortcircuit current of battery directly in between the poles is: 1.5V*1A = maximum delivery of 1.5 Watt
10/no resistor: 30*36 ~ 1.1 Watt
10 K Resistor: 44V*54mW ~ 2.4 Watt
680K Resistor: 7V*70mA ~ 0.5 Watt
...I don't know if this 2.4 Watt is a "phantom wattage" or not, because it is above the 1.5 wattage from the battery. When I tried investigate it more detailed today I realized however the transistor died again... :P
@IST: I know this topic principally covers more the plasma type of things ("neo-zap") - maybe cuasing effects Tesla called "cold electricity". This also would apply to the arrangement you use when showing experiements with light/plasma arc and magnet spark gaps.
This however is not what I try to achieve at the very first place, mainly because it needs a strong power supply from the grid. I don't like this explicite need for that very much because what do you do if you have no power grid anymore? I see the holy grail in some kind of device like the Thestatika which didn't need any power supply at all from the grid, or the "Coler device" which only needed very small battery input power.
I posted in this topic however because you wrote some pages before that you go back to the basics, in order that people understand this and you referred to Joulethief circuits, so I hope I was not writing completely offtopic in here and learned something.
the case and point ...
all are on topic ... it does not matter !
they all have the same common factor !
: )
ist
please keep up this great work you are doing ..
you will find that any switching device can supply your needs ..
if you hit 60 hz sine great if not who cares ? lol
dc will do just fine ... just intrupt it .. via mechanical switch
or use a simple CHEEP INVERTOR ... to convert dc to 60 hz ac sine .. if you do this you can then SMACK AT 60 HZ TO A TRANSFORMER DESIGNED FOR 60HZ .. AND DO THE SAME THING ...
ONLY RECOVERING MASSIVE FREE POWER
I RECCOMEND A FLB ... : ) MAGNETIC TRANSFORMER PULSE 60 HZ ... TO INPUT .. HARVEST FROM THE OUTPUT WIRES ..
BECAREFUL ... THERES YOUR WARNING
Meanwhile I tried to use a magnet instead of diode/cap or both but I couldn't determine any rectifier? effect or any effect at all. Also because of my last transistor dying I had to exchange it with another one found from an old TV plate (which seemed to be a bit more resistant to heat)... unfortunately I couldn't find any "sweet spot" (which gave me interesting values on previous one) with this kind of transistor anymore... hmmm sux :(
Also I tried to change sides from the transformer box, say: input of the circuit placed into the 220V side and the output to the 8V side. Unfortunately this doesn't work at all. I am wondering why, because I thought a transistor only needs very small currents on the base. However when checking the output with the voltmeter it displayed neither voltage nor amperage.... obviously the small side does not receive any impulse all or the power is totally consumed by the ferrite core within.
I feel empty somehow on the quest for free energy... *sigh*. Now that also all experiments failed trying to get useful power out of a wimshurst maybe I need to combine this Joulethief circuit somehow with a wimshurst device... but don't know how...
edit: I also want to add missing information from the circuit posted before:
The one where I got the "sweetspot" used a C548C transistor
The one where it didn't work anymore was a D1207 transistor
Didn't know where else to post this unless maybe to start a new thread, but was told that because my coil "hummed" what I had built was considered to be a variation of the joule thief. Anyway, here goes.
Built a rotor with four magnets and a coil with 1000 winds of #22 wire. Used the basic Bedini circuit that has a hundred ohm pot for tuning along with another resistor. My son was helping me and what he gave me to solder in was a 100,000 ohm pot, not a 100 ohm, and a 680 ohm, not 60 ohm. I could NOT get my wheel to spin. Duh. No wonder, wrong components. BUT, I noticed as I spun the rotor by hand that when the magnets aligned with the coil, the led light, which is triggered at 90 volts output, lit up. So I aligned a magnet with the coil and my led stayed lit and I was able to charge a second battery from the first. The coil hummed like crazy whenever the magnet came close to the coil. Thought this might be worth mentioning. Where it will lead I do not know, and I need to try it again and get some data down on paper.
IST
I spent most of last night reading the posts on this forum from front to back so that I would be all caught up. I understand where you are coming from wanting to make sure you have the opportunity to cash in on what you have discovered. I also understand the frustration of those who want to duplicate what you have discovered to make sure it does not vanish forever for the chances of that happening are quite real.
A thought here.
Producing something that works, manufacturing it and then marketing it all cost heaps of money that none of us has. Plus from the moment it goes on the market you will be in for the fight of your life against those who would prevent this technology from reaching the public. I believe that such an effort is doomed to failure as so many before you have discovered.
However. I guarantee that if you release what you have here on the internet and open source it so that EVERYONE has it, you will eventually make the millions you want to make without the risks and without the up front costs. How you say? When such a thing becomes too widespread for those in power to control, it will eventually be manufactured by someone and sold by someone, and you have first claim to their profits because YOU released it. Everyone in the world will know where it came from. You will be famous. Everyone will want you on their television show, every magazine will want an interview, and every tech giant will compete to have you working WITH them on this breakthrough. Do you doubt that? Just ask ANYONE who is involved in the free energy research. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people out there who will pay for plans or kits or any information about a product that credible sources have been able to replicate. You KNOW that to be true. We, are your market. I would write you a check tonight for thousands of dollars IF I knew that what you have really works and others had replicated it. I have spent that much money over the years building devices of my own with small successes and great failures. I am not alone, and neither are YOU. Think carefully. Dont give those in power the opportunity to make you disappear, or allow them to buy you off for a few million when you could be rich and famous just for giving this gift to the world. Think about it seriously. If it is real, share it. Have a little faith that you would have the support and backing of ALL of us who want so much for this kind of technology to get out there.
Quote from: Westland on May 30, 2010, 12:21:28 AM
IST
I spent most of last night reading the posts on this forum from front to back so that I would be all caught up. I understand where you are coming from wanting to make sure you have the opportunity to cash in on what you have discovered. I also understand the frustration of those who want to duplicate what you have discovered to make sure it does not vanish forever for the chances of that happening are quite real.
A thought here.
Producing something that works, manufacturing it and then marketing it all cost heaps of money that none of us has. Plus from the moment it goes on the market you will be in for the fight of your life against those who would prevent this technology from reaching the public. I believe that such an effort is doomed to failure as so many before you have discovered.
However. I guarantee that if you release what you have here on the internet and open source it so that EVERYONE has it, you will eventually make the millions you want to make without the risks and without the up front costs. How you say? When such a thing becomes too widespread for those in power to control, it will eventually be manufactured by someone and sold by someone, and you have first claim to their profits because YOU released it. Everyone in the world will know where it came from. You will be famous. Everyone will want you on their television show, every magazine will want an interview, and every tech giant will compete to have you working WITH them on this breakthrough. Do you doubt that? Just ask ANYONE who is involved in the free energy research. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people out there who will pay for plans or kits or any information about a product that credible sources have been able to replicate. You KNOW that to be true. We, are your market. I would write you a check tonight for thousands of dollars IF I knew that what you have really works and others had replicated it. I have spent that much money over the years building devices of my own with small successes and great failures. I am not alone, and neither are YOU. Think carefully. Dont give those in power the opportunity to make you disappear, or allow them to buy you off for a few million when you could be rich and famous just for giving this gift to the world. Think about it seriously. If it is real, share it. Have a little faith that you would have the support and backing of ALL of us who want so much for this kind of technology to get out there.
BETTER GET YOUR CHEQUE BOOK OUT THEN BECAUSE IST HAS ACCEPTED YOUR OFFER!!!
IST WILL PRODUCE A VIDEO WITH FULL EXPLANATION AND FULL BUILDING PROCEDURE!!!
**DO NOT FOOL AROUND!!! THIS IS VERY POWERFUL AND CAN KILL YOU!!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!**
AFTER ALL THE HARD WORK HAS DONE AND HE CAN NOT EVEN POST IN THIS THREAD HIMSELF!!!
HAS TO GET MAAT TO COME DO IT BECAUSE HORUS HAS JUST BE TROLLED SO BAD AND THE FOOLS TRY TO STEAL HIS HAT!!! SO HE STANDS FOR TRUTH AND GETS BANNED!!! WELL IT IS MY JOB TO STAND FOR TRUTH!!! IF YOU BAN ME THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD WILL KNOW WHERE YOU STAND!!!
I WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS KIND OF CRAP ON MY PLANET!!!
WE HAVE EXPOSED!!! WHERE IS YOUR DISCLOSURE!!!
INNOVATION STATION - MOST ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY ON THE PLANET!!!
PROVE IT WRONG!!! YOU CAN'T EVEN PROVE IT RIGHT!!!
WHY SHOULD WE EVEN TELL YOU ANYTHING!!!
PEACE NOW!!!
JT!
!SCHOOL - NEW OLD ALL!!!
ABLE TO LOVE 1
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13463
ABLE TO LOVE 2
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?549-Able-To-Love-2-!SCHOOL-New-Old-All
NOW YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE NOT FOOLING AROUND!!!
I WILL POST THE LINK TO THE VIDEO WHEN I RECEIVE A MESSAGE FROM WILLIAM!!!
PEACE!!!
This should be good. :)
Quote from: MrMag on May 30, 2010, 12:55:12 PM
This should be good. :)
WHO ARE YOU!!!
WHO DO YOU WORK FOR!!!
Jester:
I believe it is a violation of the terms of service to be a proxy poster for someone who has been banned from this site.
What you are doing sort of defeats the purpose of banning someone does it not?
Just thought you may want to consider this.
Bill
You know Bill, if he does actually does make something that works, he probably would be asked back to the forum.
But I'm not going to hold my breath.
Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 30, 2010, 01:44:47 PM
Jester:
I believe it is a violation of the terms of service to be a proxy poster for someone who has been banned from this site.
What you are doing sort of defeats the purpose of banning someone does it not?
Just thought you may want to consider this.
Bill
YEAH WELL
if we played by all the rules where would we be!!!
Humanity would be left in the dark because it is clear to me that noone else here seems to have the answers nor the desire to take this technology to the level it needs to goto.
It is in our hands because we are the holders of the sacred knowledge!!! Its just kind of encoded in our dna. MOST ADVANCED ANCIENT EGYPTIAN TECHNOLOGY!!! Anyway...I dont want to ruffel to many feathers around here and I am glad to see that Mr. Mags has invited William back to this forum.
Its gonna be hard to hold your breath when its taken away!!!
IST GONNA LEAVE YOU GASPING FOR AIR!!! ;D
Have a nice day,
PEACE JT! - Michael
I will be looking forward to that. I have no interest in ripping you off. All I am interested in is assuring that this technology, if it exists, is made available to people everywhere so that we can stop killing our planet. For that, I would gladly write a check for every dollar I have in savings. Once I had a devid=ce that was proven to work.
Quote from: Westland on May 30, 2010, 02:59:33 PM
I will be looking forward to that. I have no interest in ripping you off. All I am interested in is assuring that this technology, if it exists, is made available to people everywhere so that we can stop killing our planet. For that, I would gladly write a check for every dollar I have in savings. Once I had a devid=ce that was proven to work.
Don't worry, he has nothing to rip off. He has never shown anything close to a working device. It would be great if he has discovered something, but I'm not holding my breath. (hope I'm wrong).
Did you miss my post?
I made it bold for you so you would see it!!!
Ya ya ya...we all know that you think IST's work is crap...you been whining about that for months.
AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON YOU GO!!!
WONDER WHY!!!
Quote from: Westland on May 30, 2010, 02:59:33 PM
I will be looking forward to that. I have no interest in ripping you off. All I am interested in is assuring that this technology, if it exists, is made available to people everywhere so that we can stop killing our planet. For that, I would gladly write a check for every dollar I have in savings. Once I had a devid=ce that was proven to work.
I received a message from William and he asked me to let you know that he would produce a video. I have not hear any more but will either post the link here or send you a message when its done. I might go to the lab later to see if hes setting up for video shoots.
SO MUCH HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN!!! HUMANS ARE AT LEAST 200 YEARS BEHIND IN TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENTS!!! NOT TO MENTION THE ENERGY HEALING MACHINES!!!
MAKE NO MISTAKE!!! WE ARE HERE TO TOP THE ROCK!!!
PEACE JT!
No one over here will argue that 200 years old technologies have yet render there service to humanity , we can all agree on that .
Thinking you are Tesla is one thing , quite harmless to others , but proclaiming to be him that is something else .
No one ever attacked IST the way he relentlessly attacked and harass others.
He spends his time calming to attack others whit the power of his mind and with his rock , yes funny but the truths is he is sending bad vibes to others , not the other way around . He is the attacker , and quite frankly is paying for it , just look at his YT account he is arguing with someone there also sending dark vibes , he is a sinking ship .
I use to like the guy , but he changed , he claims is here to help humanity,
no human or alien has the power to change the world , you only can better your self , one can however bring the message to the world so it can change it self .
He thinks he is doing that , but he can't better him self , that must be some alien because its a sad human .
Anyway Mike , what is your point ...
You have been drinking from his fountain too long , you come in here with the same shit attitude , it did not work for him , i still think you can help him , be reasonable maybe if he starts showing what his big mouth claims , and but aside the Tesla thing , if he is Tesla anyway i bet build better stuff then what he showed so far ,hes got like thousands of patents what is the problem !
MAYBE ! William listen for once and recognize you have been a Ahole lately , i don't to hear about the others , but you ! The problem is there , it is not the rest of the planet .
Anyway Mike what do you know about it , you must have some technical expertise , i know you are his friend and web designer but besides that ...
I hope IST won't make you look like a fool .
Mark
Quote from: JesterTerrestrial on May 30, 2010, 07:46:36 PM
Did you miss my post?
I made it bold for you so you would see it!!!
Ya ya ya...we all know that you think IST's work is crap...you been whining about that for months.
AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON YOU GO!!!
WONDER WHY!!!
Just because he sees something for the first time does not make it a great new discovery. For him maybe, but many of us here have been experimenting and doing tests when he was still in diapers. His tests are fine, it is his persistence that it is HIS new discovery that is crap.
Now you don't need to wonder any longer.
My mom grandma used to say the proof is in the pudding. If it works, and can be REPLICATED, then we are all going to owe him an awful lot for sharing with us. If it does not work and we are being strung along like children, then shame, shame, shame. But I have the time to check in here once in a while and see what progress is being made. It is worth a week out of my life for the POSSIBILITY that this might work.
This is total BS! IST, you are not fooling anyone. Yes, you are posting on JT's account which was opened in 2007 and there have been no posts SINCE 2007. And now, you are the one typing on this account which can be easily seen by your syntax and lack of spelling skills and also by what you say. All of which are totally different from those posts made in 2007.
I think this account should be deleted as well as it is being abused.
Don't think I have forgotten about those death threats you made to me...I have not.
Bill
lol, I also think that IST is posting under JT's account. One cannot forget IST's style ;D
LOL I am not William I am Michael.
I already told you who I am. I was a member at Project Avalon and spent several months writing you all a book. Able to Love - !SCHOOL. Go read my thread.
I am the reincarnation of Samual Langhorn Clemens. Mark Twain. Thats right!!!
ISTEAM! - Tesla and Twain!!!
WERE BACK!!!
YOU WILL NEVER FORGET OUR STYLE!!!
I have made a few posts here since 2007. My first post was about my Aerobine a VAWT I made at my friends metal CNC shop. After receiving little interesting in developing wind turbines I put the project on hold. William was building his water turbine around the same time and I was the one who shot the original video on his YT account. Then some discoveries into magnetics, electrics and gravitics opened new ideas. TPU's and Aether Kick back and then the rest is history. I have heard it all, I mean I am on the team. So now I was asked by William to let you know that he has agreed to make a video regarding his Neo-Zap Tech. I will contact him today to get another update.
I back his claims only because I know who I am. So here I stand!!! Shouting out for the Innovation Station.
PEACE NOW!!! JT!
Have a nice day.
Michael
Funny...just scanned the form and saw this thread on the list....things that make ya go hmmmmm.
So who was mark twain?! LOL 8)
Mark Twain will finally reveal all... in November
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9235.0
You would think that Mark Twain could write that up a little better. Disappointed :(
IST! NEO ZAP! RUNNING REAL WELL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76JZDiRwais
IST! NEO ZAP! TECK ROUND NEOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlvKLmuHbqQ
IST! NEO ZAP RED HOT CARBON ELECTRODE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkmlYe_NP7E
IST! NEO ZAP! RUNNING GREAT HUGE OUTPUT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvleOLh42uw
ORIGINAL NEO ZAP VIDEOS POSTED IN 2008. UPDATED VIDEO TBA.
PEACE!!!
Quote from: JesterTerrestrial on May 31, 2010, 07:30:19 AM
LOL I am not William I am Michael.
I have made a few posts here since 2007.
No, you have not. Anyone can look up your post history on your profile. Until IST started posting here a few days ago, there have been NO posts since 2007 and those in 2007 actually had decent spelling and an idea on how to form a complete sentence.
You are not fooling anyone William, trust me, Stefan is not stupid, we are not stupid. Have you not heard about IP addresses?
I am sure this will be delt with accordingly.
Bill
I know from my own work that the closest I have come to a working overunity device is with those that contain a physical spark gap. So I like your approach. A simple rotor/magnet when connected properly using only one diode will produce significant high electrical pulses and allow me to charge a secondary battery. The problem is that the first battery DOES run down, and even when I switch batteries, I can't keep it going forever. Longer than normal, yes, but not forever. I have watched your videos, and understand that you have a huge electrical spark, but I haven't seen anything yet to quantify what you are producing. How much energy is put in is obvious, since you are using a power supply. You are putting in UNLIMITED energy. Therefore it is easy to get back UNLIMITED energy.
Restrict your source and get back MORE than you are putting in, and then you have something. Can't wait to see that. And I am serious!
@Westland: you are new in here and what you expect is perfectly reasonable. If you however expect this from IST, you will wait and wait and wait ;) until you get old and grey, but eventually realize there was nothing to it for the whole time.
Quote from: gauschor on May 31, 2010, 01:47:02 PM
@Westland: you are new in here and what you expect is perfectly reasonable. If you however expect this from IST, you will wait and wait and wait ;) until you get old and grey, but eventually realize there was nothing to it for the whole time.
@gauschor
I agree with what you are saying. If a guy either doesn't know how to
make measurements or doesn't want you to have them, why will he ever
change his behavior? I've seen a bunch of Gee-whizz stuff from IST but
he never shows the details, never gives measurements. I am left feeling
completely uncomfortable not only with the guys builds but also with his
motivation for making the device in the first place. It's interesting from an
imaginary fantasy standpoint, and maybe someone is paying him to build
these things, but I disagree that the reality of what a device can do,
scientific knowledge, scientific boundaries and the way those things are
expressed in words of language are only of secondary importance. I no
longer expect much from IST and I don't feel I'm going to be disappointed.
Boys and Girls of the technical fields...do not grow up to be like IST!
:S:MarkSCoffman
Wow Mark, you hit the nail right on the head with the "imaginary fantasy" statement. Well done.
I always thought that the entire purpose of these threads was to SHARE everything we learn and discover so that we can keep advancing. I have made some discoveries myself, and am more than willing to share them. I believe that the only way to push forward is to keep taking little bits out of the wall until it falls, and we ALL benefit from what is on the other side of that wall.
I have built many, MANY devices, and I never tear one down to use the parts to build the next because I have learned something from every single build I have made. Right now I have a completed Kromrey converter that I still need to run data analysis on. I haven't had it running long enough to get any results.
But the most promising is the simple coil wound with one strand of wire. Using a rotor with four magnets, a set of points, and one diode, I have been able to power the electromagnet AND get large pulses back down the same wire, something you CANNOT do without using some kind of spark gap. I believe THIS is how people have been able to build a device that acts as a motor and a generator at the same time, and it is WHY I believe there may be something to what IST has developed.
Quote from: Westland on May 31, 2010, 05:54:34 PM
I always thought that the entire purpose of these threads was to SHARE everything we learn and discover so that we can keep advancing. I have made some discoveries myself, and am more than willing to share them. I believe that the only way to push forward is to keep taking little bits out of the wall until it falls, and we ALL benefit from what is on the other side of that wall.
I have built many, MANY devices, and I never tear one down to use the parts to build the next because I have learned something from every single build I have made. Right now I have a completed Kromrey converter that I still need to run data analysis on. I haven't had it running long enough to get any results.
But the most promising is the simple coil wound with one strand of wire. Using a rotor with four magnets, a set of points, and one diode, I have been able to power the electromagnet AND get large pulses back down the same wire, something you CANNOT do without using some kind of spark gap. I believe THIS is how people have been able to build a device that acts as a motor and a generator at the same time, and it is WHY I believe there may be something to what IST has developed.
Ok , i will bite , If you got something to share fine , please do share .
Ist never help anyone , if you share with him , he will most likely say he already build that unit and knows everything , but he will pay attention to what you say , quickly build it , then discard your efforts ...
If you are not IST , then i challenge you be a big boy , and share your stuff with everyone , create your own tread .
Welcome to OU ...
Since today is a holiday and my wife will kick my butt if I go down in the basement and start shooting videos I will wait until tomorrow. But I will post a short video on youtube tomorrow first thing, and a schematic here if that is allowed. If not, I will see about starting my own thread.
Understand that I am NOT claiming overunity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just believe that the direction I am going is "A" correct one. There are probably many others.
I hope IST has found one. It would save me many long hours of working with data and doing measurements. Regardless, I will NEVER give up looking for something that works. And I will be positive if it is something I have built, because I will have the data to back it up as well as a working model.
Please do share. It sounds very interesting but you should start a new thread for it. This thread is spam and you should not have anything that you are working on associated with this one. You can start a thread in any area you want. It can be moved later if needed.
Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 31, 2010, 01:00:37 PM
No, you have not. Anyone can look up your post history on your profile. Until IST started posting here a few days ago, there have been NO posts since 2007 and those in 2007 actually had decent spelling and an idea on how to form a complete sentence.
You are not fooling anyone William, trust me, Stefan is not stupid, we are not stupid. Have you not heard about IP addresses?
I am sure this will be delt with accordingly.
Bill
Um yeah ok... Did you actually go and look. I did. I have several posts on some of IST's threads in several different months in 2008 and 2009.
So what you say is 100% FALSE!!!IP = Internet Protocol address and if you actually look you will see that I have never even logged into this site from the same IP as William because we live in two different places!!!
Thank you.
Michael
Quote from: MrMag on May 31, 2010, 08:58:19 PM
Please do share. It sounds very interesting but you should start a new thread for it. This thread is spam and you should not have anything that you are working on associated with this one. You can start a thread in any area you want. It can be moved later if needed.
Dear Mr. Mags,
All I have seen from you is crap. Every post is bla bla bla about nothing!!! Sure seems like your on a dis information agent mission to bash IST!!!
Do you have anything constructive to add to this thread that is titled IST! NEO ZAP! TECK Breakthrough ....
Your Trolling is not welcome here. I do not think westland posted in this thread to listen to your ignorance.
We are working on developing new technology with a budget of $0.
I am so sick of the the wars based on lies!!!
SO...Either you post your own solution to the worlds free energy...that will be based on IST's Kick that he has fully explained and was the first to do so...or Please STFU!!!
INNOVATION STATION - HORUS AND MAAT
MOST ADVANCED ANCIENT EGYPTIAN TECHNOLOGY ON THE PLANET!!!
WE HAVE EXPOSED!!! WHERE IS YOUR DISCLOSURE!!!
Have a nice day.
JT!
Quote from: Westland on May 31, 2010, 08:50:15 PM
Since today is a holiday and my wife will kick my butt if I go down in the basement and start shooting videos I will wait until tomorrow. But I will post a short video on youtube tomorrow first thing, and a schematic here if that is allowed. If not, I will see about starting my own thread.
Understand that I am NOT claiming overunity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just believe that the direction I am going is "A" correct one. There are probably many others.
I hope IST has found one. It would save me many long hours of working with data and doing measurements. Regardless, I will NEVER give up looking for something that works. And I will be positive if it is something I have built, because I will have the data to back it up as well as a working model.
Hi westland.
i will send you a private email
Peace!!!
Looks true, I must admit. Though Michaels "style" seems to be influenced from the IST-"style". After clearing that up however it does not make any difference on how bad things are presented from IST.
Quote from: Mk1 on May 31, 2010, 06:07:33 PM
Ok , i will bite , If you got something to share fine , please do share .
Ist never help anyone , if you share with him , he will most likely say he already build that unit and knows everything , but he will pay attention to what you say , quickly build it , then discard your efforts ...
If you are not IST , then i challenge you be a big boy , and share your stuff with everyone , create your own tread .
Welcome to OU ...
Well Im not really the inventor...more a writer and I have seen enough to know to be wise!!!
I well know what William has accomplished...so did a few others. Wanna see a copy of the contract where they tried to buy us out!!! ;) Guess the NEO ZAPPER caught some attention!!!
Not really sure why we should just give it all away with out anything in return. We asked for some funding years ago!!! Now your global economy is about to crash and the grid runs the risk of going dark!!! All Innovation Station works have been privately funded and what we have solved is the answers to the enter globes energy crisis.
well its almost too late for all the money in the world. Money is dead. What happens when we start releasing alchemical secrets and the transmutation of materials LED into GOLD!!! Whats that gonna do to your already screwed economy!!! And now people are begging IST to release the secrets on the hope that we might get a few bucks to live on!!! Well I tell ya...that we live well below the poverty line. We speak out on truths that are so far advanced that many human minds just melt. People I talk to get dizzy when I begin to explain some of the work we have done. I mean shit man...we got a human tuner designed!!! Kick your Chakras in the ASS!!! Activate your golden light body!!! And we have yet been able to see a few bucks in chump change to even feed our kids!!! I have not been able to buy my kids grocery for 6 months!!! So ask me if I care if you ever understand free energy!!! do your own research!!! I did!!!
In order to take this technology to the level it needs to goto I again say!!!
WHAT NATION IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST TO BACK AND FUND INNOVATION STATION!!!
!ST CANADAMaybe we can even talk IST into build a couple of devices to reinforce the magnetic fields of earth to repair the damage caused by the WEAPON haarp!!! We have presented so much already and now it is time for someone to step up and stand for truth!!! We have exposed our reincanated history and ancient technology!!! Now I demand some action from the earth human governments!!!
Maybe you like sitting in the dark.
PEACE NOW!!! JT!
INTER DIMENSIONAL FEDERATION OF FREE WORLDS!!!
Funny how I think I and I know others offered IST some money or investment some time back...never heard from him. Well itwas semi conditional...just show one device where the input was less than the output. I guess with all the genius about it might have been a too simplistic request.
Anyway here is the the suggestion...put up or shut up.
Kind Regards
Mark
Quote from: JesterTerrestrial on June 01, 2010, 09:53:43 AM
Dear Mr. Mags,
All I have seen from you is crap. Every post is bla bla bla about nothing!!! Sure seems like your on a dis information agent mission to bash IST!!!
Do you have anything constructive to add to this thread that is titled IST! NEO ZAP! TECK Breakthrough ....
Your Trolling is not welcome here. I do not think westland posted in this thread to listen to your ignorance.
We are working on developing new technology with a budget of $0.
I am so sick of the the wars based on lies!!!
SO...Either you post your own solution to the worlds free energy...that will be based on IST's Kick that he has fully explained and was the first to do so...or Please STFU!!!
INNOVATION STATION - HORUS AND MAAT
MOST ADVANCED ANCIENT EGYPTIAN TECHNOLOGY ON THE PLANET!!!
WE HAVE EXPOSED!!! WHERE IS YOUR DISCLOSURE!!!
Have a nice day.
JT!
I thought my posts were short and to the point. You are the one that is rambling on about how IST has solved the energy crisis and a lot of other BS.
As far as your neo tech goes, I can short out a big induction transformer and get some really big sparks too. You prove nothing and claim the world.
Now that we have a new person here, you want to suck him into your world and steal his project. Leave him alone.
@ Jester (IST)
I stand corrected. I missed a page of your posts and, it is true, you did have a few in 2008. Funny, it was at the same time IST was banned and on read-only. Coincidence? I don't think so.
I have lost count but I believe this is either the 3rd or the 4th time IST has been put on read-only.
Why has your syntax suddenly changed to the same as IST uses? Why is your IP the same as his? Also, you claim to be a writer? Possibly you should learn the English language and how to type before taking up that as a career.
You are not fooling anyone here at all.
Don't forget, I do this sort of thing for a living.
Bill
Interesting. I found this posted here:
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/knowledge-is-power-t474.htm (http://www.themistsofavalon.net/universal-lounge-f8/knowledge-is-power-t474.htm)
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JesterTerrestrial
Forgot about this forum I guess? Here it shows IST and Jester are one and the same. Opps!
Bill
Easier to see the connection this way:
Hahaha, good one Bill. I didn't know you were a private eye.
So he's at the Knowledge is power forum. I hope he reads all the threads. :)
MrMag:
Yes, I have been a PI now for over 10 years. I also do armed security and process service.
Bill
I hope I never cross you :)
He is also quite well grounded...I believe it was zink he used.
Regards...
Well actually it could still be 2 crazy friends. "ISTEAM" sounds for me somehow like IST+TEAM, so a team which consists of more than 1 person. But who cares, maybe put both on silent mode until they grow up and learned some scientific experimentation skills.
You mean to tell me that shorting out an induction coil is not a breakthrough? Damn, I wanted to buy stock. >:(
Well you guys are fools now. Because I really am Michael. I have told you so many times now. I built the Aerobine.
http://www.youtube.com/user/AerobineVAWT
I OWN AND OPERATE HOLSTEIN FARMERS MARKET
www.holsteinfarmersmarket.ca
TOLDNES WOODCRAFTS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxy9nHPhbOA
I work with William at his Innovation Station Lab. I have met a few members in person from this forum so they well know that I am who I say I am. So all this lies you are making up are simply to distract from the truth!!!
INNOVATION STATION - TESLA AND TWAIN!!!
HOW MUCH FREE ENERGY DO YOU WANT!!!
William said to me yesterday that he was cleaning up his lab and going to be setting up to shoot some more video. What he posts in it I do not know as I told you I am the writer he is the inventor. And if you would have just listened to him in the first place then this world would already be a different place. So if you are not standing up for truth then it is obvious to me and the rest of the world who is begging for MERCY that you are only trying to slow down those who are working hard.
Where are your inventions to solve earths energy problems!!! Where is your passion for truth no matter how many people keep bashing you day after day and month after year!!!
yet here we are still telling you how it is!!! Were the ones stepping up to the job at hand!!! We are the ones putting ourselves in the open!!! For what!!! Because it is our job to bring these technology to the world and we are reclaiming what is ours!!!
You are on my planet!!!
This dose not have to be difficult!!!
ISTEAM - HORUS and MAAT!!!
EXPOSURE - YOU ARE WELCOME!!!
DISCLOSURE - GREEN LIGHT!!! GO!!!
Quote from: JesterTerrestrial on June 01, 2010, 05:08:28 PMBecause it is our job to bring these technology to the world and we are reclaiming what is ours!!!
There is but 1 problem to it: You have failed for 3 years now to deliver anything useful.
Quote from: JesterTerrestrial on June 01, 2010, 05:08:28 PM
Well you guys are fools now.
So all this lies you are making up are simply to distract from the truth!!!
I am the writer he is the inventor.
Where is your passion for truth no matter how many people keep bashing you day after day and month after year!!!
Were the ones stepping up to the job at hand!!!
Because it is our job to bring these technology to the world
This dose not have to be difficult!!!
We are the fools? We are not the one who is pretending to be someone else and also, claiming to be a WRITER when you can't even string more than two sentences together without some terrible grammatical or spelling error. (As evidenced by the sentences quoted from you above)
Ever heard of spell check?
I count at least 6 terrible errors that a 5th grade English student would not make.
(That is only in the excerpts that I quoted from you, I did not proof-read the entire post, that would take way too long to do)
What a circus this is.
Send in the clowns....oh wait, they are already here.
Never mind.
Bill
@Bill
I would not get to worked up about this. I find it amusing and its always good to have a variety of people with different backgrounds and opinions. In this case we did have a vacancy for the villiage idiot and it now has been filled.
Kind Regards
Mark
@ Mark:
I agree except that it has been filled by the same old village idiot using another guy's account.
But, you are correct and I appreciate that.
Bill
Thanks for all your support. Maybe you can present your answers then because its obviously taking us to long to do everything with no budget and old junk for parts. Are all the answers just freely given out. NO THEY ARE NOT!!! Those with eyes to see will know that William has a very good understanding of his technology. So come on...where is the team spirit here...dont you guys want to support your friends in developing a solution for billions of people!!!
No news from William about his video yet and what he plans to present. I do not know if he will share it public and perhaps if you keep bashing everything we do maybe he will never share his work.
Feel free to wind your own coils and experiment and share your work. Im not going to stop you. And if you get real good...maybe I will write a book about you too.
Have a great day,
Michael
Quote from: JesterTerrestrial on June 01, 2010, 09:12:27 PM
And if you get real good...maybe I will write a book about you too.
Michael
I would have to lower my IQ by about 75 points to be able to read it.
Bill
Quote from: Pirate88179 on June 01, 2010, 09:20:35 PM
I would have to lower my IQ by about 75 points to be able to read it.
Bill
Maybe not. The book will probably be in the childrens section. Look under "fiction".
@all
It is not Ist , i know its Mike , i could prove it , i got some email from him before , and i spoke to him once .
Ist , gets out of control faster , and is meaner .
Mark
if any of you guys need it i will show it , but anyway ist changes his name to Horror or is it corus ...
Well, they are definitely two of a kind. Thanks MK1
Btw , witch one of you guys is messing with IST on YT , its funny but he thinks i am doing it , and that bothers me a bit .
I never needed to hide under some alias to tell him that he acts like a moron .
I was feeling i bit bad about putting pressure on Harti to kick him out , but then he came back , and got himself banned like a big boy , no help from me , so all and all i don't feel bad anymore :).
Mark
Btw , Ist was sure i was ED Leedskalnin ... lol i almost got to be the third Stooges .
Ok IST/Horus/Moron
You insist , and keep saying i stole your shit stuff ...
Here are some quite interesting PM , the first one is form Mike , he admits he is selling my coils .
The second one is Ist saying he sold a MK1 Nano ...
Some days later he is saying that he is selling like crazy .
Now the only thing he advertised for sale on his store was mk coil ...
He IST you know Tesla was a chess master ?
Check Mate , Morus and stop saying stuff about me , because i can show even more stuff ...
Now i hope this will close the subject , he never had anything to sell on his site , before the mk1 coil mk2 mk8 .
@MK1
a very enlightenning post. Actually it was a real gem and I think it says it all. It has all the classic signs or a couple of parasitic scam artists. Well done Mk1
Mark
(Australia)
So lets just argue about it all and watch nothing get done!!! you were supposed to keep up the good fight as my private message that you just posted public said!
Maybe you should Invite William back to the forum so he can talk to you himself!!!
Whada ya say!!! Maybe!!! Well Alright!!!
I thought you wanted to sell your coils and I also thought that IST had been working with you as a friend to help you develop these coils. Sad that we can't all agree on a way to use this to help the human race. Its almost like some folks just dont want to help
Anyway. IST still was the first to expose the kick and explain it as far as I remember the story. Before that everyone missed it so it seemed and now IST has developed some of the most advanced methods of using this technology. i think you have seen many of his coils. Many of them have never been tested yet but once you have the basics down and understand the technology you can build it and know how it works. Well at least IST can because he has got the genius mind to him and can see visions with his EYE!!!
Horus and his ancient Egyptian technology is the most advanced. I have seen the other devices William has built and if this world would ever come to its senses perhaps William will be able to present them. At this rate it looks like there a real hate on for us humble inventor folk. Must be onto something eh!!! Just because we listed coils that are claimed to be yours dose not mean that William did not help you out in your early days of research as I seem to remember some of the conversations as I have spent a great deal of time at his lab. All said and done i think you know what IST has developed.
ISTEAM - HORUS AND MAAT
Quote from: JesterTerrestrial on June 02, 2010, 12:42:47 AM
So lets just fight about it all and watch nothing get done!!!
Maybe you should Invite William back to the forum so he can talk to you himself!!!
Whada ya say!!! Maybe!!! Well Alright!!!
I thought you wanted to sell your coils and I also thought that IST had been working with you as a friend to help you develop these coils. Sad that we can't all agree on a way to use this to help the human race. Its almost like some folks just dont want to help
Anyway. IST still was the first to expose the kick and explain it as far as I remember the story. Before that everyone missed it so it seemed and now IST has developed some of the most advanced methods of using this technology. i think you have seen many of his coils. Many of them have never been tested yet but once you have the basics down and understand the technology you can build it and know how it works. Well at least IST can because he has got the genius mind to him and can see visions with his EYE!!!
Horus and his ancient Egyptian technology is the most advanced. I have seen the other devices William has built and if this world would ever come to its senses perhaps William will be able to present them. At this rate it looks like there a real hate on for us humble inventor folk. Must be onto something eh!!! Just because we listed coils that are claimed to be yours dose not mean that William did not help you out in your early days of research as I seem to remember some of the conversations as I have spent a great deal of time at his lab. All said and done i think you know what IST has developed.
ISTEAM - HORUS AND MAAT
@all
First this really show that it is Mike and not Ist.
@Mike
I don't care about the dam coils , Ist wont stop saying i stole stuff from him , and bad mouthing me to any one that still listen to him , i just need to set the record strait .
You are a reasonable guy , you would done the same .
The kick , that is the last ist joke , the kick is a response by any wire ,coil , transformer , name it , we used transformer for over at least 150 years , the early patents aren't even Tesla's so , and is all those years it never worked on any thing else the ac or pulsed dc , that is the only way the transformer works ... And by claiming it , basically means that he invented everything .
So Mike some times it is better to stick to what you know , Ist use to be a better person , i bet i just didn't know better , he acts like a bully therefore hide your lunch money .
I know some coil sold , do i care for the money , nope .
Even if he did sell only one , and got enough for some coffee , i get insults for that .
Thank you , Mike for being a nicer person .
Now make sure you really endorse him , because it doesn't look like a sure bet .
Mark
"Horus and his ancient Egyptian technology is the most advanced. I have seen the other devices William has built and if this world would ever come to its senses perhaps William will be able to present them."
Lets say I am part of the rest of the world. What do we have to do to change? if you can demonstrate proof of concept (in an acceptable manner) the money is there to put it into production. So what is the hold up? I know people who will sign multi million checks tommorrow if something worthwhile can be demonstrated.
We have a saying in Australia "put up or shut up"
There is a lot of prize money out there that can be claimed as well.
Kind Regards
Mark
Let us not forget that after we showed IST how to make a JT circuit, he claimed he had invented it.
So, I had to post, time and again, that the circuit was invented by Big Clive over ten years ago even though IST claims he invented it in 2008.
I am tired of this crap! I do not forget IST's death threats to me. That is a serious thing to do and he did it to the wrong person. Too bad he did not know that beforehand. Oh well.
Bill
@all
Now to conclude , Ist M.O. Take a newbie for a ride .
I bet he still dose it if he has the right to PM .
The first PM i ever got was for ist , wanting to talk .
I did not mind , so it did talk to him he was interested in how to make my coil , and i helps him , when he stopped talking about how smart he was .
But still needed my help and not the other way around ...
Second message was for additional tips , most of my answer or still there on the jt treat and directed at ist .
When he needs help he goes by PM , to maintain the illusion that he knows everything .
Anyway he offered me a job right away , the doesn't have money or dose he .
@Mike
I know he is your friend but , he never ever helped me as much as i helped him .
So stop being stupid , and take him for what he is pure entertainment nothing else .
@Ist , you had to ask for it ...
So those are the 6 first PM i got from Horus .
MK1:
I find it too much of a coincidence that we see the same poor grammar and misspellings that JT is using on his posts here. I know that these are 2 different folks but I also know that IST is using this fellow's account to post here. It is as plain as day.
No other person can butcher the English language the same way as IST does. I don't care if these guys are friends or not but, the syntax shows it all.
Bill
@pirate
He would have reacted to my post , i don't know if seen the one one the last page , proving he made money from my design , his own word . And i had to show him how ;D
He would have reacted differently .
But they do stand for the same thing , poor grammar , is result of not going to school and living in Canada apparently . :D
But they hang out together , they both think the same , speaking the same is not so surprising ...
He is dirtying my name with lies , and i am cleaning him with the truth .
He made money form my creations , never had anything to sell of his own , and , now i showed it all in 2 pages , I HELPED HIM WHAT DID I GET !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Roz4xyh2LSU THIS .
May this be a warning to any newbie , if still can PM ...
hey, hey, hey. Stop with the Canada stuff eh. We are not like him at all. Most of us here actually finish school. I think that he is a result of the "computers for kids" program. Is he really the age he says he is?
Maybe MK1 should have joined the "Team". You might have been able to talk some sense into those two.
Don't worry MK1. He is not slandering you. We know better.
Quote from: Mk1 on June 02, 2010, 04:02:41 AM
But they do stand for the same thing , poor grammar , is result of not going to school and living in Canada apparently . :D
you forgot the "A" eh!!!
that should read...
Poor Grammar is "a" result of not going to school.
:D
Michael.
Yes it has been a lot of fun working with William. And he is my friend and I well know that he has shared some very advanced understanding of electricity here with many. Asked for some basic funding do develop some of his ideas into usable energy devices. However the problems seems to be that those who are in charge of the old world order are not ready to admit that they do not have the skills needed to take this planet into the golden age. IST is Horus and has developed technologies far more advanced that some basic JT circuits and some very advanced TPU designs as well as many other technologies he has never spoken of. IST is just getting phiyered up.
Why else did NEO ZAP get so much attention. Soon as it was posted we were contacted! Maybe there is something to it worth looking at a little closer perhaps a device can be developed to power peoples homes. Kind of hard to work some magic as i said on a budget of nothing and endless bashing from people who wont even tell me who they are working for!!!
If you do not want PEACE on this planet what do you want!!!
JT!
Quote from: JesterTerrestrial on June 02, 2010, 08:53:13 AMAsked for some basic funding do develop some of his ideas into usable energy devices. However the problems seems to be that those who are in charge of the old world order are not ready to admit that they do not have the skills needed to take this planet into the golden age. IST is Horus and has developed technologies far more advanced that some basic JT circuits and some very advanced TPU designs as well as many other technologies he has never spoken of.
Stop this nonsense talk. It's his own fault. There is no world order who can control and suppress the internet, as long as writing skills, documentation skills, youtube, free file hosts, forums etc exist. And they do. If there are reasons why there isn't a breakthrough in any new kind of technology it is because either
a) it is not a great invention at all, or
b) utter incompetence in presenting the technology
Regarding Joulethiefs, TPUs and the "kicks": as long as these "kicks" are not able to power a motor (
which they aren't) there is no great effect in it at all. A nice gimmick, nothing more. Powering some LEDs will not save the world. Please get real...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4u8yCXp3G4
PEACE JT!
INTER DIMENSIONAL FEDERATION OF FREE WORLDS
Info from a Newbie
I took a single coil with 300 turns of #22 wire.
On each end of the coil was a rotor fixed to a shaft so that when the rotor turned, the shaft turned. My intention is to "scale up" this design to the point where I can power an alternator or generator. There are four magnets on each rotor. The magnets on one end of the rotor that face the rotor are north. The ones on the other end that face the rotor are south. On the end of the shaft is a cam that opens and closes a set of automobile points so that the points are wide open as the magnets on the rotor pass the coil, canceling out the electromagnet so that it doesn't "lock up" on the coil.
Here is how it is wired.
The negative on the supply battery is connected to the negative on the charge battery
The positive on the supply battery is connected to one end of the coil. The other end of the coil is connected to two places, "A" and "B"
A is one side of the points, which act as a switch. The other side of the points is connected to the negatives of both batteries.
B is a IN5408 or NTE5809 diode which goes to the positive of the charging battery.
Thats it. Very simple
The hardest part is getting the timing just right so that it will run. The points have to open before the magnet on the rotor gets to the coil and close just after it gets there.
My intention is to add more rotors to the shaft to increase its torque and add more coils. There can be 4 between each rotor, so with three rotors I can have 8 coils. Lots of power and lots of torque. I am in the process of building a BIG model of this concept.
When the charging battery is connected, nothing unusual takes place. When it is disconnected, there is a bright blue spark that flashes between the points as the cam rotates. This is the negative energy.
This is a one wire coil that captures the negative energy that is put out whenever the magnetic field in the coil collapses. I had this same circuit hooked to a 12 volt electric motor that I got from US Robotics. That motor used brushes and as it turned, it put out a HELL of a nice charge. I was able to run all kinds of things off of it for several months and then it just quit working.
I believe that a motor or an alternator can be used to run part of the time as a motor which keeps itself turning, and part of the time as an alternator which produces electricity. (At least one such device was actually manufactured shortly after WWII and sold all over the eastern part of the US. It had special brushes, and when they wore out, the units quit working. All this is documented FACT)
This is the direction my research is taking me. I have purchased several small motors and alternators that run on 12 volts and am attempting to get them to run in this manner. I WAS successful for three months, but I need to be able to REPLICATE that success, and it needs to last longer than three months.
I promised to post a video. Sorry it has taken so long. Technical difficulties.....like I couldn't find the cable to connect my camera to my computer! Duh! The link is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjdWXwpip3k
Hope this helps.
Quote from: Westland on June 02, 2010, 02:15:31 PM
I promised to post a video. Sorry it has taken so long. Technical difficulties.....like I couldn't find the cable to connect my camera to my computer! Duh! The link is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjdWXwpip3k
Hope this helps.
Video is set to private, we can't see it. Is this intended?
Nope, that was my mistake. Hopefully I have fixed that error now! If not, someone let me know and I will try it again.
great Video, wow you have a real Aldins Cave. Is it ok if we ask some questions on you past experiments. Thank you for posting the video
Kind Regards
Mark
Id be happy to answer any questions I can. I haven't achieved overunity on anything yet, except for one device that no longer works, so I am no further along than anybody else here.
Nice work Westland!
Ok so I was getting a little bored, and it's too hot in the house, so I went down in my basement. I fired up my Kromrey converter for the first time swince I got the brushes aligned so they work correctly. The voltage on my charge battery went from 12.45 to 12.50 in a matter of seconds, and that is the "resting" voltage once I let it set for a few minutes after turning it off. Problem is, it burnt all the insulation off the wire that goes from my source battery to the motor. All the other wires were fine. Hmmmm. Does this mean my motor was pulling too many amps for my wire? I am just a half retired beginner when it comes to electronics. Anybody out there who knows anything got any ideas?
Quote from: gauschor on June 02, 2010, 09:21:53 AM
Stop this nonsense talk. It's his own fault. There is no world order who can control and suppress the internet, as long as writing skills, documentation skills, youtube, free file hosts, forums etc exist. And they do. If there are reasons why there isn't a breakthrough in any new kind of technology it is because either
a) it is not a great invention at all, or
b) utter incompetence in presenting the technology
Regarding Joulethiefs, TPUs and the "kicks": as long as these "kicks" are not able to power a motor (which they aren't) there is no great effect in it at all. A nice gimmick, nothing more. Powering some LEDs will not save the world. Please get real...
I can power a regular tape cassette motor with my joule thief .
http://www.youtube.com/user/abramrk1#p/u/6/eiLcbTBewhw
@Jt
You don't know shit , ist showed a 60w incandescent bulb lighting on his neo-crap , that is the reason people noticed .
But he did it with 16v 4 amp , to him and some newbie it looks impressive
, lighting a 60w bulb intermittently using 64 watt , that is useless .
You may thinks but still you don't know shit , you are getting fooled by your good intent .
And btw , i really could not care less about A mistake , since English is only a third language to me ... What is your excuse ...
Mark
Quote from: Westland on June 02, 2010, 06:53:54 PM
Ok so I was getting a little bored, and it's too hot in the house, so I went down in my basement. I fired up my Kromrey converter for the first time swince I got the brushes aligned so they work correctly. The voltage on my charge battery went from 12.45 to 12.50 in a matter of seconds, and that is the "resting" voltage once I let it set for a few minutes after turning it off. Problem is, it burnt all the insulation off the wire that goes from my source battery to the motor. All the other wires were fine. Hmmmm. Does this mean my motor was pulling too many amps for my wire? I am just a half retired beginner when it comes to electronics. Anybody out there who knows anything got any ideas?
Do you think you could draw up a little schematic. I think it could be a few things.
1) some of the BEMF is pushing back against the battery. You might need to put a diode in series with the battery/coil.
2) timing on the contacts may need to be adjusted a bit.
3) maybe you are drawing a little too much. What is the resistance of the coil?
A schematic would really help in narrowing it down.
I also think you should start a new thread for your motor or post in the Bendini thread.
What you are doing is far more advanced then what is mentioned in this thread.
What is interesting with the neozap is that this experiment resembles a thermal to electric conversion device proposed by Tesla in 1891 or there abouts. The magnetic field of a permanent magnet was caused to setup in a keeper device with coils wrapped around the keeper. The keeper becoming the core of a transformer with only an output winding aboard. When the core was heated the keeper domains would breakdown and the windings seeing a changing magnetic field would produce emf. Then the heat was removed and the pm would restore the magnetic domains back in the keeper/core material. The neos positioned so that a weak magnetic field reaches a core material and the output of the transformer coils causing just enough inductive heating to cause a rapid disintegration of the core magnetization. The thermal photons radiated would drop the core temperature and the pm would then exert its influence in changing the magnetic field within the confines of the core/keeper.
It would be a real balancing trick to create such a sceanario but heat engines do exist and the disintegration process is helped by any thermal input of the surrounds. Any thermal radiation also cools the core allowing for a heat engine of sorts especially if the wavelength of the radiated thermal energy is transparent to the mass of the core. The induced frequency that "heats" the core is a product of the load circuit. This would cause any incident thermal photons to undergo thomson scattering and the boost in frequency from electron motion is the gain in power of the system.
Quote from: sparks on June 03, 2010, 12:12:08 AM
What is interesting with the neozap is that this experiment resembles a thermal to electric conversion device proposed by Tesla in 1891 or there abouts. The magnetic field of a permanent magnet was caused to setup in a keeper device with coils wrapped around the keeper. The keeper becoming the core of a transformer with only an output winding aboard. When the core was heated the keeper domains would breakdown and the windings seeing a changing magnetic field would produce emf. Then the heat was removed and the pm would restore the magnetic domains back in the keeper/core material. The neos positioned so that a weak magnetic field reaches a core material and the output of the transformer coils causing just enough inductive heating to cause a rapid disintegration of the core magnetization. The thermal photons radiated would drop the core temperature and the pm would then exert its influence in changing the magnetic field within the confines of the core/keeper.
It would be a real balancing trick to create such a sceanario but heat engines do exist and the disintegration process is helped by any thermal input of the surrounds. Any thermal radiation also cools the core allowing for a heat engine of sorts especially if the wavelength of the radiated thermal energy is transparent to the mass of the core. The induced frequency that "heats" the core is a product of the load circuit. This would cause any incident thermal photons to undergo thomson scattering and the boost in frequency from electron motion is the gain in power of the system.
IST's neozap does not resemble what you are speaking about at all. He is only shorting out his power adapter through an induction coil with a nickel plated neo magnet attached to one of the leads. There is no keeper, or heat involved.(except for the heat produced from shorting it out).
My bad. I remember watching some utube video is made where he had a neo in the middle of a torroid and waving a second pm a foot or two away from the setup and getting some vibration in the mobile magnet. I thought this was the neo thing but as you described I also remember a utube of his with some arcing going on down the side of a magnet. It did get me researching some of Teslas magnet spark gap quenching back then which led to study of Teslas thermal pyloric generator designs. The generator had no moving parts other than a steam valve and some poor slave shoveling coal into a firebox. The steam after exiting the generator could be used through a normal turbine generator or for direct heating of a plant. Cogeneration scheme without the noisy inefficient infernal combustion engine. You could put one of these in the flue pipe of a boiler or furnace and get some small wattage out of the remaining heat content in the flue gas with a diverter valve which either lets the flue gas go straight up the stack or through the generator. Incoming water to the water heater could be valved in to aid the cooling of the keeper and preheat the hot water. The unit would proove out if some of the current generated acts as the thermal scource for the keeper scrambling.
If it takes as much energy to scramble the keeper as the generator puts out then there is trouble but if the normal energy consuming eddy currents are prevailed on to scramble the core and the permanent magnet resetting the core maybe Tesla left us a nice motionless generator. Get rid of the coal and the fire and just go with eddy current heating of the core and cooling provided by cold water circulated through the keeper. So many experiments to do and so little time.
Quote from: sparks on June 03, 2010, 09:39:49 PM
My bad. I remember watching some utube video is made where he had a neo in the middle of a torroid and waving a second pm a foot or two away from the setup and getting some vibration in the mobile magnet. I thought this was the neo thing but as you described I also remember a utube of his with some arcing going on down the side of a magnet. It did get me researching some of Teslas magnet spark gap quenching back then which led to study of Teslas thermal pyloric generator designs. The generator had no moving parts other than a steam valve and some poor slave shoveling coal into a firebox. The steam after exiting the generator could be used through a normal turbine generator or for direct heating of a plant. Cogeneration scheme without the noisy inefficient infernal combustion engine. You could put one of these in the flue pipe of a boiler or furnace and get some small wattage out of the remaining heat content in the flue gas with a diverter valve which either lets the flue gas go straight up the stack or through the generator. Incoming water to the water heater could be valved in to aid the cooling of the keeper and preheat the hot water. The unit would proove out if some of the current generated acts as the thermal scource for the keeper scrambling.
If it takes as much energy to scramble the keeper as the generator puts out then there is trouble but if the normal energy consuming eddy currents are prevailed on to scramble the core and the permanent magnet resetting the core maybe Tesla left us a nice motionless generator. Get rid of the coal and the fire and just go with eddy current heating of the core and cooling provided by cold water circulated through the keeper. So many experiments to do and so little time.
Do you happen to have the patent number handy. I've gone through most of the electrical patents but have bypassed any that I saw where he was using mechanical devices. I don't remember seeing this one. It does look interesting and probably worth a read.
Thanks in advance.
@Mr. Mag and all:
I also agree with your explanation of the neo zap effect and it's cause.
I have used a similar set up to see if I obtain the same results as IST, and of course I did. But, I have also at the same time manually spun a magnetite egg magnet in the center my 6 inch torroid coil, while zapping a regular metal magnet of unknown type. Although I do get a much bigger spark out of it from the same voltage of my 12volt 1000 mA power adapter. The interesting thing to me was, that while the egg magnet is spinning inside the coil, the heat being produced from the short circuit on the metal magnet being zapped stops entirely, until the egg finally comes to a stop. Then the magnet being zapped again starts to heat up. Although I'm sure this has a perfectly good explanation, I would sure love to see that egg magnet keep spinning, but it does not. Heat or no heat.
Lidmotor- has shown that even a couple of AAs running a JT through a bifiliar coil can make an egg magnet to spin on end. That to me is an amazing feat, and it makes me wonder how that set up can create a spinning vortex. I'm hoping to be able to replicate that effect real soon.
@IST: Thank you for showing us your work.
Waiting patiently for your next video.
Regards to all,
NickZ
Quote from: NickZ on June 03, 2010, 11:20:18 PM
@Mr. Mag and all:
I also agree with your explanation of the neo zap effect and it's cause.
I have used a similar set up to see if I obtain the same results as IST, and of course I did. But, I have also at the same time manually spun a magnetite egg magnet in the center my 6 inch torroid coil, while zapping a regular metal magnet of unknown type. Although I do get a much bigger spark out of it from the same voltage of my 12volt 1000 mA power adapter. The interesting thing to me was, that while the egg magnet is spinning inside the coil, the heat being produced from the short circuit on the metal magnet being zapped stops entirely, until the egg finally comes to a stop. Then the magnet being zapped again starts to heat up. Although I'm sure this has a perfectly good explanation, I would sure love to see that egg magnet keep spinning, but it does not. Heat or no heat.
Lidmotor- has shown that even a couple of AAs running a JT through a bifiliar coil can make an egg magnet to spin on end. That to me is an amazing feat, and it makes me wonder how that set up can create a spinning vortex. I'm hoping to be able to replicate that effect real soon.
@IST: Thank you for showing us your work.
Waiting patiently for your next video.
Regards to all,
NickZ
He doesn't explain what he is doing very well. No drawings or schematics to try to replicate some of his stuff or to explain to him what is going on. You also can't ask him any questions regarding the videos. He just goes off and gets pissed. Probably because he doesn't know himself what is happening but if he didn't know he could at least say it. I really don't expect to see anything amazing come from him. But you never know weirder things have happened.
Quote from: NickZ on June 03, 2010, 11:20:18 PM
@Mr. Mag and all:
I also agree with your explanation of the neo zap effect and it's cause.
I have used a similar set up to see if I obtain the same results as IST, and of course I did. But, I have also at the same time manually spun a magnetite egg magnet in the center my 6 inch torroid coil, while zapping a regular metal magnet of unknown type. Although I do get a much bigger spark out of it from the same voltage of my 12volt 1000 mA power adapter. The interesting thing to me was, that while the egg magnet is spinning inside the coil, the heat being produced from the short circuit on the metal magnet being zapped stops entirely, until the egg finally comes to a stop. Then the magnet being zapped again starts to heat up. Although I'm sure this has a perfectly good explanation, I would sure love to see that egg magnet keep spinning, but it does not. Heat or no heat.
Lidmotor- has shown that even a couple of AAs running a JT through a bifiliar coil can make an egg magnet to spin on end. That to me is an amazing feat, and it makes me wonder how that set up can create a spinning vortex. I'm hoping to be able to replicate that effect real soon.
@IST: Thank you for showing us your work.
Waiting patiently for your next video.
Regards to all,
NickZ
Nick:
With all due respect, the Lidmotor video you referenced was of a JonnyDavro replication. I have videos on Youtube of my replications also. These do not need 2 AA batteries to work, I have run them on a single AA and also from my EER out in the garden. All you need is an earth battery (EER) a JT circuit and a supercap.
IST did nothing like this. If he did it tomorrow, he would claim he invented it and threaten to sue all of us who did it before.
Bill
Quote from: Pirate88179 on June 04, 2010, 01:05:31 AM
Nick:
With all due respect, the Lidmotor video you referenced was of a JonnyDavro replication. I have videos on Youtube of my replications also. These do not need 2 AA batteries to work, I have run them on a single AA and also from my EER out in the garden. All you need is an earth battery (EER) a JT circuit and a supercap.
IST did nothing like this. If he did it tomorrow, he would claim he invented it and threaten to sue all of us who did it before.
Bill
Yeah, and what's up with that. He always says that he invented it and we are stealing it. I guess we are all suppose to do what? He is definitely different. Did you know that they let him on the OverUnity Research website. I really don't believe it. We will have to see how long he will last. He is already starting to act like himself.
MrMag:
You are correct sir. I just checked that out. IST has started like 15 topics in one day. Guess what? No other responses to any of his posts on any of them. Surprised? I am not.
Funny how all of them who were banned from OU.com are over there saying that they are the real scientists on the cutting edge and we here are all idiots. Well, possibly that is true but, if they had just learned to be civil with other posters here, they would have not been banned.
Bill
I bet he is gone over there in a few days .. ITS like frigginn noise pollution...
There are quite a few very smart people over there who were ejected from ou.
I dont agree with the banning of most of them.
Its good they have a place to talk as there is a lot of good work in progress at O.U.R.
And then there are some you can have back ;)
@bill
I don't like the way they talk about the people here. Everybody has to start somewhere. Most of the stuff they talk about is way over my head and I've been in electronics for about 35 years. But then again, I hated theory. I'm a practical kind of guy.
@Darkspeed
I really don't know why they let him in. I agree, he won't last long. The kid is psycho. Good thing he doesn't work at the post office.
Quote from: darkspeed on June 04, 2010, 01:56:25 AM
I bet he is gone over there in a few days .. ITS like frigginn noise pollution...
There are quite a few very smart people over there who were ejected from ou.
I dont agree with the banning of most of them.
Its good they have a place to talk as there is a lot of good work in progress at O.U.R.
And then there are some you can have back ;)
I Go see from time to time what is done on that site , i remember stprue build , but really must say i did not see anything else its all talk so ...
Mark
Sure, I do agree some of the guys that were banned from here were smart, intelligent guys, no doubt about that. But, on the other hand, if Einstein were posting here and started talking about other poster's mothers, and how stupid everyone was, and how if you did not have a $20,000 DMM than you did not know what you were doing, etc., he might have been banned too.
It is one thing to know something, (or think you do) and it is another to share that knowledge and possibly learn something yourself. This is what Stefan has done here. I can not thank the folks here enough for what they have taught me. Anything I have done here, or any thing I might do in the future, is all due to the guys and gals sharing their information and expertise. This will not happen over there. Mark my words.
Bill
Guys:
Thanks for the advice and the correction, Just saw the video for the first time a couple of days ago, and confused the names.
The power of the upright spinning egg magnet using only one or two AAs is really something. I'm surprized that the JT and bifiliar coil can produce a similar effect as Tesla's egg and round torroid. Great to see that such powerfull field effect can be produced with such few components and almost no voltage.
Would be very interesting to see how much it can output through secondary coils. Especially if it were a larger version with a big round Neo magnet, or like the spinning top rotor unit hanging off of magnetic bearings, with the output coils all the way around it, and a tiny charge coil to keep its run battery up. Can't wait to try it.
NickZ
Nick:
Check out Jonndavro's video on Youtube. He had, I believe, like 10 different rotors all spinning in sympathy to the main rotor which was the only powered one. From each of these satellite rotors, he was lighting leds....for free....no higher amp draw at all.
He is way more advanced than I am but his vids are really worth watching.
Bill
Quote from: MrMag on June 04, 2010, 02:29:09 AM
@bill
I don't like the way they talk about the people here. Everybody has to start somewhere. Most of the stuff they talk about is way over my head and I've been in electronics for about 35 years. But then again, I hated theory. I'm a practical kind of guy.
@Darkspeed
I really don't know why they let him in. I agree, he won't last long. The kid is psycho. Good thing he doesn't work at the post office.
The last time I was there, IST was already claiming another guy's invention as his own. Gee, have we seen this before?
Bill
@all
Ist did not last 24 h , his account got deleted by the admin .
http://www.youtube.com/user/IST814
Look at the ch comment , he is threatening legal action against Big Clive .
::)
Does he have money for a cab to go to the lawyer?
MK1:
Why is he doing that?
Bill
@pirate
He must have smoked his last brain cell .
No clues ???
Mark
Quote from: Pirate88179 on June 04, 2010, 09:31:30 PM
MK1:
Why is he doing that?
Bill
He is going to sue Clive for stealing his technology. Don't forget IST discovered the kick.
more fun
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18212
Yes interesting. He is also sending people to the joule thief thread. That's pretty funny. When people see what people are doing there they will realize that he had little to do with it. Pirate, MK1 and Jenna have done the majority of the work/development.
It's pretty funny if you think about it. IST tells everyone that they are stealing his technology when it is actually the other way around. People here are not stealing anything. There is nothing to steal. Most of the work done is to see how high of an efficiency you can get out of Clive's little circuit. Now you have IST claiming it to be his and trying to scam people out of money for it. What goes around comes around.
Man, he is really beating up on Bigclive over on his youtube channel posts. Poor Clive probably has no idea this is going on. He says he is going to enforce Tesla's patents.
Maybe I am wrong but have those not expired yet? Patents do not last forever. Plus, I do not recall Tesla ever building a Joule thief circuit so I think Clive is safe.
Bill
***EDIT*** I just checked on Google and US patents are good for 20 years. I am pretty sure Tesla's patents are older than that. What the hell is he talking about?
Those are HIS patents, you hear me HIS. No one is allowed to steal them. Tesla is lucky that he's dead or IST would sue him too. What nerve Tesla has for patenting IST's work. Very rude.
@Pirate
Ding... time out for one second, please. I don't mean to interupt but, I just have one quick question, as I'm not being passed the ball in the other thread. So, Please excuse my cross-threading, but you have been very polite with me here.
I am totally amazed in what has been done by Jonnydavro and others in the energetic forum concerning the ongoing tests with the Magnetite spinning egg and the Bedinni coil. But when I try tried to join the fun, I am unable to post, even though I am registered. Any ideas as to what I can do about it? As it makes me sort of feel like IST. Read only...
Thanks in advance,
NickZ
Hi NickZ,
I had the same problem a while ago. Just PM the Admin about it. They are having problems and have to enable your account manually.
NickZ:
Yes, I agree with MrMag, that is exactly the thing to do.
Bill
@all:
I think that what was wrong is that now they've made it so that one has to read their somewhat unnoticeable posting agreement before you can post. I'll try it again soon.
If anybody ever hears of a 0 input magnetic vortex device using only resonance, please bring it to my attention, and of course to the rest of us. I've been trying to get those Magnetite egg magnets to spin using only magnetics for a long time, and would love to see them spin forever. At least I see now that it can be done with the aid of a tiny solar panel, or one AA battery and a JT, and even to spin on their ends. WOW!
Thanks again, NickZ
PS. Still holding my breath for the Horus Twain Tesla team's next save the world video. Am I Turning blue yet? Just kidding.
Mr. Mags
Tesla's thermal generators and his pressure driven oscillators were briefly mentioned in a book Inventions, Researches, and Writings of Nikola Tesla link below. Link below about book. I downloaded a pdf version of it and read most of it. Page 424 is where the chapter on thermo magnetics starts. This book also has his famous quote about energy is all around us and hooking into the wheelworks of nature and not having to have any power transmission at all because energy is all around us in the form of heat. Believe that was his opening statements at some of the lectures Tesla presented to the American and English societies of electrical engineers which are transcribed in the book.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inventions,_Researches,_and_Writings_of_Nikola_Tesla
Quote from: sparks on June 06, 2010, 10:59:21 PM
Mr. Mags
Tesla's thermal generators and his pressure driven oscillators were briefly mentioned in a book Inventions, Researches, and Writings of Nikola Tesla link below. Link below about book. I downloaded a pdf version of it and read most of it. Page 424 is where the chapter on thermo magnetics starts. This book also has his famous quote about energy is all around us and hooking into the wheelworks of nature and not having to have any power transmission at all because energy is all around us in the form of heat. Believe that was his opening statements at some of the lectures Tesla presented to the American and English societies of electrical engineers which are transcribed in the book.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inventions,_Researches,_and_Writings_of_Nikola_Tesla
Sparks,
I downloaded that a while ago and started reading it but haven't got that far into it yet. I'll pop over to that page and have a look. Thanks for the info.
I keep wondering if IST will appear and let us all in on exactly how to build one of his devices like we were assured was going to happen. I check back from time to time to see, but so far nothing.
IST has been placed on read-only in this forum. He was banned for violating the terms of service multiple times.
Bill