Have any of you news from your areas? What's going on in your town?
Anything interesting related to Martial Law? Is the US Military training in town?
Never heared about this (in Germany. I find some good informations
in Wikipedial, aswell in google-tube. synchonized in german.
very impressiv
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8460389361255798355
Only the gov. of a state can declare martial law, not the President. It is a state's right's issue, which is why we fought the civil war. The Military is training here in my state (Kentucky) but we have two Military bases (Ft. Knox, Ft Campbell) and I have noticed nothing unusual other than the "normal" activity.
Bill
G'day all,
I don't understand your argument Bill. You say that in the US martial law can only be declared by a state. I don't know too much about the law in the US but that does not make sense to me.
Martial law means that an area is put under the direct control and supervision of the military.
How can a state do this, since the supreme commander of your armed forces is the president as far as I know.
A state of emergency can be declared by a state but that does not put the area automatically under martial law. At least not in my understanding.
Can you please clarify this as I am interested.
Hans von Lieven
Hans:
Yes, control of the Military is correct. But, as I said, our system is set up so that the states have individual control. The founding fathers did not want centralized power. (Although we are getting closer to that every day) This was the main issue that caused our Civil War. States rights vs Federal rights.
So, the Military can only be called out by the state, actually a request from that State's Governor is what would trigger it. They can't go in without this request. (theoretically) When Robert Kennedy sent troops into Alabama against that Governor's wishes, he was violating the US Constitution.
The Federal Gov. still can pretty much get want they want as they wield Federal dollars over a states head. (blackmail) If a state does not fall in line, they stand to loose billions in Federal highway funds, closing of lucrative military bases, etc.
So, I guess having said all of this, if a President wanted to send troops to a particular state, and that Governor did not request them nor does he want them, well, with enough pressure, he would most likely cave in anyway.
I don't have much of an argument as you said because the outcome would be the same as if the President could order troops into a state on his own.
Bill
It seems to me that in the last 6 months, a Bill was enacted, giving the President sweeping powers equal to that of a Dictator...I don't recall any more of the specifics about it though.
Regards...
What is all this crap about?
Quote from: Paul-R on December 30, 2008, 10:35:51 AM
What is all this crap about?
Yes, what exactly is the problem? Aliens? A majority of Earthlings known as "Workers"? What?
Your laws in the US seem to be carried/copied over here in the UK so i get a little worried when i hear they are making drastic changes to your laws.
Im not what you call a typical conspiracy chaser but recent events are realy getting me and many other people i know very nervous!. Here in the uk the government continues signing treaties giving away parts of our power over to brussels even though the public are totally against this.
Your boarder control's with adjoining countries have become a joke....but a similar thing is happening here with polish and other east Europeans flooding the UK, i dont think for a second this was a misjudgment by our governments but more of a controlled introduction to foreigners to get us ready for the impending merger.
I cant believe all the changes that are happening recently and very few people are aware the problems that these new laws will bring us.
We have the terrorism act, on paper seems like it could be usefull, but the laws are abused to silence/arrest anybody with an opinion that falls out side the lines of there ideas, it gives them total and utter control of any person no matter if you are breaking a law or just walking down the street minding your own business.
The last time im aware of anything like this happening was when Hitler was trying to take over the world.
heres how they are chiseling away at your freedoms in the US, this was taken from http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/04/23/the-martial-law-act-of-2007/
Section 1076 of the Defense Authorization Act of 2006 changed the name of the key provision in the statute book from “Insurrection Act†to “Enforcement of the Laws to Restore Public Order Act.†The Insurrection Act of 1807 stated that the president could deploy troops within the United States only “to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy.†The new law expands the list to include “natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other conditionâ€â€"and such “condition†is not defined or limited.
These new pretexts are even more expansive than they appear. FEMA proclaims the equivalent of a natural disaster when bad snowstorms occur, and Congress routinely proclaims a natural disaster (and awards more farm subsidies) when there is a shortfall of rain in states with upcoming elections. A terrorist “incident†could be something as stupid as the flashing toys scattered around Boston last fall.
The new law also empowers the president to commandeer the National Guard of one state to send to another state for up to 365 days. Bush could send the Alabama National Guard to suppress antiwar protests in Boston. Or the next president could send the New York National Guard to disarm the residents of Mississippi if they resisted a federal law that prohibited private ownership of semiautomatic weapons. Governors’ control of the National Guard can be trumped with a simple presidential declaration.
Quote from: Chad on December 30, 2008, 11:34:53 AM
Section 1076 of the Defense Authorization Act of 2006 changed the name of the key provision in the statute book from “Insurrection Act” to “Enforcement of the Laws to Restore Public Order Act.” The Insurrection Act of 1807 stated that the president could deploy troops within the United States only “to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy.” The new law expands the list to include “natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition”—and such “condition” is not defined or limited.
Funny wording, but this type of modus operandi has been prevalent since the conception of our constitution. ...just consider the necessary and proper clause.
Ideally, a constitution would have a catch-all, like in a programming language, the 'else' in an if-then statement that caught anything falling through the cracks. The real problem is who interprets and to what extent that enforce their interpretations. If you know a little bit about what happened in the great fires and earthquake that hit San Fransisco, then you know how atrocious mayoral / gubernatorial interpretations can get when a clause is taken out of context.
Hollywood's interpretations of martial law don't help either; they're practically based on the scenario which occurred in the aforementioned disaster; like a template bad-guy stereotype.... not that I'm promoting martial law.
If martial law is enacted, it should be temporal to a locale and not a nation as a whole. widespread panic is proliferated this way - I'm reminded of the experiments done in third grade where we would whisper a phrase into one person's ear and that person would try to repeat that phrase to the next and so on, when we eventually get the message, we see just how f*cked up that message got.
We go from peas to carrots - media doesn't really help a whole lot.
I talked to someone who was in Iraq who was party-paired to an embedded reporter; this person said that the journalist was nosy and defiant, often misrepresenting the actual situation - being a sensationalist.
I don't support the war or someones sensationalist views of it either - lives have to be saved; there are better ways for sure.
One thing that i didn't support was the event's that transpired in the katrina distaster ... those people should have been afforded the protections sooner, ignorance being a major factor; I would have been put more at ease if I had heard that people were being allowed to keep their weapons, just not at that point, such that they were able to package those goods, and apply some sort of identification mechanism so that they could be returned at a time when martial law was no longer in effect. No person shall be deprived of property without due process.
Martial law is not a due process - it's an affirmation of a lack there of.
@jadaro2600:
Good post.
Most folks blame the Federal Gov. for the Katrina disaster. Actually, the Feds could not move in until the Gov. requested, and, that did not happen. The Mayor also said things were under control. Then, later when all saw how bad it was going to be, and was, FEMA was blamed for not being there sooner.
During the Chicago fire that devastated that city many years ago, does any one know how much aid the federal gov. provided to get Chicago back on it's feet? Answer:0. But yet, somehow, those folks did what they needed to do and dealt with it. Now, folks sit and wait for the Feds to help them tie their shoes. They do not prepare for any such disaster which will happen sooner or later. I am against dependence on anyone but myself much less the federal gov.
Bill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act_of_2006
Question: What is the National Guard for? Why would we need to replace them with ARMED Military troops in full battle rattle?
WTF is going on here?
Vote with your wallet and buy more ammo. You will need it. Pick up a gas mask ASAP. You will need it.
Check out the videos on Youtube on Libertytreeradio.
Check out Militia-Know your enemy. That is the reality of our future if we don't stop this before it gets started. Remember the spirit of 1775 (that's when the WAR started) Train to fight and win.
Rex 84,
short for Readiness Exercise 1984, is a plan by the United States federal government to test their ability to detain large numbers of American citizens in case of civil unrest or national emergency.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm5Bqu7Gk_Y
Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was a plan by the United States federal government to test their ability to detain large numbers of American citizens in case of massive civil unrest or national emergency. Exercises similar to Rex 84 happen periodically. Plans for roundups of persons in the United States in times of crisis are constructed during periods of increased political repression such as the Palmer Raids and the McCarthy Era. For example, from 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
The Police State - HR 5122 for Foreign Troop Insertion in US.
Public Law 109-364, the "John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" (H.R.5122)
The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 passed easily at the end of September 2006, authorizing the expenditure of $526 billion for fiscal year 2007. Only 23 U.S. representatives voted against the Act, and not a single senator objected during a unanimous voice vote.
One provision of the Act, Section 1076, has created outrage among grassroots activists, based on an article that swept through email and independent media rounds: "Bush Moves Towards Martial Law." BORDC has compiled some resources to clarify what Section 1076 actually says, and how the Insurrection Act was changed.
A second provision in the law, Section 1061, would have required Presidential accountability on White House legal opinions about waterboarding and other torture techniques. This provision was modified during House/Senate conference committee sessions. Section 1061's reporting requirements may have been further eroded by an October 17 Presidential signing statement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3YuLGw3Vs0
Posse Comitatus Act Abolished
Sep. 30, 2008
The 3rd Infantry Divisions 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.
Now theyre training for the same mission â€" with a twist â€" at home.
Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for civil unrest and crowd control.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=807B5gZH_-c
Why do they need weapons, if they are for "life-saving response"? Armies don't do that. Armies kill and destroy or as they taught me; "KILL WITHOUT MERCY". This is a COMBAT FORCE, fresh from a WAR ZONE. So, who will they be fighting? Why should we believe OUR GOVERNMENT when they back peddle when they inadvertantly spill the beans? PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF. This is not about disaster relief. This IS the disaster.
Wednesday, December 17, 2008
Ariz. police say they are prepared as War College warns military must prep for unrest; IMF warns of economic riots
http://phoenix.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2008/12/15/daily34.html
economic riots = fighting for food.
We are in trouble deep...its all there for all to see, written in black and white.
Be prepared...get food rations and non GMO seeds.
Regards...
Mystery helicopter hovers over Tempe neighborhood
"...A dispatcher told him it was a military operation.."
http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2008/12/24/20081224tr-coptercaper1226.html#comments
What gets me is that our Local, State and Federal governments are PREPARING for this, but most of the local populations are not doing a thing? Even the local papers are not getting the news out to the public to prepare themselves for what IS COMING. THE GOVERNMENTS ARE PREPARING WHY AREN'T YOU?
Look around, Chinese ARE RIOTING, Russians ARE RIOTING, Icelanders ARE RIOTING, English protests, Greek riots, it's coming to a city near you, just prepare yourself, it's a smart thing to do.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on January 03, 2009, 12:17:58 PM
economic riots = fighting for food.
We are in trouble deep...its all there for all to see, written in black and white.
Be prepared...get food rations and non GMO seeds.
Regards...
Here's a site with some worldwide listings of suppliers USA included:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/seeds.htm
lets see, seeing how america has invaded and fuked over many countries during the last few decades maybe they have run out of fun ?.......so there board and want to lay the smack down in there own back yard?....
"
http://www.organicconsumers.org/seeds.htm "
Thank you for that important link 'frog'...I had found a similar site earlier but lost it somehow.
Regards...
Quote from: b0rg13 on January 03, 2009, 03:17:47 PM
lets see, seeing how america has invaded and fuked over many countries during the last few decades maybe they have run out of fun ?.......so there board and want to lay the smack down in there own back yard?....
Not sure it's quite like that, I have my own theories, as many do. But one thing is for sure, if my main government "leaders" are telling their local governors to prepare, then something is going on, and I should do the same. Just trying to keep the conspiracy stuff in check and trying to look at things with a much broader base of common sense, knowledge and experience. My military training wasn't for nothing, especially when my commanders told us to get our butts in gear and train for deployment.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on January 03, 2009, 03:35:46 PM
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http://www.organicconsumers.org/seeds.htm "
Thank you for that important link 'frog'...I had found a similar site earlier but lost it somehow.
Regards...
Your welcome, and this is what I just typed in Google : " organic seeds "
and I searched " non GMO seed "
My background and training tells me to follow when the animals head for high ground..
I saw a cow in a tree the other day. :)
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on January 03, 2009, 04:38:31 PM
My background and training tells me to follow when the animals head for high ground..
I saw a cow in a tree the other day. :)
Regards...
Amen to the brother, amen. Funny, a lot of people are telling me I'm crazy, but my gut is telling me something is amiss.
to add to your cow in the tree analogy, Was in the back yard working on the pool 2 days ago, and I watched flocks and flocks of birds heading NORTH. Thought nothing of it until now, it's friggin' winter, WTF are flocks of birds heading NORTH for? Strange, but hey it's nature right?
...trolling the american dream with helicopters and alex jones broadcasts.
Yeah, I have this creeping feeling in my stomach also.
" WTF are flocks of birds heading NORTH for? Strange, but hey it's nature right? "
Were they Canada geese or smaller starling sized birds ?
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on January 03, 2009, 05:13:45 PM
Yeah, I have this creeping feeling in my stomach also.
" WTF are flocks of birds heading NORTH for? Strange, but hey it's nature right? "
Were they Canada geese or smaller starling sized birds ?
Regards...
Smaller starling size, most of our crops are south of here and are done for the winter, a few very small home size 1 acre crops sprawled out north of here, but nothing to sustain them in the sizes of flocks I witnessed.
With the erratic weather patterns the birds may just be following the warm weather around and around and around.
Its what those other birds are up to that probably destabilized the climate everywhere.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on January 03, 2009, 05:29:03 PM
With the erratic weather patterns the birds may just be following the warm weather around and around and around.
Its what those other birds are up to that probably destabilized the climate everywhere.
Regards...
Got it...
the other birds moved in to Tucson a few months back, came from overseas. Only one article about their migration was printed about
it. Strange, to see these other birds here in the US so close. Never in my lifetime would I have thought this would be seen.
They've had them manning...er I mean roosting at the FEMA internment camps they built outside of town...all across the US.
Regards...
Just a heads up, black boots roosting outside of Tucson on I-8 working with local support. This was reported within the last 10 days.
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Feature-Article.htm?InfoNo=043300
Were the jack boots foreign or home grown.
You have to know that there will be a fair percentage american boys who will turn on their commanders when they are ordered to kill US citizens...that will be their undoing in the end.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on January 03, 2009, 06:13:40 PM
Were the jack boots foreign or home grown.
You have to know that there will be a fair percentage american boys who will turn on their commanders when they are ordered to kill US citizens...that will be their undoing in the end.
Regards...
I have discussed this very subject with some of my friends who now serve, and with the few I trust, they are ready to switch sides. Most are looking to get out after this tour, just a few months away. Still more are "nuts" according to my friends. So I've researched a few stats trying to get a better, somewhat realistic number, of what maybe these "nuts" number.
Northcom Combat Team Conducts “Humanitarian Support†Exercise in Maryland
http://www.kickthemallout.com/article.php/Story-Northcom_Domestic_Combat_Teams
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Editorial-Page.htm?InfoNo=043247
I've heard reports of Russian and Chinese troops on US soil for a couple of years now.
Regards...
While I was in Europe, back in the 80's - 90's, I witnessed a lot of these birds.
Quote
Foreign military prepares for training in Tucson
Sept. 30, 2008 06:17 AM
Associated Press
TUCSON- Davis-Monthan Air Force Base is about to play host to foreign military fighter pilots.
The allied pilots training in Tucson the next few months are scheduled for combat tours later this year, and will benefit from practicing in mountain and desert terrain similar to real-life war zones, base officials said.
Military aircraft from Belgium and the United Kingdom will be seen and heard in the skies above the Tucson area in the coming weeks as the base ramps up for Operation Snowbird, the annual winter training program for allied and domestic pilots.
On Monday, D-M issued a list of incoming aircraft to let the public know what to expect.
Scheduled to participate in training are nine British Army AH-60 helicopters operating for two weeks in late September and early October.
Two British Puma helicopters will train for two weeks in early October.
From Belgium, 12 F-16 fighter jets will be in Tucson for about four weeks starting in late October.
When weather conditions are right, the aircraft will arrive and depart from D-M's southeasterly flight corridor over less-populated areas, base officials said.
The foreign pilots will comply with all D-M rules aimed at limiting noise impact on residents, base officials said in a news release.
"D-M plans additional public announcements later this year and early next year as other aircraft arrive for training," said base spokeswoman 1st Lt. Mary Pekas.
Wow, great...when does the off base "training" start ?
Regards...
For my friends in Canada:
New eyes on border; A U. S. drone delivered to North Dakota will soon begin northern patrols
Matthew Coutts, National Post
Published: Thursday, December 11, 2008
Related Topics
John Michel
Juan Munoz-Torres
Border Control and Customs
Remotely Operated and Robotic Vehicles
North Dakota Air Force Base
Gary Williams/Getty Images/AFPCrew members taxi the new MQ-9 Predator B, an unmanned surveillance aircraft system unveiled by the US Customs and Border Protection (CBP), at Libby Army Airfield at Ft. in Sierra Vista, Arizona.
Sitting on the tarmac at a North Dakota Air Force Base is the future of U. S. northern border security: an unmanned patrol airplane similar to ready-to-fire aircraft used in Afghanistan, identical to drones scouting above the U. S. border with Mexico and the first of its kind ready to fly along the Canadian border, in search of drug runners, illegal immigrants and terrorists heading south.
The Predator B Unmanned Aircraft System, a plane with a thin, cylindrical body, three wheels and no cockpit, was delivered to Grand Forks by U. S. Customs and Border Protection authorities last weekend and will be launched on patrol missions above the western Prairie landscape early next year. The US$10-million, remote-controlled craft is equipped with video equipment and heat sensors capable of spotting people crossing the border illegally by avoiding ports of entry.
Once heralded as the world's longest undefended border, the thin line of security between Canada and the United States is now viewed by many Americans as a sieve, capable of being exploited by terrorists, and a major concern for national defence in the post-9/11 world.
In recent years, U. S. Customs and Border Protection and the Department of Home-land Security have upgraded security measures making documents such as passports mandatory for visitors from Canada, increasing the number of agents and screening measures at border ports and installing extra cameras and motion detectors along undefended portions of the line.
The idea of a physical security fence running along the Canadian border, similar to one found along the Mexican border, is still an option being endorsed by some state governors.
The use of unmanned aerial vehicles were first proposed in the 2005 Secure Border Initiative as part of a "virtual fence" that also includes fixed towers and mobile radars. The aircraft went into action along the U. S.-Mexico border immediately, but this will be the first one will take flight along the United States's northern border.
According to a statement from border protection's air and marine assistant commissioner, the aerial patrol with help "identify and intercept potential terrorist or illegal cross-border activity" while supporting Canadian and U. S. law enforcement agencies.
Border patrol officials say they make about 4,000 arrests and intercept about 18,000 kilograms of illegal drugs each year along the Canadian border.
Juan Munoz-Torres, a spokesman for border protection's air and marine operations, said the Canada-U. S. border poses significant security concerns because of the distance between checkpoints and a geography which is often hard to reach by land. Aerial patrols will help close those gaps while answering questions about how many people are slipping into the country between checkpoints.
"We don't know what we don't know so I can't tell you what we will find or what we won't find. As we begin operations, we will see what type of activity is taking place and we will then start working in order to stop that activity," he said. Three more Predators are expected to join the patrol along Canada's nearly 9,000-kilometre border. For now, Federal Aviation Administration authority will only allow the aerial patrol along a 480-kilometre stretch along North Dakota and Minnesota.
Senator Kent Conrad, a North Dakota Democrat who has been working for four years to shore up security along the Canada-U. S. border, said the Predator's arrival is the beginning of a secure border.
"It is vital to America's security that we protect our borders, particularly the northern border," Sen. Conrad said.
"The Grand Forks Air Branch plays an essential role in helping shut the door on terrorists who want to sneak across remote border points to strike on U. S. soil."
Colonel John E. Michel, commander of Grand Forks Air Force Base, told the Grand Forks Herald the base will eventually house more than 20 unmanned aerial vehicles, at least six of which will be used for surveillance.
Similar aircraft have patrolled the country's southwestern border since 2005, leading to the confiscation of more than 8,000 kilograms of marijuana and the arrest of 4,000 illegal immigrants flowing from Mexico.
Similar versions of the unmanned aircraft, equipped with missiles, are being used in reconnaissance missions in Afghanistan and Iraq. Those to fly along Canada's border will be unarmed, equipped instead with Raytheon electro-optical sensors and a synthetic aperture radar that can help document natural changes to the area.
The Predator is 20 metres long and weighs more than 4,500 kilograms. It will patrol at an altitude of 15,000 metres. It can fly 418 kilometres per hour and stay aloft for 18 hours before landing to refuel. With its cameras and sensors, it can detect a moving person from 11 kilometres away.
FYI- the other 14 are ARMED FOR COMBAT.
One thing in our favor though...'if man can make it, man can break it'.
Someone will see to it that the technical "antidote" for their surveillance tactics will leak out...blowing the lid off the game.
Don't forget, the criminally insane are first and foremost loony.
The lack of judgment which is part and parcel of lunacy is their Achilles heel...and will ultimately lead to their downfall.
Regards...
Hey, someone asked in the beginning of this topic somewhere if anyone noticed any unusual military activity in their area. OK, I answered no for here in KY. But now, I saw a small article in the paper that says the Kentucky National Guard will do a full, real time emergency deployment statewide sometime in the next month. They said it was to prepare for a "Statewide Emergency" like that caused if the New Madrid fault line (which runs to our north west border along the Miss. river) creates a massive earthquake.
So, I just want to correct my earlier post by saying that yes, I would consider this "unusual" activity. By itself, I would think, no big deal. But, in reading the stories and reports from other states, why all of the "practice" for "emergencies" all of a sudden? I mean, it is always good to be prepared for any emergency situation but, I find the coordination of these many state's activities to be very curious. Especially since they all claim different reasons for the practice, all at about the same time period.
Bill
Too many "coincidences" are never a coincidence.
This whole thing has familiar smell...like human flesh...ours.
Regards...
Yup... And there's a whole lot more stories like this in almost every state.
Keep in mind the financing of the Nazi's by the Bush family, and all the Nazi war criminals that ended up in the US.
This is a gradual Coup d'etat...and its in the final stages.
Regards...
A little background, I come from a long line of military men, I grew up on Marine bases around the US. I served in the Army both here in the US
and in Europe. These acts are NOT normal SOP for US military.
And we are getting our gear bags together. My family and I do not want to be caught in the city if shit hits the fan.
We are purchasing bulk supplies of basic necessities. And to us "bulk" is NOT 3 days worth.
I'm working on our routes out of the city, avoiding major roadways. Seen to many videos of roadway parking lots during emergencies.
I have found a site with some basics on what to do: (this is just one I found while looking for news reports)
http://www.nationalterroralert.com/
*** 72 Hour Kit Info You Need To Know ***
1) Your 72 hour kit should be in a portable container located near an exit of your house or better, sheltered in your backyard.
2) Each family member should have their own 72 hour kit with food, clothing and water. Distribute heavy items between kits.
3) Enclose the extra clothing, matches, personal documents, and other items damageable by smoke or water in plastic to protect them.
4) Keep a light source in the top of your 72 hour kit, so you can find it quickly in the dark.
5) Personalize your 72 hour kit. Make sure you fill the needs of each family member.
6) Inspect your 72 hour kit at least twice a year. Rotate food and water every six months. Don’t forget to check your medications. Check children’s clothing for proper fit. Adjust clothing for winter or summer needs. Check expiration dates on batteries, light sticks, warm packs, food and water.
7) Consider the needs of elderly people as well as those with handicaps or other special needs when building your 72 hour kit. For example: for babies, store diapers, washcloth, ointment, bottles and pacifiers, and other special supplies.
Well, good advice no matter what. Like my old man used to say, "Better to be ready and have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it."
Bill
U.S. Military Preparing for Domestic Disturbances:
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/military_domestic_use/2008/12/23/164765.html?s=al&promo_code=763E-1
Sen. James Inhofe of Oklahoma and Rep. Brad Sherman of California disclosed that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson discussed a worst-case scenario as he pushed the Wall Street bailout in September, and said that scenario might even require a declaration of martial law.
The Army College report states: “DoD might be forced by circumstances to put its broad resources at the disposal of civil authorities to contain and reverse violent threats to domestic tranquility. Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States.
“Further, DoD would be, by necessity, an essential enabling hub for the continuity of political authority in a multi-state or nationwide civil conflict or disturbance.â€
He concludes this section of the report by observing: “DoD is already challenged by stabilization abroad. Imagine the challenges associated with doing so on a massive scale at home."
As Newsmax reported earlier, the Defense Department has made plans to deploy 20,000 troops nationwide by 2011 to help state and local officials respond to emergencies.
The 130-year-old Posse Comitatus Act restricts the military’s role in domestic law enforcement. But a 1994 Defense Department Directive allows military commanders to take emergency actions in domestic situations to save lives, prevent suffering or mitigate great property damage, according to the Business Journal.
And Gen. Tommy Franks, who led the U.S. military operations to liberate Iraq, said in a 2003 interview that if the U.S. is attacked with a weapon of mass destruction, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.
Just ask the people from Kosovo how it was when the their army turned on their own people.
Step one - the banks with held the money from the people and they had an economic collapse (sound familiar?)
Step two - Government said here is $$ for all your guns - the people ate it up and all the civilians turned in their guns.
Step three - the Army came in and raped, tortured and killed over 200,000 people.
The civilians had nothing to fight with so they fought with whatever they could to steal the weapons from the army just so they could resist.
Although this situation is slightly different, it contains a lot of parallels that can not be ignored.
Older video:
Marines doing urban warfare exercises on live American neighborhoods, and
training to take over the civilian government. Swansboro, North Carolina and
Hebron, Maryland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_O2V2TKkfw
My Canadian friends:
Canadian troops to deploy to Obama inauguration? NORTHCOM preparing for false flag?
Will NORTHCOM use Canadian troops to assist with the dire population control problems in Washington, DC on 1/20/2009. Does this mean another flase flag incident that could kill hundreds or thousands or millions? Concern raised about Security Prosperity Partnership.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdObx_dFotY
**Breaking**
9am 12/11 -
Alarming Military Escalation by Homeland Security for "Disaster Event"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyRhWYT5Emw
MARTIAL LAW MEANS OBEY SOLDIERS COMMANDS OR BE SHOT
When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over
generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a
raving lunatic."-- John LeCarre
Israeli Soldiers Patrolling our Streets !! Blackwater Too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q532XUR6mtA
MARINES PREPARE For MARTIAL LAW in INDIANA! VIOLATE P.C.A.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hglvE0QTAY
Prior to every military assault there is a build up of force around the intended target.
This is no different...it is exactly what it appears to be.
Regards...
martial law exercises continue in denver, colorado
rom kurt nimmo: The Rocky Mountain News, after an unflattering article on the Black Hawks â€" yes, tinfoil hatters, black helicopters â€" invading Denver, came back with a clarification. It's all part of the GWOT, or Global War on Terrorism, in response to the reservations of mayor John Hickenlooper. "The federal agencies sponsoring the ongoing multi-agency training in Denver agreed to make the proper notifications regarding the exercises to prevent surprise and inconvenience to Denver residents," Hickenlooper said. "There seems to have been a misunderstanding about the reach and scope of these notifications, and they did not occur in the manner expected by the City."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah_8xu--IEA
PORTLAND OREGON ALSO...
COMMUNICATIONS FAILURES
GET YOUR ASS READY. OR IT WILL BE HANDED TO YOU.
Wow, I just found this following your links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk6ZGXC2Na4
Scary dude. It looks like Barak Hussein Obama is a guy who already knows how to use these types of techniques.
The majority of the voting population of the USA is already there, desperate for a leader. It is incredible to watch it happening all over again.
This sounds horiffic, i wonder if this kind of thing is planned for the UK aswell.
They pretty much disarmed us years ago :(
" It is incredible to watch it happening all over again. "
It has never stopped...they just took the show on the road.
Also remember...it was a George Bush senior controlled CIA that built up Sadam for later service as a patsy, ala LH Oswald.
This is a long running series we have been scripted into...and not a bad movie of the week that ends in a couple of hours.
Regards...
I've got a bunch more videos compiled here : http://www.youtube.com/JAFO82269
and a website with more links and videos: http://www.mysandrail.com/
Quote from: Chad on January 04, 2009, 05:49:03 PM
This sounds horiffic, i wonder if this kind of thing is planned for the UK aswell.
They pretty much disarmed us years ago :(
No worries, my suggestion is to research pulse weapons and the newer sound wave / microwave weapons.
The military is using these techs that are available in the commercial market as well. I've even seen them on ebay sellers that sell components,
check out this ebay guys stuff: intheyear2525
Quote from: Chad on January 04, 2009, 05:49:03 PM
This sounds horiffic, i wonder if this kind of thing is planned for the UK aswell.
They pretty much disarmed us years ago :(
http://blog.wired.com/defense/files/Bioeffects_of_Selected_Non-Lethal_Weapons.pdf
Feds have plan if Mexico violence spills over
Jan. 10, 2009 08:08 AM
Associated Press
"He said National Guard officials in California know only "what's been publicized" about the plan, but added that state military officials routinely train and prepare to respond to any order from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger or the president."
GROUND CONTROL TO AMERICAN PATRIOTS...
As of Jan 8, 2009 the entire and I repeat, the ENTIRE Congress has, without objection, confirmed BHO as our new POTUS elect. This an act of TREASON and is deserving of our Constitutional right to rovolt. It has begun. All that is left now is to appoint a PEOPLES court to evict these usurpers and bring back the Constitutional rule of law. Those of you with the nuts to join may contact me as we are now in the final stages.
Those of you who are party to this treasonous act, know this.., America is NOT going to take it any more. MIB.., SCREW YOU, Get your new high tec weapons out and use them. One such action will be the rallying cry.
Thank you and may God have mercy on our souls.
Carl
Oh and by the way, if you don't see any of my posts you will know they have started. Will be back on monday to see who is out there willing to do the right thing.
Carl
One last thing..,
All those hidden secrets for free energy.. will be THE first priority. Just in case you don't see the implications or ramifications of this. Time for action!
Carl
If this is serious, then I applaud you for doing what really needs to be done.
To quote my favorite dead poet..." They got the guns but we got the numbers! "
Regards...
Quote from: casman1969 on January 10, 2009, 02:56:37 PM
GROUND CONTROL TO AMERICAN PATRIOTS...
As of Jan 8, 2009 the entire and I repeat, the ENTIRE Congress has, without objection, confirmed BHO as our new POTUS elect. This an act of TREASON and is deserving of our Constitutional right to rovolt. It has begun. All that is left now is to appoint a PEOPLES court to evict these usurpers and bring back the Constitutional rule of law. Those of you with the nuts to join may contact me as we are now in the final stages.
Those of you who are party to this treasonous act, know this.., America is NOT going to take it any more. MIB.., SCREW YOU, Get your new high tec weapons out and use them. One such action will be the rallying cry.
Thank you and may God have mercy on our souls.
Carl
This is a very dangerous thing you are doing here. You are actually trying to organise a revolt against the government. This, as far as I know, is illegal in just about any country in the world.
What more, you are using this forum to push your goals, something that puts Stefan's position in jeopardy. This is not the way we operate here and you would be well advised to pull your head in and get the fuck out of here.
Hans von Lieven
Delusional paranoid wacko
This is the correct forum for this type of discussion.
Those of you from other countries can only imagine the freedom our Constitution provides. One of which is FREE SPEECH. Probably why so many want to be here and would break our laws to do it.
We are a Nation of laws and base what we do upon those laws even when we call for the removal of our elected representatives because they refuse to uphold them. No one in the US is above this law, or so we thought.
One of those laws provides for the DECLARATION of Martial Law. There are certain provisions, very precise provisions that allow for its implementation. It is unclear why this government is preparing for its use but it should be clear to all that they expect events to unfold that will make it necessary. Food riots, collapsed ecomony, God only knows what the future will bring but is it not incumbent on us to be prepared in case this should happen? It is required that our elected representatives uphold and defend our Constituon and when they do not, they must be replaced by those who will. We are witness to the greatest Constitutional crisis this country has seen since Woodrow Wilson. That's when he, knowingly committed treason and addressed the country to say as much. Then, like now, the people were asleep and allowed for the birth of the FED. All banking and monetary issues we have today can be traced directly to that amendment.
While the rest of the sheeple sit in there hypnotized trance, watching football and anything else the MSM wants to shove down there throats, not the least of which is socialism, some have remained awake and vigilant. Not everything revolves arround the indivual persuit of happiness.., sometimes there is a greater good that needs to be done and that sometime is NOW. There is a difference between upholding the Constitution and SHREDDING it and I for one will not stand for this blatant usurping of this document.
Crazy, Wacko? Here, you are entiteled to your beleif and many a brave soldier has fought and died to make absolutely certain you excercise that beleif without fear of reprisal.
Does the word REVOLT make you nervous? How the hell do you think this country was started? What form, what shape does it take.., now that's the million dollar question but we have the right to discuss it and if needed act upon it. We also have the right to gather in numbers and make damn sure our voices will be heard. Can you say that about your country? Probably not.
And what of this web site? Stephan has made it possible for all of us to discuss multiple views in addition to the heartfelt desire to find and bring to the public "Free Energy". He does not censor many posts and for that I say THANK YOU! I mean that.
Just how revolutionary would it be considered to make public a Free Energy Device? What lengths would the powers that be go too to make sure it was never revealed. Me thinks you know the answer and it is why so many here live in a pranoid state because they think they may have discovered it. Yes, it would collapse the fragile economies of many a Nation including ours. But in the end, would we not be better off for having done this? That, after all, is why any of us are here. So don't worry your liitle brains over such trivial matters and don't be afraid. Fear is by itself a self fulfilling state of inaction.
So go ahead and be afaid but count me out. I and many like me will do what is required to make sure that the rest can go on living the life we have come to expect but know this. You don't always get what you want and nowhere in our Constituion does it gaurantee you the right to succeed. It only gives you the opportunity!
My post was to see how many (if any) Americans are out there and would give up there lives to defend our freedoms. Seems that number is depressingly low. Even Washington was not beyond these negative thoughts when he led his troops into battle but did not allow himself much of that.
Live free or die!
Choose your poison.
www.wethepeopleusa.ning.com try it, you might find some interesting reading...
I think that what most people worry about during the declaration of martial law is:
* The tyrannical unchecked abuses of authority figures as so graciously portrayed in almost every Hollywood movie since..Hollywood began creating movies.
* Rampant violence ..martial law causing it, or it causing martial law - and the ever paradoxical concept of peace attempting to come to that auto-exacerbating situation.
* Injustice - whether it's a lack of rights or impositions, such as slavery or the deliberate disenfranchisement of the people whereupon martial law is declared.
* General terror or uncertainty. Not having any knowledge of a situation makes people prone to panic. Having the military run around with guns makes the whole thing look like a mexican stand-off.
By practice and through history, when government declares this type of situation it is as if there's been a affirmation of unrest. As if to say that "There's going to be unrest; and there's going to be cooperation"... and polarity among the populace ensues whereby 'trash' is thrown out and 'treasures' are saved. Consider the situation which occurred in Rwanda; there was escalation and then total civil war.
The confusion that takes place in martial law is determining what's really happening. If martial law is declared by a couping military - then it's automatically invalid - they're waging war on their own people and their declaration is void; all supporters are conspirators, they're the enemy they are so willing hunt and they're essentially the very thing the idea of martial law attempts to stop - hence why I call it an autoexacerbating paradox.
Declaration of martial law should inherently be temporal - posted this before, i'll quote myself here again;
Reply #9 on: December 31, 2008, 02:23:08 AM here - http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6428.msg147037#msg147037 (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6428.msg147037#msg147037)
QuoteMartial law is not a due process - it's an affirmation of a lack thereof.
Having said that, it stands to reason that there should be no permanence to martial law. In fact, I believe that civility is a conspiring of like minded people to be civil, martial law is simply a situation where this civility has eroded to a point of having no defined 'due process' amongst people.
Looting, rampant violence, gross abuses of human rights, ...if martial law is enacted, which it arguably has been for a time now, then it should be used, spent, and discarded for the sake of remedying these grievances. If there were ever a time to uphold the constitution, it's during martial law. After all, it's declared in order to protect the people, the people being the power, and the interaction between these people their civility - all of which constitute a declaration of ideals as a constitution; this constitution not to be trampled upon.
During the crisis, the real question that evolves is is it the insurrectors or the authority who's insurrecting? And this is where the paradox begins.
When I see my neighbors dragged dead from their houses for having observed their constitution rights, I will no longer be a civil person...seeing as how civility is something upheld between people... I must not be in a civil situation; the only thing that I can hope to do is restore civility. And having said that - not knowing how to restore civility means not knowing whether i'm being cooperative or if i'm insurrecting when it looks like a tyrant is couping or a tyrant is being overthrown.
A tyrant would use this paradox of fear to exacerbate the situation. Terrorism is the artifice of tyranny, there is no doubt about it.
Be civil. There's no doubt, that through history, martial law has become a flotsam of injustice for people.
Does anyone have a link to the laws that we're supposed to abide by during martial law? I can't rightly follow them if there are none - the general idea though seems to be to bend over and cope like a soldier - which i don't have to huge a problem with i'f i'm treated with respect; the biggest problem I have is not being utilized efficiently.
Time and time again, i've asked if when or if I join the armed forces, if I'll get a job in the service utilizing my current life skills, and the answer is consistently "No, you'll go and do what you're told, it may just so happen that you do get to use your skills."
...and this is the huge foulup that US military service has become. When they need cannon fodder, they'll come looking for it. The next savior could die in the service, or he/she could be gunned down during race riots.
I think there are still peaceful ways to change society to make ita better world,
especially via free energy devices.
Then surely soon the money system will change too automatically
and society will get less greedy.
So please don´t spread violence or hate as it only causes more violence and hate.
Many thanks for your understanding.
Regards, Stefan.
Quote from: hartiberlin on January 11, 2009, 10:26:08 PM
I think there are still peaceful ways to change society to make ita better world,
especially via free energy devices.
Then surely soon the money system will change too automatically
and society will get less greedy.
So please don´t spread violence or hate as it only causes more violence and hate.
Many thanks for your understanding.
Regards, Stefan.
Even I can't stress this enough!
;D
That's correct Harti.
First, we exaust all and I do mean all, avenues of peacefull redress. You may not think, based on my previous posts, that I beleive this but I do. Right now the actions of a minority in this country, who are willing to work through this crisis, are having a profound impact on the majority. Everyone wants a peacefull resolution including myself but is it possible? Maybe blood needs to be spilt? More realisticly it will end up being a combination of the two. I am not advocating the violent overthrow of this Nation, quite the contrary. All that is needed now is for Americans to wake up and see what's happening. From there begins the correction.
It is my humble opinion that everything sarts at the State level. We have mechanisms in place to peacefully remove our Federal Representatives and replace them with stuarts of our law. This is the correct step at the local level will and gain feet at the national level with the first such removal.
Time, however, is of the essence as we are experiencing a downward spiral that none of us have any power to control. It is and has been orchestrated over many decades to bring us to this point so that the several thousand power brokers can expand their base and drive us further into insolvency and eventually, servitude. It is not a question of if but when that will occur.
Do your own research and you will be left to draw your own conclusions. I have and I do now more fully understand the agenda.
To those of you who are still fiddling with the idea that you can "patent", for your own gain, some "free energy device, forget it. The cards (house of cards) are stacked against you. Surely you realize this.
So take Hartis' challenge and openly post all succesfull inventions/replications because in the end, money will mean NOTHING! The clock is ticking.., can you hear it?
From a Paul Revere wanabe.
Just so you know how we persue this in a way you will all find interesting. Here is my web site with updates to follow. Unfortunately, it will take time to raise the money for the Constitutional Attorney and then to prepare the case and as you know, the wheels of justice are SSSSSLLLLLOOOOOOWWWW!
Every avenue will be explored.
http://www.riseupforamerica.com/
Now, if think this is "WACKO", hold onto your panties..,
I was not aware that there are16 lawsuits filed challenging Obama's citizenship...and by extension the validity of his election.
Regards...
I have never been to Israel but my guess is the psychopath Israelis live in a permanent state of martial law.
Another reason to kick the Israelis out of America.
Cap_Z_ro,
That is the point! Most people don't know anything about this man and he has already spent $800,00.00 to keep from producing a $12.00 birth certificate. You can't even get a drivers license with what he has shown????
So at least I have enlightened one person today.., HOORAAY!!!
Now I've only got to get a couple hundred million to WAKE UP.
You'd be surprised, or maybe not, to know that millions are doing what I'm doing though not on the State level.
tick tock, tick tock...
Brian334,
You, freind, need to visit http://www.rense.com . There you will find all the Isreali info you could possibly want.
" So at least I have enlightened one person today.., HOORAAY!!!
Now I've only got to get a couple hundred million to WAKE UP.
You'd be surprised, or maybe not, to know that millions are doing what I'm doing though not on the State level. "
I hope this doesn't take the shine off your HOORAAY!!! moment casman...but as far as I was concerned Obama backed up against the measuring stick when I he attended a pre-election Bilderberg meeting.
Are you certain millions are rallying...I'd really like to believe there are that many on to the scam.
Regards...
Aw shucks Cap_Z_ro,
Just take a little time to look at the links on my web site and you'll get a feeling just how many of us there are. As for you last post, I was aware that he attended that meeting and that alone constitutes removal. For more info on that you might want to visit www.Prisonplanet.com , Alex Jones does daily broadcasts over the internet and is quite informative. Also where I found out about BHO's attendance to the Beideberg meeting.
Jones has some cutting edge stuff, thats for sure...his bombastic baptist preacher oratory style grates on my ears though...coming off as a 'knowitall' and attacking things he knowledge of does nothing for the cause either.
I only saw the Obama video on your site...I'll have to take another look.
Regards...
Can't listen to him for very long but he is a fighter. Plenty of info for those who wish to investigate.
Are you fmiliar with Lindsey Williams? If so, you can visit another of my sites at http://www.Marchforyourcountry.com . Had him down to do a speech here when gas was at $4.00 a gal.
He's coming out with some new info on the 14th.
O.K. folks, it has begun.
http://www.rense.com/general84/martial.htm
Yes this is about Martial Law.
The Obama situation goes much deeper, and no, I am not a racist but I do believe in the Constitution. Not too long after he decided to run for President, all of his school records were sealed...no one can view them. What is the purpose for this? If you went to Harvard, would you want your records sealed? No, of course not. Well, you would if you went there on a foreign aid scholarship that you got by swearing an affidavit that you were from another country in order to get the money. But now, you want to run for President and that would not look so good so.....they get sealed, by your own order.
On his application for the bar association, it asks if you have EVER used an alias. He answered NO. But yet, (I don't have all of the names he has used in his lifetime, but they are easily found) he has used at least 5 different names. Now, when you lie on your bar association application, this is grounds for permanent disbarment.
When he went to Hawaii to visit his ailing grandmother, funny thing is, he just happened to "stop by" the office of vital statistics and serve them with paperwork that "SEALED" his birth records, or lack thereof, from ANYONE who wanted to check them.
SanFran Nan (Pelosi) is already on the record saying that that stupid clause in the Constitution is very outdated and was written too many years ago to be important anymore. She also said she feels she has the power to over ride it without making an amendment. This kind of stuff scares the crap out of me because others agree with her. There is a reason that clause for being American born is in the Constitution and it is NOT outdated and no one can "over rule" it with out an amendment.
And, actually, I believe there are 17 separate lawsuits challenging Obama's right to even run for the office. Any one that does not believe any of this, go to Heritage.org and request a free copy of the US Constitution. (even free shipping) It is a nice document and good to read. It is plain and simple and easy to understand. All current amendments are in there as well. I have over 18 years in the school system for learning and I have never ever read it until I got my own copy a few months ago. Sure, I knew some of it, but not all.
Anyway, this is serious stuff here.
Bill
Yeah Bill...its real interesting how they omitted the most important piece of paper in the united states from the education of its citizens...nothing about our bill of rights taught in Canada either.
Its almost as if they don't want us knowing the value of our rights and the importance of protecting them.
The election of foreign entity Obama signifies the successful overthrow of the government 'by the people' ...California is governed by the son of a German SS officer - the Bush family financed Hitler...its a genertional incestuous family affair.
Also worth noting, re North American Union scheme, Obama's first official state visit will be with Canadian PM Stevious Harper...possibly to pick up some tips on people persuading passed down from Harper's mentor, former Nazi hall of famer in the builders category, Leo Strauss.
Regards...
@ Cap:
You know, it is sad, but you can't make this stuff up. I know you know I don't believe in all of the tie ins that possibly you do but, for crying out loud, the ones I do believe in are bad enough by themselves!!! This actually amounts to a take over of our country by a foreign person, or persons unknown. The EXACT thing the founding fathers tried to prevent and warned us about. Even Arnold looked into having folks amend the Constitution so he might run, but, he got no support as he is a Republican, although he is not conservative at all, heck, he can't be considering the state he is gov. of.
So now Nancy says...Hey, no problem, I can over rule that! In ref. to Obama just in case one or more of these cases makes it to the Supreme Court. Again, I am not a racist as I don't believe you are either. If Arnold were in Obama's shoes, I would still be saying the same things I am now. We either go by the Constitution or we don't.
Anyway, good post and I agree with you.
Bill
Boy, its hard to keep track of the lies and deception without a chart...I forgot about the constitutional challenge of Aahnold "Kennedy".
And now that Caroline Kennedy is looking for the Senate seat "Billary" vacated, I am reminded that she pulled strings to ensure that Ralph Nader was excluded from a Democratic leadership debate.
In so doing, adding to the bad Kennedy Karma bought down upon the clan her rum running grandfather Joe...who was a profiteer/thief in the orchestrated stock market crash of 1929.
And I agree Bill...the connections in your face are alarming enough...but what going on behind the scenes is far far more sinister.
Let us not forget...we are dealing with criminally insane sociopaths here.
Regards...
Cap_Z_ro,
I have added a letter sent to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It is well worth the read.
http://www.riseupforamerica.com/militaryspeaksout.html
That letter carries a lot of impact casman...would you mind if I were to post in other forums I visit ?
Thanks for caring enough to put yourself out there...with due consideration to the inherent risks of becoming a target.
Regards...
Not a problem Cap,
My site is meant to be spread as far and wide as possible. Yeah I know I've got that red target painted on my back but then again, doesn't everyone who considers themselves to be Patriotic?
I'm trying to figure out how I can best advertise the need for "people of money" to step forward and help
fund this project. Is there a SOROS out there for us? I can't answer my own question but will keep moving forward and do as best I can with what God gave me.
Know this people, when we DO get our country back, the doors to forbidden technologies will be opened and that is the tie-in to this site and another of my quests.
My Big-Wheel 7' pulse motor has been on hold while I do my Patriotic best.
USSA Government now attacking Constituional Amendments I, II and XXII. They are completely out of control. Bush implements psuedo martial law in Washington by shutting it down for inauguration and putting up an armed barrier arround it.
Check out the latest additions...
http://www.riseupforamerica.com/totallyoutofcontrol.html
God have mercy on us all.
WEBSITE BLOCKED
Have any of you news from your areas? What's going on in your town?
Anything interesting related to Martial Law? Is the US Military training in town?
Frog
A cop drove down my street today.
I almost croaked.
This is CRAZY... We are an upper middle class family with plenty of money and investments, both of us are educated. We are send our children to college. We obey the laws of the land. We pay our mortgage. We pay taxes. I served my country in the Army. My step father is a Marine. My Grand Father served in WWII and on the border patrol and in Politics. My great grand father was in politics in california and helped to establish highways that linked states. We have a long line of support of our country, until now. Yesterday my son and I watched 5 (FIVE) flybys over our neighborhood of a BLACK UNMARKED HELICOPTER, UH1. We just stood there in total disbelief. WTF. I kept circling our neighborhood for over an hour. I'm no conspiracy nut, but after all the research I've done since July of 2007, I'm now totally convinced that these conspiracy nuts aren't spewing tall tales.
Yeah, I just updated it and my web site host is having trouble (lol). Contacted them and they are working on it. Try back later (if they haven't yanked me)...
I don't know if the site is blocked but I can't get into it...something is afoot methinks.
Regards...
O.K. folks. What we have here is a denial of service curiously, just before the inauguration they are shutting down ANYone who voices concern over Barry Soetoros' inauguration. Pardon me while I Pursue this...
We're back up... YEAHHH
You can now view what I sent earlier.
No answer yet on why it went down. Maybe I was getting a wee bit paranoid there but what a coincidence.
Share with freinds while you can.
Still don't care?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdYILnUyALs
I really wish they would have left out the religious references and stuck with what we really know.
All people need to be reached with the message...not just "christians".
The mechanical Stephen Hawkins-esque narration didn't help eitther.
Barry Soetoros...wasn't he the guy that played Greg Brady on the Brady Bunch ?
Regards...
VIDEO NO LONGER AVAILABLE
Its still good on my end frog...did you try it more than once ?
Regards...
Have a look at who made the video: http://www.saintbirgitta.com/
nuff said.
Hans von Lieven
you all know anything about this video?
Aussie FEMA Camps IN USE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5MfTlZzAU4
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on January 17, 2009, 03:47:20 PM
Barry Soetoros...wasn't he the guy that played Greg Brady on the Brady Bunch ?
Barry William Blenkhorn (born September 30, 1954), known professionally as Barry Williams, is an American actor best known for his role as Greg Brady in the ABC television series The Brady Bunch.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Williams
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: frog on January 17, 2009, 05:31:25 PM
you all know anything about this video?
Aussie FEMA Camps IN USE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5MfTlZzAU4
What a lot of crap!
The footage shown is old footage of the Woomerah detention centre, a place where illegal aliens are processed and convicted foreign criminals awaiting deportation are kept. There are NO Australians in there apart from the guards.
Get real!
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 17, 2009, 05:48:46 PM
What a lot of crap!
The footage shown is old footage of the Woomerah detention centre, a place where illegal aliens are processed and convicted foreign criminals awaiting deportation are kept. There are NO Australians in there apart from the guards.
Get real!
Hamns von Lieven
This is why I asked the question.... I do not live in Australia but I know a lot of people on this board do, so I posted the question.
They got the FEMA concentration camps stuff right...they just believe the devil is behind everything...when in all likelihood god, the devil, etal, were just aliens on an
'away mission', banging the locals like on Startrek.
Their 'prime directive' really meant primal urges.
Regards...
I heard so many independent reports on the FEMA camps, its hard to dismiss.
And Hans...I knew Barry S was purported to be an Obama alias. :)
Just me trying to be funny again...comedy can be dangerous.
Regards....
LOL ;D
Sorry, I missed the joke the first time around, must be the late night last night.
Hans
I think he may have nailed Mrs.Brady also...Barry #1 that is. :)
Regards...
I thought she was a dyke. ???
Hans von Lieven
If she was, it was only part time - from what I hear...making her a 'dick van dyke'. :)
Regards...
Cap is correct. I saw an interview with Florence Henderson a long time ago and she admitted that, after being pursued for a long time by "Greg", she finally gave in. Now that would have made a great episode.
Bill
Bill, I swear this is all gonna give me nightmares...I hated the Shhow - but my brothers and sisters loved it...rerun after rerun after rerun...after rerun
And it just occurred to me hans, it was the guy who played the father [Mike Brady] who was gay in real life.
Regards...
Yes, I believe he actually died of AIDs complications if I am not mistaken.
Bill
A not so Brady ending...to borrow a phrase.
Only humor intended, no disrespect meant.
Regards...
Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 17, 2009, 09:20:23 PM
Cap is correct. I saw an interview with Florence Henderson a long time ago and she admitted that, after being pursued for a long time by "Greg", she finally gave in. Now that would have made a great episode.
Bill
Well Bill,
Someone's gotta put a finger in the dyke or we all drown ;D groan..............................
Hans
Hans:
I am still laughing so hard I can barely type!!!! Good one!!
Bill
Somehow, I don't think Barry used his finger.
Regards...
Long, but a good read:
http://billstclair.com/blog/stories/handgun.html
Found out about the choppers over my neighborhood:
Our police/dhs officers are using an old strip mine for a staging and training area. It's located about a half mile from our house.
Latitude 33°32'44.16"N
Longitude 112°18'15.21"W
The strip mine was purchased by the city that borders our area a couple months back, they are using it for a centralized "Training Center". They have a live fire range, firefighting training facility...blah, blah blah. They brought in 2 BlackHawk helicopters on Monday, scared the crap out of me when they flew over.
Frog,
Are you in the Tuscon area? If so, you are already aware of this one...
http://www.opednews.com/articles/MYSTERIOUS-PRISON-BUSES-IN-by-Ellen-Brown-090122-266.html
A reminder to all Americans here. We are the 4th branch of government and if we do not use our rights, we will loose them.
http://www.riseupforamerica.com
Quote from: casman1969 on January 29, 2009, 01:18:14 PM
Frog,
Are you in the Tuscon area? If so, you are already aware of this one...
http://www.opednews.com/articles/MYSTERIOUS-PRISON-BUSES-IN-by-Ellen-Brown-090122-266.html
A reminder to all Americans here. We are the 4th branch of government and if we do not use our rights, we will loose them.
http://www.riseupforamerica.com
I read a similar article a few weeks ago. This crap is way out of hand. The news around the country is crazy! I would have never thought this could happen in America. My daughter is in med school at U of A, and this scares the crap out of me. The TRAINING CENTER is in a suburb of Phoenix around my house and a couple hundred others. WTF?
Sorry to hear that Frog, closest to the camps will be the first to enter. I guess America is still deep asleep and won't wake up until they are being loaded on the railcars and busses you've already seen.
Any chance you could get some pics so I could post? I'd be very interested in using this info for the first "We the People" Grand Jury.
Funny how spineless peolple become (not you) when faced with these truths...
Another link for reference...
http://www.infowars.com/new-legislation-authorizes-fema-camps-in-us/
And now comes the attack---
http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2009/012009/01292009/440685