Psychopaths murder without conscious.
Serial killers murder because they like it.
Murder is the ultimate power.
So my question is do the power crazed Israelis murder because they are psychopaths or serial murders?
I think the Israelis are both serial killers and psychopaths.
I think you are an idiot. The Israelis are defending themselves. Those terrorist assholes have it coming and it is about time the Israelis did something about it. Maybe this time they will do the job right. How would you like it if rockets just starting coming down on your home? Or one day you are going to work and some wacko gets on it and blows the shit out of it? I hope they wipe out everything in Gaza, leave no one standing. Oh sure you are gonna say there are innocent people there, yes there are, they should have done something about the terrorists themselves from ever getting power or they should have left a long time ago. I don't see the west bank launching rockets. I am sick of these bleeding hearts saying it is Israel's fault. If you were in the majority back in 1941, we would be speaking German right now. Ok, awaiting your response.
Mark
P.S. this site is about free energy, how about we find it and we can stop all the ruthless killings everywhere that are over oil??
Ok maybe I shouldn't call u an idiot as I don't know you but I am fired up about this and all you hear about is "poor palestinans" and Israel is sooo bad.
Quote from: Mark69 on January 05, 2009, 04:08:37 PM
P.S. this site is about free energy, how about we find it and we can stop all the ruthless killings everywhere that are over oil??
Ok maybe I shouldn't call u an idiot as I don't know you but I am fired up about this and all you hear about is "poor palestinans" and Israel is sooo bad.
there is no need for war PERIOD,.....if you want some free energy stick some solar panels up or a wind gen and learn to use what you need,...who the hell really needs a 42 inch tv, or a V8 to get from a to b.
..people are just greedy.
G'day all,
I am no apologist for Israel, far from it. On the other hand it is difficult to see what other options are available to them.
The only effective weapon against a ruthless killer is another ruthless killer. That's why police carry guns.
I would like to see your reaction Brian if some arsehole suicide bomber blew up your kids or if some idiot lobbed a missile into your house. Having grown up in wartime I know the feelings associated with seeing a mass of mangled bodies and burning houses, regardless of the circumstances that led to it. What we are seeing is a vicious circle that no-one seems to know how to stop.
Hans von Lieven
no use starting a discussion - everybody has his or her own beliefs, it might end in fights (i guess it is designed to)
a picture says more than a thousand words
...and there are children dying - Mark 69 do you have parents? did they love you?
Serial killers, Psychopaths, Nazis, Israelis, always blame there victims for what they do.
So do wife betters.
hey reada, they made their bed. Tell me this, my parents would do what was necessary to keep me and the family safe if attacked. That is the meaning of love. That is what Israel is doing. Would yours?
Anyway change isn't going to happen overnight, they have been fighting for thousands of years. The only way change will happen is to stop teaching hate to each generation, or as the radical muslims see it, to wipe out their enemy so none exist. Who are they going to come after next if they wipe out the Israelis? Yup, the Christians. Maybe that is you, reada. It is me.
There was a peace plan that was being worked on, it wasnt the Israelis that broke the peace.
Mark
Quote from: Mark69 on January 05, 2009, 06:42:19 PM
Tell me this, my parents would do what was necessary to keep me and the family safe if attacked. That is the meaning of love.
Sorry to interupt, but don't you think any other parents will do the same thing. Try to keep their family save.
What happened if your "beloved country" are invaded and divided as what they are doing it now over there. Will you stop the invader or just let them be?
Have you suffer what they suffered? We only see what the media want us to see. There are more "story" than what you want to believe out there.
People who don't learnt from their past don't make the history.
And please don't judge people by their religion.
p/s: i think people are afraid of what they don't know but they are terrifying of what they know, the truth
I think a picture is worth many of Words.
This one says it all and if you care to read the TALMUD their Bible you may find some of the missing or diluted Answers.
Professor
quote author=reada link=topic=6476.msg148248#msg148248 date=1231190832]
no use starting a discussion - everybody has his or her own beliefs, it might end in fights (i guess it is designed to)
a picture says more than a thousand words
...and there are children dying - Mark 69 do you have parents? did they love you?
[/quote]
Call me a dreamer...but I wonder what would happen if we made our handlers remove all borders...and allowing people to settle where ever they wish ?
Regards...
Sorry Professor, but the Talmud is NOT the bible of the Jews.
The bible of the Jews is the Torah, sometimes called the Pentateuch, which comprises the first five chapters of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.
The Talmud is essentially a book containing oral tradition, including a set of instructions of how to live according to interpretations of the Torah by scholars. A bit like the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church.
Hans von Lieven
Proove me wrong professor - anywhere in the talmud is there a dialog between rabbis that says _K_I_L_L_ Children? If the jewish would live the talmud they would have every option to 'free' their from the british 'bought' land from the palestinian, even peacefull options but ... . Why is this? What is the 'real' problem. Israel has so many 'friends' the even could buy new land for the palestinians or give them Presents to leave - but they just kill what a stupidity, did mankind learn anything the last 2000 years?
Mark 69 listen to the guy in the middle of the clip - Professor of Physics - Palestinian Christian Nonviolence Leader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynWjYHP91gA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynWjYHP91gA)
Guys what is your Problem ? its not about FUCKIN' Religion it is about Pain someone is doing to someone else - dont you answer they shoot rockets! Dont you! ISRAEL is violating Human Rights! Rights we all agree upon.
When does the propaganda for Peace start and the Propaganda for Dividedness end?
The "leaders" in Israel, as well as the US, Russia, Brittan, and Canada etal, are not interested in peace.
They are creating and perpetuating wars = depopulation = greater control.
All these religious excuses are just red herrings, to distract people from the real game...oppression and domination.
Regards...
Just my 2 cents worth
Not a matter of if, but when.
As sure as the sun rises, so to an invasion of Israel by armed Arab hordes in their millions will desolate the Zionist state.
If there are doubts as to whether six million jews ..bla...bla...bla >in the holocast .....Then rest assured, this upcoming Islamic invasion of Isreal will spare no man, woman, child or beast.
World War 3 will start because of Jews / Israel and jewish United states
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/repute.htm
If it isnt about religion, why does Iran, run my radicals, talk about wiping about Israel? The radicals believe that in there Koran that anyone who isnt muslim is an infadel and if cant be converted is to be killed. Remember what they use to brain wash them to do suicide bombings....promises of marytrdom and 100 or whatever virgins waiting for them in "their heaven".
I tell you what I think is going on is this...the price of oil dropped so much that the Iranians need more cash, so they supplied Hamas w/ the rockets to provoke Israel to attack back which now will raise the price of oil back up and so they dont have to attack them and cause any damage to their country.
Mark69
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NOR20070120&articleId=4527 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NOR20070120&articleId=4527)
;)
btw: Cap-Z-ro you're right in everything you say - i'm just not convinced that some people cannot be helped (does that make me christian?)
It is possibel to earn money with this?
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/520.html
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/519.html
Then: The Devil sitting in this System
GP
Die Völker werden nur in Hass aufeineander gehetzt um
dieses System aufrecht zu erhalten. Solange die Menschen
selbst dies nicht sehen und erkennen, werden diese immer
wieder von " sogenannten Vorgesetzten und Befehlsgeber "
missbraucht. Keder trägz selbst eine Schuld, für das was er
mitspielt
G.P.
What on Earth has this topic to do with this forum?
Please, go elsewhere to discuss such topics in public and keep this forum focussed.
Very informative links Gustav...Brasscheck is an excellent site.
@ reada,
"btw: Cap-Z-ro you're right in everything you say - "
When reading with an un-compromised thought process, the conclusions I reached are the only ones that made any sense at all.
" i'm just not convinced that some people cannot be helped (does that make me christian?)"
I believe everyone who wishes to be helped can be helped...but do not like to use descripters like 'christian' - because it means different things to different people.
If any...I prefer the term realist.
Historically, the clever have always manipulated the less clever...unfortunately too many times the 'clever' turn out to be criminally insane sociopaths.
Regards...
Quote from: robbie47 on January 06, 2009, 09:23:19 AM
What on Earth has this topic to do with this forum?
Please, go elsewhere to discuss such topics in public and keep this forum focussed.
and what are you ? , the free speech police ?.
....go on then , go and police all the topics on the forum here. good luck. :D
Borg...that those types of postings just indicate that there are still many out there that are not aware that all roads lead back to Rome..so to speak.
Regards...
The criminally insane Israeli’s are trying to start a war between America and Iran.
Because the criminally insane Israelis are trying to start a war between America and Iran, the crimmally insane Israelis should be kicked out of America.
;) I think this is the new reallity that awaits humans!
Its not about the Israelis or any other nation!
This is the final time for the NWO to try to hold on to their power!
The gouverment of Israel are just puppets in a larger game!
But the system is finnished!
Cheers! : http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2009/01/03/larouche-denounces-israeli-ground-invasion-gaza.html ;)
Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 06, 2009, 03:42:25 AM
Sorry Professor, but the Talmud is NOT the bible of the Jews.
The bible of the Jews is the Torah, sometimes called the Pentateuch, which comprises the first five chapters of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.
The Talmud is essentially a book containing oral tradition, including a set of instructions of how to live according to interpretations of the Torah by scholars. A bit like the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church.
Hans von Lieven
Ok Hans perhaps I tried to simplify things and likely you are right with your statement.
I always thought that the Torah is the modified watered down Version of their Bible because of all the hatred which is in the Talmud that remained well hidden to all other Religions.
I believe the first one to uncover and release the Text and existance of it was Hitler.
I might be wrong on that one as well though.
Similar to the Christian Bible which contains the OLD and the NEW Testament all in one Book.
The Old testament is not as kind but at least anyone was able to obtain it.
The same can not be said of the Torah which does not contain any part of the Talmud. Very Clever! Only in recent years someone brave enough posted it on the internet .Ten Years ago if you googled it you got nothing.
Now there are a variety of jewish groups denying the text of the Talmud saying that what was posted is all but a Lie.
I don't buy that.
Regardless what you call it Hans its Contents that they live by are a undeniable fact and defy all human rights and the life of any one else while excusing their right to kill..
Hans did you read its Content?It is deplorable to say the least ,it makes the Nazis look like Quire Boys
professor
Quote from: reada on January 06, 2009, 04:04:21 AM
Proove me wrong professor - anywhere in the talmud is there a dialog between rabbis that says _K_I_L_L_ Children? If the jewish would live the talmud they would have every option to 'free' their from the british 'bought' land from the palestinian, even peacefull options but ... . Why is this? What is the 'real' problem. Israel has so many 'friends' the even could buy new land for the palestinians or give them Presents to leave - but they just kill what a stupidity, did mankind learn anything the last 2000 years?
Mark 69 listen to the guy in the middle of the clip - Professor of Physics - Palestinian Christian Nonviolence Leader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynWjYHP91gA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynWjYHP91gA)
Guys what is your Problem ? its not about FUCKIN' Religion it is about Pain someone is doing to someone else - dont you answer they shoot rockets! Dont you! ISRAEL is violating Human Rights! Rights we all agree upon.
When does the propaganda for Peace start and the Propaganda for Dividedness end?
No it does not specify Children by itself as I remember .It just specifies ALL other than Jews which means Christians (Goyans) Moslems Chinese Indians Etc.,which would include the Chidren of all other Nations.
But I suggest you read it yourself.
Chi;l
Quote from: sevich on January 06, 2009, 07:46:43 AM
Just my 2 cents worth
Not a matter of if, but when.
As sure as the sun rises, so to an invasion of Israel by armed Arab hordes in their millions will desolate the Zionist state.
If there are doubts as to whether six million jews ..bla...bla...bla >in the holocast .....Then rest assured, this upcoming Islamic invasion of Isreal will spare no man, woman, child or beast.
World War 3 will start because of Jews / Israel and jewish United states
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/repute.htm
/quote]
AlI I can say to you that are right on Target.
Its been predicted and it is hard to change destiny.
Although the Antichrist has not shown its ugly face yet but I am sure that is not too far from now.
professor
I am sorry professor, but I have to disagree again.
The Talmud is not a secret text that some "brave soul published on the internet". The Talmud has been available in book form translated into a number of languages for a very long time. If you want to see an authoritative version look at: http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm
Unfortunately many so-called Talmud translations are around that have been doctored to suit antisemitic propaganda. That is not to say that it does not contain passages that are unpalatable to many. The Koran is not much better with its call to "spread Islam with the fire and the sword". But then again some Christian theological literature is equally abhorrent. The Bhagavad Gita drips with blood, so does the Gilgamesh Epos upon which most of this religious nonsense is founded.
So please, let's not single out the Jews because of some outdated theological nonsense that the world would be better of without.
Hans von Lieven
I'm amazed to see such comments here.
Not one post about Mugabe...no human rights violations there ???
My research partner is an Israeli.
He lives 25 kms away from Gaza.
So I'll tell you what.
I will set it up so that this Brian 334 can go to Israel to my friends house.
Brian 334 can then tell my friend and his family and extended family JUST WHAT HE THINKS OF THEM.
Brian can make a documentory of his experience.... ;D
It all nice and sweet to type words, but who will go and see my friend in Israel and tell him to his face WHY YOU HATE HIM SO MUCH.
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Harti....why are these topics not removed?
Isn't this an energy forum, or has it decended into a racist blog spot ???
Quote:
" Harti....why are these topics not removed?
Isn't this an energy forum, or has it decended into a racist blog spot "
I disagree...what I see here, is one racist guy posting vitriol...and the members pointing out the obvious flaws in that line of thought.
The world has a chance to grow via such open rational dialogue on well traveled forums like this one.
There is nothing like the expression of rational thoughts and ideas for changing ones thinking.
Regards...
Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 06, 2009, 05:51:02 PM
I am sorry professor, but I have to disagree again.
The Talmud is not a secret text that some "brave soul published on the internet". The Talmud has been available in book form translated into a number of languages for a very long time. If you want to see an authoritative version look at: http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm
Unfortunately many so-called Talmud translations are around that have been doctored to suit antisemitic propaganda. That is not to say that it does not contain passages that are unpalatable to many. The Koran is not much better with its call to "spread Islam with the fire and the sword". But then again some Christian theological literature is equally abhorrent. The Bhagavad Gita drips with blood, so does the Gilgamesh Epos upon which most of this religious nonsense is founded.
So please, let's not single out the Jews because of some outdated theological nonsense that the world would be better of without.
Hans von Lieven
Hans sorry if I offended your Belief.
I am a Christian and yes I am offended by what is written in the Koran the Talmud and other
Religions that preach Hatred.
Do you blame me for that?
Perhaps Only an Atheist would not care.
So what is your Solution to the Problem? Or do you not care?
Professor
Professor,
Atheists DO care, that's why they are atheists. Or have you forgotten the Spanish Inquisition, or Salem for instance, not to mention the Crusades. The list goes on. Christianity is no better.
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 06, 2009, 08:39:00 PM
Professor,
Atheists DO care, that's why they are atheists. Or have you forgotten the Spanish Inquisition, or Salem for instance, not to mention the Crusades. The list goes on. Christianity is no better.
Hans von Lieven
Hans your Mind seems to be made up and so is mine.
This conversation can not lead to anything productive.
You must have gone to a Uni Right?
I am assuming that because that is were most bright Boys get their Doctrine.
Cheers Mate
professor
.
Scotty,
I would never go to Israel, there are to many crazy people there. And they all have guns.
Quote from: professor on January 06, 2009, 07:39:53 PM
Hans sorry if I offended your Belief.
I am a Christian and yes I am offended by what is written in the Koran the Talmud and other
Religions that preach Hatred.
Do you blame me for that?
Perhaps Only an Atheist would not care.
So what is your Solution to the Problem? Or do you not care?
Professor
Christianity is not a particularly kind religion either. Just look at the concept of Hell. People are condemned to burn in terrible agony for all eternity for something as petty as not worshiping Jesus during their lifetimes. Two major issues come from this.
1. Why does god feel this deep need to be worshiped? How vain is that? If I created this whole world, along with some being in it, would I go around and say, "you MUST love and worship me, I demand it! If you do not, infinite pain for you!" What kind of a loving god thinks this way?
2. Why have a Hell? Now I know what the defenders say, and that is that Hell is the absence of God. But this is just a cop-out. If God is all-powerful and infinitely loving, it is in his power to make sure no part of the universe is out of his reach, so he can destroy hell in an instant if he wants to. So why does God allow hell to exist and allow his creations to suffer torture for all eternity for petty infractions?
Say what you want about the Old Testament, and surely it was a violent text, but at least there, once you died, God was done with you. It was not until the New Testament, and the loving and meek Jesus, that we get Hell and eternal damnation and torture.
“So why does God allow hell to exist and allow his creations to suffer torture for all eternity for petty infractions?â€
I guess to a psychopath Israeli murder is a “petty infractionâ€
Could hell by than slavery.I think we are in hell.
The ego is killing us.
Quote from: utilitarian on January 07, 2009, 11:23:19 AM
Christianity is not a particularly kind religion either. Just look at the concept of Hell. People are condemned to burn in terrible agony for all eternity for something as petty as not worshiping Jesus during their lifetimes. Two major issues come from this.
1. Why does god feel this deep need to be worshiped? How vain is that? If I created this whole world, along with some being in it, would I go around and say, "you MUST love and worship me, I demand it! If you do not, infinite pain for you!" What kind of a loving god thinks this way?
2. Why have a Hell? Now I know what the defenders say, and that is that Hell is the absence of God. But this is just a cop-out. If God is all-powerful and infinitely loving, it is in his power to make sure no part of the universe is out of his reach, so he can destroy hell in an instant if he wants to. So why does God allow hell to exist and allow his creations to suffer torture for all eternity for petty infractions?
Say what you want about the Old Testament, and surely it was a violent text, but at least there, once you died, God was done with you. It was not until the New Testament, and the loving and meek Jesus, that we get Hell and eternal damnation and torture.
To No.1
No one nor God forces you to worship him he has given us the freedom to do as we please...... I am surprised that you even had to asked such rudimentary question.
Neither will God interfere in mankind's decisions however he may cut our time short .
It all boils down are you willing to have a belief or not.
2
God has a Plan and he has Rules that he is not willing to Change just because you don't like them.
Tell me Do you have Kid's do you have Rules for them to follow do you punish them if they do not obey you?of course your hands are tyed it political incorrect to do so.Must you simply let them do whatever they feel doing, including Crime and murder? "Hell" you can call it Good or Evil Hell is just another expression.If there is good than there is evil if there is cold there is hot, Savy?
3
It becomes obvious that you have no conception of the Christian faith ,God sent us Jesus who died at our Hands yet God did not destroy those responsible as this was a planned action that god orchestrated sacrificing his own son to make a point.
This really has nothing to do with the current issue on hand and is really silly but being addressed I felt obliged to respond.
When the Time is up perhaps 2012 even you will know the truth, but perhaps by then its a bit to late for you to repent.There is only so much God will tolerate especially brutal murder of innocent women and children who unlike yourself will be cared for in a better world.
By the way I am not a Church going Bible pusher, just a Christian with a belief ,that of my own free will.
However I dare you to compare Christianity with the Torah or Koran so please read the
Talmud which singles out races unlike the Christian Bible and then we might talk again.
professor
Hi,
First the "Bible" was written 300 years after the supposedly "Jesus" era. It was written from stories and a few archives that were discriminatory used against everyone that did not think like the "High Priests" or "Popes". The story of Jesus was only used in a falsified document written after his supposed demise and most certainly come from the Egyptians mythology and adapted to control the peasants.
Second, the Bible was rewritten many times during the last centuries and adjusted for their benefit.
Please do not try to prove something by using false precepts. "God" is not of this Earth and most certainly "Alien" in nature.
The Bible is a fraud for most of it. An Atheist is someone who doesn't believe in your "Gods".
Take care,
Michel
Edited
Some how we got a bit off topic.
My issue is this. The psychopath Israeli’s are trying to start a war between America and Iran, because of that I think the psychopath Israeli’s should be kicked out of America.
Quote from: brian334 on January 07, 2009, 05:37:47 PM
Some how we got a bit off topic.
My issue is this. The psychopath Israeli’s are trying to start a war between America and Iran, because of that I think the psychopath Israeli’s should be kicked out of America.
If it attacks Iran, it will spread fast to engulf the globe. The domino effect.
Take care,
Michel
Quote from: professor on January 07, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
To No.1
No one nor God forces you to worship him he has given us the freedom to do as we please...... I am surprised that you even had to asked such rudimentary question.
Neither will God interfere in mankind's decisions however he may cut our time short .
It all boils down are you willing to have a belief or not.
2
God has a Plan and he has Rules that he is not willing to Change just because you don't like them.
Tell me Do you have Kid's do you have Rules for them to follow do you punish them if they do not obey you?of course your hands are tyed it political incorrect to do so.Must you simply let them do whatever they feel doing, including Crime and murder? "Hell" you can call it Good or Evil Hell is just another expression.If there is good than there is evil if there is cold there is hot, Savy?
3
It becomes obvious that you have no conception of the Christian faith ,God sent us Jesus who died at our Hands yet God did not destroy those responsible as this was a planned action that god orchestrated sacrificing his own son to make a point.
This really has nothing to do with the current issue on hand and is really silly but being addressed I felt obliged to respond.
When the Time is up perhaps 2012 even you will know the truth, but perhaps by then its a bit to late for you to repent.There is only so much God will tolerate especially brutal murder of innocent women and children who unlike yourself will be cared for in a better world.
By the way I am not a Church going Bible pusher, just a Christian with a belief ,that of my own free will.
However I dare you to compare Christianity with the Torah or Koran so please read the Talmud which singles out races unlike the Christian Bible and then we might talk again.
professor
Let me see if I have this straight. We have a choice whether to worship Jesus, but the penalty for the wrong choice, and a penalty that is widely publicized, is eternal torture. What kind of a choice is that? It is like someone threatening you with a hot iron, saying, do this, or I will burn your flesh. That is no choice at all. If god truly wanted mankind to make their own choice, he would not threaten such punishment. By the threat of Hell and its eternal and infinitely painful torture, God is affecting man's decision in a pretty severe manner.
Second, what kind of response is, "God has a Plan and has rules?" My whole point is that God's plan is not that of a loving god, but a petty and vengeful God. What kind of entity demands unconditional love and worship upon pain of eternal torture? That is not the action of a loving god. If that is God's plan, it is not a plan built on love and forgiveness. I challenge you to explain how the existence of Hell is consistent with a loving God. If you want to concede that God is not loving, but is in fact petty and cruel, well, then we have no further argument.
Third, let me see if this makes sense. God sent his son to die at our hands, which was a planned action he orchestrated, but somehow this action absolves us of our sins but also makes us indebted to God, because he sacrificed his son, right? How in the world does this make any sense at any level.
First, how is someone else dying for your infractions absolve you of anything? That's called scapegoating. Billy gets punished because Jenny misbehaves. Does this mean that Jenny is absolved? No way. That is an insult to any sense of justice and fair play. I know, I know, it's God's plan, right? Well it is a plan that is unjust and nonsensical.
Second, how fair is human sacrifice to begin with? What kind of sadistic being would stage a torture and killing of a human being, his son/creating whatever, for the purpose of what, exactly? Oh, because Eve got Adam to eat an apple? WTF, how is that fair?
Quote from: brian334 on January 07, 2009, 05:37:47 PM
Some how we got a bit off topic.
My issue is this. The psychopath Israeli’s are trying to start a war between America and Iran, because of that I think the psychopath Israeli’s should be kicked out of America.
Yes we are off the Subject Matter and I apologize for being the source but not the instigator of that.
It appears that there are some people that like us to change the subject by ways of provocation.
I had taken the bait,Line Hook and sinker. So please Utilitarian don't bother explaining away, something you will never want to understand. I have my belief and if it makes you happy, so be it, I don't expect you to have any at all.
Please just drop it! What is happening is Real and in real time not 300 years ago and the evidence can't be hidden ,neither can it be dismissed or explained away.
I am with you in full support on the Subject matter. Watch the Free speech TV Channel not CNN.
It is not about Religion or God but Greed ,Power and Domination all with the blessings or justification of and may I stand corrected by Hans and therefore Quote his interpretation
Quote:
"The Talmud is essentially a book containing oral tradition, including
a set of instructions of how to live according to interpretations of the Torah by scholars".
professor
In order to understand the psicopathic nature of jews one needs to learn about the Talmud which is the ultimate hate book.
A book full of hate to non-jews so great that blows one's mind.
It has teaching such as:
"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts."
Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b
"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honour the the dog more than the non-Jew."
Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30
"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form."
Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855
"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal."
Coschen hamischpat 405
"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs."
Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b
"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human."
Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b
"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog."
Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b
"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"."
Jore dea 377, 1
"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals."
Talmud Sanhedrin 74b
"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile."
Sepher ikkarim III c 25
"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah."
Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5
"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands."
Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b
"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God."
Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772
How does a Jew prepare for his crime?
Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Mary was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
Horrible Blasphemy Against Jesus Christ
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a. Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu (Jesus) was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"
Talmud Attacks Non jews beliefs
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that the Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.
Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.
Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.
Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.
Quote from: professor on January 07, 2009, 11:32:48 PM
Yes we are off the Subject Matter and I apologize for being the source but not the instigator of that.
It appears that there are some people that like us to change the subject by ways of provocation.
I had taken the bait,Line Hook and sinker. So please Utilitarian don't bother explaining away, something you will never want to understand. I have my belief and if it makes you happy, so be it, I don't expect you to have any at all.Please just drop it!
What is happening is Real and in real time not 300 years ago and the evidence can't be hidden ,neither can it be dismissed or explained away.
I am with you in full support on the Subject matter. Watch the Free speech TV Channel not CNN.
It is not about Religion or God but Greed ,Power and Domination all with the blessings or justification of and may I stand corrected by Hans and therefore Quote his interpretation
Quote:
"The Talmud is essentially a book containing oral tradition, including a set of instructions of how to live according to interpretations of the Torah by scholars".
professor
I take it you are unable to resolve the existence of hell with a loving God, then?
to get back to the main question:
"So my question is do the power crazed Israelis murder because they are psychopaths or serial murders?"
We may need to take a look at history in order to understand how to answer it properly.
~4000 years ago a man named Abraham was given a promise.
All the world would be blessed through his offspring.
The offspring is the KEY point to the whole deal going on today.
Torah:
The eldest son Ishmael (born out of wedlock to a servant girl) and the younger son Isaac (born from Abraham's wife)
qur'an:
The eldest son Ishmael (born from Abraham's wife)
God told Abram to whack his son as a sacrifice.
Torah: this is Isaac
qur'an: this is Ishmael
God would give some specified area of the middle east to the children of said son.
Torah: From the Nile to the river Euphrates.
qur'an: unspecified.
Jews and Christians believe the area between the Nile and the river Euphrates belong to the children of Issac (who's name was later changed to Israel)
muslims believe the land was given to the children of Ishmael.
American Native Indian believe that land doesn't belong to anybody. They fought over the things on the land...resources.
So the dispute is one of Title and Ownership of land.
or one that makes no since at all since there is very little resources on the land to fight over (if your an American Native Indian).
Why fight?
Jews to any non-jew within the specified area from Genesis: This is my land. Any attack on my people is unjustified and an act of war. Hence any act against my people is justified to protect our existence.
muslims to everybody else: Submit and pay a tax to be in our land or be killed.
Jews killing non-jews to protect their existence is no different than muslims killing non-muslims to protect their existence is no different than Christians killing non-Christians to protect their existence is no different than Native American Indians killing other tribes of Native American Indians to protect their existence is no different than hindu's killing non-hindu's to protect their existence is no different than Hitler killing non-white "perfect" people just because he's having a bad day is no different than Stalin killing millions of people because he was able to convince other millions that marxism is the way to go.
So to answer your question...
1. Self preservation: to me, is not considered Murder... The UN agrees. So does my US Constitution .... Wonder what an unborn baby feels about this...
2. Your "because" clauses of "they are psychopaths or serial murders" are nullified due to my first part answer.
Quote from: utilitarian on January 08, 2009, 09:44:13 AM
I take it you are unable to resolve the existence of hell with a loving God, then?
Sorry you can take it any way you like it
My mesage was that I no longer discuss this Matter with you,or any other Atheists,as you have made up your minds and for that you have my blessings. Besides this is "OFF Subject" as stated clearly in my last response, you may want to read it over again.
May God be with you.
professor.
Quote from: bugler on January 08, 2009, 09:27:28 AM
In order to understand the psicopathic nature of jews one needs to learn about the Talmud which is the ultimate hate book.
A book full of hate to non-jews so great that blows one's mind.
It has teaching such as:
"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts."
Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b
"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honour the the dog more than the non-Jew."
Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30
"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form."
Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855
"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal."
Coschen hamischpat 405
"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs."
Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b
"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human."
Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b
"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog."
Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b
"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"."
Jore dea 377, 1
"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals."
Talmud Sanhedrin 74b
"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile."
Sepher ikkarim III c 25
"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah."
Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5
"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands."
Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b
"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God."
Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772
How does a Jew prepare for his crime?
Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer with cows.
Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Mary was a : "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had with many men.
Horrible Blasphemy Against Jesus Christ
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a. Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu (Jesus) was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"
Talmud Attacks Non jews beliefs
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a in the world that the Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had with.
Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.
Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.
Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.
THANK YOU BUGLER I was not brave enough to post this and was just hinting, wanting others to find the Quotations for themselves.
Now that they can read them maybe if they have any sense they will hopefully draw their own conclusions.
professor
Quote from: professor on January 08, 2009, 02:37:31 PM
Sorry you can take it any way you like it
My mesage was that I no longer discuss this Matter with you,or any other Atheists,as you have made up your minds and for that you have my blessings. Besides this is "OFF Subject" as stated clearly in my last response, you may want to read it over again.
May God be with you.
professor.
Oh, so you would prefer to discuss how Israelis are serial killers and psychopaths? Have fun chatting with your neonazi buddies.
Quote from: utilitarian on January 08, 2009, 03:04:50 PM
Oh, so you would prefer to discuss how Israelis are serial killers and psychopaths? Have fun chatting with your neonazi buddies.
I will report you for that comment.
Read the subject Matter if you want to continue to discuss Religion I suppose you find yourself another Thread and another Victim.
This thread is "Are the Israelis serial killers and psychopaths?"which has nothing to do with the past or Neonazis the Suject Matter reflects a current Issue , you are obviously not very bright..
If you are to ignorant to understand the meaning of this thread or you don't like it then I don't understand what the Hell you are doing here. L E A V E !!!!!!!
Quote from: professor on January 08, 2009, 09:38:18 PM
I will report you for that comment.
Read the subject Matter if you want to continue to discuss Religion I suppose you find yourself another Thread and another Victim.
This thread is "Are the Israelis serial killers and psychopaths?"which has nothing to do with the past or Neonazis the Suject Matter reflects a current Issue , you are obviously not very bright..
If you are to ignorant to understand the meaning of this thread or you don't like it then I don't understand what the Hell you are doing here. L E A V E !!!!!!!
Do you just capitalize random words?
And yes, it has everything to do with racism. All religious texts have passages that can be interpreted as intolerant of other religions. The Talmud is no exception, though to be fair, some of the quotations above are out of context or inaccurate translations. But the Koran and both the New and Old Testaments are full of questionable passages. So what? Who cares? They are books of fairy tales; what's important is how they are currently used.
Radical muslims use the Koran to wage JIhad. Radical Christians use the Bible to blow up abortion centers. Radical Jews, well, not sure about that, but I am sure they did something bad at some point. But at any rate, Israel has gone to war many times and is currently at war, but I have not heard the Israeli politicians cite the Torah or the Talmud as justification.
I think you're just upset because Israel has a long and glorious history of kicking ass on its neighbors, but only as a response to provocations. Heck, all of Israel's neighbors thirst for the destruction of Israel. But they are all militarily inferior, and that drives them nuts. It's their own fault - their military is not disciplined. Even when supplied arms by the Soviets, they got the royal asskicking known as the Six Day War.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War)
Here is a particularly juicy tidbit:
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Israel's first and most critical move was a pre-emptive surprise attack on the Egyptian Air Force. Egypt had by far the largest and the most modern of all the Arab air forces, consisting of about 450 combat aircraft, all of them Soviet-built and with a heavy quota of top-of-the line MiG-21 capable of attaining Mach 2 speed. Initially, both Egypt and Israel announced that they had been attacked by the other country.
Of particular concern to the Israelis were the 30 Tu-16 “Badger†medium bombers, capable of inflicting heavy damage on Israeli military and civilian centers.[99] On 5 June at 7:45 Israeli time, as civil defense sirens sounded all over Israel, the Israeli Air Force (IAF) launched Operation Focus (Moked). All but 12 of its nearly 200 operational jets left the skies of Israel in a mass attack against Egypt's airfields. The Egyptian defensive infrastructure was extremely poor, and no airfields were yet equipped with armoured bunkers capable of protecting Egypt's warplanes. The Israeli warplanes headed out over the Mediterranean before turning toward Egypt.
Meanwhile, the Egyptians hindered their own defense by effectively shutting down their entire air defense system: they were worried that rebel Egyptian forces would shoot down the plane carrying Field Marshal Amer and Lt-Gen. Sidqi Mahmoud, who were en route from al Maza to Bir Tamada in the Sinai to meet the commanders of the troops stationed there. In any event, it did not make a great deal of difference as the Israeli pilots came in below Egyptian radar cover and well below the lowest point at which its SA-2 surface-to-air missile batteries could bring down an aircraft.
The Israelis employed a mixed attack strategy: bombing and strafing runs against the planes themselves, and tarmac-shredding penetration bombs dropped on the runways that rendered them unusable, leaving any undamaged planes unable to take off and therefore helpless targets for later Israeli waves. The attack was more successful than expected, catching the Egyptians by surprise and destroying virtually all of the Egyptian Air Force on the ground, with few Israeli casualties. Over 300 Egyptian aircraft were destroyed and 100 Egyptian pilots were killed.
Among the Egyptian planes lost were all 30 Tu-16 bombers, as well as 27 out of 40 Il-28 bombers, 12 Su-7 fighter-bombers, over 90 Mig-21's, 20 Mig-19's 25 Mig-17 fighters and around 32 assorted transport planes and helicopters. The Israelis lost 19 planes, mostly operational losses (mechanical failure, accidents, etc). The attack guaranteed Israeli air superiority for the rest of the war.
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Were the Israeli's serial killers and psychopaths? No, the Egyptians were just inept.
Wikipedia is jewisn owned and thus jewish propaganda.
http://judicial-inc.biz/wikipedia.htm
So any information yoiu find there is rubbish.
Quote from: bugler on January 10, 2009, 05:34:36 AM
Wikipedia is jewisn owned and thus jewish propaganda.
http://judicial-inc.biz/wikipedia.htm
So any information yoiu find there is rubbish.
So is CNN ABC Hollywood,the Medical, Educational and the Monetary System that feeds it all .
A Propaganda that is no different than that of the former Nazi's which we are doctrine d in to abhor.
Remember those in power or those winning a War will write the History Books.
What is going to happen to these current War Crimes and War Criminals that have bombed a School ,designated by the UN as a safe Place and gave the Israelis the GPS Coodinates ,Maps and Clear Instructions. Much like catching a Mouse you set a Bait then you spring the Trap , Zap....
People,Civilians ,Mothers and their children flocked to the so called Safe Place and then the Killers bombed it killing many innocent Civilians and wounding many more.
Oh I know the routine Lies like ... but there were Weapons of Mass destructions or a few terrorists hiding out.
B.S. even if there was,and according to the UN there was not,ask yourself if you sat in an Aircraft flying to your holiday Destination and it became known that there was a terrorist on Board would you expect to have this Aircraft blown up sacrificing your and other life's?
Come on..... even the Nazis did not do that 60 Years ago.There were many attempt to assassinate Hitler (Valkyre) etc. Do you think any of these Psychopaths would consider that? No of course not,
the Talmud allows the slaughter and since Jew shall not do harm to another Jew there will be no assassination attempts. Today its the Moslem's, tomorrow the Christian then perhaps the Chinese,
after having read the Talmud think about it, because you might be next.
This all is happening right now with the consensus of a Majority and obviously a few members of this forum that keep defending and justifying the actions of the Attackers.
Talk about Holocaust....you Guys should be ashamed.
Thomas Jefferson had it right.
professor
These guys are no more Jewish than Ernst Zundel...and its evident more than he have gotten caught up in the contrived drama...just as planned of course.
For whatever the reason people are failing to make the connection, that the same bunch that supported the Nazi's, are the very same bunch that they now refer to as Jews that own and control the media.
In World War II, BOTH sides of the Bush family invested money in Hitler's "Final Solution" for the Jews.
Just recently "President Bush" supported the right of the Jewish state to bomb populated areas of the ever shrinking Gaza strip.
So, for those scoring at home...
- on the one hand the Bush family supports killing Jews.
- and on the other hand " President Bush " supports Jews killing Palestinians.
Is it that the Bush family has a love hate relationship for the Jews ?
No, it is because they kill people off in groups which they first marginalize through media propaganda.
They will secretly initiate or support any plan for mass killing, because they cater the weaponry for all armed conflict...and openly discussed "population reduction"...another one of their "solutions" I suppose.
Regards...
Because Israeli psychopaths are trying to start a war between America and Iran, I think all Israelis should be kicked out of America.
America and Iran have been on a collision course for a very long time and it is not of America's doing.
In fact America has shown an enormous amount of restraint in spite of severe provocation. Nothing to do with Israel.
Hans von Lieven
This mess has nothing to do with Israel, Iran, the US, or any other country.
What it has to do with is the so called leaders(traitors to be precise) of these countries pretending they have issues between them, when in reality they are all in it together.
I saw a photo of Ahmadinijad(sp) a while back flashing the very same satanic hand gesture that all members of the Bush family and other illuminati members have been photographed using.
They write the script...and an all too willing and conditioned public robotically act out the scenes...no matter how twisted the role.
Once again I will close with a quote from a wise dead guy, Robert Homme..." Look up..look waaayy up."
Regards...
Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 10, 2009, 06:56:04 PM
America and Iran have been on a collision course for a very long time and it is not of America's doing.
In fact America has shown an enormous amount of restraint in spite of severe provocation. Nothing to do with Israel.
Hans von Lieven
Sorry Hans you are way of Course.
It has everything to do with Israel and the U.S.A.
Israel was scared of Iraq so they had the U.S. do the Job for them.(Falsified Intelligence Reports from Israel of Weapons of Mass Destruction )
Now the next Target is Iran and again Israel will use the U.S. and the Blood of the American People to remove the Thread.( What excuse will it be this time?) Oh Yes they are building Nukes like Israel !
When you give Israel nuclear weapons and dictate Rules to another Country that has their own set of Rules you might expect a reaction which you call provocation.
Let me make it quite clear that I do not support either Countries to be in the possession of Nukes.
However I can very well see Iraq's resentment and frustration . They are not stupid people.
Where is Israel's sophisticated and costly Weaponry come from ? Who is paying for it? Where is all the U.S. Money going to?
Who supports Israel and sanctions their atrocities? You must also know that U.S Military personnel can and is serving in the Israeli Forces.
Who owns the Federal Reserve Bank of the U.S.A. .................
Come on now Hans, I know you are a very intelligent Person your statement does not make much sense.
professor
Quote from: brian334 on January 10, 2009, 05:57:51 PM
Because Israeli psychopaths are trying to start a war between America and Iran, I think all Israelis should be kicked out of America.
Hi Brian
Here is a Article that was sent to me by E-Mail which I like to share with all of you.
Subject: Fw: Muslim Belief
Muslim Belief : or for that matter the Talmud belief,
if you substitute the Word "infidel" with the word "Goyan".
This is a true story and the author,Rick Mathes,is a well-known leader in
prison ministry.
The man who walks with God always gets to his destination.
If you have a pulse you have a purpose.
The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States ,especially in the minority races!!!
Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say.
The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam,complete with a video.
After the presentations,time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: 'Please,correct me if I'm wrong,but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'
There was no disagreement with my statements and,without hesitation, he
replied, 'Non-believers!'
I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of
Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?'
The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.'
He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'
I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope
John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee
them a place in heaven!'
The Imam was speechless!
I continued, 'I also have problem with being your friend when you and your
brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me!
Let me ask you a question:
Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say,the organizers and/or promoters of the Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the
Islamic Imam , and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.
In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the
President! I think everyone in the U.S. and Canada should be required to
read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized,
unless each of us send it on!
Professor, that one brought a tear to my eye. So very many are unaware of God's words regarding who is to be playing upon the world stage at this late hour. I highly recommend the following sources of information:
http://www.missiontoisrael.org/ishmael,edom,israel.php
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=257
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297062.shtml
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html
You see, both freemasonry and it's mother, babylonian judaism, revere the 6 pointed star of chemosh, the seal of solomon, and they both found their hope upon a solomon like figure to lead them in their 'hour of power'.......
http://www.hornes.org/theologia/mark-horne/what-is-the-worth-of-666-talents-of-gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdwmtwP2frw
“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, “He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS†- 1 Corinthians 3:19
TS
Quote from: TechStuf on January 10, 2009, 11:52:35 PM
Professor, that one brought a tear to my eye. So very many are unaware of God's words regarding who is to be playing upon the world stage at this late hour. I highly recommend the following sources of information:
http://www.missiontoisrael.org/ishmael,edom,israel.php
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=257
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297062.shtml
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html
You see, both freemasonry and it's mother, babylonian judaism, revere the 6 pointed star of chemosh, the seal of solomon, and they both found their hope upon a solomon like figure to lead them in their 'hour of power'.......
http://www.hornes.org/theologia/mark-horne/what-is-the-worth-of-666-talents-of-gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdwmtwP2frw
“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, “He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS†- 1 Corinthians 3:19
TS
Wow, who knew there were so many Jew haters on overunity.com? Give you guys a little rope and you all reveal yourselves. Hope your science is better than your history, though I doubt it.
Quote from: utilitarian on January 11, 2009, 12:24:10 AM
Wow, who knew there were so many Jew haters on overunity.com? Give you guys a little rope and you all reveal yourselves. Hope your science is better than your history, though I doubt it.
Yes Utilitarian, isn't it fascinating? Equally fascinating is the virulently antisemitic stance of those who are continually talking about peace and keep quoting the Bible at us.
Unfortunately levelheadedness and objective evaluation appears to be missing here as the idiotic question of the theme for this thread suggests.
The question "are the Israelis serial killers and psychopaths" is loaded. To suggest that a whole people had these kind of tendencies is stupid in the extreme and shows bias.
Heinrich Himmler would have been proud of the supporters of such an idea.
I am no supporter of war and aggression but let us be fair in our evaluation of what is happening and not convict a whole people on the basis of some stupid prejudice and doctrine.
Hans von Lieven
Come out of your programed stupor people.
The religious game board was made expressly to keep people busy fighting with each other until they get the noose around everyone's neck.
Get off the game board folks.
Regards...
In a perverted way when the psychopath Israelis slaughter Palestinians it is good for world peace.
Israelis are showing Americans how crazy they are.
I would like to see a poll taken in America, There would be one question.
Who do you think America should bomb Israel or Iran?
My guess is Israel would lose.
Brian's thread title is a question....one that MANY around the world are naturally asking themselves. It is human nature, unfortunately to judge populations by what they allow their LCD (lowest common denominator) to get away with. Just as many people nowadays are increasingly asking the question: "Are Americans vicious thugs who want to take over the world for their queen, Israel?"
It's all too easy to say "Israelis" "Americans" "Chinese" instead of parsing it down and identifying the real culprits, the usurpers of power who misrepresent the populations largely under their control.
Notice how some prefer to immaturely invoke "antiSemite" and "Jew hater" or other such knee jerk labelism without dare addressing the information presented......they never do. Because the truth is prolific and only serves to shed MUCH more light on what's what and who is really who.
What is a Jew, Who is a Semite? Indeed, questions worth answering!
http://www.missiontoisrael.org/gods-covenant-people/tableofcontents.php
How dare someone call me a 'Jew hater'! I don't hate Jews, Muslims, or those of any other religion.
I do however, as my master, Yeshua, Jesus Christ, abhor resorting to violence. Especially in defense of belief. I hate the actions of those infiltrators, who by their heinous actions, prove the hypocrisy of their affiliation with those who practice peace. They are wolves who are running out of sheeps clothing to wear. And are devouring themselves out of house and home.
A website to which I posted a link in my prior post, appears to have been shutdown.....such are the tactics of those who abhor freedom of speech. Their brand of 'truth' fears investigation. It was run by a Jew who was exposing the truth about Zionism/talmudic Judaism/antiChrist freemasonry.
http://zionofascism.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/extremist-group-shuts-down-realjewnews/
God warned us long ago who would be in power at this late hour, all I am doing is sharing the truth about them and what they are doing out of love, and respect for fellow man:
Mason freely admits devil worship -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
Speech that got JFK killed -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSGwnz7XpY
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer . . . be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. . . . Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. - Yeshua, Jesus ChristRevelation 2:9-10, 3:9.
http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/synagogue_of_satan.htm
Utilitarian spoke something about rope and revealing one's self.....I pray for both him and Hans, and those like them.
I don't doubt for a second that my Master's rope is stronger than theirs.
Blessings in Yeshua,
Mitch
Antisemitic is in reality a self-insult.
I will explain why.
1. 95% of semites are arabs.
2. 90% of so-called jews are not semites but fake jews (ashkenazis).
If 95% of semites are Arabs why the jews invented the word antisemite?
Easy. For jews, non-jews are not humans so as arabs are not humans the only semites left are jews.
Also as jews don't want people to know that 90% of jews are fake jews and thus with no roots in Israel they divert attention from this fact by calling themselves semites.
So by calling people antisemites you are just insulting yourself .
Quote from: utilitarian on January 11, 2009, 12:24:10 AM
Wow, who knew there were so many Jew haters on overunity.com? Give you guys a little rope and you all reveal yourselves. Hope your science is better than your history, though I doubt it.
Yes you are right, it has something to do with Hate.
Being a Christian I take offense to the
Talmud the Book of
HATE.
If its O.K. to kill me because of my belief should I be thrilled?
With your remarks and that of Hans you are revealing your faith and you will be in the minority I hope.
By the way Hitler was of Jewish descent and some his Henchmen were as well which I found always strange,since you mentioned Heinrich Himmler.
Go back to your Synagogue and tell them that People are finally waking up and had enough of your Violence that can no longer be hidden from them.
Poking a Stick into a Hornets Nest nets you the same result.
professor
Quote from: professor on January 11, 2009, 03:49:29 PM
Yes you are right, it has something to do with Hate.
Being a Christian I take offense to the Talmud the Book of HATE.
If its O.K. to kill me because of my belief should I be thrilled?
With your remarks and that of Hans you are revealing your faith and you will be in the minority I hope.
By the way Hitler was of Jewish descent and some his Henchmen were as well which I found always strange,since you mentioned Heinrich Himmler.
Go back to your Synagogue and tell them that People are finally waking up and had enough of your Violence that can no longer be hidden from them.
Poking a Stick into a Hornets Nest nets you the same result.
professor
I have no faith. As an atheist, I am telling you that the New Testament has plenty of hate too. Did I mention the endless torture of Hell for those who do not grovel to Jesus? Do you have an explanation for that? Please, enlighten us with your bullshit.
I guess if you clean up sh!t dropped in your path by other people long enough it becomes your natural state...and if you are suitably distracted, entertained, and occupied-it becomes easier to just continue to do as you are doing.
When instead you should consider catching up to the drivers of the manure spreaders and tell them to stop spreading their sh!t in your path.
Regards...
Quote from: TechStuf on January 11, 2009, 11:01:12 AM
Brian's thread title is a question....one that MANY around the world are naturally asking themselves. It is human nature, unfortunately to judge populations by what they allow their LCD (lowest common denominator) to get away with. Just as many people nowadays are increasingly asking the question: "Are Americans vicious thugs who want to take over the world for their queen, Israel?"
It's all too easy to say "Israelis" "Americans" "Chinese" instead of parsing it down and identifying the real culprits, the usurpers of power who misrepresent the populations largely under their control.
Notice how some prefer to immaturely invoke "antiSemite" and "Jew hater" or other such knee jerk labelism without dare addressing the information presented......they never do. Because the truth is prolific and only serves to shed MUCH more light on what's what and who is really who.
What is a Jew, Who is a Semite? Indeed, questions worth answering!
http://www.missiontoisrael.org/gods-covenant-people/tableofcontents.php
How dare someone call me a 'Jew hater'! I don't hate Jews, Muslims, or those of any other religion.
I do however, as my master, Yeshua, Jesus Christ, abhor resorting to violence. Especially in defense of belief. I hate the actions of those infiltrators, who by their heinous actions, prove the hypocrisy of their affiliation with those who practice peace. They are wolves who are running out of sheeps clothing to wear. And are devouring themselves out of house and home.
A website to which I posted a link in my prior post, appears to have been shutdown.....such are the tactics of those who abhor freedom of speech. Their brand of 'truth' fears investigation. It was run by a Jew who was exposing the truth about Zionism/talmudic Judaism/antiChrist freemasonry.
http://zionofascism.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/extremist-group-shuts-down-realjewnews/
God warned us long ago who would be in power at this late hour, all I am doing is sharing the truth about them and what they are doing out of love, and respect for fellow man:
Mason freely admits devil worship -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
Speech that got JFK killed -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSGwnz7XpY
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer . . . be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. . . . Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. - Yeshua, Jesus ChristRevelation 2:9-10, 3:9.
http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/synagogue_of_satan.htm
Utilitarian spoke something about rope and revealing one's self.....I pray for both him and Hans, and those like them.
I don't doubt for a second that my Master's rope is stronger than theirs.
Blessings in Yeshua,
Mitch
I am with you on every Point and the reason why a few label us as Jew Haters is historically proven to be something that these People do when their chips are down. Attack is the best defense.
Beware of THE SIX~POINTED STAR THE MARK OF THE BEAST
http://watch.pair.com/mark.html
Quote from: utilitarian on January 11, 2009, 04:15:59 PM
I have no faith. As an atheist, I am telling you that the New Testament has plenty of hate too. Did I mention the endless torture of Hell for those who do not grovel to Jesus? Do you have an explanation for that? Please, enlighten us with your bullshit.
I have no Answer that would be good enough for you, being an Atheist.
However do not believe even for a moment that you will be spared,only because you are what you are.
Although I must admit that you have an advantage over us, You
will accept the mark of the Beast.
Did you grovel to your Parents or were you always a disobedient Brat?
Faith is the word; obviously something that you do not have and therefore unable to understand its meaning.
Just like telling a Smoker that cigarettes are bad for his health No matter how much proof you provide he will dig up some doctored medical evidence to the contrary. As a Christian I pity you!
Oh please tell us where there is hate and slaughter of any non christian in the
New Testament even if it is difficult for you being an atheist to read a Bible.The Bible does not promote killing by Mankind Right?
The Talmud on the other hand does ...........there is the difference.
Professor
Does it matter if the "prophets/scribes/authors" of the above noted scriptures picked their noses with their other hand while taking divine dictation ?
Regards...
Quote from: professor on January 11, 2009, 05:36:24 PM
I have no Answer that would be good enough for you, being an Atheist.
However do not believe even for a moment that you will be spared,only because you are what you are.
Although I must admit that you have an advantage over us, You will accept the mark of the Beast.
Did you grovel to your Parents or were you always a disobedient Brat?
Faith is the word; obviously something that you do not have and therefore unable to understand its meaning.
Just like telling a Smoker that cigarettes are bad for his health No matter how much proof you provide he will dig up some doctored medical evidence to the contrary. As a Christian I pity you!
Oh please tell us where there is hate and slaughter of any non christian in the New Testament even if it is difficult for you being an atheist to read a Bible.The Bible does not promote killing by Mankind Right?
The Talmud on the other hand does ...........there is the difference.
Professor
For someone who accuses other religions of hate, you spew hate like the best of them.
@ Cap-Z-ro,
It would not matter for left handed scribes. Right handed scribes would have to pick their nose while writing with the unclean hand, namely the one reserved for cleaning the arsehole after a shit. That might present a problem. ;D
Hans von Lieven
It sounds like Israelis are psychopaths and pigs.
Kick the Israelis out of America.
I think the reason Israelis don’t eat pork is because they don’t want to be accused of being cannibals.
It is lucky for me that my wiping hand and my writing hand aren't the same...making me eligible for some divine dictation. :)
Seriously though...we are all ignorant...we differ only in the areas in which we are ignorant.
I personally am 'innumerate'...and try as you might you will have your work cut out for you trying to make me understand it.
Its the same as when I try to get people to focus on the rich white guys maliciously manipulating life on the planet...but try as I might they remain caught up in the illusions created to distract and pasify them...unable to see behind the curtain.
To quote another famous dead guy...." And the beat goes on."
Regards...
It looks like Israel’s attempt to force the Palestinians out of Gaza into Egypt is going to fail.
The question is when will Americans kick the psychopath Israeli’s out of America?
You know Brian, some pages back you accused me of being ab Israeli...I replied that I was of Scottish decent.
I am similarly curious as to your lineage...would you mind reciprocating by telling me what is your ethnicity ?
Regards...
I am a American, and I have the papers to prove it.
If I had answered your question with 'I am a Canadian citizen and have papers to prove it', your would naturally suspect that I was of Jewish lineage.
In order to avoid any ya mica confusion, I thought is best to reveal my strictly Scottish heritage, and remove any doubt.
Regarding my religious background...I am a recovering cathoholic. :)
Any questions regarding your ethnic background would be answered if you were to clear it up as did I.
Regards...
Quote from: utilitarian on January 11, 2009, 07:00:57 PM
For someone who accuses other religions of hate, you spew hate like the best of them.
Since when is quoting facts HATE ? Do you believe in free speech?
I guess all these Facts are a bit overwhelming for you hence your idiotic reply.
professor
Quote from: professor on January 12, 2009, 07:27:52 PM
Since when is quoting facts HATE ? Do you believe in free speech?
I guess all these Facts are a bit overwhelming for you hence your idiotic reply.
professor
Yes I believe in free speech, even hate speech. You don't even need to cite facts, but you can still talk, which is what you are doing. Just be prepared to be ridiculed for it in civilized circles.
And that's right, you did not state any facts. The bible is a collection of superstitions, just like every other holy book.
I suggest you read the U.S. Constitution.
Have you forgotten to answer my question about your ethnicity...if you don't answer, you will have people conclude that you are of Arabic or Muslim origin, with a generational axe to grind.
Regards...
I am a American, I don’t know how else to answer your question.
I suggest you read the U.S. Constitution.
Quote from: brian334 on January 13, 2009, 12:38:02 PM
I am a American, I don’t know how else to answer your question.
I bet you have some Jewish in you. Your last name is Sandler, and we all know that the "ler" ending is a common Jewish suffix. So there.
The avoidance of a direct question is an indicator of dishonest intent.
Maybe time for you to move on...you appear to be some type of racist or bigot.
Regards...
Cap,
What is your definition of a Jew?
My definition of a Jew is someone that believes in God.
My definition of a Christian is someone that believes in God.
My definition of a Muslim is someone that believes in God.
Quote from: brian334 on January 13, 2009, 02:24:27 PM
My definition of a Jew is someone that believes in God.
My definition of a Christian is someone that believes in God.
My definition of a Muslim is someone that believes in God.
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Hans von Lieven
Move along bud...its clear you are here solely to create a disturbance...nothing more.
Utilitarian,
You and your friends are Assholes
Let me tell you a harsh truth brian...and possibly somewhat of a turning point in your life...if you are wise enough to take heed.
Here it is....utilitarion and I have never agreed on anything...and have never gotten along.
But now here you have he and I in agreement on one issue.
Now that would give a wise or growing human intellect pause for thought and consideration...and much reflection if needed.
Thats all I have to offer you.
Best of luck in your journey along the road of life...try to stay out of the ditch though.
Regards...
I'll drink to that Cap-Z-ro.
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 14, 2009, 01:15:47 AM
I'll drink to that Cap-Z-ro.
Hans von Lieven
Hans, Will that be a Coopers by chance ! ?
If so I 'll join the drinking too ! ;D
What a pity, that sadists and psycopaths aren't born with a tamperproof label.
They come from
all sectors of humanity and societies, regardless of the other labels we may put on each other, such as christian, atheist, feminist, jew, american, left wing, right wing, blue collar worker, ,,,, the list is endless.
At least if they were all prelabeled, (sadists and psycopaths) we could dispose of
them before they could harm
us.
But in doing so, wouldn't we become them?
Labels ..... I pathologically and psychopathically hate them used in a social context.
Hmmmm .... I think I'm getting psycho again. Damn it! ..... bloody labels. Just can't seem to get away from them ??? .... KneeDeep
Coopers, nows there's a label! :)
Israel caused 9/11
Israel is trying to start a war between America and Iran.
The way for America to win the war on terrorism is to kick the Israelis out of America.
Quote from: brian334 on January 14, 2009, 04:51:57 PM
Israel caused 9/11
Israel is trying to start a war between America and Iran.
The way for America to win the war on terrorism is to kick the Israelis out of America.
Right on Brian ,
No Matter what the others are saying ignore them,you are right on target , I stated the same before. Israel dictates and the U.S. follows Orders.The U.S.A. has no money,since they own the Federal Reserve Bank and all the Gold that once backed up the Currency.You can't burn Gold but a 1 dollar note burns as brightly as a 1000 dollar note.
Now that Saddam is dead , the Country devestated and no longer a threat to Israel ,Israel systematically continues to order the U.S.A to eliminate Israels biggest Threat.
Only this Time it ill turn into WW3 a War that no one wins,as Russia , China and North Korea will get involved, both of them Nuclear capable.It would be a no win situation for Mankind of all Nations.
All of you that are in Support of Israel must be nuts because you will perish with the rest of us.
A Nuclear War can not be won. Although it is hard to avert destiny one should at least try.
professor
Quote:
On March 2, 1998 Foreign Minister prince Saud re-iterated that the greatest de-stabilizing element in the Middle East and the cause of all the problems in the region is Israel's policy towards the Palestinians and the U.S support for it, which might activate popular forces that the Saudi Arabia greatly fears, as this will undermine its legitimacy as guardian of Islamic holy places including Dome of the Rock in East Jerusalem. While a fair treatment to the Palestinians were denied the U.S fought hard so that Afghanistan is liberated from Russian occupation; the U.S also supported the independence of the Central Asian states from Russia.
Since the internet came into vogue, it became so obvious that rich people kill poor people by getting stupid people to carry it out...believing that they are serving a holy, moral, or noble cause.
Is it that puppets cannot think to figure it out because they are made of wood ?
Regards...
The way for America to end the war on terrorism is to kick the criminally insane Israeli’s out of America.
There is no point arguing about it, just do it.
Please no racism no this board.
I am closing this thread as it makes too much prejudice and racism.
Every nation has good and bad people....
It depends how much the good people let the bad people rule...
So the good people must act to avoid being ruled by the bad people.
Regards, Stefan.