It seems there's no such thing as an 'equal opportunity God hater'.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoncJBrrdQ8
http://atheismsucks.blogspot.com/2008/11/richard-dawkins-admits--is-morally.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_PAqT2JZOw
Watch a 'free'mason admit devil worship then try to divert the discussion to how nice they are to children:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/devil_companies.htm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=41617
http://www.disneylandclub33.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJPQYcrMXyc
Man is a poor substitute for God, so is the devil.
http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/the-case-for-christ.htm
Regardless of the words of the God haters, the Bible accurately foretold who would be in power in our day, who they would worship, and how it is going down.
They can attack the name of Yahweh all they wish, they can attack His children all they wish.
It won't change the facts.
Yahweh bless you dear readers in Yeshua, Jesus Christ
Quote from: TechStuf on January 15, 2009, 11:30:24 AM
It seems there's no such thing as an 'equal opportunity God hater'.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoncJBrrdQ8
http://atheismsucks.blogspot.com/2008/11/richard-dawkins-admits--is-morally.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_PAqT2JZOw
Watch a 'free'mason admit devil worship then try to divert the discussion to how nice they are to children:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/devil_companies.htm
http://www.disneylandclub33.com/
OMG this is a science board. There is no god or devil or any of that crap. That is all made up bullshit. Here we talk about real things we can experiment with. Please take your crap to a religious board where you might find someone who cares.
tech never stops with the proselytizing...
he continues to subscribe to the delusion that his imaginary god is better than any other imaginary god. i wonder when he will understand that the reasons he uses to discredit the other imaginary gods are the same reasons that discredit his...
maybe he is just lonely and needs imaginary friends. maybe he is just "deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow."
i'll say it again. yahweh... psychotic, and more. to quote one of my favorite authors on the subject "arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." -richard dawkins (the god delusion)
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." -robert pirsig (zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance)
Yeah, Tech is pretty much an incomplete atheist, isn't he.
He doesn't believe in all those other gods, only Jehova.
I mean, I feel the same way, I just believe in one less god than he does.
Dear TechStuf,
Please, please tell me how it genuinely honors the Source of all universes by attributing all existence to an archaic, anthropomorphic, tribal deity?
You're certainly free to parade around with your head up, embracing your flaccid little man-god-idol -- who reportedly will kill all men, women and children who do not bow to him. And you're free to judge us as "evil" who refuse to be filled with fear and so blindly march beside you.
However, for us to worship as "The Most High" such a diminutive and insignificant creature as your deity, would require us to foolishly reject the mind-boggling infinite nature of life and universe. Certainly the actual Source of such wonder must be greater still, and not momentously less like the savage little beast you so treasure.
Perhaps if you took your head out of your beloved "holy" story-book, and actually had a look around, you might, you just might get a clue.
There is a saying: "Little gods, for little minds."
jt
If anyone is interested see:
http://hackersclub.net/Ernest_Holmes_The_Science_of_Mind_1926.pdf
It seems as though the conditioning process designed to repress people's ability to process conflicting information has been successful on a sizable majority.
People are taught that it is better to allow other "smarter" people to make their decisions for them.
This is how someone with the ability to attain a high level of technical knowledge is unable to grasp such the obvious contradictions that religion represents.
The gods wore Prada.
Regards...
http://www.hisremnant.org/eby/articles/kingdom/twohands/twohandsof.html
Yahweh bless you in Yeshua, Jesus Christ
TS
http://forums.truthbeknown.com/viewforum.php?f=15
If Yahweh was living next door to me I'd shoot the bastard.
Hans von Lieven
I can't say I would blame you hans...from what I read about that yahweh guy in the bible, its either shoot or be smited. :)
Regards...
lol you guys are funny as hell lol
You are pretty vocal, Mr. Vonl Lieven, in your vehemence towards Almighty God, yet we've heard absolutely nothing about your feelings toward lucifer or his henchmen.....silence speaks volumes.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297062.shtml
http://www.formermasons.org/issues/the_temple_of_God.php
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html
http://www.cephas-library.com/israel_origin_of_six_pointed_star.html
Would you care to attempt to 'illuminate' us with your thoughts, feelings, or even general observations on freemasons, babylonian talmudism and those of their sort holding positions of power in the world today as prophesied in the Good Book?
Blessings in Yeshua,
Mitch
When it comes to freemasons, babylonian talmudism, satanism and your particular brand of christian fanaticism one is as bad as the other.
I want none of this shit.
Hans von Lieven
I'm afraid, Hans, that which you claim you want none of, is heading for your lap as you have mocked the Living God.
You and the others who've mocked Him are in my prayers.
Blessings in Yeshua,
TS
@all
It's getting to the point that I have to look back at the title of this forum and wonder if I am actually here or not. Now what the f*&k does this have to do with OU. Just more of the same bullshit threads that are popping up all over this forum. I will now put those thread openers on notice. Three choices. You either stick to the OU program or go somewhere else or you get banned. You can't expect us to absorb all this bullshit and still have some brain time to work on OU. It's all crap and it better stop. Enough is enough.
I agree totally...god has no place on ou.com...unless of course he wants to start posting some free energy tips. :)
Regards...
Quote from: wattsup on January 15, 2009, 06:09:46 PM
@all
It's getting to the point that I have to look back at the title of this forum and wonder if I am actually here or not. Now what the f*&k does this have to do with OU. Just more of the same bullshit threads that are popping up all over this forum. I will now put those thread openers on notice. Three choices. You either stick to the OU program or go somewhere else or you get banned. You can't expect us to absorb all this bullshit and still have some brain time to work on OU. It's all crap and it better stop. Enough is enough.
I second that motion. Ban the religious freaks.
Michel
hellooooooooooooooooooooooo! :o
is there a moderator in this forum ???
TechStuff it's clowns like you who twist religion into a hate subject, turning brother against brother. Don't forget your precious Christianity is only 2000 yrs old.
As is said, religion is just a ladder to get onto the roof, when you're up there, you don't need the ladder.
Wake up and stop spreading hate and division, we have enough of that crap in the world already.
Lol... yeah i think there should be a clause in the agreement - Please note all content on this board should be on the topic of helping in the quest to OU... so unless your almighty is going to show us how to create a useable, renewable and readily available energy a bit of STFU is in order me thinks...
Your opinion and your god are the same thing to me... keep it on topic...
Tech stuff has a lot to offer in other areas...if he would just stop shoving religion in everyone's face.
He is not being abusive toward anyone...although he has cast the odd aspersion...which zealots could could and would and have used to denounce and shun people.
So in closing, I am not in favor of banning prostletizers, just to curtail their preaching.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on January 15, 2009, 06:26:46 PM
I agree totally...god has no place on ou.com...unless of course he wants to start posting some free energy tips. :)
Regards...
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Mid-east Peace Talks To Begin
Suspicious Earthquakes Under Yellowstone Lake
Oh-oh Obama...oh no
I give You Sigmund Freud's Nephew Eddie
Black Friday
A Sure Fire Way To Incite Riots
Hey...Put That G.E. Corn Away Edna!!
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.Your glass house is in need of repair.
No one is forced to read anything posted at this website.
Some people don’t want you to read things posted at this website.
Who are the people that don’t you to read things posted at this website and what is there agenda?
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" Mid-east Peace Talks To Begin
Suspicious Earthquakes Under Yellowstone Lake
Oh-oh Obama...oh no
I give You Sigmund Freud's Nephew Eddie
Black Friday
A Sure Fire Way To Incite Riots
Hey...Put That G.E. Corn Away Edna!!
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Well first off..those topics are relevant the category Stefan put in place to deal with other somewhat related areas of suppression...shouldn't you be bringing that to his attention ?
Also the issue was religious rhetoric...what does that have to do with my postings in the appropriate category ??
And in case you haven't been brought up to speed the same people are behind all suppression.
You seems to have a problem with me...care to articulate it...or wil this the extent of your communication skills ?
Regards...
God aint the problem it's the holier than thou assholes who believe it is their call on who knows what when where and how. Some examples the Mathmeternika whatever crew not allowing scientific examination and blueprinting of their machine.
Their given reason Mankind isn't ready for it. Probably just a hoax the head pontiff turns on and screws the maidens of the community in front of. Then the Amish douche bags supposedly have a Tesla solid state generator going but they ain't sharing cause if you aint Amish rot on the "Devils Grid". We got a nice thing going interbreeding and whatever so fuck all the rest of you. Take your religions and shove em we aint buying them no more.
Just believe in yourself
and fuck everything else.
Someone had to say it. ;D
Quote from: TechStuf on January 15, 2009, 06:08:46 PM
I'm afraid, Hans, that which you claim you want none of, is heading for your lap as you have mocked the Living God.
You and the others who've mocked Him are in my prayers.
Blessings in Yeshua,
TS
Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Quote from: FreeEnergy on January 16, 2009, 11:44:45 AM
Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Dude, you can't cite the bible to prove that what the bible says is true.
"In many respects, the Christian Bible is the greatest book ever written, and does truly point a way to eternal values. But it is only ONE explanation and cannot be considered the ONLY light on religion, for there are many others whose combined teachings weave the story of Truth into a complete and unified pattern."
http://www.rsintl.org/teaching/faq.asp#christianbible
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"In many respects, the Christian Bible is the greatest book ever written, and does truly point a way to eternal values. But it is only ONE explanation and cannot be considered the ONLY light on religion, for there are many others whose combined teachings weave the story of Truth into a complete and unified pattern."
No offense, but that is what the 'free'masons among other occultists, teach.
I have investigated various religions of the world and found that they don't hold a candle to the Truths shared in the Holy Bible.
The Bible reveals many scientific, among other observations, that when compared to other religions, is alone found to be accurate. The bible reveals the earth to be a "spheros" hanging upon nothing, while lesser scribes were branding their ignorance upon their foreheads, The Greeks extolling the virtues of Atlas upon whose shoulders the Earth sits, or the Asians lauding the wonderous pillars that supported our planet......4 Elephants on the back of a giant sea turtle.
The Bible accurately depicted things that no man could have known so long ago.....while other belief systems of the time were focused on observationalism. And still are today.
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/science.shtml
Does one find any other instruction manual warning to beware of "those who call themselves Jews, and are not, but of the synagogue of satan, bearing the 666 seal of solomon, would be in power at a time when man has dominion of the air, even going into space? I'll leave it to the capable reader to decide who is in power over many governments of the world at this time.
http://www.myninjaplease.com/politricks/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/bill-clinton-yarmulke-synagogue.jpg
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/bushtorah.gif
http://www.bangitout.com/uploads/34obama_yarmulke.gif
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0fy4cD2cNLb7I/340x.jpg
http://www.jewishjournal.com/images/photos/nw_obama-barack_011108.jpg
What other book accurately foretold of the conflict between the descendants of Ishamel, Israel, and Edom in our day?
http://www.missiontoisrael.org/ishmael,edom,israel.php
What other spiritual path leads to Yahweh through Yeshua, Jesus Christ? Yahweh may work in mysterious ways, but there is only one path that I have found, among the many, that leads to True and lasting Wisdom.
I can find no other writings from the lesser scribes that survive to our day that give fair warning that a militaristic fascist government would rule, which would require it's citizens to have a mark, worship it, or the number of it's name in order to buy or sell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoYvbcYKz2M
http://yerekmessage.blogspot.com/2008/06/worship-not-his-star-his-symbol-his.html
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html
Of course, as many of you know, I could go on and on sharing many more Truths contained in God's Holy Writ....I post links to prevent my posts from taking up too much of Stefan's bandwidth!
In all my studies, I have found that there is but One path to eternal life, to Yahweh. The rest wind about in tentacle fashion to the feet of mankind....or below.
I implore the open minded reader to study the information sources above.
Just a few more sources of information. I don't agree with every single bit of information at the links I post, but but they make good points about how evil the 'Cwhoreporate Media' has become, among many other truths:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbMGQwAv_iQ
http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/cinema.html
Consider the children's movie, Antbully which is among many, many 'entertainments' engineered to rob many of their higher thought processes, deferring them in favor of blind allegiance to a beast system of government.
http://mikebryant.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/hidden-masonic-symbols/
The 'free'masons and their mother, talmudic zionism both worship via ritualistic occultism, extolling both solomon and his six pointed star seal. They own the media and are hell bent (literally) on capturing the hearts and minds of the general public, which they deem to be THEIR 'goyim', cattle.
They have, as foretold in the Bible, infiltrated most organized religions of the world and are becoming much bolder in their 'craftiness'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
Our Father will NOT permit another war in His kingdom. And He will see us all tested as to fitness for citizenship in His kingdom. He will not have two faced liars like the father of the lie, lucifer and his minions, messing things up for the rest of His children.
Those who love the lie, become cowards, cowards become traitors, traitors start wars.
“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, “He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS†- 1 Corinthians 3:19 http://www.hisremnant.org/eby/articles/kingdom/twohands/twohandsof.html
In the final analysis, it comes down to trust. Who do you trust? Trust equals faith.
I exhort any and all to put their trust, their faith, in whom it may best be found. But In order to be found, a search is required.
If one feels far from God, who do you think, has moved?
Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ, be upon you dear readers, and may Yahweh's Prince of Peace make visitation upon those who open their hearts and call upon His name,
Mitch
"Religious Science teaches that each individual has the power over and the responsibility for his or her own life. Religious Science highly discourages the following of or dependence upon any one person, including founder Ernest Holmes or any present ministers or teachers. Religious Science challenges people to think for themselves and only believe what rings true for them. One must look into one's own heart for truth."
Quote from: forsalebabyshoesneverworn on January 16, 2009, 12:16:01 PM
Dude, you can't cite the bible to prove that what the bible says is true.
Can you proof that it is not true?
If you can not and others with a higher intellect have tried unsuccessfully I suggest you keep those remarks to yourself and shut up.
Hans I hear Hell is about as hot as it gets in Australia it should be a good resting place for you.
I know that does not sound very Christian but if you have to deal with the Devils Advocate then one has to become cynical. Remember there is no free Beer in Hell. .......Too Bad !!!!!
Quote from: professor on January 16, 2009, 03:42:04 PM
Can you proof that it is not true?
If you can not and others with a higher intellect have tried unsuccessfully I suggest you keep those remarks to yourself and shut up.
Hans I hear Hell is about as hot as it gets in Australia it should be a good resting place for you.
I know that does not sound very Christian but if you have to deal with the Devils Advocate then one has to become cynical. Remember there is no free Beer in Hell. .......Too Bad !!!!!
Hi professor;
I hate to get in the middle of of religion but what happened to "Judge not lest ye yourself be judged"?
vonwolf
Quote from: vonwolf on January 16, 2009, 04:57:35 PM
Hi professor;
I hate to get in the middle of of religion but what happened to "Judge not lest ye yourself be judged"?
vonwolf
never said I was perfect sometimes emotions overpower diplomacy.
I dont know why you should be asking?
Although not in agreance with your threads I have not adressed you.
If you are simply looking for an argument I wont comply.
professor
Quote from: professor on January 16, 2009, 03:42:04 PM
Can you proof that it is not true?
If you can not and others with a higher intellect have tried unsuccessfully I suggest you keep those remarks to yourself and shut up.
Hans I hear Hell is about as hot as it gets in Australia it should be a good resting place for you.
I know that does not sound very Christian but if you have to deal with the Devils Advocate then one has to become cynical. Remember there is no free Beer in Hell. .......Too Bad !!!!!
First of all, what the hell are you a professor of? It is certainly not logic or reasoning. No one can disprove the existence of god, because as god is defined by the faithful (i.e. gullible), it is not possible to detect him using any of our senses.
So what? You cannot disprove that the Islamic religion is wrong, or the Hindu, or the ancient Greek and Roman, or the Native American, or the Wicca, or the Norse, the ancient Egyptian or any of the numerous pagan faiths. Maybe we should start worshiping Apollo or Zeus or Thor again? What about the Flying Spaghetti Monster - disprove him please. He touched me with his noodly appendage and now I am forever blessed, Ramen.
@ Tech
This is a question I've always had about the nature of good and evil and how religion effects it.
Here are the the things to be considered to show why this is a quandary for me.
1.) The bible is the word of God and the truth.
2.) It says God Is aware of "every sparrow that falls and every hair on your head" and knows all that has been and will be.
3.) I says Satan (Lucifer) was once the most favored angel of God, who made all the angels. He was cast "down" by God because of his pride and arrogance.
4.) The bible tells us that God is good and we are all the children of God (although wiping the face of the earth of all humanity except the family of Noah tests that quality a bit).
5.) It also tells us that God cast down the most favored of his angels (although there are arguments that the casting out of Lucifer [Isaiah 14:12] was referring to the deposition of a Phoenician King) for his pride and thus that angel became the Lord of evil.
6.) It also says (in the case of Job) that God ALLOWED Satan (inferring control of Satan) to ply tortures and tribulations (killing his family and livestock, destroying his home, infecting him with disease) to the faithful (Job) to "test" his devotion to God because he (Satan) was jealous of Gods devotion and gifts to Job.
So.........................finally the question:
If you (God) creates a tool (Satan) to work something (evil) and it's known that it will turn out that way even before you start, is it the tools (Satan) fault, or the fault of the creator and wielder of that tool (God)?
This a duality of what the bible and religion tell us about this confuses me.
If God created everything and is all knowing, God created both good and evil and every perpetrator of either and knows everything they'll do before they are created to do it?
Therefore, "What the Lord giveth, the Lord taketh away?" (said by Job in fact).
Quote from: forsalebabyshoesneverworn on January 16, 2009, 11:38:42 PM
Maybe we should start worshiping Apollo or Zeus or Thor again? What about the Flying Spaghetti Monster - disprove him please. He touched me with his noodly appendage and now I am forever blessed, Ramen.
LOL LOL LOL Could not have said it better myself. Well Done!
Hans von Lieven
i know that arguing is a way of life for some of you........
but i have an answer for this mystery.
long ago, mankind was very technologically advanced.
to the point where traveling anywhere in the world, was convenient.
each nation chose a main leader. and called their main leader a "god".
which in their language, meant "big important person".
sort of like VIP means today.
this "god-ruler" was just a mere mortal.
but the prestige, wealth, and loyalty that they had, was impressive.
exactly like our celebrities and leaders today, pride themselves on.
over time, there were squabbles over power. (they were still human, after all.....)
some people said that there could be many "gods". and that each had their place in society.
such as many rulers, in many countries.
where the ancient version of the globalists said that there was just one "god".
and that all other "gods" were "false gods".
even back then, globalists were trying to **** us all over........
this difference in governing-opinion, caused war on earth.
it caused conditions which were "highly unfriendly",
to the maintenence of advanced knowledge.
the result being that mankind lost its knowledge, over time.
with us still trying to climb out of ignorance today, being the ultimate result.
the globalists apperantly won the conflict.
because to this day, organized religions spew their globalist mantra.
"there is just one "god" ! "
"the one true "god" is our ABSOLUTE, DIVINE TYRANT ! "
"all bow before the one true globalist "god" !"
"sacrifice your personal power, to our screw up "leader-god" !"
"the one true "god" can only make you safe, if you give up your freedom of choice !"
the "one god" nutjobs were responsible, for the loss in technology.
because look at how they reject ANY new innovation, to this very day.
today, they oppose genetic research.
in the 1800's, they opposed barbed wire fencing !
for religious reasons.
in the 1600's, the first guy to draw diagrams of the human circulatory system, was burnt at the stake. for "witchcraft".
the dark ages after the fall of rome,
must have been caused by too many of them getting together,
in the same place at one time....
if they reject something as simple yet practical as barbed wire fencing,
than how could they possibly maintaine atlantis-like technology?
their closed minded pro-globalism, destroyed our glorious technology !
their fear and superstition even destroyed all TRACES of past technology !
a few years ago, they uncovered an ancient lesbian bathhouse, in the ruins of pompii or something.
the catholic churches reaction upon hearing about the bathhouse, was "DESTROY IT !".
the catholic churchs reaction might as well be PROOF,
of what happened to all traces of advanced technology, over the years !
the fate of the technological remains, was "DESTROY IT !"
the mental flaws of the pro-globalists is undoubtedly GENETIC,.
because they have consistently behaved this way for thousands and thousands of years,
and they are still doing it to this day.
the ancient globalists must have genetically altered part of mankind.
trying to create a race of mindless slaves.
to support their pro-globalism agenda.
only it backfired.
and created a strain of humans so stupid,
so superstitious,
so closed minded,
so intellectually repulsive,
that high civilization was made impossible......
We've been duped all this time by a 'One God Order' ?
I knew it !!!
Damned Iluminati !
Regerds...
Mankind's physical form is of nature. A grouping of cells or individual life forms that are driven by nature to stay in its form as long as possible. Nature upon close observation is a ruthless battle for selfpreservation from the smart clays found in ocean tidal pools to global leaders. Nature is what it is. The mind is not of nature but transcends it. Preoccupation with this life does not allow for enlightenment or progress of the individual will. A civilization that has been able to master technology and preserve it in the physical plane of nature is surely deserving of admiration. Floods disease cataclysms all a product of nature will have surely tested such a civilization. This civilization has surely been tested by it's own power structures that are a consequence of any organization of wills. If it is a power structure based on preoccupation and adoration of the natural world then it adores a cruel ruthless master which shall consume them as it consumes all. Just a matter of being in the wrong spot at the wrong time.
Exxcomm0n,
"Does the clay say to the potter, why have you made me this way?"
And let's face it, we are as clay to our most Awesome Creator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ukPD4G5eSw
I think the most pertinent questions one should ask regarding such a quandary, are not, "why, oh why did Yahweh let satan fall?" "Why does He allow evil to reign for a time, as He promised?"
But, "Would one rather He not have created you at all?" "Would one rather give one's self over to cowardice and live the motto, If you can't beat 'em, join 'em?"
The Bible is unfolding on schedule, His promises, all, being fulfilled. His prophecies, all, being fulfilled.
I for one, find it more profitable to dwell less on such questions as: Why 1/3rd of the heavenly host chose to corrupt themselves and follow a lying anarchist?
And more on the Attributes of Yahweh and Yeshua, that would cause the other 2/3rds to remain loyal to their Creator.
I think it's fairly obvious that part of the reason Yahweh allows corruption to reach the precipices that He does, is to teach His heavenly host and the remnant down here, an eternal lesson, once and for all time.....and that is the inevitable end for those who betray His reasonable laws, willingly give themselves over to corruption.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbMGQwAv_iQ
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297062.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_PAqT2JZOw
In the final analysis, there are those who recognize the value of True Authority and those who don't. Either way, inescapably, all are accustomed to recognizing authority in one form or another, be it the authority of parents as a child, civil authority, etc.
Freedom of choice seems to be the very thing which the followers of the devil fear most. Giving themselves over to carnal desires, base instinct, they become slaves to corruption.
A prime example of how these servants of the devil are taken over, is their assumption that their victims are actually as dumb as they think they are. Such overestimation of themselves and underestimation of the public at large, helps serve to expose them further for what they are.
Notice on the following video that the 'free'mason speaking outside the lodge, paradoxically claims Christ as his leader, yet when asked the question if he has ever been addressed as "worshipful master", he offers the pitiful lie that he has simply been to busy working to receive such adoration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
Free will and tough love are forever intertwined. One cannot truly serve two masters.
For many others and myself, by comparison, the choice is clear:
http://purgatorio1.com/wp-content/pics/jesusUN.jpg
There is a time fast approaching when Yeshua will quit knocking on the door to the hearts of men, letting the righteous go on doing righteousness and the wicked go on doing wickedness until the day and hour of His return.
Even a child, perhaps especially a child, upon reading the words of Christ, compared to, say, those of the babylonian talmud, the 'free'masons, or other secretive organizations, would readily choose the words of Christ, which are Truth.
Christ was not tortured and killed for showing us all how to love one another, but for exposing the wickedness of liars, corruptors, and infiltrators of the innocent. So, Hans, and those of his particular persuasion can go on doing what it is they do, but they know that they were warned and without excuse on the day we all stand before our Creator and receive judgment as to how we have exercised our freedom of choice to live our lives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSzQvNkr5wE
Those who, by their works, show themselves be followers of Christ's enemy are rushing to judgment, often playing the part of 'mystified traitors to their own souls.' Those with the courage to kneel and ask Christ to free them from the bondage of evil, truly asking Yahweh in the name of Yeshua, Jesus Christ to free them from the grip of the evil one, go on to give powerful testimonies about what really is slavery....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9W4KxDKd3A
In light of the mountain of evidence against those usurping power in the world today, what really is slavery?
Keeping our Creator's righteous, reasonable commandments? Or the slavery of addiction to corruption in it's many forms.
Blessings upon you dear readers, in Yeshua, Jesus Christ,
Mitch
techstuf appears to have the ancient globalist genetic programming, that i talked about.
if that is true, than no amount of argument will change his mind.
because his behavior comes from the genes in his genome.
not from his brain.
i think that is one reason why the modern day globalists oppose genetic research.
because it would reveal what the ancient globalists did to our DNA,
to create someone like techstuf.
the existance of "god" is irrelevant.
because god or not, each person must be responsible for themself.
each person must find their motivation, intelligence, wisdom, and constructiveness,
from themself.
not sacrifice it all to someone else !
giving it all to someone else, causes nothing but trouble......
usually that someone else is a lying criminal.
with megalomania as their agenda.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on January 15, 2009, 08:39:54 PM
And in case you haven't been brought up to speed the same people are behind all suppression.
Perhaps not. Some folks may only be interested in suppressing free energy by, among other tactics, clogging the free energy forums with unrelated topics.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on January 15, 2009, 08:39:54 PM
You seems to have a problem with me...care to articulate it...or wil this the extent of your communication skills ?
No, this will be the extent of my communication skills:
I found it hypocritical of you to state that, "...god has no place on ou.com...unless of course he wants to start posting some free energy tips," when you start so many topics yourself that have no free energy tips.
I have no problem with you, personally. In fact, I enjoy many of your posted topics. (I also enjoy fucking my wife, but not while I am trying to repair my car.) The WWW offers us many forums in which to share valuable information, such as yours, and I think that you and others can find a better audience in a more appropriate forum.
I am also guilty of getting off of the free energy topic once in awhile, (like right now.) Until better moderation comes to this 'energy' forum, I think that we can all do a better job of helping to keep it on topic by self moderation. So, God willing, this will be my last reply in this particular off-topic.
:-*
knowlege exists everywhere.
technology is one part of knowledge.
a part that exists, everywhere that knowledge exists.
if overunity dot com covers ALL fields of knowledge......
than overunity dot com is more likely to discover technology.
because some technologies require competency, in multiple fields of knowledge.
many of you might disagree.
but i think that some "spiritual/feeling" based groups,
have been touching upon "energy physics".
especially energy physics, which are related to human physiology.
if a "scientific person",
were to compare their technological knowledge,
with what some of these "mystic-types" know........
than the "scientific person",
might discover new things,
about energy technology !
for example.
many new age people talk about the "human aura".
and how "chakra's" exist in/on the human aura.
i think that the human aura is really a powerful DC magnetic field.
which is generated by every cell in the human body.
EXPECIALLY generated by the nerve cells.
i think that the inside of each human cell is negatively charged, and the outside of each cell is positively charged.
and these 2 charges are kept sepperate, by a thin layer of unsaturated fat, on the cell membrane.
EXACTLY like a capacitor.
and this is why the human magnetic field, is able to charge up !
i think that the "chakra's", are spinning magnetic vortexes, in this human magnetic field.
that they are processing centers, for magnetism.
that the "chakra's" are created by endocrine organs.
even if they are controlled indirectly, by the brain.
i also think that emotions, are magnetic energy.
that this "emotion-magnetism", is processed inside the chakra's.
i think that what most people call consciousness, is just magnetic activity.
and that each chakra allows a person to experience a certain "spectrum" of consciousness.
such as a person with an inactive/closed/clogged sacral chakra, being unable to experience basic emotions.
and a person with a closed solar plexus, being unable to experience logical thought. and free will. and motivation.
and a person with an overactive heart chakra, is loving and compassionate to a fault.
and a person with an overactive throut chakra, is extremely sensitive to sound and speech.
and a person with an inactive brow chakra, lacking imagination and creativity (koen1).
my method of "research", requires you to entertaine even far fetched idea's,
for long periods of time.
i think that my method has greatly paid off, for my overall understanding.
many people in these forums don't seem to be capable of entertaining much of anything,
before condemning it as "not-real".
so i might be wasting my time in typing this........
@all
To tell the truth, I am now so ashamed of this Forum turn-out.
During the last two years, regardless of what has happened around the world, the calamities and all the troubles, we had managed to keep a straight face and keep on topic of OU methods and devices. Now we are surrounded by lame threads that have nothing to do with our efforts. Just a bunch of irrelevant crap.
Opening a NEW F*&KIN THREAD has become as common as laying a brownie burger. People see a f(*kin youtube and open a thread. People read about Annie Fanny getting layed and open a new thread. People discover Jesus and open a new thread. People wonder if chocolate icing is better then vanilla icing on a sesame bun and open a new thread.
Used to be that guys would open a thread when they had prepared a document on OU and wanted to initiate serious discussions with their counterparts. Not anymore. Just total bullshit.
@Stefan
There is no more room for many on this board so many just leave otherwise their sanity will be at risk. You let people register and give them open thread rights toooooooo f*&kin fast. They should all be on probation and allowed to open only one thread that they can grow with time. Opening a new thread should be sacred ground, not run of the mill. I think after over 1000 posts, I opened one thread. These guys think it is their right to open such threads and not a privilege.
Either this Forum fixes itself up or the name will have to be changed from OverUnity.Com to OverDose.Com. This is serious. Many of the guys are going to Energetic.com and even then, they do not have posting rights because they are waiting in a cue to be activated, like me.
@CapZRO and gangs. Just open one thread called The CapZRO Zone and post all your finds in that one thread. Why do you need to open new threads all the time. You are just cluttering up the main categories section with so much crap. Sorry but IT IS TRUE. Or best of all, find the right already opened thread that is pertinent to what you want to show and put it there. Again why open a new thread. I feel I am being surrounded my mentally deranged assholes that don't know or have the slightest common courtesy to even ask themselves, IS THIS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS FORUM OR NOT. Just ask yourself that one f*&kin question. Be your own judge. Use your brain, if you have one.
Just plain sickening.
@nitinnun
Just saw your post.
Chakras, Kirilian Photos, Biological Energy. Fine. If you think they are really relevant to OU, then prepare a document explaining exactly how and what you mean, show some real life examples, etc., then open a thread and STICK WITH IT.
But what you just posted is run of the mill stuff that has been said and re-said over and over again. Just search the forum already, then find the right thread and take it from there. Why would you open a new thread just for that. People open threads for even less. What a waste.
i have posted new threads, dedicated to stuff.
but they get noticed about as much as when i post in a semi-related thread.
a few weeks ago, i posed that people should replace the overunity torroid primary coil,
with a wimhurst machine.
that doing this, would overcome certain TPU problems.
such as the rediculous amount of complexity needed, to build an efficiently conducting iron core.
or the advantages of replacing most of the fragile, expensive wire coil,
with 2 metal plated wheels, and a few horse shoe magnets.
or how the primary coil, is elecrtrified.
or maybe even the problem of powering the kicker coils, with the output.
but did anyone pay attention to my thread?
no. it was ignored.
the above idea is twice as likely to get the recognition it deserves in this semi-related thread, than in my original, ignored thread.
any 2 things in the universe, are connected somehow.
even if the connection is 2 or 3 subjects over.
eventually you WILL need to branch out to semi-related subjects, if you wish to grow.
These advanced civilizations that retained technological advances are if anything cowards who hideout in the oceans when the shit hits the fan. Wait till the big one comes and vaporizes the entire deal. Where ya gonna run to now. Ever notice them big black vacant eyes aliens got. They are for seeing in low light levels like in caves and underwater where they belong huddling clinging on to their miserable existences. I'd rather go in a blase of glory then eat shark shit. They come back to the surface cause they are so interbred (who would want to fuck one of em they gotta be the ugliest pieces of shit I've ever seen) mother nature is just saying no more of this mess. Time for these assholes to come out of the closet and display a little more courage than they have in the past. They don't chose to not become involved with humans they run like the little rat bastards they are. ;D I'll take a fema coffin over a day in some hideaway cave existence slaving for some abomination of nature.
Rosphere...I'm not even going to bother addressing you other than to say this was the 2nd time you took a pot shot at me for whatever the reason...maybe you are just unhappy and are prone to lashing out at people, I don't know.
Nevertheless please do not address me again on this board unless it is in a positive constructive manner
Thanks for your cooperation.
wattsup...same for you this is your 2nd run also...I usually let the first ones pass, in case of a bad day.
Referring people as assholes when they are post simply posting according to forum policy, because a certain someone doesn't like it and lash out at the poster, says more about the person applying the label.
Some advice...when entering a party a Stefan's house and you do not like the topics of conversation...a well adjusted person will simply leave the party.
However, the not so well adjusted among us[sometimes referred to as assholes] will instead start picking fights with the other guests.
I guess what I am saying is...if you don't like it here, it is wiser to control your temper or leave...instead of alienating people.
This is Stefan's forum...I will be following the guidelines which only he sets...I would suggest you do the same.
Regards...
overunity wimhurst for the win !
Quote from: forsalebabyshoesneverworn on January 16, 2009, 11:38:42 PM
First of all, what the hell are you a professor of? It is certainly not logic or reasoning. No one can disprove the existence of god, because as god is defined by the faithful (i.e. gullible), it is not possible to detect him using any of our senses.
So what? You cannot disprove that the Islamic religion is wrong, or the Hindu, or the ancient Greek and Roman, or the Native American, or the Wicca, or the Norse, the ancient Egyptian or any of the numerous pagan faiths. Maybe we should start worshiping Apollo or Zeus or Thor again? What about the Flying Spaghetti Monster - disprove him please. He touched me with his noodly appendage and now I am forever blessed, Ramen.
No I am not a professor, far from it .
Nick Names do not refer to someones profession,even a Newbie should know that.
Guess you and HANS must sleep in the same bed.
Have fun!
Do you believe in the 10 Commandments? They have been around for thousands of years the basic principle of our human society and even you must live by it. Kill someone and you will end up in prison or depending where you live, you loose your life as well Right?
Without them its the Rule of the Jungle something that you seem to be advocating..
If you believe in the rule of Jungle I suppose you should go and live in it.
And who gave us the 10 Commandments your Apollo Zeus or Thor?
Don't know the Answer to that Question ? Google it!
Come on you must have learned something meaningfull during your Life!
professor
Quote from: professor on January 17, 2009, 02:53:29 PM
Do you believe in the 10 Commandments? They have been around for thousands of years the basic principle of our human society and even you must live by it. Kill someone and you will end up in prison or depending where you live, you loose your life as well Right?
Without them its the Rule of the Jungle something that you seem to be advocating..
If you believe in the rule of Jungle I suppose you should go and live in it.
And who gave us the 10 Commandments your Apollo Zeus or Thor?
Don't know the Answer to that Question ? Google it!
Come on you must have learned something meaningfull during your Life!
professor
I am happy that you brought up the 10 commandments. I do not much like most of them. The one about killing fine and good (assuming killing means murder, because as we all know, many people did lots of killing with God's blessing in the Old Testament. It was not a good day's work until you sacked a city, killed every man, woman, child and animal.) But have you read some of the others? I am serious, have you? Can you even name them? Let's look.
You shall have no other gods before me. Why does this matter? If he is the only god, then why not just say that. If there are other gods, why is god being so vain and petty about the whole thing?
Honor your father and mother. OK, most of the time. What if your mother beats you for no reason and your father sexually molests you? Should you still honor them?
You shall not make yourself an idol. What is so bad about that? Christians do it all the time, with the cross and statues of Jesus and Mary and various saints. Do you even follow that one?
Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. Why? Why can't we, as a free peoples just work whenever the hell we want to?
You shall not desire your neighbor's wife, house, field, slave, donkey etc. What, you can't even desire it? Isn't that thoughtcrime? WTF is up with that? Actions should be punished, not stray thoughts.
You shall not commit adultery. Well, OK, that may lead to bad things, but as an absolute, it is not very good. It may take years for a bitter divorce to resolve itself. What is wrong with finding someone and living your life while going through a divorce.
@CapZRO
Of all people, I was hoping you would say something like "You know what, opening one thread and keeping all my finds there is not a bad idea. Actually makes sense. Anything to help unclutter the site. Thanks for the idea." But no, you are more worried about your right to open threads as you please.
So just wait, @Stefan came around when we asked him to stop the Karma game and it was stopped. Next on the list, limitation of 1 thread per 3 MONTH PERIOD. Otherwise he will have to split this Forum in two, one side for OU that will be highly moderated and other other side for everything else. But obviously, the way it is now is just untenable.
And @nitinnun just explained his dilemma which exposes the problem flagrantly. He started a thread on a valid OU concern and you know what, I never saw it and I am sure many did not see it either. Why, because the Most Recent Posts page moves so fast in one day with all this irrelevant stuff that no one knows who is really coming or going on the OU track. So you better believe it is damn frustrating and I can understand his position which is held by many here.
Quote from: forsalebabyshoesneverworn on January 17, 2009, 03:10:52 PM
I am happy that you brought up the 10 commandments. I do not much like most of them. The one about killing fine and good (assuming killing means murder, because as we all know, many people did lots of killing with God's blessing in the Old Testament. It was not a good day's work until you sacked a city, killed every man, woman, child and animal.) But have you read some of the others? I am serious, have you? Can you even name them? Let's look.
You shall have no other gods before me. Why does this matter? If he is the only god, then why not just say that. If there are other gods, why is god being so vain and petty about the whole thing?
Honor your father and mother. OK, most of the time. What if your mother beats you for no reason and your father sexually molests you? Should you still honor them?
You shall not make yourself an idol. What is so bad about that? Christians do it all the time, with the cross and statues of Jesus and Mary and various saints. Do you even follow that one?
Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. Why? Why can't we, as a free peoples just work whenever the hell we want to?
You shall not desire your neighbor's wife, house, field, slave, donkey etc. What, you can't even desire it? Isn't that thoughtcrime? WTF is up with that? Actions should be punished, not stray thoughts.
You shall not commit adultery. Well, OK, that may lead to bad things, but as an absolute, it is not very good. It may take years for a bitter divorce to resolve itself. What is wrong with finding someone and living your life while going through a divorce.
Well Done!
I am glad to see that you agree with the majority you mentioned.
There is hope for you.
As far as Hans is concerned there is no Hope at all.
Fortunatly he only represent .00001 percent of all Australians.
The following Article is for Hans and I am proud of your Leader.
PLEASE SOMEONE KIDNAP THIS GUY AND PUT HIM IN OFFICE HERE!!!!!!!
Canada & USA Need A Leader Like This!
Prime Minister John Howard - Australia
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law
were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia ,
As the government targeted radicals in a bid to head
Off potential terror attacks.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims
On Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies
Monitoring the nation's mosques.
Quote:
IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.
Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying
about whether we are offending some individual or their
Culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have
Experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority
Of Australians.'
'This culture has been developed over two centuries
of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men
and women who have sought freedom'
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese,
Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language.
Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society
Learn the language!'
Most Australians believe in God. This is not some
Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because
Christian men and women, on Christian principles,
Founded this nation, and this is clearly documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls
of our schools.
If God offends you, then I suggest you
Consider another part of the world as your new home, Because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why.
All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony
and peaceful enjoyment with us.'
'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE,
and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this.
But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping
About Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our
Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one
Other great Australian freedom,
"The RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force
you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the
Country YOU accepted.'
Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves,
American and Canadian citizens will find the
Backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.
I have in my hand a syringe of genetically engineered virus that will alter your RNA and DNA and once injected you will live for 1000 years!
This group is now divided in two.
Group 1 will take the injection and continue to advance technology.
Group 2 will refuse and continue to stifle technology on some imaginary moral reasoning.
Group 2 will continue to kill and molest and punish and anything they are told because they believe without question.
Group 1 will not kill and torture because they know life has only one chance to continue and every life is the most important thing and the primary goal before all other technology should be to develop the injection in step 1.
Group 2 will do nothing for why should they? God will save them.
But why would God help those that are too lazy to try and save themselves, sitting and waiting for God to save them is one thing but preventing the rest of us from saving ourselves MUST be some kind of sin.
I wonder if it is even possible to stop all the highly religious people from killing us all!
Just for your information Professor, I am NOT Australian, I am German, I just live here.
Hans von Lieven
hans has been a thorn in my *** on many occasions.
almost always needlessly.
but i'm curious.
what has hans done to plague the rest of you ?
accept Overunity Wimhurst Machine into your heart as your personal savior !
and he shalt save you from the eternal night of "citywide blackout" !
Overunity Wimhurst Machine shalt even do a better job of it, than Raptor-Jesus !
so glorious is Overunity Wimhurst Machine's divinity,
that his 2 wheels out-spins the propaganda department of the catholic church,
the muslim ministry of jihad,
and the cult of the mongbat,
all at the same time !
OWM for the win !
OWM for president !
OWM to rule the human cattle of egypt for all time !
NOW ARE YOU INTERESTED IN MY *****ING INVENTION ????????
Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 17, 2009, 03:33:51 PM
Just for your information Professor, I am NOT Australian, I am German, I just live here.
Hans von Lieven
Oh so sorry....
Hm ....Ein des landes ausgewiesener? Too many Christians in Germany?, well it seems you came to the wrong Country, with your attitude and belief try Africa,amongst the Pygmy's.
Take to heart what the Australian Prime Minister had to say about all foreigners mind you he did not specify Atheists.
professor
First off I guess...I did read the wimhurst thread...I have always been interested in the concept.
I make comment on those threads only when I feel I have something relevant to offer.
And the only threads I miss are the ones missed if I don't check back to the previous group of threads clearly marked as 'read' by their red color.
Personally, I don't concur with the 'cluttered board theory'...and feel it is rooted on ones reluctance to scroll down.
It is simply a matter of choosing a thread of interest.
To limit expression is to limit the chance of an idea sparking an advancement.
I just click the 'notify button' on threads I wish to follow and the next post is emailed to me...whereupon I click on the link provided, and am taken directly to that location.
After that the new threads are even easier to see.
Regards...
even the austrailian prime minister wants hans to leave the country !
hans must be in austrailia, because they drove him out of germany with pitchforks and torches !
hans is like the international trash of the planet !
that no country will give willing refuge too !
his best bet is to move to mars.
where there is no observable life, to object to his personality flaws.
Quote from: nitinnun on January 17, 2009, 04:11:49 PM
hans has been a thorn in my *** on many occasions.
almost always needlessly.
but i'm curious.
what has hans done to plague the rest of you ?
It is simple Nitinnum, they hate me because I am an atheist and don't buy their Yahweh bullshit and the Armageddon scenario. What more, I say so.
As to your Wimshurst project. You would benefit greatly if you were to study V.E. Johnson's 1922 tome called: "Modern High Speed Influence Machines" It is available as re-print now. You can find it on the net. I have an original copy that cost an arm and a leg.
Johnson's book is considered THE textbook on the subject. There you will find that the Wimshurst machine, though the most popular amongst influence machines, is also the most inefficient. There are much better designs around. The book is really worthy of study.
It also describes electrostatic motors.
Hans von Lieven
PS: I love you too ;D
*sings Kooombya lowly in background*
Quote from: professor on January 17, 2009, 03:24:54 PM
As far as Hans is concerned there is no Hope at all.
Fortunately he only represent .00001 percent of all Australians.
Get your facts right ! - The Australian bureau of statistics records show that 24-25 % of all Australians are either atheists or agnostics.
As for John Howard being a great leader - well, this is one Australian voter who is glad to see the back of him !
His fascist, rascist, divisionist politics and zenophobic ideals did more to harm the compassionate and egalitarian reputation and way of life of Australia and Australians than any other politician in our brief history. Good riddance to him.
I'd like to say the same as many people said before....
Please, leave RELIGION out of this board!
PLEASE!?
Except if there's a direct connection with what we're doing here...
So, Mr. M.R. ..? ???
Thanks!
These types of threads have become unbearable to me. Please everyone, let us stop this bickering. It has reached the level of being pointless.
Those of you who reject God or specifically the Christian/ or Catholic view of God then please, let’s leave it at that. Personally, I never knew Hans was an atheist, but that doesn’t lower my respect for his reason for being on this forum; nor my respect for his abilities as a researcher. That goes for every one of you that hold that view. I understand that you are offended by the idea of God or specifically a Christian/ or Catholic view of God. This back and forth series of attacks seems to be infiltrating every thread.
I also understand the desire of Christians to Evangelize; but back and forth attacks don’t seem to be getting anywhere, nor do they seem to show the whole point of Evangelizing: to help others see the need to save their souls and turn to Jesus for salvation. The whole point of the effort has been lost. Everybody now looks at every word as an attack on their freedom, and an attack on their truth.
Peace everyone, let’s keep our eyes on the ball. Free Energy, which is the real goal here; and freedom from the control of the Oil Cabal.
we disrespect hans capacity to be an inflamed asshat bastard,
who can't keep his insolent mouth shut.
we also disrespect his ability to add his unconstructive,
often meaningless opinion,
where it is not useful or desired.
and that smug-bastard-expression on his profile,
is helping us research energy technology even less.
who cares if he's atheist.
his firm belief in the tenents of asshol-ism, is the source of his unholy villainy !
Cool, you can attach stuff. Just came to post this.
there is an 85% or greater chance,
that the biblical accounts of "gods" and "devils",
were REALLY encounters with "extra-terrestrials".
atleast some of which are undoubtedly related too us, genetically.
they may have been "other human beings", who just possessed advanced technology.
they interacted with humans in the past.
because in the past, humans didn't have enough technology to be a real threat to them,
when they came to visit.
now humans have powerful guns.
with which to shoot them on sight, out of fear.
and we have living environments, which are polluted like mad.
with low frequency electromagnetic pollution,
harmful chemicals in our foods and air,
highly disrupting noises,
and thoroughly unpleasant individuals, who even WE don't like to be around.
and we have communication networks, with which to make an embarassing,
disruptive,
unconstructive spectacle,
of anything they do while visiting.
and don't forget the passive aggressive abuse,
that the masses would casually lavish upon them.
just as they lavish it upon anyone who is "different" from them.
or just because they feel like tearing into someone else.
so who can blame them, for wanting to stay away from us !
we suck !
I love free speech.
Like I said before these beings are way too timid for us animals. They pop in every once in a while for a visit at the zoo day and off they go. No faith at all in the goodness of the common man. If you are in communication with these advanced civilizations let em know all a manannimal really wants is to be able to pay all the bills when they come in, a job providing a sense of self worth producing income to pay all the bills when they comein, and be able to sit by a warm fire with his family and know that tomorrow will be a better day than today and today was wonderful. No one wants to do this trip alone. No one wants to feel there is no purpose to their lives. No one wants to have to go to work just so they can go to work tomorrow. I do appreciate the crop circle efforts. If they really need to communicate with the common man hijack the frigging air waves and stop messing around with shit only rich people in airplanes can make out. Or brainwashed military leaders. Put a big smiley face on the moon at least the kids will be thrilled.
Just in case you dont get what a smile is all about it looks like the below circles. It's how humans pay each other. Not one of those forced bullshit smiles a lawyer spends hours in the mirror producing just one from the heart.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Aliens this on the moon please within the next week! It will make my grandkids day. You do know where the moonn is? You are technologically advanced right. Come on take a chance. Signed a SMART MONKEY.
' so who can blame them[aliens], for wanting to stay away from us !
we suck ! '
We have been manipulated and duped into 'sucking'...but, at the end of the day, its still our own fault we suck. :) :)
Regards...
the aliens won't visit us, until "people" like hans are no more !
You are a poisonous little character nitinnum or shall I say Omnibus.
Hans von Lieven
Guess I won't hold my breath for the smiley face on the moon. What a dumb dumb I am, the man in the moon is smiling. Guess I'll just show my grandaughter his smile and get one in return. Waiting around for some shy technologically advanced civilization to lend a helping hand round here doesn't appear feasible.
Hans got em on the run. :-[
@sparks
If them aliens need a smiley face to put on the moon, he'll be free after next Tuesday. They can have him. lol
When the rat population exceeds the environment tey tends to choose sides and maul each other.
It is obvious the count here does not know about OU and are tired of waiting to be spoon fed so the infighting starts.
God only directed the killing of those who couldn't follow the brotherly love plan. Enemies of the long term genetic lineage program were dismissed. These are usually identified by no love for others regardless of each others actions, spitting foul towards one another, taking peace from thy fellow man.
Your hearts must full of strife to be able to spew such abominations at each other.
Australia started out as a penal colony. Gives a new meaning to "G'day mate" doesn't it?
On average, 1700 souls a day are murdered since the inception of man.
So keep it up. Obviously it is easier to coddle disharmony through mockery of all that is good than to look upon the fabric of mankind and desire love.
--giantkiller.
@ giantkiller,
Techstuff is here under a deceptive name, he writes posts in "News" which aren't News in a forum that is not a religous forum and topics which are by themselves inflammatory.
His next post will probably read: "The DEVIL within..."
Why not ask Techstuff to stop pretending he is a preacher and show him where he should be. (www.bible.com)
Take care,
Michel
when i incarnated onto this bloodbath of misery,
my heart chakra was as open as any angels heart chakra.
when i was just 6 years old, i knew exactly what unconditional love for all living things was.
because i FELT it, in the most certain of ways.
i was aware of all the misery in the world.
and i felt the deepest compassion, for its seemingly endless pain.
their pain was very literally my pain.
i didn't have to be here suffering with everyone else.
i came out of love for others.
to help them.
somehow.......
thousands of other peoples actions, over a few decades, have closed my heart chakra.
violently.
and messily.
and irreversibly.
only a crack in the door, is still open.
and even now, "others" are trying to attack my heart, through the opening.
you can judge people for their shitty actions.
what little good that will do.
but you cannot deny the extreme amount of "resistance",
that is built into the inferastructure we live in.
designed to purposely destroy peoples emotions.
so that the populace is more "agreeable",
with the plans of our rich-bastard hostage takers.
you also cannot deny the potential,
that most people started with,
as innocent children......
by the way.
i came here to save everyone, except hans.
i cared about the pain of even the smallest bug.
but not about hans.
hans can fall into a blackhole.
and become some other universes problem.
not that i would wish hans, upon another universe.
You have just shown the world what a miserable, twisted, unhappy creature you are. How would you of all people save anyone. No-one in his right mind would want to live in your reality. There is no love, no compassion in you, only self righteousness, self pity and hatred. A poor state of being.
I feel sorry for you.
Hans von Lieven
Here is something for all you Jesus worshipers. A church in Brazil had a roof failure shortly after service on Sunday, killing 7, injuring 57 others. I would love to hear God's plan for this.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/19/world/americas/19brazil.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/19/world/americas/19brazil.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper)
@ Tech
Why would you create a creature with free will if you knew their every movement and thought throughout their life? What choices they would make and why.
That seems a little bit like a rigged game only played for the enjoyment of the game maker according to that specific religious text (bible).
I believe in "God".
I believe in Budda.
I believe in Mohammad.
I believe in Great Father.
I believe in any teaching that tells that doing good is a better past time than doing "evil".
But I don't believe that the bible is the only true religious text, or that it is the best document to convince me in the beneficence of the christian god because if it is READ and it's words are not blindly followed because of preached interpretation, it is very contradictory as to what it's principles do, while telling us to something different.
I do believe that any good work a human chooses to undertake for the betterment of his fellow man is a good thing and that if a certain name wasn't invoked during such a work that it <edit>DOESN'T</edit> make it worthless.
Sorry about that, I was a bit rushed just before posting.
P.S. I miss the text color choices.
I think new energy technologies are things we NEED to look at to better enable us to do good works for our fellow man.
@ all
While religious posts may not be following the theme of this site, I have to applaud Stephan for his not censoring post content that doesn't exactly fit the theme of the site as it does put that responsibility upon the individual as to whether they wish to read such content or not.
Use the much bandied about "free will" we're all supposed to have. ;)
Have a "good" day.
'Quaintly stated but undeniably true'...to borrow a phrase from an old tea commercial.
Regards...
The Bible is not a religious text. Is a history book of the Earth. Every society existed. Every war fought. Every massacre documented. Who would have the gall to tell a Jew, Hebrew, Egyptian that they are invalid because we don't understand their thinking or history.
Go ahead. Be the first? Hilter was one of many to try to make things perfect.
You cannot speak with feelings if you are not apart of history. A bystander is just a sideline victim.
Here is apart of history that none of you will like. And you can't deny it.
Every society that has made it to comfort status with all their things, conveniences, and lack of self control has perished. Got stuff? You're going away.
OBTW. The 10 commandments were known by Plato (Who believed in God), Confuscious (Who believed in God), Budda (Who believed in God).
The inhabitants of Soddom and Gomorrah did not (believe in God). Those 2 cities were run like open prisons, lack of self control. They don't exist any more.
We are in end times and you are the plot. The Jews have remained in center stage. They are plot. Anytime favor is bestowed, jealousy arises in the not chosen. Can you say suicide bombers. Are they Jews? We are to watch and be still.
--giantkiller. Who is my name?
Quote from: giantkiller on January 19, 2009, 12:06:13 PM
The Bible is not a religious text. Is a history book of the Earth. Every society existed. Every war fought. Every massacre documented. Who would have the gall to tell a Jew, Hebrew, Egyptian that they are invalid because we don't understand their thinking or history.
Go ahead. Be the first? Hilter was one of many to try to make things perfect.
You cannot speak with feelings if you are not apart of history. A bystander is just a sideline victim.
Here is apart of history that none of you will like. And you can't deny it.
Every society that has made it to comfort status with all their things, conveniences, and lack of self control has perished. Got stuff? You're going away.
OBTW. The 10 commandments were known by Plato (Who believed in God), Confuscious (Who believed in God), Budda (Who believed in God).
The inhabitants of Soddom and Gomorrah did not (believe in God). Those 2 cities were run like open prisons, lack of self control. They don't exist any more.
We are in end times and you are the plot. The Jews have remained in center stage. They are plot. Anytime favor is bestowed, jealousy arises in the not chosen. Can you say suicide bombers. Are they Jews? We are to watch and be still.
--giantkiller. Who is my name?
Except that history books can be and are changed when new evidence comes to light. Ever try to change the bible? And while there is some evidence that supports some of the events that occurred in the bible, it is overall thin.
Also, I think it is an insult to humanity to equate not believing in God with living an immoral life, as you do with the Sodom and Gomorrah example. Want to know what an atheist society is like? Well, you can look at the former Soviet Union as an example, where religion was actively suppressed for 70 years and the average person did not believe in god, or if he or she did believe, the belief was limited to Deism, meaning the belief that maybe a supreme being created the universe, but day-to-day events happened without supervision or active direction from a divine being.
I know the regime there was totalitarian, but if you examine the everyday life of the average Soviet and how they interacted with their friends and neighbors, you will see that most people tended to behave themselves and society functioned like most societies do. There was no mass fornication (is that even wrong?), theft, murder, or whatever other crimes and moral failing you may imagine a Godless society would have. Certainly, crime existed, but it was not out of line with less secular societies.
I do not think that somebody hates God - nobody can . They just hate their false image about God. That almighty being who created the Universe is also involved in the very being of the so called God haters, so how can God hate himself?
This is not a riddle.
Quote from: spacetrax on January 19, 2009, 01:32:36 PM
I do not think that somebody hates God - nobody can . They just hate their false image about God. That almighty being who created the Universe is also involved in the very being of the so called God haters, so how can God hate himself?
This is not a riddle.
Good point. Atheists do not hate god - that would be absurd.
One of the foremost atheistic lettermen in recent years, revealed his logical belief in the possibility of a Higher Intelligence forming life on this planet.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxsQrBa0ECE
And then of course, when his self chosen words were put on display....he as do many other egotistical & dogmatic religious hypocrites of his sort....
became upset:
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/10-04-2007/0004675856&EDATE=
How one chooses to reconcile the simplest example of biological 'self organization' on the planet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ukPD4G5eSw
With dumb luck, is certainly one's own free will prerogative.
Yahweh bless you, dear readers, in Yeshua, Jesus Christ
Mitch
i don't hate the reptilians, who the old testiment bible was based on.
but i do hate how this older thread,
is covering up my new thread,
on an advanced construction material.
i will use this advanced material,
to build a "frequency-excited" wimhurst machine.
I guess the best plan is to give what you wish to receive. The bible is a written record of a particular grouping of humans. In it we see theology advanced and an incredible mind journey from basically animal awareness to one of enlightenment.
Awareness of ones own being is not just a given. Nature does throw us some curves along the way though. Quite difficult to keep your mind in the right zone in the midst of chaos.