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Title: Building a UFO
Post by: Halifax on January 17, 2009, 03:29:22 AM
I suppose this topic belongs here because it is still quit half baked.

I'll put it simply: I wish to build a UFO. Such things as the UFO How To (http://ufohowto.com/) and Mark Tomion's StarDrive (http://www.stardrivedevice.com/) give me hope that there are people out there with the same want as I. This post is simply a probe to see if there are any like minded people about, those who would wish to partner in this venture of mine or contribute in ideas, time, or resources.

My purpose for pursuing this dream is purely personal, but know that my intent and will are fully behind these things.

I have this endeavor planned in stages or steps (but not completely in a linear fashion as some pieces of steps will need to be completed or will be completed by the virtue of design or construction techniques or what have you).

1. Drive - this first step focuses solely on what the driving mechanism of the craft will be.
2. Power plant - the drive needs to be powered somehow, if it is exotic, fine. If it is a diesel engine or generator, so be it.
3. Control Schema - a drive is no good without the ability to steer. This will comprise of the exterior mechanisms (part of the drive itself) and the actual user interface. Computer controlled or mechanical, I care not which.
4. Final design - the previous steps will mold into the final design specifications set out. These are as follows:
       - has handeling qualities attributed to UFOs; vertical take off and landing, high speed translation, relatively noiseless
       - translates in a 'forward' fashion at least 300 mph
       - seats at least one
       - costs less than 5000 USD in material to build
       - can be built by a layman with no prior knowledge and a will to complete

The final specifications, plans, materials lists, etc., etc. will be free for building and further development by the community. I have no wish to be the only one possessing technology of this caliber. While I recognize holding the reigns to such a technology would make me quite powerful I deem transportation of this type to be like water: it is a necessity for mankind's survival.

The above is my plan, actual execution of said plan is stalled for the most part because of lack of shop space to begin. This will hopefully be rectified in three month's time. For now I am accumulating possibilites. These possibilities must have enough information present to show that they work effectively as a thrusting mechanism and enough information to replicate the effect. The following meet these criteria.

The Biefel-Brown effect encompasses all designs that place a high voltage across two electrodes, this includes lifters (which are completely out of the question for this, they are inefficient and ill-designed for the task at hand), assymetrical capacitors of all types and kinds, Poynting Flow Thrusters (JL Naudin), etc., etc.

Beyond the Biefeld-Brown effect is a specific manifestation that has come to my attention: the Adamski UFO as patented by James F. Kind (a result of King's and Brown's work).

Beyond these things I have not found more. Though more things with enough information for replication and improvement are welcome. The very initial phases will test various configurations of the Biefeld-Brown effect, a PFT, and a minimized Adamski UFO based on the patent. These things will all be put through a battery of tests to find the correct one that meets the requirements. I recognize this will be a lot of work, but I have a lot of spare time. With the correct planning in place this will go extremely fast. (To throw out a caveat I have not planned this in detail, only in general, so this thread may be home to some of the more detailed bits of planning.)

I will continue this in my next post. It's early here: 0228. Some friends and I are going to IHOP. ;P I'm allowed my relax and chill time. I hope this interests at least some of you and that I have inspired others.

-Hal

Pertinant Data: Biefeld-Brown Effect
"How I Control Gravitation" (http://www.rexresearch.com/gravitor/gravitor.htm) by T.T. Brown

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Revision .001 - Sat Jan 17 2009 - Removed mention of the StarDrive in the list of propulsion types as it is not known yet if enough information is available to replicate it or even if it works as a thrusting mechanism. Added the requirement that the drive technology must have enough documentation to replicate and must be marginally effective as a thrusting mechanism.
Revision .002 - Sat Jan 17 2009 - Added resources for the Biefeld-Brown Effect.
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Pirate88179 on January 17, 2009, 03:40:34 AM
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Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: hansvonlieven on January 17, 2009, 05:16:48 AM
Building a UFO is an OXYMORON !

If you are building it you know what it is and it is therefore not unidentified, by definition.

If it flies that is, of course.  ;D

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Halifax on January 17, 2009, 05:38:52 AM
Bill - Thank you for that link! I will work my way through that thread to see if I can mine out the useful information.

Hans - Just because you built it doesn't mean you know what it is! :P

My intent is to acquire as much information on each of the aforementioned methods of mobility (and now it seems another is added) so that when it comes time to build and test I will have a solid background in each. Thus I attempt to avoid the haphazard build by the seat of the pants method that seems to plague a lot of people.

-Hal
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: z.monkey on January 17, 2009, 05:39:40 AM
Quote from: Halifax on January 17, 2009, 03:29:22 AM
       - costs less than 5000 USD in material to build
       - can be built by a layman with no prior knowledge and a will to complete
LMAO, yeah good luck with that...
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Halifax on January 17, 2009, 05:52:57 AM
Quote from: z.monkey on January 17, 2009, 05:39:40 AM
LMAO, yeah good luck with that...

...How much did you pay for the material to build yours?

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Z - It is not my intent to start an arguement, I am simply trying to make a point. Do you see it?

Also - I should have said this to start: any propulsion system that is not readily replicable will not be considered by myself (simply for the impracticality of it. I wish to build a flying saucer, not research propulsion systems).

With that in mind, Bill, thank you for te link but so long as there is not enough data to replicate it (or even agree that it works...) it will not be added to the list above. And on that note Mr. Tomion's StarDrive will be leaving the list as well.
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Revision .1 - Sat Jan 17 2009 - Added explanation of my statement to z.monkey and replication requirements for the drive system.
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: z.monkey on January 17, 2009, 06:15:25 AM
The Infinity Coil has about $100 of steel in it.  The wire is another $25 bucks and the circuit board materials maybe around $40.  But the Infinity Coil weighs 17 pounds.  You are talking about making an electrogravity ship.  Possibly up to 1000 pounds of iron and steel to build the Levitator Disks.  Then you are going to need thrusters, just a fan will work, but you want Bifield Brown thrusters, do you understand how to make those?  Each one needs a high voltage, high current power supply, not cheap.  Then you need navigation, a PC will work but you need something that works on an electrogravity ship like one of those compasses they put in the Vril Levitator.  Just this piece is like $15,000...  Then you will probably want to use new technology as well, like GPS.  Those are a lot cheaper.  An altimeter is 5000 bux by itself...

So you are looking at building an experimental aircraft.  To design, build, and test fly a prototype aircraft is going to cost you several million dollars, easy...  Don't forget the labor, engineers ain't cheap...

Man, I feel for you...  There is nothing I want more than an electrogravity ship...  I went through this process, evaluated what I needed to do to build it, and my conclusion was that I need a better job, so I can get wealthy, and then I can afford to build an electrogravity ship...

Keep on Space Truckin'
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Halifax on January 17, 2009, 06:33:49 AM
Quote from: z.monkey on January 17, 2009, 06:15:25 AMThen you are going to need thrusters, just a fan will work, but you want Bifield Brown thrusters, do you understand how to make those?  Each one needs a high voltage, high current power supply, not cheap.

[snip]

Keep on Space Truckin'

From the data I have (and I shall review and post it for certainty's sake) it is the voltage that counts and the current is simply enough to overcome the losses in leakage etc. of the capacitors.

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As to everything else concerning cost - it is what it is. Initially the costs will be high, but once a suitable craft is built the design can be modified to fit those two particular needs.
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FOUND: I found the relevant data. It is an article written by Brown. In it he states that the capacitor requires only enough current to overcome losses in the capacitor. You can read it here (http://www.rexresearch.com/gravitor/gravitor.htm#control).
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I just checked - the data I found on a website somewhere, so in this case it is not valid until refound. If I recall correctly it was an article by T.T. Brown. I shall endeavor to find it. My sincerest apologies.

-Hal

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Revision .1 - Sat Jan 17 2009 - Added response to the rest of z.monkey's post.
Revision .2 - Sat Jan 17 2009 - Added the location of the aforementioned article stating that amperage is only required to be strong enough to overcome circuit resistance and losses in the capacitor.
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: z.monkey on January 17, 2009, 06:56:11 AM
I have some info on Bifield Brown Thrusters, gotta find it...

Look at this...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6407.0

This is similar to a Bifield Brown Thruster but for a high density environment, water.  Look at the configuration of the electrodes and magnets and the force created in relation to these factors.  The thrust is not in the direction that I figured it would be.  From the classic Bifield Brown Theory the medium (air, water) is ionized and flows from the cathode (+) to the annode (-) via elastic cohesion.  With the MHD Drive there is a pair of magnets involved in the thruster.  They are aligned longitudinally with the electrodes and the force generated is at a right angle to the electrodes and the magnets.  The magnetic flux and electric current are interacting at a right angle forming a vortex between the electrodes.  This is a virtual screw and it pumps water through the device.  Very, very cool technologies...

OK, Mo Later...
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: z.monkey on January 17, 2009, 07:08:18 AM
Don't forget the SEG...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_u6-l33EoE&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPPBkhjp1fY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-14tjc7T4o&feature=related
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Halifax on January 17, 2009, 07:41:42 AM
Just watched through those last two sets of videos. Very interesting.

The first twisted my understanding of MHD propulsion a little bit, especially that last part with the ring and vortice of water. It reminds me of one of the lifter designs I've seen somewhere (http://www.geocities.com/marktecson/vortexlifter.htm)... :P One I could actually find. It looks as though it does the same thing with air.

Also, with that water propulsion system in mind I could design and build the world's most efficient and possibly fastest submarine... (Oh oh! I made an unsupported claim!) Never fear, a submarine hull of significant displacement and proper design would cost me something on the order of 30 to 50,000 USD. The magnets to get the desired effects from the thrusting section (electromagnets might do as well) would cost about as much. :P

For the second set of videos: the SEG looks promising, but it is also proprietary at this point in time. Assuming I built a successfully operating craft I could probably be brought down for patent infringment (I am not aprised as to what patents who holds concerning this technology so my rights for distribution of plans based on them may be limited).

Thanks, Z!

-Hal
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: z.monkey on January 17, 2009, 08:10:40 AM
This is a Searle replica notes from 1984...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item186

Also the Vril Levitator and the Thule Levitator technologies should be considered...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item132

And the Vimanika Shastra...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item122

Beamship Lifters...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item188
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Halifax on January 17, 2009, 08:42:12 AM
Mmm... Than an SEG I shall build. (As there are basically complete plans to do so with).

The Vril and Thule ships are a fantasy for me right now - there will never be enough information available to replicate one of those unless a raid is planned and executed into the Antarctic, which is highly unlikely. It does bring up the work of Schauberger, however. I found a page that goes a little more in depth than most I have seen. I'd like your thoughts on this one if you might. Read it HERE (http://evg-ars.narod.ru/shauberg1.htm).

I have not read through the Vimanika Shastra yet, though I recall reading it a while ago. I will go through it again with an objective eye.

The beamship lifters will take some more in depth looking to see if they are viable. It will more than likely turn out to be that there is not enough information to replicate.

Thank you! If you can keep doing what you're doing I will be increasingly happy! This is the kind of thing I really love! Now to sleep ;)

-Hal
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Freezer on January 17, 2009, 08:42:50 AM
Quote from: Halifax on January 17, 2009, 03:29:22 AM
Look into otis t carrs craft.
http://www.rexresearch.com/carr/1carr.htm

As far as replicating the real alien craft, no amount of money could buy that.
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: z.monkey on January 17, 2009, 09:00:52 AM
The Fertile Earth
Viktor Schauberger Translated by Callum Coats
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item184

I have an alien repository...  It's a few gig's...
Much of it is too large to upload here.
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Steven Dufresne on January 17, 2009, 11:21:08 AM
@Hal,
If you're going to go with an SEG, keep in mind that the parts needed may be simpler than what Searle says they have to be (i.e. may not need all the layers.) See the Roschin & Godin replication:
http://www.rexresearch.com/roschin/roschin.htm
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Halifax on January 17, 2009, 06:19:36 PM
Freezer - I've been over every bit of available information on the web for the OTC-X1 and related craft. There is not enough information to build it. I even went so far as to try and email Ralph Ring. Alas, to no avail. It remains simply one more unsupported story.

Steven - Thanks for that link! More than a bit of useful information there!

Z - Thank you for that! I have always enjoyed Schauberger's work. This will be most enjoyable. As for the rest of it, if you feel so inclined: use your disgression and the following two rules: does it work (has it been replicated by someone else?) and is there enough information to replicate it?

-Hal

Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Halifax on January 18, 2009, 12:21:04 AM
There are a couple of critical pieces missing with the SEG that put it in the almost unbuildable catagory. One is the lack of an explanation of the Law of Squares and how it relates directly to the amount of materials used (the Roschin and Godin experiment may make this a moot point), two is the fabrication of the required magnetic elements (specifically the stator) - though I will be putting in for a quote with a company to see what the costs might be (the specifications of the material quote will be for the Roschin and Godin work).

Beyond that I really don't see any limitations. The arguement that the Roschin-Godin work is somehow invalid at this point does not concern me.

I will continue to dig around for more info on the SEG. It seems to me that a solid state circuit of some kind could operate in the same way as the SEG. At this point in time, however, I have no idea at all.

Thanks for all the info so far!
-Hal
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: spacetrax on January 18, 2009, 12:33:52 AM
Maybe you should take a look at those UFOs which make a tornado underneath, by exhausting hot gases under pressure through a ring shaped exhaust. The hot gas tornado is said to create a very strong magnetic field and antigravity. Good luck!
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Halifax on January 18, 2009, 12:47:50 AM
Quote from: spacetrax on January 18, 2009, 12:33:52 AM
Maybe you should take a look at those UFOs which make a tornado underneath, by exhausting hot gases under pressure through a ring shaped exhaust. The hot gas tornado is said to create a very strong magnetic field and antigravity. Good luck!

;) See this link (http://evg-ars.narod.ru/shauberg1.htm) for more information on these particular drive types. I do like Schauberger's work even if it isn't solid state electronics.

I considered these for a short while, and I may do something with them.

-Hal
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Halifax on January 18, 2009, 05:37:46 AM
Quote from: z.monkey on January 17, 2009, 08:10:40 AM
This is a Searle replica notes from 1984...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item186

Also the Vril Levitator and the Thule Levitator technologies should be considered...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item132

And the Vimanika Shastra...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item122

Beamship Lifters...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item188

Negative on all accounts, there is not enough data available for replication even if they didn't work. Thank you for these links! If you have more like them, more propulsion systems you know of I would gladly hear about them!

Also, does anyone know where I can get articles written by T.T. Brown or any of his associates. Well, articles, patents and any other written material...

-Hal
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: z.monkey on January 18, 2009, 07:02:00 AM
Well, Halifax, you know...

Only two groups (relative to us) have these technologies.  One group is the Dark Cabal who jealously keeps advanced technologies from mankind in general.  They won't even give up simple technologies like electrinium crystals, so they surely won't give up plans for a TR-3b.  The other group are the various alien cultures that buzz our planet with their temptatious electrogravity ships, make us drool, and say "Na Na!"

The aliens keep their information secret because they think the human race it not ready for these advanced technologies in general.  So the two groups of that use these technologies are not sharing them with us lowly surface dwellers for various reasons.

This stuff I posted here is some of the best information to be found on line.  I actually have a book called "How to build a Flying Saucer", but it's from the 70's and not what you think...  No one is going to come give you plans to build an electrogravity ship.  You are not going to be able to buy them either.  See the crux of using advanced technologies like electrogravity ships is figuring them out with out being shown how to figure them out.  You have the power, you can do it.  Put yourself on the path toward that end and you may be surprised what you find in your path in the future...

OK, Mo Later...

Edit:  Many times I have found, when searching for information, that there are bits and pieces hidden here and there.  You may have to read 20 books on electrogravity systems to understand it fully.  Like my search for Free Energy.  It's been 20 years and hundreds of books and experiments and I don't have a Free Energy generator yet, but I know the working device is close.  Look at illustration 2-3 in the Alchemical Manual.  I believe that this is the final lineal key that I need to produce Free Energy.  Electrogravity ships are not far behind....

Persistence and patients payoff eventually...
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Halifax on January 18, 2009, 11:15:38 PM
Quite simply all I'm looking for is technology that has been shown to work and has enough technical data that my puny brain can replicate it.

If I were to simplify the things I've seen in the way of technology I would say that there are assymetrical capacitors and spinning magnetic fields. And maybe it's the fact that an assymetrical capacitor creates a spinning field of some kind?

There are vague similarites between all these lifting technologies... It kind of tickles across the back of my mind every time I read another elctrogravity or spinning anigravity device proposal or patent.

-Hal
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: spacetrax on January 19, 2009, 01:12:16 AM
Hi! I did not mean the Schauberger type of engine. The ufo that I meant exhausts hot gases outside, through a ring shaped exhaust and creates a cone of rotating plasma underneath. See the attached picture.

Quote from: Halifax on January 18, 2009, 12:47:50 AM
;) See this link (http://evg-ars.narod.ru/shauberg1.htm) for more information on these particular drive types. I do like Schauberger's work even if it isn't solid state electronics.

I considered these for a short while, and I may do something with them.

-Hal
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Steven Dufresne on January 19, 2009, 10:50:21 AM
Quote from: Halifax on January 18, 2009, 05:37:46 AM
Negative on all accounts, there is not enough data available for replication even if they didn't work. Thank you for these links! If you have more like them, more propulsion systems you know of I would gladly hear about them!
@Hal, If there were any non-conventional propulsion device out there that met your criteria then I and z.monkey and many others here would have built it already; we definately have looked. Instead we spent huge amounts of time and money doing basic research and trying all sort of unguarenteed, partially documented, unsubstantiated things For example:
http://rimstar.org/sdprop
You might end up having to relax your criteria a bit, in which case we'll flood you with suggestions ;D.

One thing you didn't mention in your criteria was whether or not you want it to work in the vacuum of space. Do you?

Quote from: Halifax on January 18, 2009, 05:37:46 AM
Also, does anyone know where I can get articles written by T.T. Brown or any of his associates. Well, articles, patents and any other written material...
For a good collection of patents. Bahnson ones are important too since they are really the results of work by King and Brown while working in Bahnson's lab:
http://ether.sciences.free.fr/

For a recently released biography of Brown:
http://www.ttbrown.com/

All about Brown's gravitator, his "How I Control Gravity" article and his 300,311 patent:
http://www.rexresearch.com/gravitor/gravitor.htm

Brown's notebooks (to my knowledge, no one has Vol. 3):
http://www.rexresearch.com/brown1/brown1.htm
http://www.rexresearch.com/brown2/brown2.htm
http://www.rexresearch.com/brown4/brown4.htm

EDIT:
And then there's the silent footage video of Brown's and King's work in the Bahnson labs. For that, go to:
http://www.integrity-research.org/
and click on "IRI Publications, Reports & Videos" and then "page 5" and look for "Thomas Townsend Brown: Bahnson Lab". I found only 4 minutes of it online:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp4hygoD3RU

That should hold you for a while.  ;D

-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: z.monkey on January 19, 2009, 11:11:47 AM
Check out this link...

http://www.amazing1.com/grav.htm

This is the best collection of books that are available on line.  These guys have been around for decades.  I have bought and read many of these books, which all have volumes of very fascinating theories.  But, again none of them have complete plans...

There are a couple that cover TT Browns work exclusively...

I have read:
"Antigravity and the World Grid"
"Antigravity Handbook"
"Antigravity and the Unified Field"
"UFO's and Antigravity"

While all of these are good reference books, you have to buy them.  In each subsequent purchase  I made I was sure to have found the 'key" to antigravity, but after having read each book I found that I only had a small piece of the puzzle.  This was 15 years ago when I was buying books like this.  Today with the internet and e-books you can get a far greater amount of information for free.  This leads me to my final point...

What you seek is within, not out there...  Your spirit has all the information you will ever need.  You should redirect your search to connect with the universal intelligence available through your own spirit.  This in turn can connect you with the repository of all knowledge, the great universal mind.  Your mind can reach out an access anything that is known anywhere, and is the best research tool you could possibly own.  By first mastering yourself, making a solid connection with your spirit, and understanding the first source you will then be able to easily master any physical task, such as building a electrogravity ship...

OK, Mo Later...

Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: plato on January 31, 2009, 10:09:16 PM
Here are a few design concepts I've worked on over the years which are mainly inspired by the Grangemouth and Falcon Lake UFO incident.  They both share similar characteristics which are not likely to be coincidence.

http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/ElectricUfo.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlbyLxctJcE

Power source is based on the liquid-plasma model of our sun and more information can be found at http://www.thesurfaceofthesun.com/ Please note, the design is incomplete and too expensive for my budget!

Power Reactor (Helium 3 is generated and burned in the transmutation process)

Directional Thrusters (Possibly Relativity Drives. No propellant.)


Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: plato on January 31, 2009, 10:26:21 PM
More illustrations:
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: TinselKoala on February 01, 2009, 02:29:18 PM
Looks pretty good, so far. I think you've got certain details wrong, and it might be a while before I let my penguin fly in yours, but mine is about ready...

Title: Re: Building
Post by: plato on February 03, 2009, 12:46:14 PM
TinselKoala, do you care to elaborate on what may be missing?

The basic idea behind its power generator is Helium3 fuel production(See Arata Cold fusion). There is a waveguide in the variable magnetron which guides the microwaves to a fixed point at the center. In this space is a solution of mainly sulfur, nickel, and deuterium (Same elements in the liquid-plasma sun model). Here is the process in a nutshell:

1. Microwaves excite and heats sulfur under pressure. (Raising deuterium's boiling point is under work)
2. Sulfur heats and bonds with nickel metal
3. Nickel absorbs deuterium and transmutates it into He3 under proper heat and pressure
4. He3 is ionized thereby forming a miniature "sun".
5. Resulting ionized gasses are used to power magnetrons, electrogravitic shell and instrumentation.
6. Waste is expelled and distributed through small round channels in the hull.

Note: waste exhaust is toxic. I believe Stephen Michalak in the Falcon Lake UFO case was exposed and suffered its effects.

I intend to make a small experimental reactor model about the size of 2 cups when funding goes through. As for creating an entire craft, that would take a multi-million dollar budget. Deuterium and saphire crystals don't come cheap.

Title: Re: Building
Post by: TinselKoala on February 03, 2009, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: plato on February 03, 2009, 12:46:14 PM
TinselKoala, do you care to elaborate on what may be missing?

The basic idea behind its power generator is Helium3 fuel production(See Arata Cold fusion). There is a waveguide in the variable magnetron which guides the microwaves to a fixed point at the center. In this space is a solution of mainly sulfur, nickel, and deuterium (Same elements in the liquid-plasma sun model). Here is the process in a nutshell:

1. Microwaves excite and heats sulfur under pressure. (Raising deuterium's boiling point is under work)
2. Sulfur heats and bonds with nickel metal
3. Nickel absorbs deuterium and transmutates it into He3 under proper heat and pressure
4. He3 is ionized thereby forming a miniature "sun".
5. Resulting ionized gasses are used to power magnetrons, electrogravitic shell and instrumentation.
6. Waste is expelled and distributed through small round channels in the hull.

Note: waste exhaust is toxic. I believe Stephen Michalak in the Falcon Lake UFO case was exposed and suffered its effects.

I intend to make a small experimental reactor model about the size of 2 cups when funding goes through. As for creating an entire craft, that would take a multi-million dollar budget. Deuterium and saphire crystals don't come cheap.



I was kidding you a bit. Sorry...but...
I obviously (or maybe not so obviously) believe, with some experimental support, that extremely high potential electric fields are key to UFO propulsion, and that is the direction of my researches. A propulsion and control system that consumes mass and ejects waste products will not, IMHO, be able to sustain itself in the inertialess flight regime that is necessary for radical maneuvering or trans-luminal velocities. Only by stressing space itself with EHV fields will we be able to manipulate the craft as needed. Like squeezing a pumpkin seed. Your electrogravitic shell will do the trick if it incorporates field shapers and polarizers. I made a little "joke" video for the LTLOT thread, but in it I show the functioning of such a polarization shaper.
It is possible that the mercury vortex engine of the Viimaanika Shastra may be a better choice of primary power plant, as it does not require ejection of waste products, as far as I can tell. But your "nano-fusion" plant is intriguing nevertheless...

(Here's the video showing the operation of the field polarizer. You may safely ignore the annotations and video description.)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=f-aP7sk48jw
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: jadaro2600 on February 14, 2009, 01:11:51 AM
Kudos on your radiation spewing monstrosity.  Anything involving deuterium and sulphur is out of the question for me to try and replicate.

Electrostatic propulsion is just as interesting.

@ Tinsel, will that ball still rotate when a lid is placed on the jar and there is negative pressure?
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: Halifax on April 22, 2009, 07:45:20 PM
I said in my first post that I would be unable to pursue the actual lab work without a place to do the work and that I hoped that I would be able to find space in which to do it when I got fully settled. It has come to the point in time where I begin settling.

It is time to open my UFO file again.

In three days I'll know whether I can truly pursue this in the capacity I initially planned. I will attempt at all times to utilize the scientific method. I will admit that I have not been trained in this. I will be keeping the Wikipedia page open as a reference while I do my work and analyse the outcomes.

My work will consist of the following:

1. Capacitors - symmetrical, assymetrical,
2. Gyroscopic/flywheel - counter rotating discs, spinning magnets (SEG/Roschin)
3. ???

I put up a website to chronical this effort in detail. It is http://001179.com

I will be posting here and there. More detail will be posted there as well as patents, related links, etc.

-Hal

PS - It's good to be back.
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: hansvonlieven on April 22, 2009, 07:53:16 PM
Quote from: jadaro2600 on February 14, 2009, 01:11:51 AM
Kudos on your radiation spewing monstrosity.  Anything involving deuterium and sulphur is out of the question for me to try and replicate.

Electrostatic propulsion is just as interesting.

@ Tinsel, will that ball still rotate when a lid is placed on the jar and there is negative pressure?

Can someone please tell me how Deuterium and Sulfur can spew out radiation.  ??? ??? ???

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: Building a UFO
Post by: plato on May 06, 2009, 11:20:35 PM
Quote from: hansvonlieven on April 22, 2009, 07:53:16 PM
Can someone please tell me how Deuterium and Sulfur can spew out radiation.  ??? ??? ???

Hans von Lieven

The microwaves would quickly be absorbed by the water. There is no radiation concern.

FYI; I have eliminated the magnetron + clear vessel and moved on to a simpler design which is basically a thermite (mainly nickel + iron + sulfur mixture) reaction in a barrel of D2/water. The resulting gas will be measured for any helium through spectral analysis.

Success (presence of helium) mainly depends on the molten metal's ability to absorb and compact D2 atoms in its interstitial lattice. I suspect our sun (liquid-plasma sun model) works the same way and intend to validate with experimentation.