I have just researched for some days in the net to get enough information to replicate an experiment to get energy from the vacuum. This experiment shows how we can get more ouput energy than input. I mean, we can charge a capacitor in 1 Msec if we try to replicate the next experiment. In 1 msec we only draw voltage from the battery and we don't draw current from the source. So, we aren't destroying the battery and we will have a free energy device. In 1 msec you can get up to 600 Volts in a bigger cap.
I will replicate the experiment too. But I need to buy some material in the net and maybe I need to wait 1 or 2 weeks until I get the materials. You can replicate this experiment because I know in the USA is more easy to find the materials.
This is the information that anyone can see in a youtube video. The key to free energy devices.
You are only capturing the high BackEMF of the high-inductive coil. That is the reason that you need at least 300 windings...
No OU, sorry...
Quote from: Frederic2k1 on January 29, 2009, 11:05:39 AM
You are only capturing the high BackEMF of the high-inductive coil. That is the reason that you need at least 300 windings...
No OU, sorry...
I haven't replicated this experiment. But in youtube you can see a video where the guy that 'invented' this circuit shows the Negentropic effect. In 1 milisec he gets 200 Volts in a cap.
I know that we need a some time to charge a capacitor, maybe some second or minutes. But this guy can get up to 600 Volts in less than 1 Second. This experiment has been replicated by other user and he gets the same effect. You get energy from the vacuum (negentropic effect), for that reason the output is higher than the input.
How you Can you explain that?
QuoteBut this guy can get up to 600 Volts in less than 1 Second.
The capacitator has a capacity of only 30 uF, it is very easy to charge it in such a short time...
Can you post the link to the youtube-video ?
Quote from: Magnethos on January 29, 2009, 11:09:51 AM
I haven't replicated this experiment. But in youtube you can see a video where the guy that 'invented' this circuit shows the Negentropic effect. In 1 milisec he gets 200 Volts in a cap.
I know that we need a some time to charge a capacitor, maybe some second or minutes. But this guy can get up to 600 Volts in less than 1 Second. This experiment has been replicated by other user and he gets the same effect. You get energy from the vacuum (negentropic effect), for that reason the output is higher than the input.
How you Can you explain that?
He doesn't measure the time at all, so assuming that it was one milisecond isn't an accurate statement. He touches the side of the capacitor it could have been closer to 23 or 40ms. we don't really know, he takes a wild guess. He should use a timing circuit with a relay - for example...something repeatable and predictable.
Lets say then, that you could half-assed charge a capacitor - which is what I would expect would happen; how would you measure your half-ass charged capacitor?
The voltage in the aforementioned video experiment spiked, this can be expected when discharging a large current.. as the current drops, the voltage increases. Another thing to note his initial experiment did not contain an inductive coil. The second one did.
If I were to explain it, i would have to say that there was a shock-wave caused by high current thus inducing a large emf which remained in the capacitor. THIS experiment make no effort what-so-ever to take into account how much current was drawn - or how much heat was created for that matter.
If you or anyone else replicates this experiment, you need to get a large
1, reliable
2, predictable
3 capacitor in place of the battery, and use a battery to charge this capacitor; at which point you allow the experiment to continue as normal - DON'T use a battery as the source for the experiment. Batteries have amazing discharge variability - capacitor are meant to be predictable.
1. at least 3 to 4 times as much uF and an a LOWER voltage rating that the to-be-charged capacitor.
2. test the capacitor for it's reliability ..use a graph to determine it's discharge drop off and make determinations as to how much went from there to here, and here to there. Do this for both capacitors.
3. test it again and again and for a standards analysis for both capacitors.
Can the circuit be used for a pulse motor? That's is the real question. I also imagine that the emf from the collapsing magnetic field could also be used, maybe if the current is decent and the collapsing field is mediated with diodes.
AN absurd reminder or two:
Bifilar windings have capacitance. And...
if you're going to film something, don't put yourself in front on the device you want to display. it's like narrating a tvshow with your back to the audience while everything you talk about is taking place in front of you, the narrator. it's like this; i have a left handed math teacher, and I sit on the right hand side of the classroom. The teacher is almost always between me and the work he's righting on the board.
A link to his videos:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40&feature=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40&feature=channel) and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs&feature=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs&feature=channel)
From the diagram above, the circuit looks like three capacitors - even though one is a coil, two are in series and one is in parallel to the power source. How strange.
Thanks for the links Jadaro,
We can get more detailed info if we see the video.
I saw that video in youtube, and I emailed to the author but I haven't any reply :-\
I don't fully understand that circuit, but this is what I know:
When we draw Pure voltage in that circuit, the positive resistances turn into a negative resistance. Positive resistors scatter energy, and negative resistors get energy from the vacuum. Energy is disordered in the vacuum, but following this process you can re-order that virtual energy from the vacuum (negentropy process). When current saturates the circuit, we have a common positivie resistor that scatters energy.
The questions are:
1. Why that guy splits the positive? (I know Ev Gray used a similar technique called positive splitting)
2. If the guy is using copper wire (I don't know)... the relaxation time of the copper is 1.5 x 10^(-19). Extremely fast. The relaxation time in a conductor is the time that current needs to saturate the circuit.
If we use an alloy of 98% Al and 2% Fe, we can get a relaxation time of 1 msec. But using copper... is impossible in theory.
The theory he used to make his experiment is here:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm
But in the schematics of JLN, we can see the special alloy wire. This is what I don't understand. The guy of the video is using copper as conductor and replicate the same effect using copper is impossible to us. Using copper wire we need to switch on/off in 0.0000000000000000000015 Secs.... impossible.
So... I don't understand why he can get that effect using copper as conductor.
Quote from: Magnethos on January 29, 2009, 05:34:32 PM
The questions are:
1. Why that guy splits the positive? (I know Ev Gray used a similar technique called positive splitting)
I've seen splitting the positive, it ends up exploding batteries. one battery is turned into a diode, which is bad unless your using a nicd battery, where, if your discharge the nicd, then the poles may reverse. don't quote me on that though. there is a battery that will reverse voltages if it's dicharged to much.
I've never witnessed a genuine positive-splitting circuit working.
Quote from: Magnethos on January 29, 2009, 05:34:32 PM
2. If the guy is using copper wire (I don't know)... the relaxation time of the copper is 1.5 x 10^(-19). Extremely fast. The relaxation time in a conductor is the time that current needs to saturate the circuit.
If we use an alloy of 98% Al and 2% Fe, we can get a relaxation time of 1 msec. But using copper... is impossible in theory.
What do you mean by relaxation time? with regard to coils, that is.
I find that floral wire makes a good source of iron wire, it's insulated as well, so that it won't rust. Not sure about the thermal resistivity of dielectric breakdown potentials of that wire though.
Thanks for the info about positive splitting.
Relaxation time constant is the time current needs to saturates the circuit.
This is a factor that is omited in the Ohm's Law.
Each time you draw power in a wire, the voltage appears instantly, but current needs some time to appears. In copper, current appears after the 0.000000000000000000015 Sec. But there is a special alloy that has a relaxation time of 1 Msec. This theory is explained in electromagnetic engineering books. So, in the original schematic is said that if you only draw voltage from the battery, you can charge a capacitor. If you repeat the process, you don't kill (discharge) the battery and you would have a free energy device.
The guy of the video is based on that information, but he has modified the original experiment.
So, when we use some special kind of energy (cold energy? pure voltage?)
the properties of the circuit components, are the opposite. A battery acts like a diode, a positive resistor turns into a negative resistor, etc... So, in theory, a negative resistor gets energy from the vacuum.
After the relaxation time, current saturates the circuit and then, each component of the circuit acts in the common way.... A battery is a battery, a positive resistor is a positive resistor... read the last post to know about the relaxation time constant in a conductor.
This is all too familiar you know; like the Joseph Newman machine. :)
His device essentially avoids that special allow and creates a coil with such high ohmic resistance and impedance that the saturation time is high.
What original experiment was he trying to replicate? ..is there a link to that?
Quote from: jadaro2600 on January 29, 2009, 06:10:07 PM
This is all too familiar you know; like the Joseph Newman machine. :)
His device essentially avoids that special allow and creates a coil with such high ohmic resistance and impedance that the saturation time is high.
What original experiment was he trying to replicate? ..is there a link to that?
Thanks man! I better know what he is doing. I was thinking in something similar. If he increases the saturation time, then he increases the relaxation time constant. So, current maybe needs 1 ms to saturate the circuit instead of 0.00000000000000000015 secs. But there must be a formula to calculate the exact relaxation time when we use a high ohmic resistance and impendance circuit.
So, he is splitting the positive to increase the relaxation time while using copper wire as conductor.
The original experiment I'm talking about is this:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm
In this original experiment is explained that we need a special alloy wire (Al 98%, Fe 2%) where the relaxation time is 1 msec. We need to remember that each material has a different relaxation time. In that alloy, the relaxation time is 1 msec, so, we can draw only pure voltage in that 1 msec, from the battery without affecting the current. The experiment explains that we can charge a capacitor with pure voltage and 0 current if we connect the dipole to the collector (capacitor) in 1 msec. After that 1 msec, we're drawing current from the battery and we're destroying (discharging) the battery.
The key is to use the special alloy wire, connect 1 msec and charge the cap, and then repeat the process again and again. We're only drawing voltage, so we will have an unlimited battery.
In the experiment of youtube, the theory is the same, but we know is very hard to get the special alloy wire. So, the guy 'invents' a new way to increase the relaxation time constant while using copper wire. The experiment is the same as the original al-fe wire. But the guy change the schematic because he needs to increase the relaxation time. So, he is doing the same as the original experiment, but using copper wire and a special configuration (high ohmic - high impendance) to replicate the same experiment.
Quote from: Magnethos on January 29, 2009, 06:25:02 PM
In this original experiment is explained that we need a special alloy wire (Al 98%, Fe 2%) where the relaxation time is 1 msec. We need to remember that each material has a different relaxation time. In that alloy, the relaxation time is 1 msec, so, we can draw only pure voltage in that 1 msec, from the battery without affecting the current. The experiment explains that we can charge a capacitor with pure voltage and 0 current if we connect the dipole to the collector (capacitor) in 1 msec. After that 1 msec, we're drawing current from the battery and we're destroying (discharging) the battery.
The key is to use the special alloy wire, connect 1 msec and charge the cap, and then repeat the process again and again. We're only drawing voltage, so we will have an unlimited battery.
I suppose that the end result if being able to pulse charge a battery or run a pulse motor to recharge a battery. The real question is; will charging a capacitor in this was produce usable current, or will it have to be a voltage based motor? ( as is Joseph Newman's )
Yes, the end result is pulse a charge before current saturates the circuit. Drawing only pure voltage, we are able to charge a cap, then the cap is discharged and we have current + voltage. We can repeat this process to get all energy we need, without affecting the battery, because we aren't drawing current from the battery.
In theory, when we draw common voltage from a source, current appears. So, I think the theory says that current is an effect of the voltage or something similar. So, the theory is that we can use that power from the cap to run any device.
The guy of youtube also says that when drawing pure voltage, the properties of the circuit components are opposite. Battery is a diode, positive resistance is a negative resistance.... So, when only pure voltage is present, the properties of the circuit are different. A negative resistor gets energy from the vacuum throught a process called negentropy.
Since, energy is information. He applies the information theory process. Entropy means disorder. Energy in the vacuum is Virtual Particles in a disordered state. So, using a negative resistor, instead of scattering the energy like a positive resistor, the negative resistor gets energy from the vacuum and the re-order process is automatic.
The problem is the batteries are Negative resistors because a battery draws energy, and that energy comes from the vacuum. If we use orthodox electronics, we're destroying the dipole because we're drawing current and discharging the battery. Current seems to be an effect of the voltage. Because voltage and current are proportional.
If we increase voltage x3 times, current decreases x3 times.
If we increase current x5 times, voltage decreases x5 times.
The guy from the video merges some theories. He splits the positive because Ev Gray also used the positive splitting technique. I think, while splitting the positive, components have opposite properties because they are working with a different energy (cold energy?). Pure Voltage and Cold energy can amplify the input power.
But this doesn't make sense; if you split the positives, in this case, it would be like connect two capacitors in series where charges collide, essentially. Or have I gotten this backward?
If I remember correctly, attaching capacitors in series lowers the total capacitance of the circuit across the outer leads.