http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=53b_1233279992&c=1
No news of this in the US ???
Americans hate the French. God only knows why though, maybe it had something to do with them cashing in on the gold backed dollar back in the day, and then the resulting floating dollar which came about after that.
I don't think the US hates France at all. At least not the people of the US. This post was supposted to bring attention to a global situation. The fact that the US does not bring this news to the main stream media is pretty alarming. No offence, but I just thought ur comment kinda sucked. :( Mabe the post just sucks. Oh well, Let them eat cake or Soilent Green as the case may be.
Hi Moe R,
this link is strange. Although I have the apllian-Player installed and active this link only leads me to the applian-download-section and there is absolutely no way acess to the video itself.
Any suggestions ?
Do I have to register at LifeLeak.com ?
Kator01
I found this in abovetopsecret.com and simply clicked on it. I did not have to register. When I click it here it plays no problem. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/ you should be able to find lotsa stuff here.Good searching!!
G'day all,
This comment was posted by a Canadian in response to the video:
"the french riot when there is a croissant shortage...
Posted 2 days ago by "steveaustin1971"
That is about the significance of it all. Don't read more into it.
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: hansvonlieven on February 01, 2009, 04:17:14 PMDon't read more into it.
Same with Russia and Mexico then? My guess is the French were simply first because they have a little more practice. More countries will follow...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7862294.stm
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/01/31/world/international-us-russia-protest.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jan/31/global-recession-europe-protests
Quote from: jadaro2600 on January 31, 2009, 11:31:17 PM
Americans hate the French. God only knows why though, maybe it had something to do with them cashing in on the gold backed dollar back in the day, and then the resulting floating dollar which came about after that.
I was being facetious, no intent to bias or offend. I was just point out the issue with why the media here in the US doesn't report on french activities unless they directly effect situation here in the US. Mostly, you have to remember that new we americans get from major news sources are of economic or moral consequence. This particular news story about riots in France has a bit to do with the world bank - which has a bit to do with major news outlets; so it's no wonder.
The way I see it, most news stories are intended to create bias emotionally or logically; it's just one mechanism of psychological warfare.
Quote from: jadaro2600 on January 31, 2009, 11:31:17 PMAmericans hate the French.
In a sense true but then also mostly founded on stereotypes and adopted opinions rather than actual experiences. I guess it's mostly that the French arrogance is different from the US (or British or German) arrogance [the arrogance seems to be about the same in magnitude though, just different kinds, in my opinion]. ;D Possibly mostly people who have never lived outside of their culture with an open mind.
Quote from: Trino Cularoid on February 01, 2009, 05:09:37 PM
Same with Russia and Mexico then? My guess is the French were simply first because they have a little more practice. More countries will follow...
These things mean very little. When the Vietnam war was in full bloom there were protests and riots all over the world by people who were against it.
It made absolutely no difference, even though some ex-protesters say otherwise.
What finished the Vietnam war was the fact that the US and their allies got their arses kicked in a big way. Nothing else.
So don't get your hopes up.
Hans von Lieven
Quote from: hansvonlieven on February 01, 2009, 06:51:26 PMThese things mean very little.
One thing that is different though is that currently many people are losing their job. They will have time to express their opinion on the streets -- not just the students... And if you have lost everything already (house, car, job, credit-worthiness) you don't feel like hesitating too much about expressing yourself unmistakably...
Also, communication works differently today (Internet, cell phones with text messages, etc.). It's easier to organize or be part of something.
Quote from: Trino Cularoid on February 01, 2009, 07:04:37 PM
... many people are losing their jobs.
...some jobs aren't worth having, some people only work for money, not for the job. Some jobs are going to be around forever - are those the jobs you want, or are those the jobs that people just get for the money?
Quote from: hansvonlieven on February 01, 2009, 06:51:26 PM
What finished the Vietnam war was the fact that the US and their allies got their arses kicked in a big way. Nothing else.
So don't get your hopes up.
Hans von Lieven
The USA, particularly the military, received a lesson they needed to learn. Nobody's invincible. Unfortunately it seems that
military personalities are slow learners.
The ultimate sour lemon sucked by the USA's
Old Boys military heirarchy at the end of the Vietnam war, was the fall of Saigon to a North Vietnamese
Female General.
Quote from: Trino Cularoid on February 01, 2009, 07:04:37 PM
One thing that is different though is that currently many people are losing their job. They will have time to express their opinion on the streets -- not just the students... And if you have lost everything already (house, car, job, credit-worthiness) you don't feel like hesitating too much about expressing yourself unmistakably...
Also, communication works differently today (Internet, cell phones with text messages, etc.). It's easier to organize or be part of something.
I think you are still very young Trino. If you had been around for a fair while you would know that people who have lost everything are least likely to riot.
Rioters are commonly from well to do backgrounds, better educated than most and mostly young. In fact people with the least legitimate grudges.
Hans von Lieven
...
It's true that people who were poor all their lives are less likely to protest (...most don't even vote, when they really need a voice more than anyone else).
But many of the "newly-poor", who are totally unprepared to not being able to go out for latte's or dinner at a restaurant whenever they feel like it, or who now have to give up the gym and their cell phones... Are much more likely to become politically active.
But they will fall into 2 categories: Those who would protest, and those who would "sell-out" easily: Accepting loss of freedoms for increased economic security... To keep their houses from being foreclosed on, to get "forgiveness" for their credit card debt, or to keep their corporate jobs; many people would embrace a tyranny with open arms and closed mouth.
I'm not too worried about the riots, I'm worried because the news is full of shit, the media is supposed to let the dummies who never read, know what the hell is going on in laymans terms....its creepy and depressing to see people all zombified, listening their ipod or texting on their cellphone or whatever, they don't give a shit about anything but themselves, like drug addicts or something.....
Quote from: jibbguy on February 02, 2009, 04:22:48 PM
many people would embrace a tyranny with open arms and closed mouth.
Ain't that the truth in a nutshell.
Hans von Lieven