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No offense but I can't discern much useful info from that except it's rusty, it's ferrite, and it's definitely a coil of some kind.
Quote from: Farlander on February 01, 2009, 12:14:57 AM
No offense but I can't discern much useful info from that except it's rusty, it's ferrite, and it's definitely a coil of some kind.
That old rusty thing is pretty famous ...
So, where did you find it?
Does it still work?
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You guessed it , this is the "original" , made by "him"
Look like everybody here is gonna have to throught me before working on that .
@ outlawst
Thank you very much for posting these pictures, I have never seen this type of arrangement for coils. I had come across a diagram of the coil awhile back but couldn't picture how it would look like (see below). When you took the coil apart did you notice how the wires were wound and what size they were?
@ All
Has anyone here on the forum ever come across this type of coil arrangement? If so, what is the difference in gain over a bifilar type coil?
Quote from: Goat on February 01, 2009, 12:58:00 PM
@ outlawst
Thank you very much for posting these pictures, I have never seen this type of arrangement for coils. I had come across a diagram of the coil awhile back but couldn't picture how it would look like (see below). When you took the coil apart did you notice how the wires were wound and what size they were?
@ All
Has anyone here on the forum ever come across this type of coil arrangement? If so, what is the difference in gain over a bifilar type coil?
Catn say more , we will wait for the "official release" of this information
Quote from: Goat on February 01, 2009, 12:58:00 PM
@ outlawst
Thank you very much for posting these pictures, I have never seen this type of arrangement for coils. I had come across a diagram of the coil awhile back but couldn't picture how it would look like (see below). When you took the coil apart did you notice how the wires were wound and what size they were?
@ All
Has anyone here on the forum ever come across this type of coil arrangement? If so, what is the difference in gain over a bifilar type coil?
No this is unique , here is the closest thing without the resonant chokes , obviously, everything was removed so nobody could ever use it in case a thief stole it ...
Quote from: AhuraMazda on February 01, 2009, 04:09:39 AM
So, where did you find it?
Does it still work?
Lol it has no wire on it , how could it work ...
Can gun with no bullets shoot ? Can a sword with no edge cut ? Can a cat with no claws scratch ?
Better hurry up I dont have much left , its time to pawn your grandma
http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1185
@outlaw: Thank you very very much for these pictures
I guess you are working for "The Orion Project", as they have now all his stuff. Do you know if they plan to publish all his stuff (e.g. scan his docs and put 'em on the net, and make lot more pics of his stuff, as the two you so perfectly made)
Could you also make a picture of the coils bobbins but with a ruler besides it? Or even shortly measure all the dimensions?
What can we learn from these pictures?
1st) He really didn't hide as much in secrecy as a lot of people think, as also this VIC-Coil is exactly as he drew it in the technical briefs. Even the No of Slits and the deepness relation of the slits is equivalent!
2nd) It's interesting to note, that the secondary slits are smaller but therefore have a bigger distance between each slit, than the bifilar slits.
3rd) The VIC wasn't really very big. It wasn't a huge coil, as some have guessed.
4th)...[your turn... ;)]
BTW: To wind a bobbin in a lot of small sections, as on these coils and the one shown from Dankie is common practice when building HV Coils.
outer section
chokes section
rusty old VIC
Yes this is what's inside the VIC box , this was made by Stan himself . Obviously this coil is the one from figure 6-1and was made with thin S/S wire , it was used for the injector and the buggy . The core is a laminated steel EI core
Hi Outlawst
Why you don't show the coil with the wire?
What size of wire ?
How many turns?
QuoteWhy you don't show the coil with the wire?
Well, look at the last pic!
I can certainly understand and even appreciate that he didn't just tore the whole wound VIC apart to see inside!
QuoteWhat size of wire ?
How many turns?
Well as the layout is exactly as he decribed it in his Technical Briefs I would expect, that the wire sizes and lengths are also exactly as he described it in it.
Really interesting are the different connections on the last Pic. It would really be interesting to have detailed photo shot from the front and rear to see where the different connections are coming from.
And what would really be interesting if somebody could validate how exactly the coils are interconnected and expecially oriented. E.g.if the bifilars do have the same polarity or not. This could easily be done by attaching a small signal generator to one coil and look at the voltage of the other coils on a scope.
Is this a Sub-D Connector at the left side of the VIC?
Lol do you seriously think I know the number of turns lol ??
Unfortunately this is the only pic we will ever see ... Everything has already been sold to Orion .
The wire was taken off by the owner so it couldnt work .
The wire size is probably the size mentionned in the tech brief . The chokes are probably made of .004 430F or F/R wire ...
Quote from: albator10 on February 02, 2009, 10:51:29 AM
Hi Outlawst
Why you don't show the coil with the wire?
What size of wire ?
How many turns?
This VIC is not mine , I am not the owner of Stan's stuff , I am just posting this , I shouldnt even be posting this untill the "official release" of this information .
Dont know number of turns
Wire size is in the tech brief
You can purchase some S/S wire here , for the magnet wire I would call a company like Superior Essex , the Bobbin material is delrin , the core is laminated silicon steel EI core
http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1185
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Ok I admit it .
Those are my own bobbins , its not Stan's lol .. I just took an old transformer and put it on a metal box
I did it to boost my wire sells