People aren't able to agree or accept the simplest of things. Always scheming and manipulating. Always trying to get ahead of the next person. Trying to find an advantage or have leverage against another person. Walking after their own lusts and desires at any cost. Thinking they are better than everyone else. Not able to think on their own accord, Don't have a mind of their own. Always trying to cause division. Never happy, never satisfied, always wanting more.
A house that is divided can not stand. You may say, "There are good people, some will volunteer to help the homeless, volunteer to work in nursing homes, etc. I will say to you, "Why are they doing this volunteer work?" Are they doing it so it will look good on their resume for their own personal gain or able to obtain a higher position or higher status within their community. People have their own agenda. That agenda is getting ahead at any cost, even if it is helping others, it is for their own benefit and gain.
My ex wasn't happy with me doing the dishes. She said she couldn't find anything. Tells me I'm not putting the dishes back in their proper spot. I say, you want to know where the dishes are, then you do the dishes (I was doing dishes so it would benefit me in bed....LOL, I'm guilty of this also). Never satisfied, never happy. Always complaining, always wanting more.
Yes, there are two sides of the coin. What side of the coin are you on? For your own benifit only, or for the benefit of others with no personal gain being achieved from your good works.
Then there our those who will do bad for their personal gain or benefit. I won't even go here.
For those who try to exalt themselves, they will become humbled. For those who are humbled, they will be exalted.
I think we all, including myself, needs to go back into the oven, to become fully baked. I believe this is going to happen weather we like it or not. I am trying to avoid this oven, but this isn't an easy thing to do because of our nature. We all fall short. We can't be perfect, but we sure the hell can do better than what we are doing now.
Can we work together? Can we be happy with what we have? Can we be united without causing division?
It doesn't appear so, because we have our own personal agendas.
QuoteCan we work together? Can we be happy with what we have? Can we be united without causing division?
The giant idol the U.S. has built for itself, in the form of "we the people", has feet of clay mixed with iron.....and is crumbling
Ben Franklin was accosted by an old woman upon exiting the constitutional convention, and asked the question: "Sir what have you given us?" To which he replied, "A republic ma'am, if you can keep it."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7M-7LkvcVw
The implementation of nation state multiculturalism is flawed on it's face. One cannot, nor should not, realistically expect any lasting kind of coherent freedom with unrealizable lofty platitudes 'lighting' the path to oblivion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyTmClBU7nA
It is clear that the powers that be wish to implement a world government with itself installed as 'god' to the people. And if history teaches us anything, It also becomes clear that it would take a God, with Absolute authority, to rule this planet to the benefit of all.
http://www.missiontoisrael.org/articles.php
Sadly, it seems also quite clear that we have chosen, some by default, some by active choice, to first suffer the former....
As forewarned long ago.
God bless
Quote from: gravityblock on March 02, 2009, 10:26:24 AM
... A house that is divided can not stand. ...
It doesn't appear so, because we have our own personal agendas.
I call a divided house a split level house - and it can stand. And you temp to socialism? ..where no one has an agenda that's not shared by all equally?
Welcome to Democracy
The Forfathers of this country have been turning in there graves for a very long time.
greed is everywhere in society, however a few people do manage to do some really good things that you can not really class them as greedy people... for example people who volunteer are not all after a good point for their job interview and really do just want to help people yes they may get a feeling of happiness for doing it but that's natures way to reward, a feeling of love
and you cant really blame people for wanting some comfort like a reasonable house or fuel for heating...
personally I want to find a way of living on nothing and giving up money for good (I really hate how the money system is abused at this moment in time)... if I could find a small cottage with a garden large enough to support food production for myself (and whoever I was living with) each year, I could find a way to heat the home and power it from renewables and live a really good life... maybe then I could show how money is not needed to become happy... but that's not likely, the government would find a way to tax you just too much so you couldn't afford not to work longer and longer hours until you had to give up the house
but my idea would isolate me from society to a large degree so it would not fix anything for anyone else unless people followed the example and started living less greedy lives... people don't need half the stuff they buy, but it is their choice if they want to...
Quote from: jadaro2600 on March 02, 2009, 06:43:25 PM
I call a divided house a split level house - and it can stand. And you temp to socialism? ..where no one has an agenda that's not shared by all equally?
You bring up a good point about socialism. Is it asking too much to agree on the simple, basic, and elementary things in life? We all or most believe killing, theft, etc is not right and should be punishable. There will always be some form of socialism. When we're not able to agree, does this mean we do nothing. Gridlock, stalemate, or hating others for not having the same opinion. Let's at least choose the lesser of the two evils. I am not sure about much of anything anymore. There is one thing I am sure of, and this society is exponentially degrading in morals, ethics, and common good. I don't expect us to be in agreement, since it appears we are on different sides of the coin. A true free society is where we are free to do whatever we like as long as it doesn't hurt or affect anyone in a negative way (This is the form of government we should have). Anything less than that is socialism and not a free society. We are over-regualated and have too many laws. Laws that prevent us from pursuit of happiness.
Quote from: X00013 on March 02, 2009, 06:49:52 PM
The Forfathers of this country have been turning in there graves for a very long time.
Our forfathers never envisioned the state that they setup would turn into a nanny state where it's federal mechanism governed all aspects 'necessary and proper' to safety. Connotes ALL things, obviously ..depending upon which tard you follow around.
Socialism. So what. ....it actually goes against a socialist view to start war in the same way that ( frankly ) any anarchist group which forms organized leadership is technically NO LONGER an anarchy. ...no sh*t.
Honestly, we may be on the same side of your coin. You seem to think there's a coin, :P , and that we are either on one side of it or the other - are you with the Bush party?
Anyway. We have a system. And it's bipolar as f*cking hell. Just look at magnetism ...variations in solar cycles, night and day. It's all haywire bearing high voltage electrified rugs ( law ) and morals. Together these are the form of the beast. Some ground, any ground that the beast stands on is tainted.
Look around. ...there are advertisments circa 2001-2009 which all bear the W letter ...if not right side up, up side down or sideways. Now, we move on to the O...
which was in on us alread. ..overstock.com, the show 'Big O' ...etc. O's are everywhere. Binary even?
Quote from: jadaro2600 on March 02, 2009, 09:23:05 PM
Honestly, we may be on the same side of your coin. You seem to think there's a coin, :P , and that we are either on one side of it or the other - are you with the Bush party?
I'm not with the Bush Party. I realize both parties want to supress it's people and to dominate the world. I need to say no more.
Someone says, "Our Union Sucks", I say, If the Union Sucks, then it's the people who make up the union that sucks.
Someone says, "Our Government Sucks", I say, If the government sucks, then it's the people that makes up the government who sucks.
People will be people no matter what form they take. They always want to control, dominate, suppress others, have weatlth and power.
Don't let anyone steal your Joy. I woke up on the wrong side of the bed today as you can see. I did not start this thread to offend or piss anyone off. If I have done this, then I apologize to all who is offended or pissed off.
We all should want a better life. A better life is up to us or not. <------------- This should be the starting point. Just realize, we can't have a better life if we're screwing other people in the process, cause then they'll try to make our life miserable. It's just common sense, or is the flouridation of the water supply dumbing everyone down, and have no common sense left. Now I sound like Alex Jones.
OK, I've said enough.......wish I could delete this topic.
I'm going to eventually wish I hadn't wrote this but...
There's this thing I like to call Alphabetism, and it has nothing to do with the alphabet. It is essentially the 'ism which comes with an intent to want to be the Alpha of any group. The will or want to dominate others in an attempt to become such an alpha.
..and it has accordion-like consequences. When the so-called alpha eventually looses dominance, it's usually to another alpha figure. However, in alphabetism, the likes of which is more like a mentality or a mode of doing, when the alpha position is lost it ultimate erupts into chaos. A vacuum is is created and it's no Dyson - it the vacuum where destructive chaos reigns.
Our system, social as it may be at times, is entangled legally with itself. THere are aspects of the way it's run governed by the way it's run, it is essentially cyclonic in nature. In the case of the U.S. - there are three elements keeping the government in motion - literally, figuratively, and legally through "motions" made not as gestures but as axioms of 'doing' and 'ways of doing' which is why I classify the US as having an alphabetistic makeup.
If it ever goes kaput - it's going to have it's people see the path the storm left, even if it's sunny days ahead.
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I'm going to eventually wish I hadn't wrote this but...
Nevermind the constitution,
Jadaro for president!
lol
Quote from: SomedayIsle on March 02, 2009, 11:26:02 PM
Nevermind the constitution,
Jadaro for president!
lol
I don't see how he can make it any worst. He has my vote.
Edit: I can't believe I said that. Do I get a full vote Jadaro? lol
LOL, thank you both! I was having a bad now, but now two vote - yay's - for me for president are a swing vote for a better day. :)
You get a full vote - and maybe later a pardon in the back pocket.
Hi folks, the simple fact is society is confused by design and also i think that a government or a constitution will never ever guarantee anything. What the founders wrote were general guidelines to observe for harmony and prosperity to exist, however if the people are deceived and arent spiritually advanced enough to discern the various traps that have been laid out then we experience these so called negative things for our own advancement. Can anyone say that touching a candles flame is wrong, i would say its an experience learned and that goes even for all the folks in government, shadow government and the string pullers behind that. Even they are learning, and soon enough they will learn as all will that love is all there is.
peace, love, light ;)
Quote from: jadaro2600 on March 02, 2009, 06:43:25 PM
I call a divided house a split level house - and it can stand. And you temp to socialism? ..where no one has an agenda that's not shared by all equally?
Hi jadaro,
your very first posting describes very well the lack of society (ies),
i wished my english were good enough to extend that to virtual societies
like communities in the internet. Either named OpenSource or not.
As you can notice in all the threads at this forum,
it is very difficult to come to a common sense or a conclusion.
there are too many "opinions" and just very few people are open to listen to another.
Instead, there is alot of ego blocking.
The idea of "wisdom of all brains together" is very good,
but it almost fails for the reasons you already described.
best sushimoto
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there are too many "opinions" and just very few people are open to listen to another.
Instead, there is alot of ego blocking.
But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! - 2 Timothy 3:1-5
By this you say these things...
Quote from: SkyWatcher123 on March 03, 2009, 05:33:21 AM
Hi folks, the simple fact is society is confused by design and also i think that a government or a constitution will never ever guarantee anything. What the founders wrote were general guidelines to observe for harmony and prosperity to exist, however if the people are deceived and arent spiritually advanced enough to discern the various traps that have been laid out then we experience these so called negative things for our own advancement. Can anyone say that touching a candles flame is wrong, i would say its an experience learned and that goes even for all the folks in government, shadow government and the string pullers behind that. Even they are learning, and soon enough they will learn as all will that love is all there is.
peace, love, light ;)
..meaning that people together - as I say: "society is a conspiracy to be civil" ..my words from elsewhere - any motion against civility is a motion against society. The anti-terror ( ...like those "what is your anti-drug?" commercials ) so to speak. So any war, really, is an acti against civility regardless of the ends by its means.
So, when speaking about virtual agreements, conspiracies among people to 'get along' then...
Quote from: SomedayIsle on March 03, 2009, 12:56:29 PM
But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! - 2 Timothy 3:1-5
...the good book couldn't be more right about the 'end-times'.
Additionally: Our constitution is as real as Santa Claus.
And make what you will of that.
Quote from: SomedayIsle on March 03, 2009, 12:56:29 PM
But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! - 2 Timothy 3:1-5
Hi somdayisle (me too some day :) )
Every Religion and Pilosophy has its own words for the same thing.
Hindus are having the Trinity of Gods; 'Shiva', 'Vishnu' and 'Brahma'.
They are respectively the destroyer, preserver and creator of the universe.
Christians would be impressed by the parallel between the Hindu trinity and that of Christianity.
The same applies to almost every religion and philosophy. Different words, same meaning.
Same for esotherics like the "2012 conspiracy" and such. I can extend this list to infinity
My own pilosophy is almost free in mind and therefore Yoda is true for me as well.
“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”;D
As long as we dont get "Unity" in technical terms at our quest for Energy, we will never get the so called "Overunity".
Our world including economy, ecology, energy, politics, theology, academics, society etc. is not more than 30% united (baked).
There will be a long and painful path to "Unity"
and maybe some day the mankind is able to archive more than that.
"Overunity" will then be called "100% Efficency" in intelectual minds and in every other form of energy.
Best,
sushimoto
Gravityblock,
You sound seriously depressed, have you considered suicide?
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There will be a long and painful path to "Unity"
and maybe some day the mankind is able to archive more than that.
You seem to have much more faith in mankind as a whole, than myself. Man's history is one of empire building and self destruction. Now that man has the capacity for complete world annihilation, on several fronts, his position is more precarious than ever. My God, Yahweh, reveals that He will shorten these days that remain, lest NO FLESH remain alive upon the earth. I don't buy into esoterics and religions based on natural observationalism. Long before the time when eastern religious observers revered the 'fact' that the earth was supported by 4 elephants on the back of a giant sea turtle, and the greeks held that the earth sat upon the shoulders of Atlas, the giant, the Bible revealed that Yahweh, the Creator hung the circle of the earth upon nothing. The bible is the only book that passes muster for me, in that it's observations both past, present, and future have proven quite accurate and most revealing. The Bible revealed that Yahweh is ONE God.....at time when many people practiced "polythiesm". "Triune" gods are the result of polydeist persuasion and I find no support in God's word for belief in a "trinity". The mention in the holy scriptures that God, the Holy Spirit, and Christ are in agreement, carries, for me, no implication that they are co-equal and co-eternal. It is man's way to read much into things, getting lost chasing mysteries which serve to arrest his development.
The Holy Bible goes much further in it's revelations, even revealing who would hold the reigns of power in our day, and what will become of them.
Man has thoroughly proven that he lacks the ability for global self rule.....and has always had quite a time even holding the reigns of national sovereignty.
Of course, time, what remains.....
Will tell.
God bless
Brian334,
I have faith that God is readying a blessing for you. It seems clear you could use one.
Quote from: SomedayIsle on March 03, 2009, 06:14:42 PM
You seem to have much more faith in mankind as a whole, than myself. Man's history is one of empire building and self destruction. Now that man has the capacity for complete world annihilation, on several fronts, his position is more precarious than ever. My God, Yahweh, reveals that He will shorten these days that remain, lest NO FLESH remain alive upon the earth. I don't buy into esoterics and religions based on natural observationalism. Long before the time when eastern religious observers revered the 'fact' that the earth was supported by 4 elephants on the back of a giant sea turtle, and the greeks held that the earth sat upon the shoulders of Atlas, the giant, the Bible revealed that Yahweh, the Creator hung the circle of the earth upon nothing. The bible is the only book that passes muster for me, in that it's observations both past, present, and future have proven quite accurate and most revealing. The Bible revealed that Yahweh is ONE God.....at time when many people practiced "polythiesm". "Triune" gods are the result of polydeist persuasion and I find no support in God's word for belief in a "trinity". The mention in the holy scriptures that God, the Holy Spirit, and Christ are in agreement, carries, for me, no implication that they are co-equal and co-eternal. It is man's way to read much into things, getting lost chasing mysteries which serve to arrest his development.
The Holy Bible goes much further in it's revelations, even revealing who would hold the reigns of power in our day, and what will become of them.
Man has thoroughly proven that he lacks the ability for global self rule.....and has always had quite a time even holding the reigns of national sovereignty.
Of course, time, what remains.....
Will tell.
God bless
I am my own God with my own kingdom of galactic unity.
That makes things in daily life alot easier and more practicable.
Maybe one day, i write my own book of wisdom. I will engrave it in granite, so it will last forever.
It will not be in english, because of my native tounge is different and words are difficult sometimes ;D
...That book could be buried out in 1000 years and who knows what happens.
Time will tell.
Best,
sushi
Somedaylsl,
Take your preaching and shove it up your ass.
When I was conceived I received all the blessing I need.
Quote from: brian334 on March 03, 2009, 06:57:36 PM
Somedaylsl,
Take your preaching and shove it up your ass.
When I was conceived I received all the blessing I need.
When I was conceived someone else orgasmed, when I was born the first thing they did what hit me. Was THAT a blessing?
Quote from: sushimoto on March 03, 2009, 05:45:38 PM
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As long as we dont get "Unity" in technical terms at our quest for Energy, we will never get the so called "Overunity".
Our world including economy, ecology, energy, politics, theology, academics, society etc. is not more than 30% united (baked).
There will be a long and painful path to "Unity"
and maybe some day the mankind is able to archive more than that.
...
Wow, the DOW drops to 6732... and everyone starts up on philosophy and religion. :)
Maybe it should stay DOWn. :P
@brian334, your Pi post was a troll post. :P ...everyone who's depressed should consider expansion. I find it fundamental to physics.
Quote from: brian334 on March 03, 2009, 06:04:42 PM
Gravityblock,
You sound seriously depressed, have you considered suicide?
Quote from: brian334
Somedaylsl,
Take your preaching and shove it up your ass.
When I was conceived I received all the blessing I need.
Did I not already say I woke up on the wrong side of the bed? I never attacked you on a personal level. Why all the hate? lol
I think you having a bad day also.
Quote from: brian334 on March 03, 2009, 06:57:36 PM
Somedaylsl,
Take your preaching and shove it up your ass.
When I was conceived I received all the blessing I need.
Brian,
your post is the best possible example for "Underunity" below zero %.
No matter, which technical skills you may have.
Look at Yoda's claim.. Anger leads to sufffering.
@jadaro my posts are not about religion.
I am talking about that we need pschological unity,
before this community can look for technical Overunity.
sushimoto
Yes, brian has some serious self worth issues. God bless him.
Sushimoto stated the following:
QuoteI am my own God with my own kingdom of galactic unity.
That makes things in daily life alot easier and more practicable.
Maybe one day, i write my own book of wisdom. I will engrave it in granite, so it will last forever.
It will not be in english, because of my native tounge is different and words are difficult sometimes Grin
...That book could be buried out in 1000 years and who knows what happens.
Time will tell.
Which is an integral part of the big problem in the world. Way too many little g's looking to make things in their own lives easier and more practicable.
Truth exists despite, and often apart from, the individual.....Once one learns to appreciate this fact, one can begin to better recognize, benefit from, and help others benefit from it's experience.
Telling the truth in times of nearly universal deceit, can be a revolutionary act.
God bless
Quote from: SomedayIsle on March 04, 2009, 01:50:48 PM
Which is an integral part of the big problem in the world. Way too many little g's looking to make things in their own lives easier and more practicable.
Truth exists despite, and often apart from, the individual.....Once one learns to appreciate this fact, one can begin to better recognize, benefit from, and help others benefit from it's experience.
Telling the truth in times of nearly universal deceit, can be a revolutionary act.
God bless
And "Shiva the destroyer" is a terrorist?
Every religion has their figures.
... Your God was nailed to a cross. Not very wise.
Cheers,
sushi
Quote from: sushimoto on March 05, 2009, 03:17:54 AM
And "Shiva the destroyer" is a terrorist?
Every religion has their figures.
... Your God was nailed to a cross. Not very wise.
Cheers,
sushi
Not very wise from the ones who done and
is doing the nailing.
Quote from: gravityblock on March 05, 2009, 07:51:48 AM
Not very wise from the ones who done and is doing the nailing.
Yep agree!
None of the sides are very wise... ancient rome is gone as well. ;D
QuoteYour God was nailed to a cross. Not very wise.
Cheers,
Yes, "cheers" indeed. ::)
Yet another problem with the "little g's" unto themselves all running around judging one another on the basis of puerile labelism. If sushimoto had actually 'investigated' the Holy Bible for himself, he would have discovered that Yeshua, Jesus Christ never claimed to be God, but to be the firstborn Son of God. Less than His Father.
No, my God, Yahweh, was not nailed to a cross, though I'm sure to Him it felt like it on that day.
The truth is actually quite simple that even a child understands:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juEACGmrXC8
"You must become as a child to enter the Kingdom of heaven." - Yeshua, Jesus Christ
http://arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm
God bless
Quote from: gravityblock on March 02, 2009, 10:26:24 AM
People aren't able to agree or accept the simplest of things. Always scheming and manipulating. Always trying to get ahead of the next person. Trying to find an advantage or have leverage against another person. Walking after their own lusts and desires at any cost. Thinking they are better than everyone else. Not able to think on their own accord, Don't have a mind of their own. Always trying to cause division. Never happy, never satisfied, always wanting more.
A house that is divided can not stand. You may say, "There are good people, some will volunteer to help the homeless, volunteer to work in nursing homes, etc. I will say to you, "Why are they doing this volunteer work?" Are they doing it so it will look good on their resume for their own personal gain or able to obtain a higher position or higher status within their community. People have their own agenda. That agenda is getting ahead at any cost, even if it is helping others, it is for their own benefit and gain.
My ex wasn't happy with me doing the dishes. She said she couldn't find anything. Tells me I'm not putting the dishes back in their proper spot. I say, you want to know where the dishes are, then you do the dishes (I was doing dishes so it would benefit me in bed....LOL, I'm guilty of this also). Never satisfied, never happy. Always complaining, always wanting more.
Yes, there are two sides of the coin. What side of the coin are you on? For your own benifit only, or for the benefit of others with no personal gain being achieved from your good works.
Then there our those who will do bad for their personal gain or benefit. I won't even go here.
For those who try to exalt themselves, they will become humbled. For those who are humbled, they will be exalted.
I think we all, including myself, needs to go back into the oven, to become fully baked. I believe this is going to happen weather we like it or not. I am trying to avoid this oven, but this isn't an easy thing to do because of our nature. We all fall short. We can't be perfect, but we sure the hell can do better than what we are doing now.
Can we work together? Can we be happy with what we have? Can we be united without causing division?
It doesn't appear so, because we have our own personal agendas.
I agree all this. Humans will follow its insticts. We are not as civilized as we want to think we are. We are animals like any other creature on this planet - struggeling for survival, do whatever we can to get more. But among all people on this planet, there are people with slightly different instincts, those who want to help others. However, benifits and values are conservative, what good you do to another person will do good for you too. So there is basicly two ways to survive: Fight for yourself only and forget others need, or helping others knowing that this help will benifit yourself in the long run. These two types are then: the strong and stupid ones, and the weak and smart ones.
The world must have both to survive.
br.
Vidar
Quote from: SomedayIsle on March 05, 2009, 01:22:38 PM
Yet another problem with the "little g's" unto themselves all running around judging one another on the basis of puerile labelism. If sushimoto had actually 'investigated' the Holy Bible for himself, he would have discovered that Yeshua, Jesus Christ never claimed to be God, but to be the firstborn Son of God. Less than His Father.
I did read. I have read all of the books.
Bible, Talmud, Tanakh, Tibetian rolls, Shintoism, Buddhism,Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism, Islam, Zoroastrism, Baha'i, Konfuzianism and Taoism.
Plus, I have studied about most of the Philosphies and Politics.
Did you?
What do you want from Us?
Are you claiming that your "Label" should rule the world?
I don't know what you want, but leave me in peace with your dogma.
I'm so tired about persistant rigid brains.
Open your mind or go away to your isle.
Amen,
sushimoto
PS: What is a "G"?. We dont have that in our country. Gangsters, Gents or Gods?
PPS: @Low-Q
Agree.
Darwin?
QuoteI did read. I have read all of the books.
Yet you denigrate based upon misperception and falsehood. It's starting to look more like you skimmed "all" the books right up to the talmud, read it in it's entirety and decided to stop there.
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
At least try and give a bit of "due diligence" before spewing sophomoric vitriol against "dogma" as you put it. And to clarify, "little g's" refers to those, like yourself, who worship one's own intellect, call themselves 'gods'....little gods as opposed to our Creator.
Christ's teachings are without fault.
The world is in the condition it's in for denying the Truth of His words.
God bless your heart sushimoto, clearly, much has been done to it to leave it in such cynical condition.
Nothing but love for ya, sushimoto, tough as that may seem.
Quote from: SomedayIsle on March 05, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
At least try and give a bit of "due diligence" before spewing sophomoric vitriol against "dogma" as you put it. And to clarify, "little g's" refers to those, like yourself, who worship one's own intellect, call themselves 'gods'....little gods as opposed to our Creator.
What? Your God created me? wow. I thought, my father did.
How can you be so shure, that your god is a man?
Is that, what you are teaching your children?
Your little girls must be sad abaout that.
BTW. I was not claiming to be God. I was saying, that i am my own god.
Thats a big difference.
And if your god has created my car.
.... It could use new brakes and some gas in the tank..
And please tell him to feed my family too.
Yes, i get cynic. At the beginning, i was open to discuss objectively with you.
But you are constantly just preaching.
Shalom,
sushimoto
Quote from: Low-Q on March 05, 2009, 02:32:50 PM
Fight for yourself only and forget others need, or helping others knowing that this help will benifit yourself in the long run. These two types are then: the strong and stupid ones, and the weak and smart ones.
The world must have both to survive.
br.
Vidar
Every person is equally stupid as they are intelligent. Some just choose to be stupid more often than intelligent.
There are two things that have been occurring since the fall of man. 1) The deceiver (the Destroyer) of this world has told God (the Creator) that man can successfully govern themselves without God's help. 2) The deceiver of this world also told God that he can turn all men away from God.
The deceiver, in the process of trying to turn all men away from God, has proven that men can not successfully govern themselves without God's help. The deceiver of this world can not win, because he can't prove both to be correct.
In fact, he can't even prove one to be correct since it is contrary to the other. Jesus, Yeshua, Son of God, first born of all creation, was sent into this world as a man, to prove that the deceiver can not turn all men away from God. The Son of God remained obedient even unto death, thus the deceiver is defeated. Since the deceiver is defeated and knows his time is short, he will devour all he can.
There are many in this world, who choose to believe they evolved from a lower species or a bacterium. They can have there belief. That bacterium is not going to save them from a spiritual death. I will place my faith on evolving from a higher being. I'll put my faith not in the bacterium, but will put my faith in a higher being for eternal spiritual life. They fail to realize, even a bacterium was brought forth from something. God is the creator from which all things exist, both visible and invisible. Man or other beings lower than God, was not brought forth from nothing. Nothing = 0, and Infinity = All or everything. We have an existence, so our existence had to of come from the infinity (God) and not from nothing.
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These two types are then: the strong and stupid ones, and the weak and smart ones.
The world must have both to survive.
LowQ, would you mind clarifying further why it is that you believe both groups are necessary for the world to survive? The Roman army, the 'first beast' spoken of in the scriptures, comprised of some strong and stupid ones, blindly followed orders in nailing Christ to the cross, yet Christ asked our Father in Heaven to forgive them, 'for they know not what they do'. The 'beast' spoken of in the book of the Revelation regarding this day and age is also a military machine, blindly following orders of spiritual prostitutes. The bible very accurately describes those holding power at this late hour:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297062.shtml
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html
http://yerekmessage.blogspot.com/2008/06/worship-not-his-star-his-symbol-his.html
http://www.hornes.org/theologia/mark-horne/what-is-the-worth-of-666-talents-of-gold
Truly, the evidence is everywhere!Check out:
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/fdd8be5edb.jpg
The company, fittingly enough named DigiMARC, makes the new driver's licenses for over 30 U.S. states. Notice the insignia is comprised of 3 color coded six pointed stars.
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/799f8af9fb.jpg
Check out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoYvbcYKz2M
Christ warned that in in these days, a time when the 'beast', which would have the power to call down 'fire' from heaven (weather control), would take dominion over the air even going into space.... this body of highly compromised and duped minions of the evil one would seek to cause all to receive it's mark or worship the number of it's name. The evidence points to the fact that soon, as the world economy has finished it's perniciously programmed course, none may buy or sell except those that have the devil's own 'seal of approval'. And what is to become of those 'weak and smart' ones? Many may be housed in one of the many concentration camps which currently sit empty around the world.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/577.html
Christ stated that the meek, (those weak and smart ones), will inherit the earth. That God will separate the two groups, one on His Right and one on His Left. The sheep and the goats.
He stated that those on His left will be "cast into 'outer darkness' where their weeping and gnashing of teeth will be."
Obviously, they will have time to think about things they've done.
God bless
QuoteBTW. I was not claiming to be God. I was saying, that i am my own god.
Thats a big difference.
Yes indeedy....
An astronomically
Big difference, hence my use of the term "little g's"....As opposed to
God, Yahweh, (meaning: He causes to become) the One True God.
So I guess you'll get to see how that "being your own god" thing works out for you......
"Surely you will NOT die, for you will be as gods knowing both good and evil." - lucifer the fallen one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
The devil tried that 'being a god unto one's self' thing....and it's not looking too good for him.....what with being the father of the lie, the author of confusion.
Sow the wind, reap the Whirlwind...
At any rate, God bless you, sushimoto, god unto yourself.
As with the wind, so to with the devil - to some it chills, and other's it kills. But one thing's for sure - the wind comes and goes.
At the rate of things, not for too much longer will the world have to endure his comings and goings.
God bless you jadaro, you have a gift for rhyme.
Somedaylsd,
What and the hell are you doing in this forum?
Give us a break go preach somewhere else.
We're all preachers....all who share beliefs. Some are based on solid evidence, some aren't. Sharing belief in the possibility of 'free energy' is evangelism in itself.
Why even you, brian, with your debasing juvenile advocations are, in effect, preaching.
Nihilism.
But preaching nonetheless.
God bless
I say he comes and goes.
If the devil comes and goes, then so too does evil.
But if the devil is constant, people become averse it it's effects. I think society is half baked - indeed. The idea is that, with evil coming and going, there is this alternating current flowing. The more it flows, the more heat builds up - a tension in the system.
Soon enough, things melt if there too much in one direction or another suddenly.