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The problem with using gravity as a useful force is its ability to pass through basically anything unaffected.
My challenge to this group is to identify any material or method that reduces or increases the force of gravity.
The physics are well known. Many attempts to use gravity have all failed due to the force always remaining constant.
The only workable solution must therefore be something that somehow alters the force in a specific location.
This is an opportunity for the true masters to show their stuff. ::)
Greetings truth
Manipulation and leverage. If you cant beat it join it. Just that simple. KIND OF. ;D
This is an easy one. " Method of reducing or increasing the force of gravity "
On a gravity wheel mount one weight close to the axle at the 9 o'clock position and another of equal weight at the 3 o'clock position at the perimeter of the wheel.
Now let go.
One weight raises and one weight falls.
I would say this qualifies as reducing the force of gravity on the one weight. :)
My challenge to this group is to identify any material or method that reduces or increases the force of gravity.
The solution is to change the relative weight of a object.
You ask?
Relative to what?
A liquid.
The problem with using gravity as a useful force is its ability to pass through basically anything unaffected.
The complete opposite is true, gravity pulls down a liquid pushing
lighter things up.
The question is how to make the object heavier than the liquid
it displaces on the down side, than at the bottom change to lighter
than the liquid it displaces, than at the top change back to being
heavier than the liquid it displaces.
You cannot change the force of gravity, you can only redirect its resulting impact on objects...
Store kinetic energy created by gravitational force in springs e.g...
Create dampening material on rotors or created rotors on the same wheel out of different materials
The difference in kinetic energy release upon impact generates acceleration in the second case. (if talking wheels here)
It has been suggested that type 1 superconductors can be used to "lens" gravity. Also, when spun, they develop a large gravitomagnetic moment in the vicinity of the rotating mass.
Greetings all,
@ AB HAMMER,
"if you can't beat it join it"
Is that the same as a method to increase the effect of gravity?
@ overtaker,
"one weight raises and one weight falls" ONCE
@ Brian334,
Sir do you know the difference in behavior of gases and liquids in terms of buoyancy effects?
Hint: viscosity
Sir please identify any object or material that does not have gravity passing through it unaffected?
@ Aquariuz,
Any redirect I have have found expends energy and is a net loss.
If you can explain a method that is not a net loss please share it with us.
@ zerotensor,
Very interesting thinking, but it seems that those methods are like building a nuclear reactor to power a flashlight.
@ pmotion,
Dams function because of a lowering of the level of the water passing through them. You may have one dam that uses 100% of the fall, or two that use 50%, but never two or more that use more than 100% combined.
Thanks for the serious replies,
Truth
Quote@ zerotensor,
Very interesting thinking, but it seems that those methods are like building a nuclear reactor to power a flashlight.
Hmm, a nuclear-powered flashlight...
http://www.google.com/patents?id=vcg0AAAAEBAJ (http://www.google.com/patents?id=vcg0AAAAEBAJ)
Quote from: zerotensor on April 22, 2009, 06:06:09 PM
Hmm, a nuclear-powered flashlight...
http://www.google.com/patents?id=vcg0AAAAEBAJ (http://www.google.com/patents?id=vcg0AAAAEBAJ)
LOL
Only in the Army.................
Quote from: P-Motion on April 24, 2009, 12:38:59 PM
Truth,
If you look at my 3 weighted design, it uses gravity twice.
Jim
If you would please, providing a link to it would be helpful!
Thanks ::)
what is this talk of liquid and floating business
surely it would be because the mass of an object being less dense would float, because the pull of gravity would be greater upon the more dense material
maybe figure a way to efficiently make a material more then less dense to create a vertical movement, whereupon making it less dense allowing it to sink again
(i.e. ice floats when cooled, a vessel of water in a pool or larger container of water could be cooled to freeze and become boyant, whereupon the cooling mechanism is halted and vessel is allowed to return to bottom via weights, etc etc)
not necessarily a way to shield gravity as you suggest but maybe an alternative way of harnessing it
might not have been what your looking for but it was my initial response to the topic of viscosity and gravitational effect on liquids
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OK P,
I looked at that "Three Weight" thing or idea or just plain incomplete post of yours.
It appears that no one has understood what you are suggesting, including me.
It appears to be just another big round balanced object. I don't see where it uses gravity even once much less twice.
Perhaps you could CLARIFY what you are thinking?
Hi truth,
I wish I could give you the answer today but.
Electric and magnetic fields differ from the gravitational field in that the flow of ether in electric and magnetic fields is always confined to limited regions.
It ether passes from negative to positive charges, around a closed circuit, whereas in a gravitational field the ether merely passes through any body that is in its path.
That is the reason why all efforts to screen or otherwise control the gravitational field have been unsuccessful.
The problem, however, is not entirely hopeless.
The very fact that the gravitational field acts more effectively on protons, than upon electrons, seems to show that gravitational ether currents do co-act in some specific manner with electrically charged particles, and when we determine the manner in which they co-act, then we shall be in a better position to solve the problem of Gravity Control.
:)
Hello Phiscience,
Thanks for your very thoughtful response.
After a little research I discovered that magnetic fields are the same in the vacuum of space as here on Earth. That means that magnetic fields are unaffected by gravity. While not particularly useful right now, that is an interesting observation that may provoke a useful idea sometime.
A question:
Is a magnetic field confined to a limited region, or simply weaker at greater distance into infinity?
Of course, I understand that below a certain level the field would become irrelevant.
With respect to protons and electrons:
I wonder if a material could be charged and/or discharged to interact with gravity differently? :-\
drop a magnet in a copper tube, lorentz force directs an upward force on the magnet, fighting gravity, making it "lighter"
throwing it up the tube, makes an upward directional force on the magnet, making it heavier
in a cycle the system would make a magnet lighter on the way down, and heavier on the way up, fighting gravity and then adding to gravity
Mr. Bojangles,
Thanks for the thoughtful response. My first thought was "wow, that could be great" and then I saw that this change in the effect of gravity is exactly the opposite of what would be helpful.
It takes more to lift and gives back less on the fall.
Also the combined weight of the tube with a magnet in it is exactly unchanged, except for a resistance loss in change during the exact time of the fall.
It is interesting, and I will think about how this could be useful.
Thanks again,
Truth