http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjmrQozyz3Y
Not mine, I just found it on YouTube.
/Eric
Quote from: eavogels on April 26, 2009, 03:40:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjmrQozyz3Y
Not mine, I just found it on YouTube.
/Eric
hello
I put this concept a few months ago
http://www.econologie.info/share/partager/1232026693GKOdmi.jpg
see :
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6584.msg150834#msg150834
Nice, did you get something working?
Quote from: eavogels on April 27, 2009, 03:38:06 AM
Nice, did you get something working?
I know the factory that build it
but , todate , there is nothing working
wait and see
Quote from: tagor on April 27, 2009, 06:55:27 AM
I know the factory that build it
but , todate , there is nothing working
wait and see
I couldn't wait and I made a replication. For me, the ring is rotating as well. But I show on the video that rotating is also achieved when holding the ring over a maget alone.
When I move the rope with the ring, after it rotated, it rotates back. And when I replaced the rope with a fishing rope, there was no rotation. Seems that twisted rope gets untwisted, when under pressure. See the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUc7qFnHDw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUc7qFnHDw)
Sorry that the text is in Dutch, but the video shows it all.
Regards,
Eric.
Quote from: eavogels on May 16, 2009, 08:30:16 AM
I couldn't wait and I made a replication. For me, the ring is rotating as well. But I show on the video that rotating is also achieved when holding the ring over a maget alone.
When I move the rope with the ring, after it rotated, it rotates back. And when I replaced the rope with a fishing rope, there was no rotation. Seems that twisted rope gets untwisted, when under pressure. See the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUc7qFnHDw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUc7qFnHDw)
Sorry that the text is in Dutch, but the video shows it all.
Regards,
Eric.
ok very good !
I don't trust yannicksonic ( this is a con man )
what he is saying ?
I think there is a trick with the string
can you use a nylon string ?
( totaly unfold and stable at the beginning )
Quote from: tagor on May 16, 2009, 11:41:45 AM
ok very good !
I don't trust yannicksonic ( this is a con man )
what he is saying ?
I think there is a trick with the string
can you use a nylon string ?
( totaly unfold and stable at the beginning )
As I wrote: when the tring is stretched, it winds back from it natural twist. So yes; that makes it rotate. I also wrote that I already tested with a fishing line (that is not twisted) and it does not work.
What is a con man?
QuoteWhat is a con man
Basically a liar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlatan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick
Hmm,
in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsb3xswaeIo
he shows it, that it also works
with a not twisted string.
So does it also work when the string
is put on a static stator arm holder ?
Quote from: hartiberlin on May 21, 2009, 10:00:39 PM
Hmm,
So does it also work when the string
is put on a static stator arm holder ?
No, of course it doesn't. It's just lateral movements of the ring on a moving holder, just like the silly ball and hand held magnet ring. They chase the ball around trying to keep it spinning, and thereby apply propulsion. The string also winds up and releases.
Quote from: hartiberlin on May 21, 2009, 10:00:39 PM
Hmm,
in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsb3xswaeIo
he shows it, that it also works
with a not twisted string.
So does it also work when the string
is put on a static stator arm holder ?
sorry Stephan
but yannicsonic is a con man
he is selling plan of scam stuff on ebay
this string is a bad trick
Quote from: hartiberlin on May 21, 2009, 10:00:39 PM
he shows it, that it also works
with a not twisted string.
Since from the start, the ring and the magnet already have stretched the rope, the rope untwisted outside the camera picture and therefore the ring AND the magnet are in rest. When he releases the ring, it get so much lighter and so see the ring turn in the other directing, since the rope is twisting again.
Eric.
Quote from: eavogels on May 22, 2009, 12:43:12 AM
Since from the start, the ring and the magnet already have stretched the rope, the rope untwisted outside the camera picture and therefore the ring AND the magnet are in rest. When he releases the ring, it get so much lighter and so see the ring turn in the other directing, since the rope is twisting again.
Eric.
It is also making small lateral movements by virtue of being suspended on a string, which interact with the magnet and create spin.
Now there is another page:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Swiss_Ring_Magnet_Motor (http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Swiss_Ring_Magnet_Motor)
You see, it's like the Mylow: not difficult to let everybodey believe it is something. By the way: the "video Ring Test 2" on that page is mine (my voice in Dutch explaining about the rope. The translation says something else... strange... The orinibal HiRes video is here
http://fdp.nu/vortexmotor (http://fdp.nu/vortexmotor)
/Eric
Quote from: eavogels on May 22, 2009, 03:43:07 AM
Now there is another page:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Swiss_Ring_Magnet_Motor (http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Swiss_Ring_Magnet_Motor)
You see, it's like the Mylow: not difficult to let everybodey believe it is something. By the way: the "video Ring Test 2" on that page is mine (my voice in Dutch explaining about the rope). It's called "proof of concept". Those are not my words. The translation says something else... strange... The original HiRes video is here
http://fdp.nu/vortexmotor (http://fdp.nu/vortexmotor)
/Eric
Quote from: nyctuber on May 21, 2009, 10:05:15 PM
No, of course it doesn't. It's just lateral movements of the ring on a moving holder, just like the silly ball and hand held magnet ring. They chase the ball around trying to keep it spinning, and thereby apply propulsion. The string also winds up and releases.
No,
that is not the case in the last video URL I posted.
It seems to be working due to eddy currents.
It has nothing to do with the string !
Too bad that I am currently not at home,
where I have some magnets to try it.
Quote from: eavogels on May 22, 2009, 12:43:12 AM
Since from the start, the ring and the magnet already have stretched the rope, the rope untwisted outside the camera picture and therefore the ring AND the magnet are in rest. When he releases the ring, it get so much lighter and so see the ring turn in the other directing, since the rope is twisting again.
Eric.
Are you sure Eric ?
With what rope or string did you try it ?
Maybe you can again post a video with the thing hanging
on a static stand holder ?
Please use a non twisting fishing line or a small
copper wire or something like this.
Many thanks.
Law of Unwinding Torsion Fibers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFGQArnNGIc
Quote from: eavogels on April 26, 2009, 03:40:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjmrQozyz3Y
Not mine, I just found it on YouTube.
/Eric
Hi All,
See also:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Swiss_Ring_Magnet_Motor
I just ended a duplication of this effect (which is real and funny) and here is the conclusion of my tests.
The suspending wire is a sewing thread. Such a thread is constituted by several strands wrapped around each other.
When the ring is attracted by the magnet, the tension of the thread makes the torsion of the strands to produce a torque that spins the ring.
This is confirmed by the following facts:
- when you attach a weight to the ring, simulating the same force as the magnet produced, the ring rotates without magnet (naturally not so quickly than with the magnet, due to the inertia of the weight attached to it)
- when you use a single strand, the ring doesn't spin over the magnet.
- it is not a question of current: when the ring is open, the ring still rotates (assuming a thread with multi-strands).
- it is not a question of magnetic field: the direction of the rotation doesn't depend on the orientation of the magnetic field but depends on the direction in which the strands are wrapped in the thread (clockwise in my case).
So it's not at all the way for FE. I have quickly debunked this scam of "Magnetic Vortex Motor" or "Swiss Ring Magnet Motor" (as called at Peswiki) because I am afraid it becames as time wasting as Mylows's story... :-)
Without accompanying technical drawings and explanations, videos are worth
less than a chocolate teapot.
When are we going to understand this?
Look at the space and bandwidth wasted on the Mylow fiasco. Let us learn from
previous mistakes and save the valuable traffic allowances for stuff that matters.
Paul.
Quote from: hartiberlin on May 22, 2009, 07:33:54 AM
Are you sure Eric ?
With what rope or string did you try it ?
Maybe you can again post a video with the thing hanging
on a static stand holder ?
Please use a non twisting fishing line or a small
copper wire or something like this.
Many thanks.
Stephan
without a doubt this scam does not work
eric try with a fishing line
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7363.msg179060#msg179060
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7363.msg179131#msg179131
all this craps are from the french-con-man-yannicksonic
if you have a lot of euros buy all this plans
how can you spend so many time on bullshit
on mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com
in response to
Quote
> does your being french have relevance to the claim that it is a scam?
> that said, that video does not prove much. has there been any replication of that?
> bill keiser
no , the only relevance is :
I put the concept of this vortex on overunity.com a few month ago
I know PMI who project to produce this vortex on big scale
I am in contact with the builder of this vortex and I project to meet him
and I know very well the con man yannicksonic who is selling a lot of plan
I debunk this scam artist on numerous french forum
that's all
I think that sterling is playing with fire
Quote from: exnihiloest on May 22, 2009, 08:10:26 AM
See also:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Swiss_Ring_Magnet_Motor
The strange thing is that on that site, the video that is called "Ring Test 2" has the description: Proof of concept free energy with a magnet and a metal ring test.
Well, that video is taken in my workshop and the english translation of my Dutch comments says different things.
Eric.
Quote from: hartiberlin on May 22, 2009, 07:27:08 AM
No,
that is not the case in the last video URL I posted.
It seems to be working due to eddy currents.
It has nothing to do with the string !
Ah, okay. Thanks. Perhaps a winner after all?
I get what the guy was trying to show (suppsoedly) in the video with the circular setup, the ring is supposed to show some sort of vortex. The problem is, in the second video he holds it over the single pole of a neo magnet. That one certainly does not show any usable 'vortex'
Quote from: eavogels on May 25, 2009, 01:17:53 AM
The strange thing is that on that site, the video that is called "Ring Test 2" has the description: Proof of concept free energy with a magnet and a metal ring test.
Well, that video is taken in my workshop and the english translation of my Dutch comments says different things.
Eric.
yes yannickSUPERsonic is a con man
Quote from: nyctuber on May 25, 2009, 01:26:11 AM
I get what the guy was trying to show (suppsoedly) in the video with the circular setup, the ring is supposed to show some sort of vortex. The problem is, in the second video he holds it over the single pole of a neo magnet. That one certainly does not show any usable 'vortex'
did you bought this crap ?
Quote from: tagor on May 25, 2009, 02:14:40 AM
did you bought this crap ?
The second video IS me, I have nothing to do with the other videos. I made the device and tested it on my workshop table. I also showed the same untwisting rope over a single magnet. That's what I explain in the clip.
I didn't bought the plans, I bought material for 200 US$. And I turned the part on my lathe.
Hi all,
Two other interesting video on the principle of vortex, N°1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPCObs6mmyc&feature=channel_page), N°2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0lTBesyhbA&feature=channel_page).
The inventor will sell Demonstrator in some time.
I will forward the information.
regards
He's back, with an 'overunity' setup.
Must be the magic magnet coupling...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-MQvzOCNSI
Quote from: Asymatrix on June 07, 2009, 10:17:20 PM
He's back, with an 'overunity' setup.
Must be the magic magnet coupling...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-MQvzOCNSI
I know this system
it does not works
he is definitely a con man
Quote from: tagor on June 08, 2009, 12:27:03 AM
I know this system
it does not works
he is definitely a con man
This guy seems to be on a mission to rip people off.
Quote from: Asymatrix on June 08, 2009, 04:45:17 AM
This guy seems to be on a mission to rip people off.
yes
he is selling plans on ebay
dont buy them !!