Who knew it was that easy ?
More here...
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/story/779860.html
Regards...
Look there are lots of valid reasons for dis'ing Obama, but using that UTTERLY DISCREDITED thingie about his birth status won't work at all and will only make those who try look like imbeciles... There are archived "Birth Announcements" in the Hawaii newspapers that prove he was born in the U.S. (and the stuff about the birth certificate being "faked" was also completely exploded). That and dozens of witnesses say: DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THIS ONE.
He is "legitimately" President, but what does that mean lol? Considering "GW" was too, it means nothing special, and that even morons and murderers can be elected if the corporate plutocracy backs them. What bothers me (and makes me question my Country's general mental health lol), is that many of the peeps who are now attacking Obama for any silly thing they can (like this), worshiped bush and backed him through everything.. Supporting and doing many of the same things Obama is doing now ;)
Do they see the logic problems with this, lol? Do they care? Apparently the capability for independent and critical thought is not a requirement for joining this group ;)
The Red vs Blue deliberate polarization of the US in every way is all about Tribalism, all about using instinct and division against us as a method of control.... We should be smarter that by now, huh? But many are not, and i guess real Enlightenment won't come to the world until this is somehow solved.
Except for some unofficial documents held up as proof, I have not seen any evidence whatsoever to verify Obomba's true nationality.
There has been no signed birth certificate produced that I've seen...and I've been watching for it...unless it happened in the last few days, and hasn't leaked out yet.
Plus, he deserves every bit of negative press he gets, for what he's a party to.
Regards...
Obama obtained a copy of his Birth Certificate. It is stamped with a signature, as is common practice.
Photo of Birth Cirtificate: (yet again)
http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg
Factcheck.org
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/has_a_smoking_gun_been_found_to.html
Young Turks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB1opCUt4zk&feature=popular
None of that stuff is a "birth cirtificate".
Having some talking head holding up a document dated June 2007, to the effect that Obomba was born in Hawaii, is not a birth cirtificate.
As we all know lawyers and judges are not all totally honest, so any one of the crooks that litter that field could have been used to sign his name on that "document".
So far all I have seen are countless blocks put up in front of any who sought a true certificate of birth.
The smell of BS around this latest war criminal president still lingers.
Regards...
This is going to spread like wildfire Cap-z-ro.
Since all Obama has to do is produce the long-form copy of his Birth Certificate to squelch it all, it is obvious that he has plenty to hide.
The majority of the United States Citizens have no idea about this, and they have all been fooled by the short-form Hawiian Certificate of Live Birth that was posted. That Certificate was used by citizens and non-citizens to register live births in foreign countries.
John McCain's birth was thouroughly scrutinized because he was born outside US borders, but was a child of both a father and a mother that were US citizens. Obama was a child of a mother who was too young to transfer US citizenship at the time and a Kenyan father. The father was a British citizen, so Obama is either a dual-citizen or a British citizen. Neither of which would fulfill the Natural Born Citizen requirement of the United States Constitution.
Educate yourself on the issue before you spout off the well used lies and diversions.
See Attorney Philip J. Berg’s website on the issue:
www.obamacrimes.info
Thanks RR...I wasn't aware there were 3 court challenges on the go.
I'm glad they are still hammering away.
Myself, I would have just shown my papers s long time ago.
One good thing came from this controversy though.
Anybody who doesn't want to participate in the war crimes can just sue Obomba like Sgt. Cook did, and be relieved of "duty".
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on July 19, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
None of that stuff is a "birth cirtificate".
Having some talking head holding up a document dated June 2007, to the effect that Obomba was born in Hawaii, is not a birth cirtificate.
As we all know lawyers and judges are not all totally honest, so any one of the crooks that litter that field could have been used to sign his name on that "document".
So far all I have seen are countless blocks put up in front of any who sought a true certificate of birth.
The smell of BS around this latest war criminal president still lingers.
Regards...
It is a Birth Certificate, stamped with embossed seal from the records department. Combine that with the newspaper item posted by his grandparents making mention of his birth at the time of his birth. It's a 100% non issue outside the rabid machinations of Fox and the bloodthirsty right wing. If you want to pursue actual war criminals, prosecute the Neocons.
The Major's VOLUNTEER mission was canceled by the Army, because they did not want a dangerous fanatic leading a mission. They did not humor his provocations by producing a document which has already been produced and validated, they simply analyzed the unstable state of the major and judged him unfit for duty.
First you entered this thread calling me racist and had your post deleted...next you tried posting bullshit to give the appearance of legitimacy.
Now you have returned trolling again.
Your post will be left as evidence of that.
Again..."some talking head holding up a document dated June 2007" is not a birth certificate.
If you do not have one to exhibit, stop posting in this thread and move on...or be deleted again.
And your logic for the dismissal of Sgt. Cook is as ridiculous as your other attempts to alter reality.
Like I said, this is going to spread until the truth comes out. Now a Retired two-star General and a Lieutenant Colonel have joined the fray. I guess they are cowards and traitors now too.
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/story/778482.html
These guys definitely have an interest in the case. Their lives may depend on it. Although the Obama-lovers would call them crazy, radical, nut-cases. All this ravenous behavior when all their savior has to do is release the long-form copy of his Birth Certificate. Doesn't that seem a bit fishy to you?
Vox Day's column says it all. Now military soldiers have a "get out of war free" card until Obama releases the truth:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104445
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on July 20, 2009, 05:50:04 AM
First you entered this thread calling me racist and had your post deleted...next you tried posting bullshit to give the appearance of legitimacy.
Now you have returned trolling again.
Your post will be left as evidence of that.
Again..."some talking head holding up a document dated June 2007" is not a birth certificate.
If you do not have one to exhibit, stop posting in this thread and move on...or be deleted again.
And your logic for the dismissal of Sgt. Cook is as ridiculous as your other attempts to alter reality.
I see, so the actual birth certificate isn't proof enough for you. Factcheck.org, a neurtral agency, actually got their hands on it/ examined it/ photographed it but according to you it's meaningless.
[Its been made very clear to you that the original long form birth certificate is the only one deemed legal.
You are intentionally spreading disinformation on here...who is paying you ?]
And the obvious reason the major was dismissed isn't proof either.
[And of course you can come up with a reason that makes perfect sense, right ?]
Carry on with your agenda then. Good luck.
[The only agenda on display here is that of the common internet forum troll or a paid disinfo agent.]
Quote from: Asymatrix on July 20, 2009, 10:48:16 AM
I see, so the actual birth certificate isn't proof enough for you. Factcheck.org, a neurtral agency, actually got their hands on it/ examined it/ photographed it but according to you it's meaningless.
[Its been made very clear to you that the original long form birth certificate is the only one deemed legal.
You are intentionally spreading disinformation on here...who is paying you ?]
And the obvious reason the major was dismissed isn't proof either.
[And of course you can come up with a reason that makes perfect sense, right ?]
Carry on with your agenda then. Good luck.
[The only agenda on display here is that of the common internet forum troll or a paid disinfo agent.]
Give me a break with the troll crap. This thread is itself trolling. Obama presented his birth certificate, it's been examined, it's legitimate, there is a newspaper item from the year of his birth announcing his birth in Hawaii, and the Army, realizing this, dismissed an extremist leaning member of it's ranks who tried to feign ignorance in order to further an extremist agenda. Delete my posts all you want, this is supposed to be about 'we can't live without the truth,' not 'we can't live without cap-z-ro opinion.'
[You would like me to delete the evidence of your trolling and disinfo attempts, wouldn't you ?
Trying to falsely label someone a racist makes you worse than just a plain liar...it instead labels you as a worthless piece of human excrement.
And you refusal to acknowledge the "birth certificate" you refer to is as invalid as your life seems to be.
Maybe its time for you to troll elsewhere...you've outed yourself on ou.com, and have become personna non gratta here.
Do yourself and everyone else a favor and find some other forum to exercise your diseased intellect.]
The following was posted by user Asymatrix on another thread...prompting a request to take it elsewhere.
" Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on Today at 12:17:14 PM
Making false assertions against someone while attempting to lower their profile to make your own appear high is readily apparent to most people on a forum of this intellectual level.
Dragging a wagon of porcine excrement around behind you without wheels, with a good wind breeze behind you, makes you look bad a smell even worse.
Regards...
False assertions? In my opinion some of your posts do smack of racism. You are free to accuse Obama of not being a US citizen. I am free to refute your assertion with facts of my own. Since you seem to think your posts are the gospel truth, it doesn't lend itself to any form of debate.. "
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I will attempt to drag the issue back to this thread by addressing his post here.
" False assertions? In my opinion some of your posts do smack of racism. "
[Thats odd, because you seem to be alone on that...as well as your other false assertions.]
"You are free to accuse Obama of not being a US citizen. I am free to refute your assertion with facts of my own. "
[Another false assertion...I never accused him of not being a US citizen...because I do not really know where he was born...because he is covering that info up.
But...I'd say it fairly certain he is a fraud though...or else his birth certificate would have been produced long ago.
I however, accuse Obomba of being a liar and guilty of crimes against humanity...because its an obvious fact.
"Since you seem to think your posts are the gospel truth, it doesn't lend itself to any form of debate.. "
[So I guess his first reply in this thread...'your racist agenda is showing', was his way of opening up the debate.
What...a...troll.
Unlike him, when I engage in any 'debate'...I don't cling to ideology not supported by common sense and factual information...you just end up looking like a fool or worse, a liar.
For instance...no one with the ability to string a sentence together would ever begin to try to convince anyone that a lawyer would file a federal lawsuit against Obomba if birth certificate had already been produced...unless the would be 'convincer' were a disinfo agent, or a troll.
Because anyone that stupid would naturally be illiterate and unable to post.
Now here comes a couple of more misguided souls suing Obomba over the issue...wehere do they find 'em you may ask ?
Well, in the military of course...one happens to be a 2 Star General...the other a Lieutenant Colonel.
I think I'll stick with these guys...at least they can read.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on July 22, 2009, 05:30:39 PM
[You would like me to delete the evidence of your trolling and disinfo attempts, wouldn't you ?
Trying to falsely label someone a racist makes you worse than just a plain liar...it instead labels you as a worthless piece of human excrement.
And you refusal to acknowledge the "birth certificate" you refer to is as invalid as your life seems to be.
Maybe its time for you to troll elsewhere...you've outed yourself on ou.com, and have become personna non gratta here.
Do yourself and everyone else a favor and find some other forum to exercise your diseased intellect.]
Amazing.
[Troll for, the walls are closing in.]
Cap z ro creates a thread which, as it is now clear, was meant to be taken as gospel (they all appear to be).
[*passes collection plate at service*]
I did see your comments as bordering on racist.
[How else can a troll in their deluded state make in on the net, other than making false assertions ?]
'Uncle Tom' is rarely used due to it's strong racial context,
[In the mind of the troll, I guess "rarely used" means something should never be used ??]
in addition to persistent hostility toward Obama ('Obomba.')
[My apologies to all offended, for not addressing a mass murderer with the proper respect.]
I provided real information which conflicted with your foregone conclusion.
[That can only mean we all must accept somebody's 'say so' as real information, to be accepted by all without question as legitimate original documentation.]
It appears you cannot handle it and resort to base emotional outbursts.
[Like making false assertions after previously being exposed as a troll and or distributer of disinformation ?]
The Birth Certificate has been validated by a neutral agency.
[I guess he means the brand of validadtion used to "prove" the existence of WMD's in Iraq as evidence to invade sovereign countries ?]
Factcheck.org is as neutral as it gets.
[Neutral maybe...but showing no true copy of a 'long form' certificate.]
Anyone who questions the Army's motivation in this case, or the notion that Obama is not a US citizen, is violently dismissed as a troll.
[Or was it the racist assertions and insisting people believe bullshit.]
This is what is known as a God Complex.
[That is what is known as Troll Complex.]
Quote from: Asymatrix on July 22, 2009, 05:55:48 PM
Amazing.
[Troll for, the walls are closing in.]
Cap z ro creates a thread which, as it is now clear, was meant to be taken as gospel (they all appear to be).
[*passes collection plate at service*]
I did see your comments as bordering on racist.
[How else can a troll in their deluded state make in on the net, other than making false assertions ?]
'Uncle Tom' is rarely used due to it's strong racial context,
[In the mind of the troll, I guess "rarely used" means something should never be used ??]
in addition to persistent hostility toward Obama ('Obomba.')
[My apologies to all offended, for not addressing a mass murderer with the proper respect.]
I provided real information which conflicted with your foregone conclusion.
[That can only mean we all must accept somebody's 'say so' as real information, to be accepted by all without question as legitimate original documentation.]
It appears you cannot handle it and resort to base emotional outbursts.
[Like making false assertions after previously being exposed as a troll and or distributer of disinformation ?]
The Birth Certificate has been validated by a neutral agency.
[I guess he means the brand of validadtion used to "prove" the existence of WMD's in Iraq as evidence to invade sovereign countries ?]
Factcheck.org is as neutral as it gets.
[Neutral maybe...but showing no true copy of a 'long form' certificate.]
Anyone who questions the Army's motivation in this case, or the notion that Obama is not a US citizen, is violently dismissed as a troll.
[Or was it the racist assertions and insisting people believe bullshit.]
This is what is known as a God Complex.
[That is what is known as Troll Complex.]
Cap, all you do around here is create conspiracy threads and expect to be revered as a truth teller. Dissenting opinions are met with juvenile diatribes and a 'troll' label. It's pretty sad, really. Maybe get a hobby.
Somehow my post to the bullshit recently posted above was lost, and I'm not going to waste any more time on these disinfo artists.
For the rest of the viewers...maybe, just maybe if they dig deep enough they can tie that faux birth certificate to one of the reported 39 social security numbers Obomba has used.
Watch this eye opening video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdBVN7azPs8
Regards...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdBVN7azPs8
The Great and Powerfull Oz Has Spoken! You will be banished Troll!
[Newby enters hollering 'troll'...classic troll behavior.]
Dude you are without a doubt, the most ignorant person I have ever read, posting anything in this forum.
[The put down of a troll does not Merritt a response.]
Sure you have received, (somehow) moderator status here
[To deal with attacks from agents of disinformation and common net trolls who work to derail thread topics.]
and looking at the times of your post, I wonder when you find time to sleep.
[*fears being exposed as cyborg not requiring sleep]
You are able to edit, delete and justify any response to your diatribe for reasons you feel disruptive,
[Hmmm, must be referring to attacks, false accusations, intentional distortion of fact, and general trolling.]
yet you can't seem to control yourself.
[Cyborg circuitry not impervious to root beer spillage.]
Where have you shown One original Idea and or conducted any controlled experiment? Replication anyone?
[*directs trolls attention to recheck Cap-Z-ro threads again for anomalous energy battery charging circuitry...asks troll not to tell other trolls, in order to keep 'ace in hole' status of circuit, for future use on other pesky trolls*]
You are a weed in an otherwise healthy garden.
[High praise from a troll.]
Go away little man.
[Advice better self applied by troll.]
I am quite sure that the good readers here have known me long enough to know that I will respond according to how I am addressed...and welcome respectful exchanges of ideas.
So, thinks you are going to piss on my foot and convince me its raining, don't be surprised if you leave with an umbrella up your wazoo...in the opened position.
My theories and views are subject to change moment to moment according to the facts as they become known.
I am not nor have I ever been afraid to change my opinion...as a matter of fact, I had to do just that today.
Someone with no reason to lie assured me today that my childhood TV mentor Bob Homme, of 'Friendly Giant' fame didn't like children...totally shattering a very comfortable childhood image that I had of a male...who I otherwise generally distrust for the usual reasons.
Usually the only males that I feel comfortable around are direct, no BS, and consistently rational.
The reason Hans and I get on so well is because I know just where he stands, and have never seen him speak out his wazoo on any subject...if he expresses an opinion, I can always be sure that it comes from a perspective of stated knowledge or experience.
I genuinely like and feel a kinship with those type of people...they are the only males I will trust.
Hans doesn't suffer trolls lightly as me though...he has more of a blunt trauma edge to his turn of phrase than I do...which doesn't seem to attract trolls for some reason.
Anyway, I have had Bush down as a mass murderer for as long as I have been here...and now I am adding Obomba to the war crimes docket.
With honorable mention to a string of boobs and idiot canadian prime ministers, topped by Stevious Harper who soldiers on despite the souvenir of left over nano-thermite paperweight on his office desk.
End of diatribe...*wipes drool like Satchmo*
Regards...
All because Dobbs won't drink the Obomba birth certificate flavored kool aid.
Lou apparently gags on bullshit, and is unable to cram it in his pie hole like the rest over at CNN and the rest of the boob toob boobs peddling war porn.
The sold out or burnt out Jon Stewart of the "Daily Shmow" had a turn talking Lou down too...what a sophmoric schmuck he came off as.
Anyway, read the linked article below, where this "civil rights" group wants his firing...amid their accusations of racism.
Hmmm, using false assertions to make Lou look like a bad guy...where have I seen that tactic used before ?
The thing is, at this point there has just been too much denial of access to the information sought = red flags up everywhere on this.
More here...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/24/major-civil-rights-group_n_244532.html
Regards...
These childish megalomaniacal threads have no place on an OU messageboard. Get therapy.
Troll in quotations:
" These childish megalomaniacal threads have no place on an OU messageboard. "
[I think he means - 'childish megalomaniacal posts'...only the thought cannot penetrate the thick gooey sludge that is his conscious state of awareness.]
" Get therapy. "
[I think he means this thread shows his dysfunctional demeanor, and he wishes it would go away.]
At the end of the day Obomba lies with the smirk of a sneaky jackal on all of his faces.
Regards...
Well, it turns out there is a rather detailed analysis of some allegedly forged Obomba birth related documents.
Report here...
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on July 24, 2009, 08:22:26 PM
Troll in quotations:
" These childish megalomaniacal threads have no place on an OU messageboard. "
[I think he means - 'childish megalomaniacal posts'...only the thought cannot penetrate the thick gooey sludge that is his conscious state of awareness.]
" Get therapy. "
[I think he means this thread shows his dysfunctional demeanor, and he wishes it would go away.]
At the end of the day Obomba lies with the smirk of a sneaky jackal on all of his faces.
Regards...
Thank you for confirming my assertion that you are a childish megalomaniac.
I did indeed mean 'thread,' which is what you are creating, not individual posts. Seems like it overloaded your 50 IQ
The irony is, your extreme narcissism and juvenile behavior makes you no different than the subjects of these conspiracy threads.
Cheers Asymatrix
Hey Stephan! Your tolerance of this little puke is quite telling.
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[Majority of troll drool removed...only insult to Stefan left
for him to deal with if he sees fit.]
Regards...
Troll translation...troll in quotation marks:
" Thank you for confirming my assertion that you are a childish megalomaniac. "
[Troll dreaming.]
"I did indeed mean 'thread,' which is what you are creating, not individual posts. "
[Troll analyzes dream.]
" Seems like it overloaded your 50 IQ "
[Troll acting cerebral with IQ of 65.]
" The irony is, your extreme narcissism and juvenile behavior makes you no different than the subjects of these conspiracy threads. "
[Troll leaves out previously used racist assertions.]
Regards...
Much to my chagrin, here is Obomba's actual hand written birth certificate.
This doesn't mean he doesn't a liar and a war criminal though.
View here...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p139/praiseyahwehforever/bfh_obama_certificate_of_bi.jpg?t=1248528815
Regards...
Here is a quote from newbie123...which was deleted in error while purging troll attack posts:
" Cap-z-ro, you keep calling your skeptics trolls... Which is another irony, cuz 3:1 makes you the troll. "
[Obviously by your comment you have made what you would call an astute observation.
Then I guess you noticed that the first comment from one of the posters designated as a troll, was to call me a racist.
That, according to you apparently is your description of a skeptic ?
Although the readers figured it out, you wouldn't - else you would never have posted it...by calling me the troll instead, you have actually exposed yourself as the troll that I said you were when you first dirtied up this forum with your tripe.
And this will also be my last reference to you directly.
You will just be deleted or identified as a troll according to the circumstance.]
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on July 25, 2009, 05:40:55 PM
Here is a quote from newbie123...which was deleted in error while purging troll attack posts:
" Cap-z-ro, you keep calling your skeptics trolls... Which is another irony, cuz 3:1 makes you the troll. "
[Obviously by your comment you have made what you would call an astute observation.
Then I guess you noticed that the first comment from one of the posters designated as a troll, was to call me a racist.
That, according to you apparently is your description of a skeptic ?
Although the readers figured it out, you wouldn't - else you would never have posted it...by calling me the troll instead, you have actually exposed yourself as the troll that I said you were when you first dirtied up this forum with your tripe.
And this will also be my last reference to you directly.
You will just be deleted or identified as a troll according to the circumstance.]
I didn't read all the other posts in this thread..
But lets do the "math" here really quick...
What do trolls do?
They post (usually bias) things to get a rise out of people (without regarding facts), and are normally outnumbered by folks with a different mindset. Right?
What are you doing here?
In comparison to the number of respectable members here who have shown their support for my efforts here, the comments above are a wasted effort.
When those I respect offer advice I always listen.
When people disrespect everyone including themselves offer their negative advice, I ignore them or delete them.
Regards...
And not so oddly enough...
"Racist Web Posts Traced to Homeland Security"
" The Wayne County Star in western New York has found that offensive remarks on its Web site came from Internet protocol addresses at the agency. "
Source here...
http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/nyregion/25immig.html&OQ=_rQ3D4&OP=fa4aeb8Q2FQ3DHQ2AQ27Q3DglzQ23fllBtQ3Dt88Q51Q3D8MQ3DtoQ3DQ60ufQ2AbYlQ60Q3DtoYppYbQ3BQ20Bp!
Regards...
Are 400 thousand concerned citizens to be labeled racist also ?
Source here...
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100613
Regards...
He may not have started the "war"...but Obomba is certainly escalating it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cckAY1gHeR4&feature=player_embedded
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on July 27, 2009, 04:45:11 PM
Are 400 thousand concerned citizens to be labeled racist also ?
Source here...
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100613
Regards...
Only if they make comments which seem to border on racism, as you do.
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Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on July 27, 2009, 10:45:11 PM
Are 400 thousand concerned citizens to be labeled racist also ?
Source here...
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100613
Regards...
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Only if they make comments which seem to border on racism, as you do.
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Since I didn't delete any of my own words, it shouldn't be too difficult for you to provide evidence of racist statements made by me.
I think everybody is as sick as I am of your baseless accusations.
So now it's time to back up these slanderous accusations.
This latest slur will be copied and sent off to Stefan...where I will be asking him to demand that you provide evidence to back up your false accusations.
Failing that, on those grounds I will be seeking your removal from this site for cause.
Help Stefan! Help me , the trolls are after my precious(gollum).
Pathetic
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