Very simple way of getting free energy....
http://www.youtube.com/user/OverUnityNow1#play/all/uploads-all/1/QdjIifilrkk
Tom...
Thanks for the vid Tom,
What Frequency is the AC?
Perhaps a resonant circuit tuned to that frequency would have been something Tesla tried.
The Observer
Hi Tom.
Why not build a Net like Antenna to cover more EM Volume.
The Net Antenna is one continuous strand of 'insulated motor wire' covering a volume of EM in the Air. (small Gauged). you could also place the net in a sandwich of plexiglas to keep lightning from seeking it to well. could you test a 4'x8' wire net grid to see about its efficiency increase by net hole sizes and volume of the net itself.
you could use small hooks between two wood/PVC poles in the ground and simply weave the net between the hooks.
you could make arrays of these EM net antennas in parallel or series for whatever you desired as far as current.
Just some thoughts. Keep up the nice videos.
Thanks
Jerry ;)
That's a great idea, but did'nt Tesla talk about a greater area plate?
The more area of the collector the graeter energy, or did i read his data wrong?
Tom....
You are right.
The energy that is to be captured in the collector is an ionizing energy --- not ordinary radio wave.
Quote from: Tommey Reed on August 06, 2009, 05:34:03 AM
That's a great idea, but did'nt Tesla talk about a greater area plate?
The more area of the collector the graeter energy, or did i read his data wrong?
Tom....
This is another experiment using the same plate at 30ft height, If I change the size of plates, greater voltage will increase.
Also I found, if the collector wire is away from ground it will also increase voltage too.
I'm at sea level, so anyone at 1000ft above sea level could get hundred's if not in the thousands of volts.
This is the second video, 30ft antenna, with the same plate collector.
http://www.youtube.com/user/OverUnityNow1#play/all/uploads-all/0/_O3xsuj94Lw
Tom...
This video shows that ac is converted to dc to charge a 5000mf, 200v capacitor.
I found that this would charge over night to 30v dc or ((.5x.05)x30^2)=22.5 joules of energy.
http://www.youtube.com/user/OverUnityNow1#play/all/uploads-all/0/4fSo5JgsacY
Tom..
test,just wanted a link back to this thread.triffid
onthecuttingedge2005 said:
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Why not build a Net like Antenna to cover more EM Volume. ...
My thread covering U.S. Patents in the
Extracting Electricity From the Atmosphere forum has many kinds of transmitting/receiving aerials to do just that.
You might have a look. More patents are coming in the future. Many available to give the Members and interested public ideas.
Thusly:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7832.0
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Hi Tom. ...
... Just some thoughts. Keep up the nice videos. ...
Hey tom,
Jerry's right.
That's really good work.
--Lee
Ok,It seems like Tommey Reed explained how to get Tesla Energy from the simplest arrangement of material that I have ever seen and am both pleased(that Tommey shared his information) and am upset and shocked that this information was suppressed for so long.Afterall they tried to exclude Tesla from the history books.Now we understand why.What I wonder now since Tesla powered an electric car from this same energy source.Just how close some one here is to reproducing those results?Triffid
So this free energy exists on mars too?Maybe even the moon?The moon has an atmosphere too(about 1/1000 that of the earth's).Venus would have it too.So we would not be without power anywhere we went in the solar system?Triffid
Quote from: triffid on August 07, 2009, 06:30:43 AM
So this free energy exists on mars too?Maybe even the moon?The moon has an atmosphere too(about 1/1000 that of the earth's).Venus would have it too.So we would not be without power anywhere we went in the solar system?Triffid
Galactic magnetic fields, cosmic rays from everywhere else, and the magnet fields of planets and natural satellites should cause an electrical reaction on a copper wire situated the same way on the planet/moon as on Earth(parallel to the ground at altitude).
Maybe less power per foot of length, though.
--Lee
It looks like to me that a insulated copper wire attached to a plate with rounded edges would work too.That way you could put together a wooden tower.Attach the plate to the top of your wooden tower while its still on the ground and tape the connecting (pos) wire to go straight down the tower.This way you could put together a small wooden tower by yourself.Say maybe 25-30 feet high.I think the wire being insulated from the air is more important than the guage since the positive charges tend to bleed out onto the air.The plate on top is the only bare metal that I have seen.In fact I'm suggesting to a friend of mine that we do this same thing.Put about three 8 foot boards together on the ground ,put a plate on the top,attach an insulated wire to it.When finished ,put it up in the air and measure the voltage.Triffid
triffid said:
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It looks like to me that a insulated copper wire attached to a plate with rounded edges would work too.
@triffid
T. Galen Hieronymus and Tesla both had the same idea. It should work, too.
I don't have my notes with me at this computer, but hartiberlin started a thread involving 2 ea. suspended aerial metallic mesh antennas feeding 12 V to 2 ea. fluorescent ballasts; from there to spark gaps and then to a battery. I'll try and look for the notes later, but it's something like what you suggest.
I just have a concern about his(hartiberlin's) subjecting any battery terminal to a spark gap without a diode to rectify the AC generated.
--Lee
If any of you have a nearby cliff of substantial height, you might want to go there with a couple hundred meters of wire? The plate would simply stand on the edge, or be hung from a horizontal pole over the edge. The ground wire, just hangs down the cliff. The other wire, as Tommey described, first goes horizontal, conveniently along the edge of the cliff, and only when out of range down to where the measuring equipment stands.
I could have said tall trees in stead of cliff, but for some reqason, grown men (inventors even) climbing tall trees, seems like trouble.
As the experiment is so simple, any wooden watchtower should be quite convenient. Pick a clear day.
As I posted as a comment on Tommey'd video, I am afriad just going up a mountain with the same plate, and same wiring, will not bring the mega watts he expect. The way nature works, I bet it's all about vertical difference, not height above sea level. You can tell by the way it ramps up, the reference it the relative height itself, not that over a fixed level. This one one I'd love to be wrong about.
Another idea : deep holes in the ground. Like gold mines, oil drilling, etc. Would be interested to see whether running the ground and other wire down there would offer similar results to the plate being elevated.
It is probably just induction collector from electricity compagny.
I try this 2 month ago
I had the same result of you.
Around 20 volts
But when there was a power outage i received nothing
Will try far in the forest or in a field
the_big_m_in_ok said:
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I don't have my notes with me at this computer, but hartiberlin started a thread involving 2 ea. suspended aerial metallic mesh antennas feeding 12 V to 2 ea. fluorescent ballasts; from there to spark gaps and then to a battery. I'll try and look for the notes later, but it's something like what you suggest. I just have a concern about his(hartiberlin's) subjecting any battery terminal to a spark gap without a diode to rectify the AC generated.
I have the thread address now:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2712.0 , the initial post of the thread + the .jpg drawing
Diodes might be a better idea on the battery terminals.
--Lee
The problem with using a mountain is induction between the positive charge collector wire and the negative ground(Earth).As Tommey showed in his clip.The closer the two are the lower the voltage.So if the collector wire touches the ground at all then I think voltage would be lost.Remember the collector wire is insulated but induction would reach across that insulation to reduce the voltage.If the wire could be kept away from the earth by a distance of 30 feet all the way down the mountain,you might have something.Just thinking out loud here.triffid
Quote from: Tommey Reed on August 06, 2009, 05:34:03 AM
That's a great idea, but did'nt Tesla talk about a greater area plate?
The more area of the collector the graeter energy, or did i read his data wrong?
Tom....
Yes telsa said the greater the area plate the more voltage you will get.
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 06, 2009, 02:16:33 AM
Hi Tom.
Why not build a Net like Antenna to cover more EM Volume.
The Net Antenna is one continuous strand of 'insulated motor wire' covering a volume of EM in the Air. (small Gauged). you could also place the net in a sandwich of plexiglas to keep lightning from seeking it to well. could you test a 4'x8' wire net grid to see about its efficiency increase by net hole sizes and volume of the net itself.
you could use small hooks between two wood/PVC poles in the ground and simply weave the net between the hooks.
you could make arrays of these EM net antennas in parallel or series for whatever you desired as far as current.
Just some thoughts. Keep up the nice videos.
Thanks
Jerry ;)
I am going to make that...seems simple enough to build...going to have to buy insulted wire.
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 06, 2009, 02:16:33 AM
Hi Tom.
Why not build a Net like Antenna to cover more EM Volume. ...
...you could make arrays of these EM net antennas in parallel or series for whatever you desired as far as current. ...
Thanks
Jerry ;)
Jerry's correct. I started a thread in this same
Extracting... Forum on patents to do any of that. Just modify them to receive for the most part. Enough wire with most of them should do the trick.
I would build one myself and tell you of my test results, but I don't have the money or freedom. Without my current living conditions by being assisted by a Veteran's outreach organization, I would be starving on the streets.
However, supportive investigative research is something I can do. This is a worthwhile site to follow an gain from. Keep trying and good work so far.
--Lee
I had another idea,use bamboo to support a plate and an insulated wire of small guage.One man could duct tape together a bamboo tower of 100 feet on the ground and put it up into the air by himself.It might be light weight enough.Here in texas lots of bamboo grows wild.No one really seems to care if you cut yourself some.Only need 10 ,10 foot lengths.Triffid
Might need 2 or 3 more 10 foot pieces for splicing.Triffid
to Big M,I know what you mean about being poor.I grew up poor but I was surrounded by people who could do other things.My dad could fix radios and tv's.I had uncles who could hunt,fish,and garden.My dad built the house I grew up in.I have built two sheds myself.I have lots of ideas about how to use junk and make it work.You are welcome to PM me about any project you might have.triffid
Quote from: lltfdaniel1 on August 10, 2009, 10:58:16 PM
I am going to make that...seems simple enough to build...going to have to buy insulted wire.
Hi Daniel.
you might want to check for polarity of the wire as well because the correct polarity or wire angle could increase your current by increasing the inductance of the EM polarity to wire polarity. horizontal and or vertical wire arrangement.
good luck on your new quest.
Jerry ;)
author=triffid
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to Big M,...You are welcome to PM me about any project you might have.triffid
Thanks, triffid. I think up a lot of ideas, but not all get described here at Overunity. The simple things I know will work are what I expound upon.
Hence my thread on patents in the
Extracting Energy... forum. I did have a recently published book on WWII-style UFO's and thought something might be posted in
The Perfect Spacecraft thread, but composing my description may take careful wording to clearly get my point across.
--Lee
Here is another guy who did this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfN0HcKMNPc
lltfdaniel1 said:
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Here is another guy who did this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfN0HcKMNPc
Hey Daniel,
Okay, I saw the experimenter in the video was getting up to 300V. This is fine, but it looks like to me, the experiences of others requires an 'acid test' by taking the same wire and going as far from 50-60 HZ municipal wiring as possible.
Since I live in San Francisco(read: major city that's heavily developed), this would be very difficult for me to run real-time tests, including Golden Gate Park, which itself is surrounded by houses. Only Marin Co. to the north has potential, having enough space and being far enough away from building and power lines. And, I think unless I can get some privacy in this town, it'll even more difficult.
I relate this to any adventurous experimenter with a lot of extra insulated wire on a spool that can be rewound again after voltage measurements are taken.
It's a suggestion to find a definite answer to the efficiency question.
--Lee
To all,The video clip just mentioned is interesting but he did not get 300 volts.He got 3 volts in about 5 minutes.So that would be 300 millivolts.Still the fact that he gets about 1.5 volts to each panel leads me to wonder what if he had a thousand panels would he get 1500 volts?If the house didn't fall down first?He did mention in another video that he was in touch with someone who said he was getting 150 volts out of an aluminum awning 8 feet off the ground measuring 20 feet times something.It seems that 6 to 8 feet off the ground is the desired distance for resonance.The more surface area the greater the voltage.Some time back I ran across a patent here (overunity.com) where the electrode size(surface area) was increased several thousand times.I wonder if something similar could be done for the plates in the above mentioned video clip?Triffid
If it could we might be driving electric cars that recharge themselves for free 24/7 anywhere in the world.Triffid
I guess we would still need batteries untill someone figured out a way to do without them.Triffid
Of course,I'm dreaming.Triffid
I would just produce hydrogen with it..for cars.
Right time for me to order stuff.
Aluminium plate http://www.aluminiumwarehouse.co.uk/p18500/Aluminium_Sheet_(1050AH14)_1000_mm_x_1000_mm/product_info.html
Going to connect an insulated wire to it...hopefully my multimeter will arrive by then...
Copper sheet is too expensive :D...going to have to get some pvc pipe or something...have to take a trip to the mountain heh..
Quote from: triffid on August 16, 2009, 11:11:15 AM
If it could we might be driving electric cars that recharge themselves for free 24/7 anywhere in the world.Triffid
if you really wanted to clean this up you could do research into High Tc Superconductors, This would eliminate the need for Batteries and the proper Superconductive winding can store more charge than a battery ever thought of carrying and weigh far less than an array of batteries.
charging the H-Tc SC is a separate issue and belongs in a different department for development.
Jerry ;)
The way the patent said the electrode surface area could be increased several thousand times was to dissolve the metal(electrode) into solution(mostly acid) and so the metal was atomized or free to react as atoms with other metal atoms.It does appear that the mass of the metal plate does determine how much energy you can pull down through a simple antenna system.But if you are able to dissolve the plate so its in atoms.The surface area may be greatly increased and you may be able to pull down a lot more energy.Just thinking out loud here.Triffid
So how did Tesler keep energy from excaping from his cumpaciter?
If you mean his plates he did recommend mica to insulate with. Some experimenters today use laminated plastic sheets.Triffid
Some guy somewhere on the internet claimed to get 150 volts from an aluminum awning (22 feet by 8 feet )located just 8 feet off the ground.Think of all the aluminum cans that could be flattened and nailed together then insulated to make a plate.Triffid
Quote from: triffid on August 28, 2009, 05:37:01 AM
Some guy somewhere on the internet claimed to get 150 volts from an aluminum awning (22 feet by 8 feet )located just 8 feet off the ground.Think of all the aluminum cans that could be flattened and nailed together then insulated to make a plate.Triffid
That seems to be an awful lot of work using nails. Super Glue might be stronger and easier? Or why not use aluminum foil?
--Lee
I would try using heavy aluminum foil.Everyone can find cans.Nails might cause a battery effect anyway since the two metals would be dissimilar enough.I once read in a hippie magazine somewhere that aluminum cans could be flattened out to make shingles for a roof.The key might be to make it waterproof too.Triffid
There is some indication that the mass of the plate matters i.e. ,the more mass the more charge.Triffid
triffid said:
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There is some indication that the mass of the plate matters i.e. ,the more mass the more charge.Triffid
That
may be so, Triffid. Creative Science, http://www.fuelesspower.com maintains a similar assertion in their battery technology. However, the concept is one I'm unfamiliar with. Greater area may be as good as greater thickness? Both at once produces even more power?
--Lee
I don't know about the battery by fuelessspower.com.But I believe I understand the plate enough to say that power increases when the surface area increases and the power of the plate increases as the total mass of the plate increases.I think the power is really limited by the total amount of mass.When the surface area increases the power goes up to a point and stops.But if you can keep adding mass then you can really crank up the power.The two seem to go hand in hand.Both at once does seem to increase the power.Triffid
triffid said:
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When the surface area increases the power goes up to a point and stops.
That's a new one on me. I thought more area meant more power.
As an example, the red supergiant star Mira Ceti: The average density of the whole mass is way low, but because of its immense diameter, the surface area radiating in the red and infrared wavelengths makes the star exceedingly bright.
Would not the same concept apply to plate conductors as well?
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But if you can keep adding mass then you can really crank up the power.
Sure. A heavy gauge wire can handle considerably more current than 45 Ga. magnet wire. I do agree with you there.
--Lee
I think that increasing surface area is not the same as increasing mass.I believe that surface area can be increased many times(example a human lung small as it is has the surface area of a football field).So one lb of metal dissolved in solution would have a maximum value of (X).You add another lb of that metal.And you doubled the surface area (2X).X is the max value of the surface area of one lb of metal in solution.Its how I see it in my head.Triffid
I can only work with a limited amount of metal in my attic.Too much metal would bring down the house.So I try to increase the surface area of the metal plate instead.Its appears to be a trade off to me.Triffid
triffid said:
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I think that increasing surface area is not the same as increasing mass.I believe that surface area can be increased many times(example a human lung small as it is has the surface area of a football field).
Hi triffid,
I think I see now. In rocket fuel engineering, manufacturers use finely ground up solid fuels and oxidizers. The smaller the particle size, the greater the surface area presented to the flame front of the fuel grain burning from inside out to the case---and the faster the fuel burns.
You might have a point on that.
--Lee
To big M,You gave me an idea.Maybe the plate could be a bucket of nails (all in contact with each other) or a tray of metal powder (all electrically connected)?You may not need an acid solution or a base solution up in your attic.Maybe just small pieces of metal in electrical contact with each other.A bucket of nails would have more surface area than a flat metal sheet of the same mass.Likewise a box or tray of small metal parts all touching each other(electrically)?Just thinking out loud here.This way you would not need acids or bases(liquids) anywhere around you?Triffid
triffid said:
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To big M,You gave me an idea.Maybe the plate could be a bucket of nails (all in contact with each other) or a tray of metal powder (all electrically connected)?You may not need an acid solution or a base solution up in your attic.
@triffid
I think I see you point, but my Dad told me when I was a teenager that electrical resistance always increased with the length of wire.
Now, the same may be true with a bucket of nails? But the concept of volume being an augmenter for electrical power may be something to think about more.
Have to go, can write later,
--Lee
Maybe a plastic tub with a plastic lid would insulate the metal parts inside?Triffid
Maybe different metals would collect the ionizing charge differently?Some better than others?I'm not really set up to experiment a lot.I haven't really seen anyone too concerned about resistance in these simple antenna setups yet so I hadn't really thought about it at all.Maybe a mistake?Silver wire would have less resistance than copper wire.Maybe a plate ( consisting of silver coins in the plastic tub with a with a plastic lid covering it) would collect the energy better than a bucket of brand new clean nails?Triffid
Just kicking out some ideas here.Triffid
Quote from: triffid on September 01, 2009, 12:35:25 PM
Maybe a plastic tub with a plastic lid would insulate the metal parts inside?Triffid
Electrically, yes. The idea is not to make a Faraday cage, which plastic won't do.
But I entertain the concept that if a greater volume of material, regardless of shape, might cause greater power generation by allowing more interaction with radio wave fronts impacting it.
That thought crossed my mind in conjunction with yours, or someone's, comment concerning, "More volume means more power."
--Lee
I see "more volume" as connected to "more mass".So I can see how more mass(i.e.more volume) could increase the power.Surface area is not the same unit as volume just as it is not the same unit as mass.So far The units I use to think of these plates in are just "surface area" and "mass ".
triffid
Yes, a greater volume of material would increase the power.Since it means a greater quanity of material would be added to what you already had.Triffid
Quote from: triffid on September 01, 2009, 01:12:52 PM
I see "more volume" as connected to "more mass". ... Yes, a greater volume of material would increase the power.Since it means a greater quanity of material would be added to what you already had.Triffid
I have many patents(mostly older, from the Teens and Roaring Twenties) on my thread...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7832.0 ,
...in no order, but inventors thought suspending a wire or grid arrangement from a balloon was popular way back then for generating power. It would work then, as now. "The bigger the better," as they say. Up to the lifting limit of the balloon(s).
It's just that there was little or no 60 Hz house/industry wiring to add to the power generation by resonance effects. A very long wire or cable was required at that time.
--Lee
EDIT WRONG POST!
So to recap,"Volume" is an older term for "mass". Big M is saying volume is the term used by a lot of inventors from the 19 tens through 20's for their antenna systems.Like a lot of todays chemicals were called different names 100 years ago.No wonder I couldn't wrap my head around "volume" at first.It's an expression used before my time.triffid
I have recently read that a wire held 600 meters up in the air will generate 20,000 volts(balloon ,I guess).Popular science magazine,1973.Very little amps.triffid
A wire held 200 meters up will generate 2000 volts.Same source.triffid
Quote from: triffid on September 06, 2009, 03:18:32 PM
I have recently read that a wire held 600 meters up in the air will generate 20,000 volts(balloon ,I guess).Popular science magazine,1973.Very little amps.triffid
Good, I agree with you for the most part.
However, when the inventors of the '20s and '30s worked, there was a lot less 60 cycle power available to tap into by resonance.
Plauson , in his patent, implied he needed several km of cable, suspended from balloons, to power a 500 HP motor. I agree. He stepped down, by transformer, the HV to something his motor could tolerate, though.
But my question to you, triffid, is how long is the wire you're using? I remember, on the Internet, and this site, a 250-300 foot antenna wire would generate up to 3,000 VAC to be stepped down with a car ignition coil and a spark plug.
--Lee
Somewhere here on overunity I posted a link to a capacitance charger made with 200 feet of insulated wire about 5 feet off the ground .As the wind blows over the wire ,the wire acts as a capacitor,picks up a charge from the wind supposedly in the 3000 volt range.Gets downgraded into a 12 volt battery charger.Supposely charges up a 12 volt battery in 2 or 3 days.No I have not built one.It works best in cold weather.Most of the time I don't build anything.I hear about something somewhere and pass on the information here.I have done experiments in the past.I have no plans right now on putting up a wire.I might put up one in 2 or 3 months about 20 feet high on a friends property.I will try to find that link and post it here.Triffid
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/capacitorcharger.htm
look here for something interesting.Triffid
Quote from: triffid on September 06, 2009, 11:12:34 PM
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/capacitorcharger.htm
look here for something interesting.Triffid
@triffid
Yes, exactly. 300-350 feet of co-ax cable should do the trick. Twice the wire would take less time, but it was pointed out elsewhere, I think, that risky voltages levels would be present. Even more lengthy wire runs were potentially dangerous to deadly if you touched the ungrounded end.
--Lee
I have all the parts to put it together but never did.My property was too short for a 200 foot length of wire,even zig-zag.I also wonder about a battery charge controller for it.It needs something to switch over to the next battery that needs recharging.triffid
Quote from: triffid on September 06, 2009, 11:12:34 PM
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/capacitorcharger.htm
look here for something interesting.Triffid
50-60 hz power contributes a lot to the output of these systems.
Another Overunity Member indicated in a post that putting up many antennae systems would require power companies to increase the output of their plants.
He's right. Resonance induction is what these aerials do and they'll load a municipal power main circuit down. That's why tapping power from a power company's cable is illegal. It loads to system unnecessarily and is stealing as well.
Now, take a look at this:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=Ko55AAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=antenna+coil&num=100&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=antenna%20coil&f=false
Back in the '20s, more wire was needed than now, since municipal power wasn't widely available like it is now. I have a place in mind to do what the invention implies, but not the freedom to do it, unfortunately.
--Lee
Can the 3000 volts really be gotten from magnentic induction on a 200 foot wire from the power company if you don't have high tension wires over head?I know friction can generate high voltage static electricity.I was quite happy thinking that the wire picks up a charge from the wind.I do like the coil antenna patent .I could for sure put 200 feet of wire in that configuration.I could wear it on my body almost.One of my friends said he would make one which he never did.A sign of the times I guess.triffid
I guess one could hook up a scope to the wire to see if its 50-60 hz.triffid
I do agree that one has to be careful not to tap into the power company illegally.Which is one reason I'm so big on solar power or making huge batteries(earth batteries,mostly).I am now considering peltier modules to convert some heat energy into electrical energy.To use them in place of solar panels.They are said to be 5-8% efficient but a lot cheaper than solar panels.12.99+shipping on ebay for 158 watt unit.Triffid
triffid
has anyone thought of useing thermocouples on the heat sink for there inverter heat sinks as this would recover waist heat and could be used for charging the batteries just a thought as it would still provide cooling in the passing.
Martin
nueview said:
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triffid
has anyone thought of useing thermocouples on the heat sink for there inverter heat sinks as this would recover waist heat and could be used for charging the batteries just a thought as it would still provide cooling in the passing.
Martin
@nueview(Martin)
Peltier module and thermocouples are, say, 3-7% efficient, in terms of power consumption compared to heating or cooling rates achieved.
The Rankine or Carnot refrigerator is 40-60% efficient.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cycle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankine_cycle
Thermocouples and Peltier devices would be unnecessarily large and power inefficient.
--Lee
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/ambientpower.htm is another interesting way to get power from an antenna.triffid
Quote from: triffid on September 08, 2009, 11:22:17 PM
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/ambientpower.htm is another interesting way to get power from an antenna.triffid
@triffid
You're right. Tate had a patent issued for his invention: #4,628,299. GOOGLizing "ambient power module" and "tate" or "patent 4628299" should get you more information.
--Lee
Hi
I got sometimes up to 200 volts and some milliamps , how do we get something to run with this?say a small dc motor?
Regards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd2mSkQ_uog&feature=quicklist
Quote from: kukulcangod on October 08, 2009, 11:48:33 PM
Hi
I got sometimes up to 200 volts and some milliamps , how do we get something to run with this?say a small dc motor?
Regards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd2mSkQ_uog&feature=quicklist
A longer wire should do the trick. The increased voltage should need to be stepped down with a transformer. Even 200 volts is too much for the average motor. If you live in a rural area, you need a lot longer wire.
--Lee
Quote from: triffid on September 06, 2009, 03:23:36 PM
A wire held 200 meters up will generate 2000 volts.Same source.triffid
@triffid
I agree, that's possible. But how long is the wire and how close is it to the municipal power lines?
Several patents, even from the 'Teens and 'Twenties, used resonant coils to augment power being generated by the lengthy wire run.
This, I think, would alter the picture some if additional power was being produced by CEMF/BEMF as well as from natural radiant signals impacting the wire.
--Lee
I had a thought! Or maybe it was just a BRAIN FART.
I have a 10 foot fiberglass satellite dish. Has anyone used one to extract energy from the aether?
It picks up signals from a satellite. Would it be able to pick up energy;say from power lines or other WASTED energy that is out there.
I would sure appreciate it if anyone has any ideas on this.
Thank for any ideas anyone has.
Dick.
Quote from: topothemtn on February 20, 2010, 08:34:29 PM
I had a thought! Or maybe it was just a BRAIN FART.
I have a 10 foot fiberglass satellite dish. Has anyone used one to extract A from the aether?
It picks up signals from a satellite. Would it be able to pick up energy;say from power lines or other WASTED energy that is out there.
I believe, from what I heard or read awhile ago, new receiving dishes are hardwired
(?) or otherwise prevented from taking in any signal except the one the subscriber pays for. Reverse engineering may or may not be an option.
All that's left---I believe---is laboriously coating the inside of the dish with something like aluminum foil and then installing a specially designed collector of some kind at the focal point of the dish as a power tap. I think. I'm just putting an idea out there.
More trouble than it's worth, I suppose. It might depend on how creative, persistant and wealthy you are to get what you want.
--Lee
Thanks for the input,Lee
You are right about it being hardwired for sat signals. I'll have to look into what it would take to maybe change the LBN to catch some other kind of signal.
Anyway it might be worth a try. It is just sitting there. And no one will take it. The only other use for it would be a BIG sled for playing in the snow!!!
Dick
Quote from: Tommey Reed on August 05, 2009, 08:43:09 AM
Very simple way of getting free energy....
http://www.youtube.com/user/OverUnityNow1#play/all/uploads-all/1/QdjIifilrkk
http://www.youtube.com/user/OverUnityNow1#play/all/uploads-all/0/4fSo5JgsacY
I get an error messages now that say:
"This account has been closed."
--Lee
Coat that bad boy dish with mirrored vinyl and have a pig roast or make giant solar water heater.lol
the_big_m_in_ok said:
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http://www.youtube.com/user/OverUnityNow1#play/all/uploads-all/1/QdjIifilrkk
http://www.youtube.com/user/OverUnityNow1#play/all/uploads-all/0/4fSo5JgsacY
I get an error messages now that say:
"This account has been closed."
This one is still up and running on the 'Web:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd2mSkQ_uog&feature=quicklist
--Lee
When Tesla invented the coherer which was able to capture signal he stated that it was necessary because of the myriad of electromagnetic waves present at any given point. This was back when there wasn't many manmade scources of emf. So a simple dipole antennae is exposed and intercepting a myriad of signals. As soon as an electron is accelerated it becomes a transmitter. The frequency of the signal is dependent on the velocity of the electron. The charged mass moving gives off photons. As ultraviolet light from the sun ionizes water vapor in the upper atmosphere free electrons are emitted. The electrons emitted are of high enough energy state to completely detach from the parent atom and migrate along the magnetic field lines of the Earth. This is a current of billions of amperes. The average speed of the electron current produces a 5khz cyclotron frequency. This is because electrons loop around magnetic field lines and the velocity of the electrons doing the loop produce 5khz photon packets. Maybe we should be listening to this station. Not for any information but just the carrier should be of interest.
Quote from: sparks on March 16, 2010, 07:08:21 AM
....This is a current of billions of amperes. The average speed of the electron current produces a 5khz cyclotron frequency. This is because electrons loop around magnetic field lines and the velocity of the electrons doing the loop produce 5khz photon packets.
And that is the key to a working TPU unit...
Quote from: CompuTutor on March 16, 2010, 05:46:22 PM
And that is the key to a working TPU unit...
Sounds reasonable. So you think that 5 Khz is related to the 5 KHz mentioned for the TPU? It sounds like that could be an explanation of the source of the TPU's high power.
Quote from: sparks on March 16, 2010, 07:08:21 AM
When Tesla invented the coherer which was able to capture signal he stated that it was necessary because of the myriad of electromagnetic waves present at any given point. This was back when there wasn't many manmade scources of emf. So a simple dipole antennae is exposed and intercepting a myriad of signals. As soon as an electron is accelerated it becomes a transmitter. The frequency of the signal is dependent on the velocity of the electron. The charged mass moving gives off photons. As ultraviolet light from the sun ionizes water vapor in the upper atmosphere free electrons are emitted. The electrons emitted are of high enough energy state to completely detach from the parent atom and migrate along the magnetic field lines of the Earth. This is a current of billions of amperes. The average speed of the electron current produces a 5khz cyclotron frequency. This is because electrons loop around magnetic field lines and the velocity of the electrons doing the loop produce 5khz photon packets. Maybe we should be listening to this station. Not for any information but just the carrier should be of interest.
Sparks:
This freq. correlates with what we have seen with the earth energy receiver devices (Earth batteries) we have been researching. Also, the Russians have said that the "energy" of the earth is about 5 hz.
Bill
Bill this frequency is 5000 hertz. Below is a link to some data about it. Another interesting frequency is the cosmic background radiation. This is a frequency that is believed to express the A dispersed on the void from the big bang. Radio telescopes have to avoid this frequency because it seems to be transmitted from everywhere. It is in the microwave band and local transmitter receiver systems are channeled around it because of too much interference. Lets not forget the infrared which is coming at us both ways from inside and outside. Luckily water has a great ability to absorb infrared radiation. It is one thing to be cold but cold and wet is a killer. Scientists are building antennae systems to collect near infrared but the wavelength is so short it requires nanotech plus it only captures hightemperature generated ir as one would find around industrial heating processes to capture waste heat. What an event it would be if someone actually made an array that worked in the 0 to 100 degree generated frequencies. Of course this would not require any thermal input other than what is already heating the Earth so once a unit got sold the gravy train to the top would slow down. GEandRollsRoyce can spend billions in just securing department of war contracts but cant build a thermal to electric converter. GE brings good things to life ya right. Long as your conception of a good thing is an empty wallet.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V6T-46YK91S-25P&_user=10&_origUdi=B6V6T-46YCW19-7&_fmt=high&_coverDate=04%2F30%2F1983&_rdoc=1&_orig=article&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=21ee96c09336dc0a4fd5c4f9f3a26d96
Sparks:
Thanks. Sorry I missed that in the post he said 5khz. But, the energy I have been working with in the EER, as the Russians have said, is in the 5 hz range. Different source I am sure.
Thanks for pointing that out to me.
As Tesla, and many others, have said, energy is all around us. Time to start using it.
Bill
;D Glad you guys can use my video as a reference I couldn't resist to experiment with this tower ,it was a very coincidental situation and I had limited time during vacations, but the results were exciting , I got and electric shock and my father was cracking laughing while at it, humidity made the voltage go down but in dry weather I got up to 200 volts, all isolated other than that I wouldn't beeing able to see results, a spark of a 1/4 of and inch was seen several times, guys for what I know right know If I would've pulsate such voltage through a resonating coil and so forth I would've seen amazing results, I just didn't have time to experiment more and unfortunately those dummies over there dismanteled that radio tower, mind you the tower wasn't operating at the time I did my test, I hope this observations are useful for someone and can get back to us with his own observations, results.As of now I'm trying to patent something mixing up this aereal system with another idea or apparatus, but can't tell what to protect it , it has to do with family and to reivindicate a name in history so it is a very personal matter for that reason I apologize for not giving more details about it, but in time I will let it be known.
Cheers
@kukulcangod
With respect to your post #89,
My previous business associate and I were thinking of using a long, insulated wire coiled as a loop on a wooden fence around the inside of an urban back yard in a large Midwestern city. Then use an MOT transformer to step down the voltage as a battery charger with diodes and capacitors. Come to think, the idea might not have been patentable the way we envisioned it. But then, he went out of business while working on other projects before the idea got very far.
Do you have a access to a backyard with a wooden fence near where you live or work? There would be time and wire to experiment with.
--Lee