http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-7ISaQYmlA
Thanks a lot that,s the Future
Which Top Gear episode was this? I think I missed it.
I like the modular design.
Not sure about the Hydrogen part. It would take large refineries to produce it, and large storages along highways and in neighbourhoods to be able to "tank" it like you would petrol. HHO on demand is so much more promising. We do have to do away with the basic combustion engine design though, especially in case we find we cannot get much better than 200% efficiency in producing HHO. Breaking 100% may not immadiately bring us at 400-500% as needed to conveniently convert an existing car.
Quote from: Cloxxki on December 06, 2009, 06:09:48 AM
Which Top Gear episode was this? I think I missed it.
I like the modular design.
Not sure about the Hydrogen part. It would take large refineries to produce it, and large storages along highways and in neighbourhoods to be able to "tank" it like you would petrol. HHO on demand is so much more promising. We do have to do away with the basic combustion engine design though, especially in case we find we cannot get much better than 200% efficiency in producing HHO. Breaking 100% may not immadiately bring us at 400-500% as needed to conveniently convert an existing car.
I don't see why this Hydrogen Car wouldn't run HHO, the circuitry onboard break down the sea water into Hydrogen and Oxygen anyways and you have to recombine the Oxygen for rapid combustion.
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 06, 2009, 11:07:41 AM
I don't see why this Hydrogen Car wouldn't run HHO, the circuitry onboard break down the sea water into Hydrogen and Oxygen anyways and you have to recombine the Oxygen for rapid combustion.
I don't think it has a water tank, just Hydrogen?
In a complicated and rather boring way, as James says, you're not filling up the batteries of your electric car, you're tanking Hydrogen which was taken from salted water (not sea water per se), likely somewhere at a big Exxon facility.
Once someone makes efficient water breeking, the small diesel engine in smart hybrids will be replaced by a hydrogen engine, water tank, and HHO making cell. Being efficient, hybrid style, about your water economy, seems a bit over the top though, so ditch the electric engine altogether. Use a 1980's simple 4-cylinder engine, re-tune for HHO, and blast away.
Apart from the boring Hydrogen cell, the car does seem interesting. I wonder how those hand controls work though, if you have to pick your nose on the highway?
Hi,
I remember watching this live many years ago! The car breaks down the water onboard with salt and a special substance in it too, in to hydrogen and oxygen. But there is no burning, it uses a fuel cell to create electricity directly during the re-combining of the elements back in to water through a proton-exchange-membrane, but the substance must be re-added so although you get the water back out, cannot directly split it again :( Also the cost of such membranes make the cost far too much to be practical I think...?
Regards,
Dave.
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I think the saltwater car idea is great, but we must consider the highly corrosive nature of chlorine. The resultant gas from a saline-celled electrolysis chamber can be deadly, not to mention it's ability to decrease the life ecpectancy of your engine by 30-50%, and your time between oil changed by about the same.
I think it's stupid trying to convert an internal combustion engine to run off something guzzling chlorine and hydrogen. Now, if there were some way to say ...rather than paying to fill-up, you pay to off-load, and the saline cell was just a large electrolytic chamber, and there were recyclable differential metals used..
In any event, running a car off saltwater sounds great, but it won't run for very long, there's an incompatibility between the oils used to lubricate, and the gases used in combustion. Chlorine will want to react with almost anything it comes into contact with..including the oil.