I stumbled recently onto this thread:
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/crash.html
which is again on that old rehashed subject.
But what attracted my attention is the fact that the witnesses dont agree together as to what hit the Pentagon.
Some saw a plane, others saw a missile, some said it was coming steeply, others saw it level, one saw it disappear, one saw the nose explode, or touch the ground, or wings fold forward, some said the noise was loud, others said quiet... etc. Almost nothing concords in all the testimonies.
Would it be possible that the perpetrators (we know who they are) have the technology to induce a collective hallucination simultaneously in all the people surrounding the event, so they all believe that they saw an aircraft hit the Pentagon, while the charges detonate inside the building.
I know this is very far fetched, but what would be the explanation, then. We all know that no commercial plane hit the Pentagon.
One thing that is very rarely mentionned is the fact that a E-4B was overflying the Pentagon during the attack, in restricted airspace, and filmed by CNN.
Do they have the capability to generate a hologram that big ! ? ? ? (Edit: By this, I mean can they generate a large hologram of an aircraft heading towards the pentagon, all this from the E-4B which is a special advanced electronics and communications flying center.)
Nothing is off the table...we haven't a clue how far advanced their technology is.
I've already listened to 2 apparently independent sources who reported time traveling and teleportation in the early 60's...so who really knows where the limit is.
Regards...
my opinion is the govt is trying out a relativley novel idea
one thats usually not used.........
instruct everyone, on pain of death, to give a completly
different story and discription of what happened
some true, another false, another bizzare, another illogical,
another presentation obviously lying etc etc
then the viewing public, after a while gets disinterested
and switches off because the whole thing is a farce
impossible to take seriously
we end up saying "yeah, whatever"
there you go- jobs done!
They just place 4 or 5 red herring witnesses into the mix and bob's yer uncle.
Regards...
In the PentaCon movie, witnesses totally disagree, and seem to be sincere, on a vastly different flight path of the airliner into the Pentagon. Although they "saw" it impact, I'm left with a hint of doubt they witnessed the plane penetrating the building face. From that angle, an explosion could happen 100m before the plane arrives, and you'd not know the difference.
Light poles being turned over on the official flight path, contradiction witnesses of the Pentagon police force, that's odd.
I'm left wondering if a visual trick was used. Ask yourself, if you had been told in 1990 that in 2001 we'd be able to visually cloak a jet fighter to look like a large airliner with holo/3D projection technology, would it have sounded plausible? I'm disappointed we don't have large-scale 3D movies yet. Like, a city being built around the audience. Trees popping up. Skyscrapers coming down on us. Big stuff, in 3D projected. The light poles could have been planted or pulled down on the spot, the missile/fighter was off its scheduled path, but was seen by many. Some planted witnesses support the official path. The actual plane was tiny, but was bravely armed with some bombs to make a square hole in the building, yet coming short to match the wingspan of the airliner.
I think an end-of-life airliner should be flown into a puposely placed building being a morph between Pentagon and WTC for integrity. Slowmo. See what wings do upon impact at 500mph. Where they end up. Where engines go. How fire burns.
Yes cloxxi,
that would be a good test to simulate a crash with an old airliner.
That would surely convince a lot of people that aluminum airplanes can not go right through concrete, or steel-reinforced walls.
One just has to watch videos of the twin towers where the planes' wings slip right through the walls that are made up of steel columns, and then ask himself "Is this possible?"
If Charlie Sheen really were on the truth side of this argument, he'd commission such a darned building, and such an airliner. I bet the BBC would get a permits to run it. Be it as Brainiac or Top Gear. They can launch space shuttles with a 3 wheeled car as cockpit, for crying out loud. Crashing an airliner into a building would be a boring Top Gear episode.
One thing you need to remember is that it is illegal to film the pentagon in almost any capacity. this includes from a distance, not sure how they know you are filming ..or what have you, but it's fairly common to be warned about it if you are staying in nearby hotels.
I was told passively about this when I was younger (13 or so) and staying in the area.
I remember seeing a computer generated scenario of the supposed events surrounding the 911 attack only a day after it occurred. Later I though I had actually seen it; now I remember it being CG.
Very strange how this works no?
Jadaro, what is CG ?
I believe he meant 'computer graphic'.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on March 07, 2010, 07:28:47 PM
They just place 4 or 5 red herring witnesses into the mix and bob's yer uncle.
Regards...
This statement is very true. In studies done by the government it is noted that when groups of people are affected by the same situation others are more likely to follow one persons story of that situation even if they did not witness it, but because of there proximity to the situation take the other persons story as being there own.
This is also noted in the military as a symptom of shock.
Quote from: jikwan on March 07, 2010, 07:21:38 PM
my opinion is the govt is trying out a relativley novel idea
one thats usually not used.........
instruct everyone, on pain of death, to give a completly
different story and discription of what happened
some true, another false, another bizzare, another illogical,
another presentation obviously lying etc etc
then the viewing public, after a while gets disinterested
and switches off because the whole thing is a farce
impossible to take seriously
we end up saying "yeah, whatever"
there you go- jobs done!
Quote from Az:
" This statement is very true. In studies done by the government it is noted that when groups of people are affected by the same situation others are more likely to follow one persons story of that situation even if they did not witness it, but because of there proximity to the situation take the other persons story as being there own.
This is also noted in the military as a symptom of shock. "
One bad apple will always spoil a few others close by.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on March 07, 2010, 06:51:27 PM
Nothing is off the table...we haven't a clue how far advanced their technology is.
I've already listened to 2 apparently independent sources who reported time traveling and teleportation in the early 60's...so who really knows where the limit is.
Regards...
We can take an educated guess, and suggest that it's far beyond what the public is currently aware of, and certainly well beyond present accepted scientific knowledge. We know that the hole in the pentagon was too small to admit the supposed plane. Since the FBI have a strong tendency to confiscate video footage of these events, especially footage which contradicts the official story, we don't know if the 'wreckage' photographed is genuine or planted. We don't know whether the 'witnesses' are bona fide, have been 'approached', threatened, bribed, 'got at' in some way, or are in fact entirely fake intelligence 'plants'.
The so-called '911 Commission' conclusion is now being admitted as incorrect, false, and coerced in every way, by the same people that were responsible for telling us the 'official whitewash'.
In the case of the pentagon, my feeling is a missile was involved, or a specialised military vehicle, not a standard plane. I don't think this event was a hologram - nor do I think that the 911 planes were holograms, or that the trade center buildings were zapped by a 'beam'. This is cointelpro nonsense designed to discredit the evidence that a) modifite thermite (thermate) was utilised. b) In no way did the alleged terrorists have the skills to guide those planes, with the sharp twists involved, into the trade center buildings, given their atrocious record at the CIA funded flight schools where they received their so-called 'education'. These are aerodynamic 'miracles' - another word for 'remote control' - so real experts question why bumbling idiots like Islamic terrorist patsies, who foresake their Korans for heavy drinking, bungle their CIA-funded flight classes, attend strip clubs, snort cocaine, threaten to microwave-oven their girlfriend's kittens, etc., could have been capable of such expertise.
The fact is they weren't capable, and were simply the usual cretinous dupes used by the real terrorists who prefer to remain behind the scenes - as they invariably do. That is why a good percentage of those 'terrorists' on the WTC planes are still alive and walking around today -
but funnily enough, their complaints never seem to get aired in the mainstream media.
One more thing, I don't think enough attention has been paid to the background radiation count at the WTC. Check out Ed Ward - he has some good information. There is no reason why micro-nukes should not have been utilised given the evidence, to combine a massive core flash in the basement (supported by witnesses, by the way) with support beam thermate demolition cutting at angles, so that the beams fell on themselves. You have building seven falling into its own footprint at demolition speed, without having even even been hit by a plane - this is impossible, according to all accounts. These steel chassis-type buildings have NEVER fallen by fire alone - so once again, we're being massively lied to on every count. What's 'news'? only what we uncritically accept.
Interestingly enough, Marvin Bush was in charge of security. I guess he must have been napping while the support beams were cored out with thermate demolition packs, by smartly-uniformed 'team members'.
When are we going to get up off our knees, educate ourselves, stand up to this nonsense, recognise where it's all heading and refuse to cooperate before the totalitarian global fascist state, cashless society, microchips and all the rest of it, arrives on our doormat in a nicely-printed, official envelope??
Count me out. And, by the way, if you live in the UK, or anywhere else, for that matter, love your dogs and pets, and don't want them to die of microchip-induced cancer - just say no. Remember - You're next.
Hey sf...we certainly don't know the half of things.
And we can be reasonably assured that it was a missle...like cruise.
Regards...
Excellent post, silverfish.
I will have to check Ed Ward.
What I find astonishing is all the cars that have been "burned", in an adjacent parking lot. On many, the ENGINE has been burned completely, and only some parts of the external body but not others. Fuel tanks have not exploded. This looks like some sort of advanced beam weapon that works on large steel mass only.
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam5.html#toasted
http://www.european911citizensjury.com/13.htm
Also the fact that most of the steel of the towers has disappeared, along with all of the filing cabinets, but one !
"They" do have extreme weapons, and unfortunately, I'm sure they will use them again against us. That was only the beginning.
I keep wondering, suppose there WERE ultra nano thermite and more crude explosives used. And suppose, an old jet guized with hologram tech as an airliner, was flown into that rather small hole in the Pentagon.
WHY? Why not take a REAL big airplane for the Pentagon? Why not leave the WTC burning for days? As long as you stick close to reality (planes hitting buildings, making the mess they do), you will be believed. If Building 7 must go, just arrange for an airplane. And don't pull it, if you don't have the plane in time. Unless, the fires were accidental for the perpetrators. Seting off charges not meant to go just yet.
Wasn't 2 buildings enough to justify a war for them? Why both twin towers, and risk being an airplane short for 7 with the big secret to be buried?
Why pulvarize the WTC towers, why be suspicious about how they collapsed? A true airplane would have made a great mess anyway, and likely require the buildings to be demolished.
Why stage fake video's of the event, if there appear to have been true airplanes that crashed into the WTC? And why make such a vague case for the Pentagon?
Either we are being fed with disinformation and double or even triple false evidence, or whomever planned this, was really an amateur at it, with a bad sence for drama. Did an untouchable superior ask for a good show with collapsing towers, and was it found hard, but not impossible to do? Were 3 planes demanded for NY, even if the 3rd was hard to get arranged? Is that why Building 7 had to do with rubble from the twin crashes to burst into flames, and the Pentagon had to settle for a fake plane?
Still, the tech involved in faking an airplane, with hundreds of witnesses...
One thing, many accounts state that engines were rev'd up before the impact. A gust of wind might give that idea. But I wonder if a jet liner can even DO that in the time frame of these witness accounts, such that it could be heard. A smaller jet might be able to, and do it just to aim at the target.
Those those toasted cars sur are odd! Particles that only get "rough" when exposed to higher levels of oxygen perhaps? Nothing seems inconsistent in that whole episose. I'd never heard about the odd fires before.
WHY so over the top? Are airplanes hitting buildings on televisions not good enough?
There was incriminating evidence relating to a securities fraud investigation of Bush, Cheney, and others.
The craft shot down in Philadelphia was designated to be crashed into Building 7...which is why they already had the charges in place to 'pull it'...when ordinarily it takes at least 2 weeks to set the charges in the correct locations.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on April 02, 2010, 04:03:15 PM
There was incriminating evidence relating to a securities fraud investigation of Bush, Cheney, and others.
The craft shot down in Philadelphia was designated to be crashed into Building 7...which is why they already had the charges in place to 'pull it'...when ordinarily it takes at least 2 weeks to set the charges in the correct locations.
Regards...
But the Phily plane was absent on the supposed crash site, right? Or is the new theory that the ultra-hot charges were on that flight, and "cleaned up" the crash site?
Hi cloxxki,
the W7 building was already planned for takedown, there is a video somewhere of the firefighters discussing in front of W7, and then somebody arrives screaming “get away from here, they're going to pull it down†or something similar. Then a few moments later, we hear many explosions and the building crashes down neatly on itself.
Whoever organized this were, I wouldn't say amateur, but let's say incompetent. Way too many mistakes. Good thing it wasn't perfect, at least we can prove this hasn't been done by the muslims.
The terrorists are surely not who the medias claim they are.
But let's not rejoice too soon, “they†are probably planning something much more murderous for the near future.
Any airplane crashing into the towers would NOT have required the rebuild of the whole towers. Those buildings are made to withstand these kinds of “accidentsâ€. They would have just rebuilt the 3 or 4 affected stories.
Yes, the Philly plane was, hmmm, “shining†by it's absence from the crash site.
And, as for all the sites, everything of importance has been hastily cleaned-up in the first minutes after the crashes.
It's really depressing when you think about the percentage of people who swear only by what they heard on the news, and go on living their lives thinking that everything is being taken care of by their loved government. And when you try to “enlighten†them, they think you've been reading too many “conspiracy theories†sites.
I must admit that, to date, I haven't been able to convince any of my friends of the seroiusness of the situation in the world, and not just the WTC joke. They are too DEPENDENT on their TV to know what to think. They can't even think by themselves anymore.
It's obvious that WTC was part of the plan, just a very badly carried out plan. I would have done it better myself. The world should be thankful that I'm no evil overlord.
I don't have a TV hooked up. Haven't had one in 2 years almost. Quite liberating. I've learned so much.
A poll should be launched among millions of passers-by.
"Do you bet your and your family's life on what MSM offer you are the truth?"
Only one relative comfort, "they" won't kill us all, as they need scared people to pay lots of taxes.
The Muslim excuse is wearing out though, in many corners of society. What will be next? Global Warming also didn't really get the sheepish response they hoped for. I've made a point of commenting every time I came across a 350 fundraiser.
Most baffling, it seems the global Muslim community even believes it was "their brothers" having driften and come to all this. I believe this should change, also to bring the last black sheep back in the herd.
Who'll be the one to openly put the blame on that other faith that won't eat pork?
I want to, but feel a resistanc within myself when I do it, like it's dirty. Not the pork, but the blaming a racial/religious group. Yet, blaming muslims is actually legal in Western countries. You can build a Dutch political party with it, and get close to a majority of the poll votes, apparently.
Sex used to sell, now it's hate.
The theory is that the the crew regained control over the 'Philly plane'...ergo they had to be blown out of the sky.
Sounds more likely than any other theory I've heard about, or can think of.
Regards...
Indeed cloxxki, living without a TV is LIBERATING.
It's been 3 years now for me.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on April 02, 2010, 07:46:23 PM
The theory is that the the crew regained control over the 'Philly plane'...ergo they had to be blown out of the sky.
Sounds more likely than any other theory I've heard about, or can think of.
Regards...
Even shot down planes leave 100mt wreckages. Made quite a mess at Lockerby.
It's terribly hard to shoot something down, AND make it be unseen and unfound.
The thing is clox, we have no idea what they used to shoot it down.
We do know for sure though, that they have advanced weaponry we do not know about.
Regards...
Quote from: altair on April 02, 2010, 01:46:00 PM
Excellent post, silverfish.
I will have to check Ed Ward.
What I find astonishing is all the cars that have been "burned", in an adjacent parking lot. On many, the ENGINE has been burned completely, and only some parts of the external body but not others. Fuel tanks have not exploded. This looks like some sort of advanced beam weapon that works on large steel mass only.
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam5.html#toasted
http://www.european911citizensjury.com/13.htm
Also the fact that most of the steel of the towers has disappeared, along with all of the filing cabinets, but one !
"They" do have extreme weapons, and unfortunately, I'm sure they will use them again against us. That was only the beginning.
One reason most of the steel of the towers disappeared, was that it was shipped off and sold as scrap to China in a hurry, which is the short, sharp convenient forensic evidence disposal solution. Check out Steven Jones for hard evidence of modified thermate, then look what they did to his career and position in the University. Ed Ward's evidence of elevated background tritium levels reveal the real reason why WTC fell so fast - the first steel chassis constructed building in history to do so, aided by a designer mini-nuke or nukes, quite likely, with destabilisation provided by angle-cutting thermate.
Given all this a beam weapon would be unnecessary - not that I don't doubt the existence of such technology(s) or their use in other instances.
Another wriggling 'inconvenience' in the bulging can of worms called 911 is North Tower janitor William Rodriguez. This man single-handedly dragged dozens of people to safety and led a determined campaign to coordinate survivor's and victim's families, lobbying the US Government to hold an enquiry into what really occured on that fateful day. When he came to give evidence, he was one of the only witnesses to give his evidence to the 9/11 Commission behind CLOSED DOORS. That evidence was IGNORED. He was IGNORED by the mainstream press, then, and now, because, like the firefighters who reported hearing explosions one after the other, he is yet another inconvenient witness contradicting the official story, or should I say 'credulous fairytale more full of holes than swiss cheese'.
William Rodriguez felt an explosion shake the building under his feet BEFORE the plane impacted the North Tower. A man ran screaming towards him with burnt skin falling off his face and arms. He had been standing at the open door of the lift, when a great explosive fireball flashed from _below_, blinding and burning him.
Firefighters reported hearing multiple explosions, 'boom-boom-boom', and that the machine shop in the basement was a mass of twisted fused melted metal. Remember that pools of molten metal were present at ground zero for at least THREE WEEKS after the event, more support evidence for the thermate-induced molten iron streams clearly seen in video footage cascading white-hot out of the building. Then we have building 7 collapsing in virtual free-fall into its own footprint - without being touched by a plane. This is impossible.
When you make a genuine effort to find out what really happened on 911 it's absolutely astonishing how many facts you come up with that contradict the official story, not just contradict, but make utter mincemeat out of it. There is so much more than what I have skimmed over here. What about the terrorist passport picked up miraculously unburned from the street? the fact that at least seven of the so-called perpetrators (Saudi) were alive and walking around after the event, while none of them were on the official flight list? come on. The mobile phone calls alleged to have been made from an elevation which was well out of signal range? The incredibly slow response time of the FAA and NORAD? the black boxes, which seem to have disappeared down a black hole, along with any interesting video footage that contradicts the main story. The suspicious stock market activity monitored by the CIA, indicating insider knowledge before the event? Funny, we haven't heard any more details since then, for example, who had the insider knowledge, surveillance capacity and resources to profit, in advance? it wouldn't be a certain lettered agency and their velvet-lapelled controllers, would it?
The command to stand down given by Dick Cheney, witnessed by a subordinate. Berny Silverstein's billion-dollar insurance options on WTC. His own recorded statement that we had to 'Pull the Plug' i.e. demolish the building, contradicting others. The BBC's footage (which they conveniently 'lost') where building seven is standing tall in the background while the hapless idiot newsreader announces it's destruction is already history? The New York Mayor's prior warning of a terrorist event? Bush's lesson about goats while Andy Card is whispering in his ear? The fact that, on their own web site, the FBI do not state that Bin Laden is wanted for 911? Easy, he had nothing to do with it, because he died of kidney failure years ago... now we have to endure one badly faked video after another, which always seems to pop up at the most politically opportune moment.
The list goes on and on and on, but the crime remains the same. The real perpetrators remain in the shadows, having washed their manicured hands of any clinging paper trails.
On its own, one piece of evidence would never stand up in court. But if you take it all altogether, the evidence would easily convict, if the crime were something else other than 911. How does the Establishment deal with a problem like this? Easy! We have something called a 'Commission'. We put all our people in charge and we run it like a dog and pony show. Outcome, the accused come out smelling like roses. Sorted.
Hi silverfish,
Again excellent post. About the steel that has been shipped to China, I know that's what they said they would do, but there must not have been a lot of steel to ship because the pile of debris was so small compared to what it should have been.
Everything was turned into dust. That dust must have contained a great percentage of steel however because it began to rust quickly in the following days. Everything had a brown color in the pit.
I've checked the Ed Ward site and indeed it points to some kind of thermonuclear device.
Another thing, I found this captivating video about John Lear recently:
http://projectcamelot.org/john_lear.html
He is of the opinion that no planes were used in the attacks, and that it was all holograms ! Picture AND sound ! That would explain a lot.
I'm sure it wasn't a hallucination but ask any police officer and they will tell you that witness testimony almost always varies.
Many people seeing the same thing often describe it differently. Some add to it, some subtract rom it ...
Quote from: altair on April 06, 2010, 09:20:02 AM
Hi silverfish,
Again excellent post. About the steel that has been shipped to China, I know that's what they said they would do, but there must not have been a lot of steel to ship because the pile of debris was so small compared to what it should have been.
Everything was turned into dust. That dust must have contained a great percentage of steel however because it began to rust quickly in the following days. Everything had a brown color in the pit.
I've checked the Ed Ward site and indeed it points to some kind of thermonuclear device.
Another thing, I found this captivating video about John Lear recently:
http://projectcamelot.org/john_lear.html
He is of the opinion that no planes were used in the attacks, and that it was all holograms ! Picture AND sound ! That would explain a lot.
John Lear has well known intelligence connections, so I would be careful to take anything he says with a large pinch of salt. If you want to discredit the 911 truth movement, and you were a counterintelligence officer, what would you do? The first thing you would do is to toss a way out-theory into the 911 souffle and sit back to watch the whole thing bubble and rise up only to collapse in a disastrous mess. That's why I'm wary about people like Fetzer and anyone who insists that beams, holograms, and the no-plane theory was responsible and this is where we should focus our attention, because it's so easy to get people fixated on issues which are not only easy to disprove, but tend to discredit bona fide researchers - that's the whole idea.
We should instead focus our attention on facts that emerge from lab testing, independently verified witness reports, photographic evidence from trusted sources, verifiable media reports, reports from reliable architects and structural engineers, and so on.
It's not that I don't believe that holographic technology or beam weapons are real. On the contrary - I just don't see that their use would have been necessary, and in fact would have been overkill. For example, it's now a given fact that remote control capabilities are built into all these big passenger planes. All you would need is to program the system without the pilot's knowledge, or hack into it during the operation. The so-called terrorists, as we now know from their flight school trainers, couldn't have flown a paper plane without help, much less aerobatically persuade a 707 to sharply twist into the buildings in a way that seasoned pilots have admitted they would have serious trouble doing. You had a high-flying white jet caught on video which could easily have been monitoring, or part of the remote control operation - and then you had the dramatic collapse of the buildings, which had no connection with the comparitively minor damage inflicted by the planes. You had fireballs caused by exploding fuel and even an engine which passed right through the building and landed some distance away, then there is all the footage of the planes and the numerous eyewitness accounts.
Yes, you could conceivably have set up a situation where this was all a kind of holographic, collective illusion, but would it have been necessary? I don't think so. The real holographic collective illusion is the fact that most people still believe that this whole thing was carried out by 19 Saudi terrorists with box-cutters, acting on orders from a guy in a cave who died years ago, and in any case, was a patsy chosen by Obama's 'advisor' globalist Zbignew Berezenski, from the mujahadeen in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets, and who toured military bases in America under the name 'Tim Osman'.
There is absolutely no way that Bin Laden, acting independently, had the intelligence, inside connections and resources to carry off what he supposedly did - But he makes a great villain! he's dead, so you can resurrect him any time you like, video or not, doesn't matter. The NSA can't 'find' him even though they have satellite technology which can practically read a postage stamp from space. This is such a joke, that they just can't find him... such utter nonsense! If they wanted to find him they would have done so years ago, believe me. They can track anyone on the globe within 3 feet by triangulating their mobile phones. They can track them anywhere on the grid with ECHELON. They have satellites, infra-red, acoustic, electromagnetic, HAARP. You name it, they've got it. They even have proprietary cellular technology that can detect the signals given off by your motherboard, and non-obtrusively hack into your system, according to one disaffected employee who spilled the beans. But they just can't find Bin Liner, way too much trouble...
Yes, lab analysis, like nano-thermite found in WTC dust.
Hey, as long as Bin Laden is "out there", the war again terrorism obviously, is "on"!
I'm still baffled they'd choose a friend, or relative of friends, of the Bushes. Do they need this confusion? Or couldn't they find a more suitable dead guy to take the blame?
They even found Saddam, rather easily. And this is a guy who had opportunities to vanish. Out of fear, civilians would lie convincingly for him.
When was the last time "muslims" carried out an act of terrorism? All we get is Russian extremists.
The last politician killed in my country was a gay right winger, killed by a confused left wing activist. A white, christian, left winger. One flipped out muslim stabbed and killed an outspoken, islam-isulting filmmaker. He explored his freedom of speech, and passed the threshold of good taste, publically. If you insult a billion people's religion, one is bound to lose it. Try insulting Christ in the US, make is nasty. Will you life, happily and safely? Muslim are such warm and loyal people, if they are brought up properly. This IS their achilles' heel, especially when confronted with western ways, and being looked down upon as 2nd class citizen. It doesn't work well for them, and they are woking hard on that. But airplanes, impossible manoeuvres, the works...nah, too much effort. If there were extremist with the intention to spread fear, they'd hit much harder. Yes, I said harder. It only takes one madman, and nothing can prevent utter disaster if this one nutcase is intelligent. I may have seen too many Die Hard movies, but I do believe that one man with bad plans, can get the US in state of war, with any chosen enemy, and even trying to figure out who runs the country if even the VP is taken out. All the US people should fear, is the people who sell them medcare, charge them taxes, and write their laws.
At this point all possibilities on the method are valid...the important thing is that we know it was an inside job.
Regards...
People must get to the end of this as soon as possible because the important (incriminating) witnesses are dying one by one of suspicious causes, and the workers in the pit are dying of cancer.
The ones who know important facts should speak up now before it's too late.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on April 02, 2010, 04:03:15 PM
There was incriminating evidence relating to a securities fraud investigation of Bush, Cheney, and others.
The craft shot down in Philadelphia was designated to be crashed into Building 7...which is why they already had the charges in place to 'pull it'...when ordinarily it takes at least 2 weeks to set the charges in the correct locations.
Regards...
My understanding is that the charges likely consisting of super nano-thermite or thermate would have had to be encapsulated inside the the support beams to be effectively triggered. Marvin Bush was in charge of security, so he would have been aware of any special teams coming in on some false pretext like servicing the electrics, wiring or whatever. There is no way a team like that could have access unless this was sanctioned at the highest level - what they did was pre-planned well in advance and the charges could have been set months before the event, including the mini-nuke, which was likely used because it literally pulverised large amounts of concrete and metal into fine dust and left tritium radiation traces, something which conventional explosives don't do. There is one photograph of a beam standing in the debris and it has been quite obviously sheered cleanly at an acute angle, which is what you would want if thermate were used, the top section destabilises and just slides off the base.
The charges inside the beams could have been sitting there for God knows how long according to some pre-determined plan and there may be a similar setup to what happened in Oklahoma where the force of the explosion was out of all proportion to what was supposed to have caused it.
If you want a real 911 commission instead of a blatant whitewash, then a full and complete testimony by Marvin Bush, accompanied with unadulterated cctv records of everything significant that took place in the buildings in the month leading up to the event, might reveal a very different picture than the fake scenario we have been brainwashed with up to now.
My earlier post"
" The was incriminating evidence relating to the securities fraud investigation of Bush, Cheney, and others. "
What I forgot to include was that the info was housed in 'Building 7'.
And I agree your post totally silver...but this issue is too divisive to initiate any responsibility process.
The only issue we can muster enough public support to get thing started, is their pedophelia...because most everybody is against that stuff.
That is their weak point...the entry point if you will.
Regards...