http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2949640/Noahs-Ark-found-in-Turkey.html
Be sure to watch the video there also! I always suspected it would be found in our generation. And this is the real deal, no losing the sight or can't find it, etc. etc as has been the case with so many spottings.
Cheers,
Bruce (We do indeed live in the End Times...And I know whose side I stand on!) I know who wins... I have read the end of the book!
Bunch of boards above 11,000 ft.....gimme DNA samples of animals that were on board and you'll make a believer out of me... ;)
and they ruled out a Human Settlement why?
call me agnostic.
Quote:
"It's not 100 per cent that it is Noah's Ark, but we think it is 99.9 per cent that this is it."
It's that 0.1% that will keep them from being right in this matter....
hmmm i thought the noah's ark was found already by a snowy mountain somewhere?
It is clearly NOT just a bunch of timber.
Also see: http://www.noahsarksearch.com/anomaly.htm
Given the evidence, I have, since 1995, leaned toward the Durupinar site as being where the Ark came to rest.
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/DTimes-2.htm
http://arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm
http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/1.htm
http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/PR/TemporaryCustom_PS_File.1.pdf
I have long thought that an actual Greater Ararat find would be highly improbable given the various logistical problems associated with such a landing site.
But Who knows what we'll see next!
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
now all they need to do is confirm it is a ship and not some dug out built by some cross country traders.
Noah's Ark could not fit male and female of every kind in the world on his ship. so if he did take animals he took local animals which doesn't account for the other 1 billion species on this planet.
historians believe it was a local flood and not a global one. very little about Noah makes any sense at all. except that it was story of someones tragedies.
QuoteNoah's Ark could not fit male and female of every kind in the world on his ship.
The above statement is a typical assumption, usually made by those unfamiliar with what the Bible 'actually' says. If one reads the biblical account for themselves, nowhere is found the claim that every resultant "species" that exists in our modern era was indeed onboard.
http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/sizeark.html
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
Gentlemen, not only has the Ark been found but much more archaeological evidence in support of the Biblical record has and is being found....
http://arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm
It's ALL there, including the obsidianized granite peak of Sinai and the rock that Moses struck, God's spirit causing it to split in two, with water rushing down both sides of the hill so that humans and cattle could water separately. The erosion evidence shows that the sixty foot high boulder at Horeb produced copious amounts of water for quite some time!
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
@Techstuff ...is that website supposed to be funny?
they are showing the erosion of hillside surroundings to be in a proposed shape of the ark?....where is there solid evidence in that?
calculating wood erosion...it seems there should be more evidence left than what is being shown...and that is calculating with pines specific gravity.
http://www.treesearch.fs.fed.us/pubs/5985
p.s. i have some brimstone in my backyard i can sell ya ;)
http://arkdiscovery.com/brimstone.htm
Quotep.s. i have some brimstone in my backyard i can sell ya
I'll bet it's cheap and overpriced too!
But not like Father makes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBbQrdUHJpQ
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
And where would be the modern day equivalents of sodom and gomorrah?
http://www.prophecynewsheadlines.com/2010/03/03/joe-brandts-california-earthquake-vision/comment-page-1/#comment-31593
Anyone see a pattern of what what history shows us seems to occur with stunning regularity when empires begin to crumble under the weight of their own debauchery?
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
I read a book about 25 years ago, that said the ark was laying on Mount Ararat, I think that's how it's spelled. The book was
called, The lost world, or something like that. The guy who wrote it was Vogle Noof, or something like that.. Has anybody heard of it???? I would really like to try and find it again. If any of you could give me any info on that would be great....
Quote from: TechStuf on April 28, 2010, 06:45:50 AM
The above statement is a typical assumption, usually made by those unfamiliar with what the Bible 'actually' says. If one reads the biblical account for themselves, nowhere is found the claim that every resultant "species" that exists in our modern era was indeed onboard.
http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/sizeark.html
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
the bible is nothing more than a historical diary of people and events, when weird things happen it is blamed upon a God and or gods of some sort or lessor.
would you like to be man handled into a volcano to appease the gods so that your families and tribe can have a good crop next year! some against their own will.
God is a construct of the human mind and from the Human mind at this time only until Aliens say otherwise.
if a super advanced superior alien race came to earth and told me that God does exist then I would probably believe them otherwise if they said it doesn't I would still believe them, since God is only a construct of your dubious imagination i guess God does exist but only for those who brainwash themselves to believe in it.
when you read a book a few times it's a good book to read but when you read a book a hundred plus times it becomes a mental illness and you are now becoming in danger of becoming obsessed.(fanaticism).
mental illness goes a long way in many shapes and sizes and some not so recognizable and some not even discovered yet. people force their kids to believe in invisible deities every second of the world and some by force, I know, I have seen it in the churches a long with other atrocities.
also as a side note, the structure that was seen on the mount was also taken by a U.S satellite decades ago and was labeled #666 as a record ID.
even religion in Government and Politics always seems to peek out its ugly face.
remember those people who walk down the streets talking to their friends and there is nobody there but air, complete conversations, you can go right upon to one of those people and ask them to introduce his/her friends to you and they will! these people not only existed now but for hundreds of thousands of years. there are your gods for you. completely nuts. but to people like them they are real but only in their mind.
life always finds a way.
Quoteeven religion in Government and Politics always seems to peek out its ugly face.
As you, in your ignorance, also seem to epitomize so well. For it is your "belief" also that is peeking out it's arrogant and self assuming visage.
What you consistently fail to realize is that ALL is belief. The supposedly 'brightest' minds in the 'civilized' world are always finding that the 'facts' they once 'believed' in are not necessarily so, upon deeper study!
And when those "aliens" you speak of do arrive, and point out all the signs around you which point directly to the wisdom of our Creator, you will, as you have admitted,
Believe....
Unfortunately by that point, it will be too late for the arrogant ones.
This doesn't have to include you.
Healthy imagination and all....
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
Christ only performed miracles when asked.
They are all water based.
Human body, wine, spit in the eye, woman at the well, lame man by the pool, Water gushing forth at Crucifixion.
Another interesting note when Christ was born a star appeared. When He died on the cross the skies grew dark, rained, the earth rumbled. When he arose the earth rumbled again.
Now he is the really interesting part:
The expressions in Revelation are seen now all over the world. The mass chaos, confusion, geopolitical and geophysical problems, wars, greed, starvation, disease. We are at a time where our understanding in religion, faith, science, history make us all aware of what we see by the use of technology. No one can deny what they understand no matter what you believe.
No where in our history has there been massive earthquakes, massive volcanoes, huge solar flares, massive tidal waves, meteors and all in the same times?
Pure science.
Here is another one:
The non believers state that the Earth is billions of years old along with everything else but when it comes to their own mortality it is finite.
The Christians believe that the whole physical system is quite young yet we go on forever.
The nonbelievers believe this is all there is yet cannot explain where they come from. The past is forever but there is no future.
The believers believe there is more and know where they come from. The past doesn't matter and how can you make the future better?
Mathew asked Jesus 'How do you do all those miracles?' Jesus replied 'You can do this and more!' Imagine the power of the mind stated here? To be able to look at reality like it is yours to play with, to know peace. On the other hand the non-believers have the reality they cant abide by like wars, greed, poverty, death, sickness, infirmities, destruction, no peace.
What makes a small mind so atune to the addiction of ignorance or lack of?
Jesus stated 'Ye have not because ye ask not.' You mean to tell me I have everything at a thought? I am told my mind is the most powerful thing in the universe?
Yet most struggle to think...
We are the generation that 'Sees it all' spoken of in Revelation'. Sit back and watch. The show is just starting.
99.9% of all living species on this planet has no belief in god nor cares about a god. life goes on.
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on April 28, 2010, 07:01:37 PM
99.9% of all living species on this planet has no belief in god nor cares about a god. life goes on.
but how long does it carry on the way it is ...?
why is there gods anyways ..
the HUMANS NEVER LISTENED !
so there power was taken .. i beleave there to be a agreement carved in stone age old ... the power of humans flip flop ... it is currently being restored !
just my opinion !
ist
anyways i try to stay out of this type of conversation ... to each there own this is what it is to have a human experience ..
regards
It is interesting to note that not a single experiment ever performed in a laboratory has created "life". It is an accepted truth that spontaneous generation of life does not occur from non-life. This has never, ever been shown to be false.
Evolution is a nice theory, and it seems to fit in nicely with an atheist's view of the world, but there is still that nagging problem of where life began. Life had to spring from non-living materials, and yet, because the variable of long time lines it is accepted that this is how life began: by sheer chance.
If thousands of experiments were run simultaneously that mimicked the young earth we would see if the amino acids and compounds of complex molecules would form a living microbe. This has never been fully explored or tested.
Until life forms from sterile, non-living materials, the variable of what created life will never leave the surety of the necesscity of the need for a superior being to create it. Without concrete proof one way or the other our belief in or against the existance of God is merely that; a Belief. For those of us who do believe, it is known as Faith.
Awesome points guys.
As for:
Quote99.9% of all living species on this planet has no belief in God nor cares about a god.
I could throw out some whispy "statistic" and say that 99.9% of the person quoted above also has no belief in god nor cares about a god....(unless the god receiving devotion is one's belly, t.v., etc....)
But it's often that .1% which comes back to bite one....
Without Faith according to accurate knowledge all is lost.
Wisdom does not come without sorrow. And the hour is so very late...
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on April 28, 2010, 07:01:37 PM
99.9% of all living species on this planet has no belief in god nor cares about a god. life goes on.
I would respond by saying that unbelief never moves God, but rather faith! The eyes of the Lord search to and fro throughout the Earth to see those whose heart is turned soley towards Him. For without faith, it is impossible to please God. And the saddest thing of all, is that all of creation speaks that there is a Creator. It does not whisper it, but yells it through creation and sings it through the stars. Yet the creation would rather worship that which has been created while ignoring the Creator. Yet our unbelief does not move God, but saddens him. As it is written, so shall it come to pass... That every knee shall bow and every tounge will confess, that Jesus the Christ (Messiah) is Lord. Do it before death, mixed with faith, and you will be born again to new life. Deny Him now in this life, and you will still bow your knee and confess, but it will be on the judgement day.
Most people make their mistake by comparing their life with that of another, and thinking that because their morals, etc, are better, all is well with their soul. It is about a the realization that compared to God, we have all blown it, every single one of us. This is why we need saving. The events from Revelation, Daniel, Ezekiel, Matthew 24, etc., are soon to be played out. It is not so much God judging the world as it is, that he is shaking every faulty foundation that we wicked humans have built our lives upon. What is to play out is really God's Loving Patience, attempting to bring humankind to repentance. For trust me when I say, that he would not need 7 years of revelations to destroy man.
Most will not listen nor repent, even when all is showed before them. But the few, they will. Broad is the path that leads to destruction, and wide is the road and many there be that go on it. But narrow is the way that leads to life, and few there be that find it... I hope you make the right choice.
Cheers,
Bruce
Wow. Just wow.
Thanks Bruce.
Christ promised Luke at chapter 21:25-28 which signs would appear soon before the end of this old world, and I am glad Luke chose to pass it on! These signs are here now. We are moving swiftly beyond the beginnings of these things. I, like Bruce and many others, am standing Up and Lifting up my head in expectation of our Redeemer, Christ Yeshua, Who is soon to return.
Blessings all, dear readers, in Christ Yeshua. The One Who offered Himself up like a Lamb for this broken world.....And will soon return Like the Lion for us as well!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQh1cjZLmUo
Mitch
I am glad I am with the I am.
Where else could such a simple repeat be made about such a simple trinity? ;D
Let me say that I'm indifferent as to whether or not it is the 'real' Noah's Ark, but I came across the below link via Rense's site with the bold heading "The Great Noah's Ark Hoax" and was eager to read what evidence it contained to support this. Answer? None at all, just lots of baseless rhetoric! Though it did raise a few valid points, one questioning the reliability of carbon-dating in the first place - no doubt the same 'debunkers' would be the first to cite carbon-dating evidence, just so long as it supported their pet-agenda. Human nature I suppose...
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-17009-Freethought-Examiner~y2010m4d28-The-Great-Noahs-Ark-Hoax (http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-17009-Freethought-Examiner~y2010m4d28-The-Great-Noahs-Ark-Hoax)
Quote from: ResinRat2 on April 28, 2010, 07:31:46 PM
It is interesting to note that not a single experiment ever performed in a laboratory has created "life". It is an accepted truth that spontaneous generation of life does not occur from non-life. This has never, ever been shown to be false.
Evolution is a nice theory, and it seems to fit in nicely with an atheist's view of the world, but there is still that nagging problem of where life began. Life had to spring from non-living materials, and yet, because the variable of long time lines it is accepted that this is how life began: by sheer chance.
If thousands of experiments were run simultaneously that mimicked the young earth we would see if the amino acids and compounds of complex molecules would form a living microbe. This has never been fully explored or tested.
Until life forms from sterile, non-living materials, the variable of what created life will never leave the surety of the necesscity of the need for a superior being to create it. Without concrete proof one way or the other our belief in or against the existance of God is merely that; a Belief. For those of us who do believe, it is known as Faith.
Science is still very young, wait till it grows up a bit.
Science has identified four forces. Where do the forces orginate from? Plasma physicists have observed life like behaviours like replication reproduction eating healing etc. demonstrated by laboratory plasmas. We all could be children of lightning storms. There has to be something that creates the forces. Simple things like pressure are on the surface quite intuitive but start to delve deeper and everything gets grey. At this point I stand in awe of the creative force.
Quote from: sparks on April 29, 2010, 07:22:52 AM
At this point I stand in awe of the creative force.
Ilúvatar... the wielder of the secret fire, the flame imperishable.
and so it was written...
Therefore Ilúvatar gave to their vision Being, and set it amid the Void, and the Secret Fire was sent to burn at the heart of the World; and it was called Eä. â€" "Valaquenta"
Latest Noah's Ark 'just wood planted on Ararat'
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=146941
“But Dr. Price, who is spearheading efforts to explore two competing locations of Noah’s Ark, sent an e-mail dispatch to supporters with his personal take on the alleged find, asserting the structure is a hoax perpetrated by a Kurdish guide and his partners to extort money from Chinese evangelical Christiansâ€
To be sure, Dr. Price has a competing interest in proving this to be a fake.
Cobwebs in the corners? It just goes to show you that you can never trust everything at face value where people are involved. There are so many crooks and cons out in this world.
I just thought you would all find this interesting.
Oh that we could bring a smile to our creators face!
regarding the dogubayazit site: lorence collins, a retired geology professor from california state university, northridge, and the late david fasold, a one-time proponent of that site, wrote a scientific summary claiming the location is "bogus."
http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/bogus.html
is all this hubbub about the ark just a pretense for another 'crusade'?
Uh, What's rain?
Regardless of beliefs here we are all intelligent enough to the see and understand the immensity of the macro/microcosm, the infinite range outside the range of our spectral existance. From that vantage point we look at our reality and gasp at the minisculity. And we have the power to encompass the grandness of it all with our puny minds? A small subset would be ants building Mt. Ararat and understanding the concept that this could be the next tower of Babel but bigger than that. And even grasp the concept of flying around it?
The human mind has the capability of labelling everything it understands but is not at ease at making everything work. Everything is just too big!
The single celled organisms have no concept of the scientist but go about their lifetime agressive behavior like their environment is all there is. Kind of like us.
Quote from: ketone on April 27, 2010, 09:15:24 PM
Bunch of boards above 11,000 ft.....gimme DNA samples of animals that were on board and you'll make a believer out of me... ;)
and they ruled out a Human Settlement why?
call me agnostic.
ketone has a point.
I usually don't comment on potentially religious subjects unless they're made known first. A cable news anchor interviewed a scientist, and that scientist had the same opinion as ketone.
1) The group claims radiocarbon dating to 4,800 BCE. Where were the samples?
2) Why didn't the group write a research paper first with the help of a degreed scientist? It's their word against the rest of worldwide orthodox science.
3) Lastly, a cable TV documentary (possibly the Discovery Channel?) by scientific professionals tested wooden and plastic scale models with the same physical proportions as the Bibical Ark, and found the design unstable in rough seas--
on camera. Lacking inherent flotation stability, too--especially if the top deck was left uncovered. The model sank in about 30 seconds.
Was a full size vessel any more stable, or not? Rather doubtful, IMHO.
--Lee
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on April 29, 2010, 03:30:06 PM
ketone has a point.
I usually don't comment on potentially religious subjects unless they're made known first. A cable news anchor interviewed a scientist, and that scientist had the same opinion as ketone.
1) The group claims radiocarbon dating to 4,800 BCE. Where were the samples?
2) Why didn't the group write a research paper first with the help of a degreed scientist? It's their word against the rest of worldwide orthodox science.
3) Lastly, a cable TV documentary (possibly the Discovery Channel?) by scientific professionals tested wooden and plastic scale models with the same physical proportions as the Bibical Ark, and found the design unstable in rough seas--on camera. Lacking inherent flotation stability, too--especially if the top deck was left uncovered. The model sank in about 30 seconds.
Was a full size vessel any more stable, or not? Rather doubtful, IMHO.
--Lee
I would say that they did not build it to biblical specs... I have seen replicas as well as many documentaries and they float very well indeed...LOL Besides it would not have been very nice of the Lord to give directions to a build and have it not work... that is reserved only for members of the OU community... LOL Sorry, couldn't resist that last one!
I know the real one was fine! And with an open top deck? In a rain storm? LOL We are not talking the cruise ship Noah, but an Ark. Not the little toys they sell in toy stores for babies, but a super efficient, massive carrier, built to weather the storm of the ages...
Cheers,
Bruce
P.S. Man in Hong Kong built a scale replica of the ark and it floats fine....LOL and no Carnival Cruise lines open top deck. I guess they decided to forgo the pool seeing how the earth was flooded and all... ;-)
Good points, Bruce. Those who favor denigration of the Biblical record can usually be counted upon to misinterpret, misconstrue, or even outright misappropriate the ancient texts and their context.
Nowhere does God's Word imply that the measurements given were all static figures without variation and, as any boat builder in Noah's day could understand, the numbers given were quite likely a combination of 'furthest extent' and 'mean' figures.
If one applies the royal egyptian cubit, a measurement with which Noah was likely familiar, the boat shaped remains at Durupinar fit the description very well.
Those 'learned types' who decry the ark site as being a natural result of downhill flow formation don't have an honest leg to stand on as the narrow end is UPHILL, not at the bottom as is required for such 'teardrop' formations to exist.....and there are no horizontal flow identifiers, the ribs stand UPRIGHT.
From what I have seen, the evidence is very compelling for the Durupinar site.
Regards,
TS
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on April 29, 2010, 09:58:32 PM
I would say that they did not build it to biblical specs... I have seen replicas as well as many documentaries and they float very well indeed...LOL
That's also a point. The investigators may have used imprecise or inaccurate measurements.
Quote
Besides it would not have been very nice of the Lord to give directions to a build and have it not work... that is reserved only for members of the OU community... LOL Sorry, couldn't resist that last one!
Well, okay, point taken. I didn't see that one coming. ;D >:( (combined smileys, if possible--no software analog)
Quote
I know the real one was fine! And with an open top deck? In a rain storm? LOL
I forgot what the reasoning behind the open top deck design was. By any reasoning, it seems farfetched.
--Lee
I'm just another hypocrite who sometimes gets too emotional about the facts as I see them, even as I call others on doing the same.
My apologies.
I do believe, however, that we will all get to see the Truth of these matters soon enough.
TS
With respect to Reply #35:
Was TechStuf referring to me?
If so, your last post, #35 came up on my Yahoo! account as a reply notification. By itself.
What I will do is:
Uncheck this thread and all other religiously-oriented threads for future notifications and 'returning to this topic' as well.
That should fix the problem. It seems Yahoo! doesn't recognize 'ignore thread' demands from OU's software. The Moderators may want to take note.
--Lee
Let's back up the Ark and get some truth here.
1:) The village above the site is the new home disembarcation site. Nice flat piece of ground to park an Ark. Then you have a static home for the new migration outside to take place. And you have wood for a starter home. Check the village for remnants.
2:) The names of the places are by the people for the people. Check the starting year of their calendar. I am sure they can tell time real well and keep track of the seasons too.
3:) The altitude of 13,000 feet would not make the event a local one unless the Ark flies too? Or how do you park an Ark on higher ground?
4:) The site is made up of an array of mathematically suspended, architecturally modelled objects. And they are petrified. Petrified? Is it prehistoric or is the Earth not that old? Petrified in 6 to 10 thousand years? Science has always claimed petrified wood was prehistoric. It takes Million of Years! Yeah, right...
5:) Petrified mammal droppings? We don't even have petrified dinosaur poo! The DNA is locked in place. Holy shit. No literally. No cursing intended. Can everyone see the ramifications here? We could clone the whole family! Or better yet match the village DNA with the Ark residents. Is anybody out there thinking? Why we could even get an idea of the animal populous.
6:) God always mocks man's blatant ignorance.
And #7 is the cout deta is...
7:) 'And the stones will cry out.' Habakkuk 2:11 The stones of the wall will cry out, and the beams of the woodwork will echo it.
8:) 'Verily I say unto thee that all these things shall come to pass'.
The model of the passages echoes forever. The people at the time were told many times by Noah and asked by God once. Things are done in duplicity in the Bible so that a pattern can be seen and a response / action taken. Normally people ask when they are at the end of their decision process. But an exception here is given because the end comes before realization. His desire is that none should perish. But he stated 'I shall never leave you nor foresake you'. And He doesn't. It is our personal actions that exclude all.
This solar system is shutting down. That is the way this time piece works. If man's first decision was love instead of hate we would be off this planet and miss the coming storm. But the life guard is always on duty and forever waiting for an oppotunity to throw us a life preserver. Or do you just want to drown?
If you choose hate then you have wasted time. The story of the tower of Babel is a good example of coordination but the goal was wrong.
But for those who refuse to acknowledge history are doomed to repeat it. There is only one safe place...
@Bruce,
Thanks and many thanks to your congregation. Give them all hugs for me.
The Durupinar site has all the appearance of a decayed ship with collapsed deck mound in the middle and even matches the Biblical length dimension almost dead on, (given the use of the royal egyptian cubit) which puts the length at 515ft.
Huge alloy rivets are found all over the site, most rusted badly, but one sample found in good condition was tested and determined to even include traces of titanium. Also a piece of petrified deck plank was found and when a sample piece was sawn off, the interior showed it to be laminated wood! If it's fake, the conspiracy had to have taken place eons ago! Gopher/Kopher wood, apparently is a type of wood treated with lamination layers....!
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm
Ron wyatt once prayed for an earthquake to expose more of the site and one came quickly, raising the remains from the ground considerably. Below is how the site looked before the earthquake....Since the quake, there has been an apparently deep crack running down the center of the collapsed deck mound and it's beyond me why no further excavation is being done. That is, unless the Turks are preventing such for political, religious reasons?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f92_1272573607
all it proves is there is a greater fool to believe in. not only will everyone be buried, it will be the blackest moment in your history.
when you fail the world ends, for you.
Ya lost me there....
Quote from: giantkiller on April 30, 2010, 11:09:14 PM
Ya lost me there....
when you fail, the whole world doesn't give a shit. it just keeps going and going. no matter who you are or what you think you are.
it will not end. it only ends for you.
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on April 30, 2010, 11:27:24 PM
when you fail, the whole world doesn't give a shit. it just keeps going and going. no matter who you are or what you think you are.
it will not end. it only ends for you.
What the World thinks, is irrelevant. Jesus says to love not the world neither the things of the world, which are the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life. All of our lives are like a vapor of smoke, here for a moment and then gone. But in the scope or Eternity, the hardships that we endure in this life are but fleeting, here for but a moment... compared with the wonders and rewards promised to the purchased, those who have accepted the gift of Eternal life. When this gift is accepted, your name is written in His, Jesus' Book of Life. And on that day, your name will be read.
What seems to be the end, is simply a new beginning. Hopelessness and despair will pass away. If you only have but a speck of faith, you can experience this joy and peace now, even in the midst of everyday life. I have walked with Him now for 28 years. He is faithful even when I have been faithless. He is a friend that sticks closer than a brother. He is not a rule book, nor a building but rather the lover of my life, the keeper of my soul, and my anchor in a storm. He is no respecter of persons, he does not play favorites.
If you don't believe me...speak to him, believing, this very day and he will answer. Ask, and you will receive. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened for you. For it is written, "that whosoever believeth on the Lord, shall not be ashamed." And, "Whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved."
For God so love you that he gave his only Son, so that if you would believe on Him you would be saved. For if you believe in your heart that God has raised Jesus from the dead, and speak out with your mouth, that Jesus the Christ (messiah) is Lord, master, ruler of your life, you will be saved. Saved from your wrongdoing, saved from an eternity seperated from God, saved from despair and self delusion.
Cheers,
Bruce
lol! wow.
QuoteIf you don't believe me...speak to him, believing, this very day and he will answer. Ask, and you will receive. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened for you. For it is written, "that whosoever believeth on the Lord, shall not be ashamed." And, "Whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved."
Dear Lord......What are the resonant frequencies of my broken TPU? :-*
QuoteDear Lord......What are the resonant frequencies of my broken TPU? :-*
It's not wise to mock our Creator. One does not begin a relationship with the One True God by facetiously asking Him to bend to your will.
Such mockery is often met with reproof, which inspires learning.
Blessings in Christ Yeshua,
TS
Sheesh.....Who wants to be part of a Creators plan...if "The Creator" doesn't have a sense of Humor? To me....These ideas of what the Creator Perceives are all Man-made belief systems anyway....no offense.
Noah probably used the wood to build shelters.
Or ski's to get down the mountain?
QuoteSheesh.....Who wants to be part of a Creators plan...if "The Creator" doesn't have a sense of Humor?
An important question indeed. A 'good' sense of humor is needed now more than ever.
Certainly our Father can easily determine the difference between mockery, twisted humor, and good humor.....
I for one, am glad it is not I who must judge.
:-* ....
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
For a bit of balance...
" A former member of the expedition whose sponsors this week claimed to have found the legendary biblical boat buried beneath the snows of Turkey's Mount Ararat says the "discovery" was probably a hoax."
More here...
http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/noahs-ark-found-insider-randall-price-now-says-discovery-may-be-a-hoax/19459208
Regards...
QuoteFor a bit of balance...
" A former member of the expedition whose sponsors this week claimed to have found the legendary biblical boat buried beneath the snows of Turkey's Mount Ararat says the "discovery" was probably a hoax."
I'm certainly not surprised, as there is a veritable 'boatload' (punny, I know) of evidence to support the Durupinar site, the way it is.
And much more is on the way....!
Blessings in Christ Yeshua,
TS
I still can't believe in fairy tales and this does nothing to convince me..
Quote from: Red on May 04, 2010, 10:32:23 AM
I still can't believe in fairy tales and this does nothing to convince me..
who is trying to convince you ?
it is you wich must understand your self .. more so than anyone convinceing you ..
regards
ist
and you can beleave this as earth lived it !
when i started out down my path i had little proof such things were possible .. how ever i always had the WONDER ... this lead me to find out more .. after i first built and spent 1000$'s and hundreds of hours on my turbine ..
i discovered in my mind it was possible to make it run on its self .. simply by removeing all things that can and would slow it down ..
or allowing a buffer time ... A SPINN UP ... once something is set in motion it tends to stay in motion .. with EASE thuss allowing to intrupt the supply and continue to keep its speed .. in doing so .. i am able to cut back on inputted engery big time ...
much can be said for low friction design ...
ist!
IN DOING WHAT I JUST EXPLAINED .. i proved the equasion of horse power to be hocous pocous
: )
i can increase hp .. with out inputting more from source .. they got it all wrong ... lol
ha ha ha
it is based upon weight change the weight .. you change the output ..
: )
QuoteI still can't believe in fairy tales and this does nothing to convince me.
As Innovation station has wisely revealed to you, it is you who is in charge of the convincing.....
The mere act of popping into the thread simply to register the fact that you are unconvinced, says something.
Something important.
Perhaps even important enough to motivate you to convince yourself of even more important things...
'Fairy tales', if they're any good, are Designed to come true.
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
Luke 21:25-28
Jehwah cool!
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends...
Being a radical and an renegade in this life has taught me one thing and that is to see the pattern of change and your wisdom comes in the knowing that there is a stable place to go.
In these times we are blessed with the technology and awareness of what is going on around the planet in a moments notice. Why? Every eye shall see the revelated turmoil professed in Revelation. I don't care what your beliefs are. Revelation has spelled out the total, apocalyptic stupidity, an accumulation of eons of mistakes perpetrated by ignorance of a few basic laws which were designed to keep us as a genetic lineage safe. But NO! Every one can see and complain about the idiocy, no? Then you are aware and this you cannot deny and you are ripe for a change. That change is not what man says he can do because nobody can. Every knee shall bow. You, my friends shall see because we are the chosen generation who know whats wrong. Pure logic and no fantasy here. The world is busted up and everybody is pissed. No? Keep watching the movie and remember, when someone screams fire it is either on the screen or in the theater. Only those smart enough get to leave while those who are not smart enough think they are in the movie. This is the greatest show on Earth and we are not the only ones watching.
Watch the ants use the magnifying glass on themselves.
There behind the glass stands a real blade of grass. Be careful as you pass. Move along, move along. Come inside the shows about to start. Guaranteed to blow your mind apart. Rest assured you'll get your money's worth...
--Giantkiller. Hence, the name...