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Title: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on May 01, 2010, 05:46:58 PM


I just learned that a great human moved on to another plane on March 17, 2010.

Lee Crock, inventor of the ‘Energy Cleaner’ died of his 2nd heart attack according to his wife Bonnie…a very sweet lady, who described Lee as a Prince.

He sold his devices for profit…in order help him his very busy free wellness Energy Clinic in Ohio…which is now closed forever.

His unit was the only one on the planet than ran without having to be plugged in to anything…and now that is gone.

I am trying to track down the source of his special circuit, in hopes of getting his to open source it, now that Lee is no longer with us.

His invention greatly improved the health of many, including my own.

Like all threats to pharma medicine, he was harassed and raided mercilessly until the very end…but he would not let them run him out.

A badge of honor for a man of courage and conviction.

Regards…

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: gyulasun on May 01, 2010, 06:31:50 PM

Here are links maybe useful for others

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/therman.htm
http://www.keelynet.com/mexistim/nexcrock.htm

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: broli on May 01, 2010, 07:40:46 PM
I have never heard of this man. He seems to have done some good work, time to research, thanks for bringing him up and may he enjoy the afterlife.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: e2matrix on May 02, 2010, 01:29:08 PM
RIP Lee...  gotta wonder if the pharmacartel didn't get him.  I've had his info saved for over 6 years.  Always wanted to try this as it's super simple to build his device.  Benefits may be considerable I believe. 
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Ronwg on May 02, 2010, 07:05:03 PM
I have been using this device for two years with great results.
I sleep on the "energy mat" every night and wake up in the AM ready to go--have noticed a big difference in the way I feel during the day.
If anyone is interested, I will furnish a schematic with my design for the 15 Min. timer

Ron
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on May 02, 2010, 10:00:55 PM

I tried unhooking mine for a time judt to see the difference...never again.

All info is welcomed on any of my threads Ron, please post your design.

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: giantkiller on May 03, 2010, 04:19:24 PM
Having followed Rife, Dotto and having temporary use of a Quantumpulse I would be very interested in seeing what you've done.
Thanks in advance.
I have thyroid based sleep problems.

Quote from: Ronwg on May 02, 2010, 07:05:03 PM
I have been using this device for two years with great results.
I sleep on the "energy mat" every night and wake up in the AM ready to go--have noticed a big difference in the way I feel during the day.
If anyone is interested, I will furnish a schematic with my design for the 15 Min. timer

Ron
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Ronwg on May 03, 2010, 07:39:11 PM
Here you go---555 circuit, real simple, easy to build. I use a double sided foil faced mat that I get at Lowes in the insulation dept.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Ronwg on May 03, 2010, 09:32:02 PM
OK here is the schematic re-drawn in PDF format with the regulator circuit added.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: giantkiller on May 03, 2010, 11:00:44 PM
Thanks. A classic out of the textbook slow astable. Got these in inventory. This is a quick throw together. I will definately hook it up.
Quote from: Ronwg on May 03, 2010, 09:32:02 PM
OK here is the schematic re-drawn in PDF format with the regulator circuit added.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: broli on May 04, 2010, 06:04:07 AM
I have done some reading and decided to build the device.

What I found vague was the reason of the amount of batteries and the type. Is this so the battery can cause more charge to accumulate on the sheet? And would Li-ion batteries work as good?
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Ronwg on May 04, 2010, 06:26:39 PM
@ broli---Not sure about the amount of batteries used--I'm just following the info I got from Kellynet.
Everyone I tell about the device looks at me like I'm crazy--closed minded people sure do annoy me.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on May 04, 2010, 07:55:26 PM

Thanks for the circuit Ron, nice work.

I was kinda hoping it ran without an outside power source, like Lee's units.

Even though we lost Lee and his business is no more, we still have a source for his stand alone units.

Luckily I remembered the name of the guy Lee mentioned who did the switching circuit...anyway, I found him.

His name is Tom Berryman...his email address is twb8899@yahoo.com

He is selling off the stock he was stuck with due to Lee's sudden passing...and is asking something around $350.00...and I believe $200 if you buy 10 units.

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: broli on May 06, 2010, 12:52:38 PM
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on May 04, 2010, 07:55:26 PM
Thanks for the circuit Ron, nice work.

I was kinda hoping it ran without an outside power source, like Lee's units.

Even though we lost Lee and his business is no more, we still have a source for his stand alone units.

Luckily I remembered the name of the guy Lee mentioned who did the switching circuit...anyway, I found him.

His name is Tom Berryman...his email address is twb8899@yahoo.com

He is selling off the stock he was stuck with due to Lee's sudden passing...and is asking something around $350.00...and I believe $200 if you buy 10 units.

Regards...

That's a relative high price. Of course if it works it's invaluable but in this skeptic world people are used to buying "cheap" medication on long term basis which results in orders of magnitude more monetary value in comparison.

I believe he would be more successful if he sold it with a money back guarantee. This way people can run it for a month or two and either experience the life changing results or not. That is if he's confident of the former.

For the tinkerer you can find 10 D batteries for 20$ then 5 2xD battery holders for 10$ and a SPDT relay for 3.5$. And for the screen you can get away with using cheap tin foil roll under your mattress.

EDIT: Since no one mentioned this I should add it's best to use an impulse aka bistable aka latching relay. This relay needs a single pulse to switch. In this case the power consumption reduces drastically.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on May 06, 2010, 05:05:10 PM

All of Lee's profits went back ninto running hisd clinic.

Someone told me, they once suggested to Lee that he charge people a small fee of $50 dollars, to help cover expenses.

Lee's response..."I can't do that.  These people have been bled just about dry by the medical system".

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on May 31, 2010, 12:42:40 PM
Quote from: broli on May 04, 2010, 06:04:07 AM
I have done some reading and decided to build the device.

What I found vague was the reason of the amount of batteries and the type. Is this so the battery can cause more charge to accumulate on the sheet? And would Li-ion batteries work as good?
Hi broli

This thread seems to have gone quite, did you put one of these devices together?
I'm in the process of experimenting. Regards M
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on May 31, 2010, 03:55:39 PM

For anyone interested, Tom Berryhill (mistakenly called Berryman in an earlier post) sells the low draw switching circuits he made for Lee Crock @$150.00.

As of 2 weeks ago, he had a couple of demo Energy Cleaner units going for $200 dollars.

He can be reached via his email address   twb8899@yahoo.com

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Bob Smith on May 31, 2010, 07:00:57 PM
I did make a mat without the switiching device (couldn't find the schematic -thanks for posting it).  Used a 6' x 4' cut of aluminum screening and manually switched polarity every 15 minutes 2 or 3 times. Wasn't good for my marriage when I put it on the mattress - especially after the cut edges of screening kept getting caught on covers, pyjamas, skin... Hmm, maybe I'll put that downstairs.  The Lowes mat sounds good.

I think it was Jerry Decker who claimed he was using the device hooked to his car chassis (from the trunk) on long drives. He said he would feel refreshed after a drive (rather than drained), and his back didn't give him problems.

Maybe I'll try this again - thanks for the tip.
Bob
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: MrMag on June 01, 2010, 12:01:50 AM
When I made mine, I cheated on the timer circuit. I happened to have a delay on/off timer that I powered through a 24VAC adapter. I then ran the batteries through the contacts. Quick and simple. I folded over the edges of the screen and taped them. Put the screen on the mattress and covered it with a sheet. You couldn't even tell it was there. I left it on all the time.

I did notice a difference at first, but after a few months it didn't seem to do much. Maybe the batteries went dead? I guess I should have checked them but you never have a load connected so I thought they would last a long time. Maybe it's time to throw it back on and try it again.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on June 01, 2010, 03:40:54 PM
Hi Bob & Mr Mag
Well I finished my design based on a PIC micro controller which gives me precise timing intervals pulsing a biased coil change over relay. The circuit is powered from a 9 volt DC universal power supply.  "D" cell batteries  3 volt arrangement. I looked around for flexible mesh but decided on aluminium foil until I stumbled upon a foil backed foam camping mat on a roll. My wife suffers with arthritis so I placed this under the mattress. Twice she has woken up in the early hours with a strange tingling sensation through her body!! I don't know if anybody else has had a similar experience?  Interestingly while re checking my circuits etc I discovered the flylead clamped to what I thought was the bare foil of the mat  turned out to be a clear insulated film?? I have since lined the mat with ali foil and am re testing... she has not experienced any tingling as yet. So I'm not sure
if what she experienced was good or bad!
And... hey Bob, at least the tingling sensation was not caused by rough metal edges your comments made me laugh. Thanks for your replies Guys, Kind regards
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on September 30, 2010, 04:20:04 PM
Progress since last post... Still have this device in use, for me I seem to have more energy and less problems from back ache. My Wife's arthritic problems have marginaly improved. The tingling sensation's she earlier experienced was not related to this device. So some benefits, I feel have been gained from using this design.
I would be interested to here from others who have tried using this device and their own personal experiences or any other electronic healing type device.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: MrMag on September 30, 2010, 07:08:23 PM
Glad to hear it's working for you Crowclaw.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 07, 2010, 09:38:23 AM

I found another amazing battery device called 'Godzilla' here...

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

I have had excellent results with this device...very simple to make also.

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: MrMag on October 07, 2010, 11:03:52 AM
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 07, 2010, 09:38:23 AM
I found another amazing battery device called 'Godzilla' here...

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

I have had excellent results with this device...very simple to make also.

Regards...

Your better off using a pulsed unit then just connecting a battery to you body. Use a bugzapper or download Huda Clarks PDF. It describes how it works, what frequencies to use and has a simple schematic of how to build one. Or, just do like I do and use a frequency generator.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 07, 2010, 11:18:03 AM

Your comments reflect a lack of understanding research of the concept of the device.

To dismiss without first doing due dilligence, will serve only to discourage others from getting help for themselves.

It is better to let people make up their own minds.

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on October 07, 2010, 04:42:22 PM
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 07, 2010, 09:38:23 AM
I found another amazing battery device called 'Godzilla' here...

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

I have had excellent results with this device...very simple to make also.

Regards...

I'm interested in this device do you have any details of it that you can pass on please. it seems you have to be a member to access any info.Many thanks
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 07, 2010, 05:17:54 PM

You really have to read it yourself cc...there's just too much to report.

You just have to register to access the files...they will also keep you updated if you wish.

Its all free info.

Happy reading.

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: MrMag on October 08, 2010, 12:16:47 AM
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 07, 2010, 11:18:03 AM
Your comments reflect a lack of understanding research of the concept of the device.

To dismiss without first doing due dilligence, will serve only to discourage others from getting help for themselves.

It is better to let people make up their own minds.

Regards...

Not necessarily. I think that my comments show a very good understanding with multiple devices that are used for the same purpose. The unit you are recommending could cause electrolysis and I don't think that's what you want. All we need to do is put a small charge on the cells to keep the microbes from attaching to them. If the microbes cannot attach themselves to the cells they will die. Beck's and Clark's devices do this by using a frequency which is more or less a dual duty device. Not only does it charge the cells but when the unit is set for the proper frequency "supposedly" the microbes would explode due to the resonant frequency on the device.

To recommend a device without disclosing the possibility of injuring one self is very neglectful. I know you sent them to a site to read about it but some people might just look at the picture and think that they should try hooking themselves up to a DC battery.

I am not discouraging people to treat themselves. I am only trying to show them safer alternatives. If you really think I'm against this, your wrong. I presently drink colloidal silver, I use My frequency generator as a Huda Clark device, I've used the Lee Crock unit, and I am in the process of building a Lakhovski MWO. So I guess your preaching to the choir.

No hard feelings, I just hate to be told that I have a lack of understanding of the device when the person saying it doesn't even know me or know exactly what I do understand or believe.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 08, 2010, 07:53:51 AM
Is it just one wire to the mesh? Also.
Can it be hooked to the spring box metal frame?

Jesus
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 08, 2010, 08:31:55 AM

"No hard feelings, I just hate to be told that I have a lack of understanding of the device when the person saying it doesn't even know me or know exactly what I do understand or believe."


Well...if you had an understanding of the device as you say, then you would have read that the electrolysis issue is not a concern with the device,

That is all I have to say to you on this subject...as my time is valuable to me.


Jesus...the energy cleaner screen's field extends 10 inches on either side of the screen.

Your bed frame may be too far from your body...unless you have a very thin mattress.

Lee recommended hooking up to the springs in the mattress as an lesser alternative to the screen.

Regards...




Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 08, 2010, 09:04:57 AM
Thank you @capzero

That was the question. The springs.

But still, It is only one wire conected to the springs?
Once the wire is positive and then changes to negative, but just one wire?
Is that it?

Jesus
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: MrMag on October 08, 2010, 01:10:05 PM
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 08, 2010, 08:31:55 AM

Well...if you had an understanding of the device as you say, then you would have read that the electrolysis issue is not a concern with the device,

That is all I have to say to you on this subject...as my time is valuable to me.


I seem to be unable to load the file from the site named "Reversing DC current IMPORTANT, SAFETY TIP". Can you please report why that file says that it is an important safety tip? I am sure the device will benefit some people but they need to be aware of the possible problems it may cause. I may be wrong about the electrolysis, but without seeing what is in the file.........

Everyone's time is valuable. I just may have more of a concern for other peoples welfare. For you to just brush it off without explanation or proof that I am wrong tells me that you may be the one who does not understand.

If anyone does try using this device, be sure to reverse the pads every 5 or so minutes.

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: MrMag on October 08, 2010, 01:15:21 PM
Quote from: nievesoliveras on October 08, 2010, 09:04:57 AM
Thank you @capzero

That was the question. The springs.

But still, It is only one wire conected to the springs?
Once the wire is positive and then changes to negative, but just one wire?
Is that it?

Jesus

Yes, just one wire.

You should maybe check the continuity of your box spring. Check the resistance from side to side. They don't make box springs like they did back then. Most of the mattresses made these days use materials to help reduce the noise and that may insulate them from one another.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: MrMag on October 08, 2010, 01:25:15 PM
I just got into the file on the Godzilla device (attached). There, Capzero should be happy since I proved myself wrong and didn't waste his very valuable time  ;D
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on October 08, 2010, 01:28:50 PM
Quote from: nievesoliveras on October 08, 2010, 09:04:57 AM
Thank you @capzero

That was the question. The springs.

But still, It is only one wire conected to the springs?
Once the wire is positive and then changes to negative, but just one wire?
Is that it?

Jesus

Hi Jesus, yes that's it...one wire which is switched every 15 minutes between
3 volts + and 3 volts -  very simple and easy to build. I use aluminium foil secured to sheets of cardboard placed under a thin 'memory foam' mat.  I  have used mine for several months now. You can use a mechanical timer, my own design  uses a PIC micro controller, only so I can select different switching time intervals. My latest design has three switching times and a 3volt / 4.5volt battery selector. The idea is for experimental purposes. While I have realised some benefit from using this device, the effects tend to wear off after prolonged use. I'm interested to know the reason this happens.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: MrMag on October 08, 2010, 01:49:39 PM
Crowclaw.
I thought it was only me. I too noticed that the effects wore off. I used mine for about 6 months. The effects seemed to wear down gradually. I think I really noticed it after about 3-4 months of use. I never did check the batteries which may be why.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 08, 2010, 01:58:22 PM
Thank you @crowclaw

I had the idea of only using the 555 output connected to the mesh or box spring.
The 555 timer output pin is once negative and then positive by nature.

To test it use two leds on the 555 output. One connected to the negative and the other connected to the positive. But both connected to the 555 output pin.

They will light one when the output is positive and the other when is negative. Polarity is very important here. Also the LED resistors.

Jesus
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on October 08, 2010, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: nievesoliveras on October 08, 2010, 01:58:22 PM
Thank you @crowclaw

I had the idea of only using the 555 output connected to the mesh or box spring.
The 555 timer output pin is once negative and then positive by nature.

To test it use two leds on the 555 output. One connected to the negative and the other connected to the positive. But both connected to the 555 output pin.

They will light one when the output is positive and the other when is negative. Polarity is very important here. Also the LED resistors.

Jesus
@ Jesus
Yes give it a try, I read somewhere that the reason so many batteries where used was to provide an extremely low DC impedance path!  My first version uses 10 batteries "D" cells as original Lee Crock. I have another version using "AA" cells in a 4.5v pack. Not as yet put this into use. Anybody have any ideas as to why the benefits diminish in time?... does the body adjust to the switching times over a period of use! _ this was the reason my latest design has three switching periods. Not yet completed for trial.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 08, 2010, 04:50:31 PM

" If anyone does try using this device, be sure to reverse the pads every 5 or so minutes. "


Mag...you would have received that same directive from me, had you simply asked, instead of making a conclusive comment regarding blood electrolysis.

Just ask and it shall be given.


Lee made a point that rubber blocks the pos/neg field of the EC...the mem foam may be inhibiting the field.

Is there a way to test the mem foam in this regard ?

I find that my body starts to return to its stiff muscle/achy joints condition if I am away from it for a while.

I've been using it since 2004.

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on October 09, 2010, 01:41:10 AM
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 08, 2010, 04:50:31 PM
" If anyone does try using this device, be sure to reverse the pads every 5 or so minutes. "




Lee made a point that rubber blocks the pos/neg field of the EC...the mem foam may be inhibiting the field.

Is there a way to test the mem foam in this regard ?

I find that my body starts to return to its stiff muscle/achy joints condition if I am away from it for a while.

I've been using it since 2004.

Regards...

@Cap-Z-ro

Not clear on reversing pads!... did you mean polarity, or the pads? only use one pad over the mattress. Good point about the foam, I must check that, as it's over the top of the foil screen!
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 09, 2010, 07:07:25 AM

" If anyone does try using this device, be sure to reverse the pads every 5 or so minutes. "


The above quote was from 'mr.mag'

However, by switching the pads you are in effect switching the polarity of the 'godzilla' device.


Keep us posted on your results with your test on whether the mem foam inhibits or blocks the field in any way.

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 09, 2010, 09:14:05 AM
If you are going to sleep over it, it will be very difficult to wake up every five minutes to do the task of flipping the pad.

I can be wrong though.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 09, 2010, 02:02:44 PM

@jesus

You seem to be confusing Lee Crock's 'Energy Cleaner' with the 'Godzilla Device'.

Go back in the thread and you will see where the confusion arose.

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on October 09, 2010, 02:55:52 PM
Yes, I think we are getting confused... all my postings are regarding my own design experiments based on the Lee Crock device. However there are similarities using a switched polarity low voltage DC battery... Godzilla, Hulda Clark etc, I'm also experimenting with my own designs with these. The Lee Crock device does not make body contact, which is the main topic here of course. Perhaps a new thread for electronic healing devices in general may be a good idea! If this Forum is  best placed to start a new topic. M
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on October 09, 2010, 06:06:47 PM


" The Lee Crock device does not make body contact, which is the main topic here of course. "



There is however, bodily contact when you drop the screen in the bathtub.

Lee didn't advise direct skin contact with the alum screen.

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 09, 2010, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: MrMag on October 08, 2010, 01:15:21 PM
Yes, just one wire.

You should maybe check the continuity of your box spring. Check the resistance from side to side. They don't make box springs like they did back then. Most of the mattresses made these days use materials to help reduce the noise and that may insulate them from one another.

Thank you @mrmag

I did not see this one.

Jesus
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: broli on January 13, 2011, 05:12:37 AM
Quote from: broli on May 04, 2010, 06:04:07 AM
I have done some reading and decided to build the device.

What I found vague was the reason of the amount of batteries and the type. Is this so the battery can cause more charge to accumulate on the sheet? And would Li-ion batteries work as good?

A PM reminded me to post a follow up on this.

I have built the device around the previous October. I built this mainly for my mother who has all kinds of aches. The device specs are:

-12x 1.5V D-cell. Made 4 groups, each with 3 batteries hooked in series. So the operating voltage is around 4.5V
-Arduino to pulse a latching DPDT relay every 15min.
-3 layers of standard kitchen aluminum foil under mattress.
-Mattress is quite thick, estimated at 25cm in relaxed state (I'll update this with more specific numbers)

First month or so it had been used every night. Now it's just a few times a week.

The verdict is that the pain and aches haven't really gone away which is disappointing. However I still have the benefit of the doubt. As mentioned the mattress is quite thick. So I was planning on either getting some fine copper mesh or plastic coated aluminum foil for flexibility and toughness. and putting it under the bed sheet as close to the body as possible.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on January 13, 2011, 12:09:08 PM
@Broli,
I have built several versions all based on the "Lee Crock" design. The 4.5volt version may prove to strong! also 25cm is quite a distance so could make a difference. I find a screen under the sheet works best but can get creased up very easily. Presently we have one of those foam memory pads over the screen which is about 2" thick, it's difficult to say how much difference it makes to the field if any!! My wife and I are both in our sixties and to notice a benefit takes time so experimenting with various versions is not that easy to draw conclusions as to which version works best. I have two switching times on all mine now ..
15 mins and 3 mins.   These are my findings to date using this device... certainly more energy and less general aches and pains. I have had no back pains since using it. It does keep you regular!! My Wife's heavy legs syndrome and arthritic problems seem to have generally gone away. The secret is to use it for a period until you feel benefit and then disconnect it for a while. It works for me.  I generally feel more youthful especially when rising first thing. I'm still experimenting, note: you may find yourself having bad dreams!!! otherwise no side effects as I can see. Kind Regards
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on January 13, 2011, 03:17:55 PM
I'm not so sure why so many cells? unless it's related to the impedance!  I did try "AA" batteries instead on one design, but didn't leave it on test for long enough.
The other thought was... Lee Crock's original design appeared to use copper battery connector plates from one of his photographs showing the opened wooden lid. The copper plates would be of sufficient area to contact all the cells paralleled plus ends, and likewise of similar dimensions for the negatives. Do the plates therefore have any relevance on how it works? I'll leave this open for further thoughts. I think results will vary between individuals and younger experimenters may notice results much sooner. Experiences are very common in comparing my own trials to those who have either built their own or purchased one... it would seem. The point being, it doesn't cost much to build in it's simplest form.  The "D" cells are very cheap, and I did build a replica using a battery powered clock module using a change over micro switch and a four segment cam disc. For all other versions  I use pic micro controllers to give me both versatility and precise time periods. My present design outputs directly from one of the controller ports, this one is yet to be trialed.
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on January 13, 2011, 06:21:09 PM
I too received a PM about the 'energy cleaner' Broli, from a new poster...likely the same one.

Lee made it a point to say that no more that 3 sets of 3 batteries be used...he said it would be too much for the body.

I tried the plastic foil...the plastic was tough, but the foil cracked and failed to conduct properly.

I just pull an alum screen over me at night...according to Lee, the field extended 10 inches on either side of the screen.

If anyone wants to acquire Lee's automatic switching circuit, just send me a PM.

I will never be without the energy cleaner.

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on July 06, 2013, 12:39:48 AM
I emailed Tom Berryhill for this info:

" You should have no trouble using foam in a pad for the Energy Cleaner. Many of the new mattresses use a foam construction and the foam doesn't seem to attenuate the signal at all. Just keep in mind that the closer you are to the metallic electrode the better it will work. "

Regards...
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on July 06, 2013, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on July 06, 2013, 12:39:48 AM
I emailed Tom Berryhill for this info:

" You should have no trouble using foam in a pad for the Energy Cleaner. Many of the new mattresses use a foam construction and the foam doesn't seem to attenuate the signal at all. Just keep in mind that the closer you are to the metallic electrode the better it will work. "

Regards...
Most kind of you to take the trouble, I'm surprised more experimenters have never followed this thread considering how simple it is to put together at very little cost. Thanks again
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Bob Smith on August 14, 2013, 08:58:13 AM
Does anyone have a simple reverse polarity switch schematic for this that only involves a 555 timer switch without the relay?
Thanks,
Bob
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: totoalas on August 14, 2013, 12:24:46 PM
Nice healing device
Dont know if replacing the mat with ferrite ring magnets will have the same effect
I usually put magnets inside the pillows and placed it on the joints and terrible headache which easily deminish especially if the magnet is cool to touch.....
Using the rotor magnets in distilled water improves the taste and lessen my craving for COKE   lol


Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on August 14, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: Bob Smith on August 14, 2013, 08:58:13 AM
Does anyone have a simple reverse polarity switch schematic for this that only involves a 555 timer switch without the relay?
Thanks,
Bob
Hi Bob, I'm sure I've seen a 555 circuit some where... I'll check it out. I use a micro and relay in my units with switchable time periods. What had you got in mind for switching without a relay and what time period? Regards Merv
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on August 14, 2013, 02:25:44 PM
When there is a straight switch from pos over to neg there is an uncomfortable spike.

Ideally you would want the switching to fade from one polarity over to the other, eliminating the spike.

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on August 14, 2013, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: totoalas on August 14, 2013, 12:24:46 PM
Nice healing device
Dont know if replacing the mat with ferrite ring magnets will have the same effect
I usually put magnets inside the pillows and placed it on the joints and terrible headache which easily deminish especially if the magnet is cool to touch.....
Using the rotor magnets in distilled water improves the taste and lessen my craving for COKE   lol

What problems do you experience with your joints... arthritic? would like to know more on how you use the magnets. Is the healing principles related to general magnetic therapy as in magnetic wrist straps? My Wife has arthritus in her joints quite badly, I've heard from one person who gained benefit from using the switched polarised mats based on Lee Crocks device. Regards
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on August 14, 2013, 03:07:07 PM
@ Bob Smith, have a look at this previous posting:

« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2010, 01:53:51 PM »

This circuit uses a 555 timer and 12 volt supply with relay output, so you will have to alter the circuit for a 3 volt switched output without the relay. See what you think... hope this helps. Kind Regards.

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on August 14, 2013, 03:19:31 PM

Please ignore
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on August 14, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on August 14, 2013, 02:25:44 PM
When there is a straight switch from pos over to neg there is an uncomfortable spike.

Ideally you would want the switching to fade from one polarity over to the other, eliminating the spike.

Regards...
Ineresting comment, the relay contacts are not switching any measurable electrical current as such other than presenting a persieved + and - field at the mat so the theory states!
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: totoalas on August 14, 2013, 05:00:03 PM
Quote from: crowclaw on August 14, 2013, 02:27:48 PM
What problems do you experience with your joints... arthritic? would like to know more on how you use the magnets. Is the healing principles related to general magnetic therapy as in magnetic wrist straps? My Wife has arthritus in her joints quite badly, I've heard from one person who gained benefit from using the switched polarised mats based on Lee Crocks device. Regards
Yes arthritic due to age 50+ /one neo mag underneath a cheap bottom steel watch placed on the wrist pulse beat.... 5 chewable ASHITABA leaves every day for 2 months removed the walking stick from my 80 yr old aunt with same joint problem... hope this help... Pure coconut water cures all HB UTI arthritis   .... it all point to the body ph level    hope this help  :)
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on August 14, 2013, 06:25:22 PM
Quote from: crowclaw on August 14, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
Ineresting comment, the relay contacts are not switching any measurable electrical current as such other than presenting a persieved + and - field at the mat so the theory states!



Ignore my post also crow...I was schlightly distracted at the time, and was thinking about the 'Godzilla' device.

Regards...

Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on August 15, 2013, 02:16:01 PM
Quote from: totoalas on August 14, 2013, 05:00:03 PM
Yes arthritic due to age 50+ /one neo mag underneath a cheap bottom steel watch placed on the wrist pulse beat.... 5 chewable ASHITABA leaves every day for 2 months removed the walking stick from my 80 yr old aunt with same joint problem... hope this help... Pure coconut water cures all HB UTI arthritis   .... it all point to the body ph level    hope this help  :)
Many thanks for your reply, I have some neo magnets so will take on board your suggestions and get my Wife to give it a try. Thanks again    Kind Regards
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Bob Smith on August 15, 2013, 09:24:33 PM
@ Crowclaw,
Merv, thanks for your helpful comments. I did have a look at #28 as you suggested. I'll try and work on something when I get some time (long honey-do list this summer).

Off topic:  BTW, it may or may not be your wife's issue, but arthritis is a primary symptom of gluten sensitivity/intolerance. I had a lot of joint soreness go away after I got off gluten a few years back (and cow dairy - they seem to go together [goat cheese and old cow's cheese okay]).  My wife's fibromyalgia cleared up once off gluen and dairy as well (both diagnosed at same time with gluten issues). My friend's wife had severe osteoarthritis, heavy meds, down to one aspirin per day after going off gluten.  Wheat today is hybridized and bred for unnaturally high gluten content, but it's a protein that humans can't digest. In many people, it provokes an auto-immune response.  People 60 years ago didn't have these kinds of issues with wheat strains being planted.
Take care,
Bob
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: crowclaw on August 16, 2013, 03:57:55 AM
@Bob Smith

Hi Bob, keep in touch when you have chance to put something together... and I'm here if you need help. Thanks also for you suggestions.
Kind Regards Crow
Title: Re: R.I.P. Lee Crock
Post by: Linda on January 14, 2018, 02:42:15 AM
 I am new to this post, would very much like to know if anyone know how to construct an energy cleaner like the one Lee Crock had? understand the batteries, would like to know the wiring and what sort of wiring e.g. copper? and the timer. Any ideas answers greatly appreciated.