Lets start by saying you have an overunity device, verified, working replicatable....
Situational Facts:
-The world is quickly approaching an energy crises.
-The use of fossil fuels are harmfull to the environment and will affect the quality of living conditions in future generations.
-Corporations are greedy and an overunity solution sold to a corporation will be used for profit at the expense of the average person
Personal facts:
-Times are hard, money is crucial to the well being of ones family
-The creator of an usable overunity device deserves something for his efforts
Other mitigating factors:
-The energy crises is now... not 2 years from now when all patents will be approved and in place
-Any overunity device will have to be manufactured - money will be made... why shouldn't the designer obtain something for his work?
-Are the conspiracies correct? Will men in black suits visit? Am I putting my life and family in danger?
What would you do? What are your thoughts?
Until the knowledge is common place you'll have to worry.
Once it is, what would it benefit anyone to come after you or your family?
Only by keeping it a secret can the device be stopped by threatening or killing you.
Once it is released into the public domain, if you are known as its originator, the money will come because people will want bigger/better versions of the device and who better to do that than you?
You are correct.... it would take care of the men in black suit problem...
Your other point... not true, the inventor might get recognition, but just like any other new technology the inventor without protection gets screwed... why do you think patents exist to begin with? The origin of the patent system was to protect the idea so the inventor who may not have financial resources could obtain the financial backing to begin producing his idea.... In other words to keep the big corporations from taking someones idea, producing it... then pocketing the money without paying the inventor.
I'd make as many units as I could, and prepared short, to the point instructions how to build, with explanation of the powers at work.
I would distribute the units and the documents, all at the same moment. Units delivered to universities, science magazines, trusted OU researchers, etc. Documents would be faxed/emailed to any politician's office, somewhat independent newpaper, global universities, science bloggers, etc.
My name would be on it, but I would be no-where to be found. First and exclusive interview I grant would be the first million I make. Then book/movie rights, etc.
Or, I would share my knowledge on this forum, and at the same time still keep producing my own replications to hand out at Tesla Tech or something.
Keeping it to yourself and going to the patent office or begging for subsedies at a government institution....the least healthy and efficient methode ever, yet often, attempted to get OU out there.
I would definitely release the information to as many people as possible. The instructions need to be complete, concise, with schematics, drawings and pictures. It has to be laid out to minimize any questions so that many people will be able to replicate it with little or no problem.
As far as money goes, I think there would be a lot of companies that would like to hire you as a consultant. Do you realize how many companies would pop up to build these units for market. Then there would be the talk shows, speaking engagements. They would all pay well for you to show up. I think getting money for your device would be the least of your problems. Your calender would be full.
I think the hardest thing to do would be to keep it quiet until the device is fully working and all of the replication instructions are complete. If this is leaked or spread out prior to the completion of the unit it may be possible that you will be at risk. It would be really hard to keep it quiet. I am sure I would need help from some of the more experienced people here or elsewhere for some part of it.
Patents are useless. If it is a real working device, the government will just come and confiscate it telling you it is national security or something and you will be warned not to speak of it. If by chance, it does make it through the patent process, some company will buy the patent from you for a few million dollars out of their petty cash and then shelf the unit. Maybe good for you but how about the millions of people who really need it? I don't know if I could sleep with that.
MrMag got it so right!
The media, once the cat is out of the bag, will have no choice but to love you. The idea of being under danger of MIB, the drama, the emotion, the horism, you'll need to clone yourself to match all the appearance requests. Before you know it, the media will be coving the media circus surrounding you, as the public wants ll you have to offer them. You better not have personal indescretions you have not told your significant other and lawyer, though... :-)
MSM suck, but they can be used in your advantage, for safety, and income.
ohhh media attention, the spot light.... :P Personally, I would hate that...
and if your a guy who doesn't want to appear on talk shows? Who has no special knowledge, just had a moment of brilliance? Is there a GNU public license to build so the general public can build their own if they choose... but corporations that choose to manufacture have to pay royalties? Maybe the inventor can make replicas for classrooms and sell them... oh but wait someone in some 3rd world can make them for 1/10 the cost and undersell you in less than a month.
Anyone who believes that free energy/overunity will not be commercialized and exploited in some way is not thinking realistically, yes those with special skills will be able to build their own... but what about the rest of us? What if I were to stumble upon the perfect coil configuration for a pulse generator... I cant build a unit that would be practical to use... that would last more than month or two. I wouldn't be able to improve it.. I would not be able to provide useful consultation... All I would be able to say is I was looking at a tree limb and the swirls in the bark struck a vibe and I reproduced it.... (example not real).
Quote from: Teutates on May 15, 2010, 05:17:25 PM
You are correct.... it would take care of the men in black suit problem...
That's always been my assumption, it would take a real device presentation whose release was open sourced to put it to the test.
Quote from: Teutates on May 15, 2010, 05:17:25 PM
Your other point... not true, the inventor might get recognition, but just like any other new technology the inventor without protection gets screwed... why do you think patents exist to begin with? The origin of the patent system was to protect the idea so the inventor who may not have financial resources could obtain the financial backing to begin producing his idea.... In other words to keep the big corporations from taking someones idea, producing it... then pocketing the money without paying the inventor.
Unless you have REALLY deep pockets, you will have to encounter "big" money in some way to build manufacturing for the device. If you don't sell it to a corporation, you'll probably have to go to a bank to secure funds for building and so corps talk to banks and you get denied loans you would need.
If you patent it and sell it to a big corp the other way they can bury the idea is to never produce the device, but to legally bar you or anyone else from making it.
Patents did have their day of protecting the inventors intellectual property but that protection now seems to be protection for big money.
If you have a device that you would like to present to the world, please do so in any way you deem fit, but please remember that most good ideas get squashed in one way or another when the quest for money is the primary goal.
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The GNU public license is free. That freedom extends to selling the idea/device as long as the "source code" (or design) is in some way available to the general public upon request, but I don't believe there is a stipulation of how it is to be available to the general public.
Having to go to corp. headquarters after a lengthy series of requests and forms to finally be permitted to view and copy the device plans (and this assumes that there won't be a lengthy legal battle to force the corp. to honor the terms of the license) is yet another way to keep the device proprietary.
If you're looking for the license design you cite above, I suggest you look into GNU2, BSD, etc. licensing as I know that they do offer the inventor some legal recourse for control, but in that vein you might want to look into the legal gymnastics Microsoft used when writing the DOS computer operating system for IBM that sold IBM the OS to use, but still let microsoft develop it independently and founded the latest super-corp. dynasty.
But also remember that Microsoft is famous for killing other brilliant ideas by either buying them, or undercutting the competition by putting out a competing project "for free" (Netscaping the competition is what it's known as).
Quote from: Teutates on May 16, 2010, 11:06:59 AM
ohhh media attention, the spot light.... :P Personally, I would hate that...
and if your a guy who doesn't want to appear on talk shows? Who has no special knowledge, just had a moment of brilliance? Is there a GNU public license to build so the general public can build their own if they choose... but corporations that choose to manufacture have to pay royalties? Maybe the inventor can make replicas for classrooms and sell them... oh but wait someone in some 3rd world can make them for 1/10 the cost and undersell you in less than a month.
Anyone who believes that free energy/overunity will not be commercialized and exploited in some way is not thinking realistically, yes those with special skills will be able to build their own... but what about the rest of us? What if I were to stumble upon the perfect coil configuration for a pulse generator... I cant build a unit that would be practical to use... that would last more than month or two. I wouldn't be able to improve it.. I would not be able to provide useful consultation... All I would be able to say is I was looking at a tree limb and the swirls in the bark struck a vibe and I reproduced it.... (example not real).
Hahaha, exactly! I can't even talk to a group of 30 people without wearing my pull-ups :). I'm more of a practical person. I always hated theory. If I ever discovered something, the way I would describe the theory behind it is," just put these parts like this and it will work". I'm sure I'd come off as a real idiot. I think it would be best for me to play the dumb/mute roll and hire some salesman/PR guy to do the talking for me.
I agree that there would be swarms of companies around to suck up your technology. They would probably pay you just to endorse their unit. We will need some companies to build them anyways since what you said about "not everyone can build one" is true. The more companies that start-up the cheaper the unit will be.
It would be nice to make enough money to retire comfortably though. I'm not talking millions upon millions. Just enough so that your worries will be minimized. I think getting a device out there for everyone to use if they can make it or have to buy it would be good enough for me. I think that I would feel that my purpose in life is complete.
I guess one of the goals would be a smooth transition... One scenario I've heard of would be to first keep it within (open) "communities" â€" people who can deal with the possibility that such things might actually work, and where one doesn't have to fight for acceptance. They would grow as more people hear of them, and others who are not ready yet wouldn't feel threatened if no-one has the urge to involve the media. Within these communities, it could work on some kind of an exchange base instead of using money directly so not to directly threaten the ones who currently depend on making money using conventional fuels. Communication between communities would be a given considering that we have the Internet and fora like this one. After enough people join, a point would be reached where these things would suddenly become commonly accepted...
Quote from: MrMag on May 16, 2010, 11:53:43 AM
It would be nice to make enough money to retire comfortably though. I'm not talking millions upon millions. Just enough so that your worries will be minimized. I think getting a device out there for everyone to use if they can make it or have to buy it would be good enough for me. I think that I would feel that my purpose in life is complete.
Exactly... enought to live comfortably even if its only for the next 20 years... and to continue experimenting.... and pay the damn taxes.
QuoteExactly... enought to live comfortably even if its only for the next 20 years... and to continue experimenting.... and pay the damn taxes.
An abject portrait of ignominious compromise if ever there was one.
TS
Now this is more like it.
In my view, to withhold technology which would free humanity and end human suffering would be a crime in itself.
Regards...
hmmm..... so would this still be considered criminal?
http://www.tapr.org/TAPR_Noncommercial_Hardware_License_v1.0.pdf
Due to its restrictively exclusive restrictions, I'd have to say its morally wrong to use this application on an energy freeing venture.
Regards...
If you have free energy, you don't need money.
interesting.... its morally wrong to say you can build it and use it without paying anyone... but you cannot sell it.... you can build it (upto 12 units a year) for others and charge them only for materials... use the original design or improve it and the same rules apply.... but its not morally wrong for you to build it, sell it.. and the original designer gets nothing... interesting..... if I might quote someone from above...
An abject portrait of ignominious compromise if ever there was one.
I agree it would be wrong for anyone to do that.
But I never did say I would do such a thing though.
Regards...