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Title: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: Mark69 on May 26, 2010, 12:47:52 PM
Has anyone have a working cure for arthritis?  I would like to hear everyone's experiences and such.

Thanks!
Mark
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on May 26, 2010, 02:24:28 PM
I used to use glucosimine Sulfate and shark cartlidge. It seemed to help. Now, I have a lot of pain and the Doc has me on Oxy's. What I have started taking about 3 weeks ago is MSM. It works great with me. I've cut down the amount of oxy's that I need. I would definitely try the MSM. It natural and no side effects.

Cure? Don't think there is
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: giantkiller on May 26, 2010, 03:20:50 PM
Google:Lee crock
http://keelynet.com/biology/crock.htm
http://www.keelynet.com/mexistim/nexcrock.htm
Just look at the circuit.
Follow through to Rife and Dotto and be amazed.

If you think it is a Crock -o- stuff then just continue listening to the FDA sponsered drug afflitiates and die a horrible death.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: lumen on May 26, 2010, 03:42:03 PM
Yes!
I have osteoarthritis and have terrible pain every day and it's getting worse!
I also know what actually CURES it also. I took it for one year and all the pain was gone along with lower cholesterol and increased muscle mass and better vision and virtually any age related failing.

It's called HGH or human growth hormone. After six months of taking HGH it seems all those problems are gone and you can actually get on leading a productive life.

Unfortunately, HGH has been moved into the class of steroids,(even though it is NOT) and now is the only drug on the market that is expressly unlawful to be prescribed even by a physician.

This hormone has had several medical studies done on it that prove it's many benefits and all the listed side effects are only supposed effects because they don't show up in any of the medical studies.

We even give this to children, and there are NO side effects! But you cannot have it because you will not be disabled and require the expensive drugs that keep everything running.

No, No , I'm not bitter! damit


Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: Mark69 on May 26, 2010, 04:46:27 PM
Thanks everyone, yeah if you can't get HGH then it that won't help :(

GiantKiller, no I don't listen to those idiots at the FDA and the drug companies!  All they want is your money and get you hooked on "prescription" drugs.  Plus their drugs cause more side effects that you will need more drugs to counteract.  Ill check out the Rife machine too.  Have you built this Lee Crock thing yourself?  I am a beginner at electronics and would need help to build.  Can you simplify the circuit info, even make a pdf w/ step by step instructions, possible make a parts list so I can take to Radio Shack to get the components?  I would greatly appreciate it!!!

MrMag- what is MSM?


Mark
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: z.monkey on May 26, 2010, 05:19:07 PM
A lot of Arthritis symptoms are caused by Uric Acid Crystals that build up on your joints.  Cherries contain a compound that will neutralize the Uric acid Crystals and bring major relief quickly.  If the cause is joint wear then you can help it by using joint supplements like Glucosamine Sulfate, MSM, Shark Cartilage and others that are a mixture of these.  But the most important substance is water.  If your cartilage is dehydrated then its gonna hurt no matter what.  I have a problem with the disks in my lower back, and when they dehydrate they really hurt.  So I do stretches after drinking a pint of Vitalized Water, and it usually helps. Micro water, or Vitalized water is excellent for hydrating those krunchy joints...
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: giantkiller on May 26, 2010, 06:05:38 PM
The parts list is there from radio shack.

Quote from: Mark69 on May 26, 2010, 04:46:27 PM
Thanks everyone, yeah if you can't get HGH then it that won't help :(

GiantKiller, no I don't listen to those idiots at the FDA and the drug companies!  All they want is your money and get you hooked on "prescription" drugs.  Plus their drugs cause more side effects that you will need more drugs to counteract.  Ill check out the Rife machine too.  Have you built this Lee Crock thing yourself?  I am a beginner at electronics and would need help to build.  Can you simplify the circuit info, even make a pdf w/ step by step instructions, possible make a parts list so I can take to Radio Shack to get the components?  I would greatly appreciate it!!!

MrMag- what is MSM?


Mark
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: Ronwg on May 26, 2010, 08:04:14 PM
@ MARK69--see attached for PDF schematic for building the mexistim equivalent/Lee Crock unit.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: Mk1 on May 26, 2010, 08:14:48 PM
I would try Potato Juice ..

Its not only for batteries ..

Good luck !
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: chrisC on May 26, 2010, 08:25:46 PM
Quote from: Mark69 on May 26, 2010, 12:47:52 PM
Has anyone have a working ?  I would like to hear everyone's experiences and such.

Thanks!
Mark

@Mark

Not sure if my personal experience has any bearings on your problem. I know for (100%) sure that if my nasal passage is blocked and I can't breathe properly when I'm asleep, my joints will start to hurt in the mornings and sometimes, the ankles will swell! It hurts like ***.

When I get enough oxygen during sleep, the pain will start diminishing and eventually be gone. It's that simple. Try getting some medication to unblock your nose and you might thank me for this simple solution!

cheers
chrisC
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: e2matrix on May 26, 2010, 09:24:38 PM
The other two MM's and an S can help also.  MMS   just search MMS + Jim Humble
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: X00013 on May 26, 2010, 11:02:30 PM
Consume only distilled water, and eat 100mg of natural potassium per your weight  x 10.  If you weigh 200 pounds u need 2000mg of potasium , eat two big potatoes a day with plain pasta and tomatoes, no dairy, take coral calcium.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: X00013 on May 26, 2010, 11:04:23 PM
fyi glucosimine floats your joints.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: Paul-R on May 27, 2010, 07:33:57 AM
John Mills, the famous actor, was racked with arthritis for years, read a book,
followed it and was massively improved. He even wrote a preface for the next
edition.

The book suggests that, contrary to medical opinion, arthritis is about poor
elimination. If you keep foods that do not get on apart, things improve fairly
quickly. Secondhand copies available very cheaply by post from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Food-Combining-Health-Doris-Grant/dp/0722525060
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: Tenbatsu on May 27, 2010, 08:15:06 AM
http://www.lef.org/protocols/immune_connective_joint/rheumatoid_arthritis_01.htm

Please read through this life extension article, it is thorough and covers several natural treatments for rheumatoid arthritis.  The only thing they left out is hylaluronic acid, in my opinion.

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: wings on May 27, 2010, 12:14:34 PM
related to free energy:

SCENAR
cell repair and pain management through stimulation of the neuropeptides.

" my comment: I.E. reset the information to the cell and by coherence from the undamaged you recover the right information and you have healing"

http://www.energetic-medicine.net/scenar.html
http://scenarnewzealand.org/?page_id=5

see the device signal here:
http://www.scenartechnology.com/scenar1nt_02_1.html


Bearden comment here:
http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/071509.htm

"About a year and a half ago, the Soviets finally released a Scenar-Cosmodic  unit (a follow-on to the original Scenar) to accomplish healing in addition to the standard pain relief. The new  Scenar-Cosmodic also uses  Dirac  Sea tickling to alter the vacuum energy in which a body exists and is an ongoing set of precursor interactions therein. But in addition to containing the original Scenar limited-tickling system to alleviate pain, this new Scenar Cosmodic has a second unit inside it which has been specifically designed to produce "much-less-limited" Dirac tickling, so that it also produces  significant healing.  This new healing unit is now being rather openly used by Russian Doctors to treat Russian civilian patients and accomplish tremendous healing results for an extensive variety of diseases. "

Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: giantkiller on May 27, 2010, 01:28:22 PM
Believe it!

Read Dr. Dotto information. He explains why hylaluronic acidis not the cure but an environmental addition. He builds his ring from the known aspects of the valley in Japan where this comes from originally.
We take in chemicals to neurologically address missing chemicals or missing molecules or missing types of electrostatic communication in the dendrites.

The relay snapping in the Lee Crock ckt is equivilant to a microspark gap found in a stun gun. This protocol is broad spectrum and will address any resonant needs of the cell structure. Cheap does the trick. One snap of the spark gap can address a multitude of needs in the body. The low power level gets through the whole body because the nervous system handles this level and protocol naturally.
Don't take drugs, chemicals, or operations. And by all means do not ingest corn syrup or sugar. This speed eats the body and causes undo stress at the cellular level. You can't ring the bell if someone is throwing stones at it. THe noise just doesnt make sense.

I sing the body electric.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on May 27, 2010, 01:57:30 PM
Quote from: Mark69 on May 26, 2010, 12:47:52 PM
Has anyone have a working cure for arthritis?  I would like to hear everyone's experiences and such.
Thanks!
Mark
http://www.pain-relief-info.com/print_coil_instructions.pdf

I don't try and experiment with high voltage, since I live and a Salvation Army domicile and also there are serious risks in making a mistake with that kind of power.

However, a MMO should do something positive against arthritis, for the most part.  Careful, though!!  Many thousand of volts are nothing to take lightly.

--Lee
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on May 28, 2010, 02:01:34 AM
Quote from: giantkiller on May 27, 2010, 01:28:22 PM
Believe it!

Read Dr. Dotto information. He explains why hylaluronic acidis not the cure but an environmental addition. He builds his ring from the known aspects of the valley in Japan where this comes from originally.
We take in chemicals to neurologically address missing chemicals or missing molecules or missing types of electrostatic communication in the dendrites.

The relay snapping in the Lee Crock ckt is equivilant to a microspark gap found in a stun gun. This protocol is broad spectrum and will address any resonant needs of the cell structure. Cheap does the trick. One snap of the spark gap can address a multitude of needs in the body. The low power level gets through the whole body because the nervous system handles this level and protocol naturally.
Don't take drugs, chemicals, or operations. And by all means do not ingest corn syrup or sugar. This speed eats the body and causes undo stress at the cellular level. You can't ring the bell if someone is throwing stones at it. THe noise just doesnt make sense.

I sing the body electric.

Lee Crocks device is nothing at all like a stun gun or spark gap. The relay is simply switching the device from the positive to negative terminals of the batteries to the screen that your lying on. I used one for about a year. I noticed a difference the first month or so but after that nothing really.

If you want a unit that does what your talking about look up George Lakhovsky. His units were used in hospitals until he was "accidentally" hit by a car while crossing the street. Shortly after that, his machines were removed from the hospitals.
What he said his unit did was not kill the disease but buy resonating your cells, the unit would rejuvenate your good cells so that they could fight the disease. There are many pictures online showing what this unit can do. I should really start a thread for it.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: Mark69 on May 28, 2010, 08:36:01 AM
There is a lot of info here!  It is tough to figure out where to start first.  Guess I will start with coral calcium, then to lee crock or the Lavosky stuff.

MrMag, if you start a new thread, let me know. 

Mark
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on May 28, 2010, 09:19:14 AM
Quote from: Mark69 on May 28, 2010, 08:36:01 AM
There is a lot of info here!  It is tough to figure out where to start first.  Guess I will start with coral calcium, then to lee crock or the Lavosky stuff.

MrMag, if you start a new thread, let me know. 

Mark

Ok I will let u know. Just try the MSM. It's cheap and natural. You got nothing to loose. I know these kinds of natural medicines don't work for everyone but what the hell, you never know. :)
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: mflynn44 on May 28, 2010, 09:21:36 AM
MMS is said to cure rheumatoid arthritis and lyme arthritis but doesn't help with ordinary arthritus.

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UL7_S8BfduJzr4zj6js6XIYvcqXPWrcpeatQAZSy8mB6ZNlThNu65SpYmdFt6UV6PY1_vfh9H50wMZNvnigN4bGjZIZrPlo/MMS_Part_2.pdf




Quote from: Mark69 on May 26, 2010, 12:47:52 PM
Has anyone have a working A?  I would like to hear everyone's experiences and such.

Thanks!
Mark
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: giantkiller on May 28, 2010, 02:06:53 PM
The process entails polarization of electron parameters before conduction. The shockwave is what does the magic not the electrocution.

Quote from: MrMag on May 28, 2010, 02:01:34 AM
Lee Crocks device is nothing at all like a stun gun or spark gap. The relay is simply switching the device from the positive to negative terminals of the batteries to the screen that your lying on. I used one for about a year. I noticed a difference the first month or so but after that nothing really.

If you want a unit that does what your talking about look up George Lakhovsky. His units were used in hospitals until he was "accidentally" hit by a car while crossing the street. Shortly after that, his machines were removed from the hospitals.
What he said his unit did was not kill the disease but buy resonating your cells, the unit would rejuvenate your good cells so that they could fight the disease. There are many pictures online showing what this unit can do. I should really start a thread for it.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on May 28, 2010, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: mflynn44 on May 28, 2010, 09:21:36 AM
MMS is said to cure rheumatoid arthritis and lyme arthritis but doesn't help with ordinary arthritus.

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UL7_S8BfduJzr4zj6js6XIYvcqXPWrcpeatQAZSy8mB6ZNlThNu65SpYmdFt6UV6PY1_vfh9H50wMZNvnigN4bGjZIZrPlo/MMS_Part_2.pdf
Sorry to say, but this is a broken link.  Gives a "Document not found" error.

--Lee
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on May 28, 2010, 03:26:35 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on May 28, 2010, 02:06:53 PM
The process entails polarization of electron parameters before conduction. The shockwave is what does the magic not the electrocution.
I've downloaded Lee Crock's patent (#6,016,450) and also a Kirlian photographic patent (4,386,834), very complicated, electronically.  I do like the Crock's low voltage approach but whether or not it's effective in all cases, is questionable.
But, my question is:  Would Kirlian photography---by itself---have the same external effect as a Lakhovsky oscillating radiator coil?
I believe, as Fig. 1 of patent #4,386,834 shows, and the high voltages involved, it should IMO.

Patent link:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=OEo4AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

--Lee
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on May 28, 2010, 04:40:22 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on May 28, 2010, 02:06:53 PM
The process entails polarization of electron parameters before conduction. The shockwave is what does the magic not the electrocution.

I definitely agree that the unit has something to do with the polarization of electrons in your body. However, I really don't think there is much of a "shockwave" involved with it. It switches polarity every 15 minutes or so. It is being switched through a relay. There is no direct contact to your body. I am not sure of the exact switching speed of a relay but since there is also a space between you and the screen (Capacitance), I would suspect that the electrons in your body would have some time to relax prior to being exposed to the opposite polarity.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on May 28, 2010, 04:55:18 PM
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on May 28, 2010, 03:26:35 PM
I've downloaded Lee Crock's patent (#6,016,450) and also a Kirlian photographic patent (4,386,834), very complicated, electronically.  I do like the Crock's low voltage approach but whether or not it's effective in all cases, is questionable.
But, my question is:  Would Kirlian photography---by itself---have the same external effect as a Lakhovsky oscillating radiator coil?
I believe, as Fig. 1 of patent #4,386,834 shows, and the high voltages involved, it should IMO.

Patent link:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=OEo4AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

--Lee

No, I really don't think so. By the looks of the Kirlian device, I think they are using a fixed frequency. It is used to produce an aura so that it can be photographed.
Lakhovsky's device incorporates a spark gap which produces multiple frequencies. These multiple frequencies are what resonate the cells, parts, organs in your body. He worked with Tesla on this device. Tesla also mentions in a few of his patents about the multiple frequencies that are generated with a spark gap and the medical benefits of some of them.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: FatBird on May 28, 2010, 05:40:57 PM
@ Mark69,  Has anyone have a working cure for arthritis?  I would like to hear everyone's experiences and such.

Thanks!
Mark

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Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: giantkiller on May 28, 2010, 06:32:34 PM
Look at the circuit again. It is only 1 wire.

Quote from: MrMag on May 28, 2010, 04:40:22 PM
I definitely agree that the unit has something to do with the polarization of electrons in your body. However, I really don't think there is much of a "shockwave" involved with it. It switches polarity every 15 minutes or so. It is being switched through a relay. There is no direct contact to your body. I am not sure of the exact switching speed of a relay but since there is also a space between you and the screen (Capacitance), I would suspect that the electrons in your body would have some time to relax prior to being exposed to the opposite polarity.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on May 28, 2010, 06:49:25 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on May 28, 2010, 06:32:34 PM
Look at the circuit again. It is only 1 wire.

Yeah I know, I made one. It switches the connection to the screen between the positive and negative terminals of the battery. I think you might have read more into my comment then what I meant to say. Sorry.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: Bob Smith on May 28, 2010, 11:43:04 PM
Osteoarthritis is a primary symptom of A sensitivity/intolerance. Getting off any grains with gluten will often go a long way toward reducing arthritis symptoms. Arthritis is an autoimmune response, and gluten ingestion can provoke it.  95% of people with gluten sensitivity are not diagnosed (blood tests are not reliable; stool test out of a texas lab - can't remember name right now - probably the best; GI tract biopsy hit and miss if you don't hit an affected area). This means that a lot of people are walking around with arthritis symptoms who could be cured quite simply.

Now, most people with gluten sensitivity (like me) also have difficulty with dairy - usually casein, a protein present in dairy (especially cow's milk and derived products).  Someone (GK?) mentioned sugar as well - absolutely poison.  If you want to sweeten, at least use maple syrup (lots of minerals) or honey.  To really heal, though, requires going off all grains and if yhou need to, eating portions of animal protein no larger than a deck of cards, preferably at midday, and stopping eating after 6 PM to allow GI tract to rest. This means getting your carbs from vegetable sources.  Elaine Gottschall's book, "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" details her specific carbohydrate diet, which she claims will take care of arthritis, MS and many other autoimmune diseases; it's a good step in a healthy direction, but in my experience, must be taken further. 

A raw plant-based (fruit and veg) diet, free of grains can transform a person's health.  Just a parting word:  Healing requires a change in diet, and this is the hardest thing for people to swallow (pardon my pun).  In my experience, most can't or won't do it. They'll try anything before giving up their favourite processed and forbidden foods and drinks, even if they're killing them - but there is no magic pill.  All that said, healing is a gradual process, as is changing one's diet - one step at a time.  Start by eliminating one thing, and then move on to the next. It may take a couple of years, but you'll never want to go back when you do.
Best to you.
Bob
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: infringer on May 29, 2010, 02:33:39 AM
What works for me is a combination of things...

A diet high in vitamin K
Glocosime Chondroitan with MSM liquid softgels as the liquid absorbs more the the solids do!
No more then 1 soda per day...
Lots of water.
Them new dr scholls inserts.
Stay active and if you have a serious flare up treat it with heat or ice try both and find out which works best.
Without activity your joints stop producing the fluid needed just like over doing it you can under do it or use it or lose it.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: retrod on May 29, 2010, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: Mark69 on May 26, 2010, 12:47:52 PM
Has anyone have a working cure for arthritis?  I would like to hear everyone's experiences and such.

Thanks!
Mark
Information to ponder, doesn't cost anything to try either!  :)

"Nightshade vegetables are among the foods that some people feel can trigger arthritis flares. Others feel their arthritis symptoms improve when nightshade vegetables are avoided. What are nightshade vegetables? According to The George Mateljan Foundation, food members of the nightshade family include:
ï,· potatoes (not sweet potatoes)
ï,· tomatoes
ï,· eggplant
ï,· sweet and hot peppers (including paprika, cayenne pepper and Tabasco sauce)
ï,· ground cherries
ï,· tomatillos and tamarillos
ï,· garden huckleberry and naranjillas
ï,· pepinos and pimentos"

Good Luck,
RD
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: giantkiller on May 29, 2010, 02:39:37 PM
The timing of 15 minute pulses is not the clue it is the high frequency connection that causes the Radiant energy shockwave. This is white/blue/purple and higher.

Quote from: MrMag on May 28, 2010, 06:49:25 PM
Yeah I know, I made one. It switches the connection to the screen between the positive and negative terminals of the battery. I think you might have read more into my comment then what I meant to say. Sorry.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on May 29, 2010, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on May 29, 2010, 02:39:37 PM
The timing of 15 minute pulses is not the clue it is the high frequency connection that causes the Radiant energy shockwave. This is white/blue/purple and higher.


We must be talking about different devices. I am talking about the Lee Crock device. As you can see, the screen is an open circuit with no load. The switching of the contacts will not cause any spark what-so-ever. What device were you talking about? It does sound interesting along the lines of the Lakhovsky device.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: giantkiller on May 29, 2010, 08:07:33 PM
Yes that is the one. The patient is in the dielectric field. When the relay makes contact there is a brief instance of non equilibrium and a shockwave is sent into the screens. albeit very small but large to the dendrites.

Quote from: MrMag on May 29, 2010, 04:32:06 PM

We must be talking about different devices. I am talking about the Lee Crock device. As you can see, the screen is an open circuit with no load. The switching of the contacts will not cause any spark what-so-ever. What device were you talking about? It does sound interesting along the lines of the Lakhovsky device.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on May 29, 2010, 09:07:00 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on May 29, 2010, 08:07:33 PM
Yes that is the one. The patient is in the dielectric field. When the relay makes contact there is a brief instance of non equilibrium and a shockwave is sent into the screens. albeit very small but large to the dendrites.

Wow, I think your way off on that. There is no shockwave involved at all. Lee himself says that the unit works at a cellular level to help reduce contaminants in the body. Once the contaminates are released from the cells the dendritic cells can do their job. It is the constant field not the shockwave that makes it work.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: giantkiller on May 29, 2010, 10:05:02 PM
There is a whole other level of physics that many are not aware of. Ignorance stands in the way as a bastion of defense.
I am sorry many don't see this. The status quo has not been taught in the ways beyond the dumbing down. I request you read Rife & Dotto. These men found a science that the common man refuses.
We are slowly emerging into a Star Trek like sick bay. We are so close technically yet so far politically.

Quote from: MrMag on May 29, 2010, 09:07:00 PM
Wow, I think your way off on that. There is no shockwave involved at all. Lee himself says that the unit works at a cellular level to help reduce contaminants in the body. Once the contaminates are released from the cells the dendritic cells can do their job. It is the constant field not the shockwave that makes it work.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on May 29, 2010, 10:28:11 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on May 29, 2010, 10:05:02 PM
There is a whole other level of physics that many are not aware of. Ignorance stands in the way as a bastion of defense.
I am sorry many don't see this. The status quo has not been taught in the ways beyond the dumbing down. I request you read Rife & Dotto. These men found a science that the common man refuses.
We are slowly emerging into a Star Trek like sick bay. We are so close technically yet so far politically.

I have read a lot of different material about frequencies and their health benefits. Lakhovsky, Rife, Hulda Clark and I'm sure, a host of others use frequencies for medical purposes. But these are frequencies. What we are talking about with Crocks device is a switch of polarity every 15 minutes. I don't think that this even qualifies as a frequency. Yes, it would be arrogant for us to think that we know all about physics. We probably have only scratched the surface. It is just that I know you are putting a lot more into this then is actually there. But thanks for the Dotto mention, I honestly haven't heard of him, I'll look him up.

I was going to attach the .pdf of Hulda Clark but it is too big of a file. If anyone is interested, you can find it online. The title of her document is "cure for all diseases"
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on May 31, 2010, 10:38:49 PM
@GK

Can you, or anyone else, please expand on "Dotto". I've tried to find him/her on the net and I can't seem to find who your talking about.

Thanks,


(did anybody get a chance to look up Hulda?)
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: Mark69 on June 02, 2010, 04:39:14 PM
Haven't had a chance to catch up on anything here, will try the MSM tablets first.  Didn't search "Hulda" or "Dotto" yet.

Mark
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on June 02, 2010, 08:56:22 PM
I highly recommend the MSM. It works good for me.  I did find Dotto and GK did send me a link for it. Not much info on him. Not sure why that is. I still like the Lakhovsky device better. If I can get up off my ass maybe I'll try to build one.

Hulda's information is very interesting. She lists a lot of frequencies to use to kill parasites, bacteria ... in your body. I haven't done a side by side comparison  with Rife but she is doing somewhat the same thing. The unit she uses is very simple to make and if you have a signal generator, you can just use it.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: nickle989 on June 02, 2010, 10:20:47 PM
Change of diet can help.  If you are more acidic then this is bad bad bad.  You need to move to a more alkaline diet.  Red meats are not a help.  Caffeine is also bad as it restricts blood flow in the small veins.  When you can get the blood flowing again in the small veins besides bringing oxygen it also takes away the garbage.  If you smoke well then that is the first thing to quit.  If you take the "herb" then make a tee with it.  If you are over weight well you need to loose the fat as this is also hard on the joints. 

 
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: troyd1 on June 03, 2010, 05:07:07 PM
Go to Mercola. Here is a search link: http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amercola.com+arthritis&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7

Also, EFT is very effective. I have used it for many mental and physical issues. It works every time I try it. I like this persons version: http://www.youtube.com/user/HealingMagic?feature=chclk. He has almost 300 videos, some testimonials and some with actual tapping. Maybe check out a fibromyalgia one if there is not an arthritis one.

Although I have not tried it, I think Bowen therapy would also be very good.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: columbus on June 16, 2010, 05:11:22 PM
The pill is called reparagen. Sold in CVS.
reparagen.com
Also experimenting with diet helps a lot. For example, eliminating oils, switching from white bread to dark rye bread and adding papaya and noni.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: crowclaw on June 16, 2010, 06:03:31 PM
@ mark69

have built the Lee Crock device and currently have it in use, my Wife suffers with arthritis.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on June 16, 2010, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: crowclaw on June 16, 2010, 06:03:31 PM
@ mark69
have built the Lee Crock device and currently have it in use, my Wife suffers with arthritis.
@crowclaw
Very good.  Has your wife seen improvement, or is it too soon to say yet?  Before he passed away, my Dad had arthritis.  I wish you and your wife luck.

--Lee
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: crowclaw on June 17, 2010, 02:28:58 AM
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on June 16, 2010, 08:29:39 PM
@crowclaw
Very good.  Has your wife seen improvement, or is it too soon to say yet?  Before he passed away, my Dad had arthritis.  I wish you and your wife luck.

--Lee

Thank you for your kind words, I'm still experimenting so it's to early to say. This device is so simple  I would encourage experimenters to put one together for themselves. Cost is minimal and I would like to hear from others so that we can compare results. I'm investigating the theory of how it produces the claimed results, I believe one has to keep an open mind and sometimes put as side conventional thinking here. I am an electronics engineer but the circuit principles are somewhat difficult to grasp without some deep thought on the matter... we will see. Kind Regards M
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on June 17, 2010, 02:56:29 PM
Quote from: crowclaw on June 17, 2010, 02:28:58 AM
... This device is so simple  I would encourage experimenters to put one together for themselves. Cost is minimal and I would like to hear from others so that we can compare results. ...
I agree, although there are more complicated designs available on the 'Web.  Is what you're working with something like the diagram in Reply #34 of this thread?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=5c0e455c120bf234e5e38c03b227ee95&topic=9218.30

QuoteI'm investigating the theory of how it produces the claimed results, I believe one has to keep an open mind and sometimes put as side conventional thinking here.
There have indeed been differing results in separate individuals.  You can report your on your wife's condition in this thread.

QuoteI am an electronics engineer but the circuit principles are somewhat difficult to grasp without some deep thought on the matter... we will see. Kind Regards M
We may have a little in common.  I learned electronics school and from my Dad, who used electronic engineering on his job.

--Lee
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: crowclaw on June 17, 2010, 05:33:41 PM
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on June 17, 2010, 02:56:29 PM
I agree, although there are more complicated designs available on the 'Web.  Is what you're working with something like the diagram in Reply #34 of this thread?



Reply 34  shows two screens, the latter marketed machines by Lee Crock used a single conductive screen placed under the person, the switched polarity from the cell pack was connected to it so this the design I have based my experiment on. I have so far experienced a better sleep pattern and feel refreshed upon waking without the usual aches, as for my Wife's arthritic complaint I think time will tell. I have a feeling similar devices may have been experimented with prior to Lee Crofts'  I would be grateful for any known links.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: Mark69 on June 17, 2010, 07:35:08 PM
@crowclaw,

Hope she is doing better, thanks for the info.  How difficult would you say the build is?  I am a beginner at electronics.  Can you make instructions for those of us that have limited skills?  Keep us informed on the progress!

Mark
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: crowclaw on June 18, 2010, 02:23:21 AM
Quote from: Mark69 on June 17, 2010, 07:35:08 PM
@crowclaw,

Hope she is doing better, thanks for the info.  How difficult would you say the build is?  I am a beginner at electronics.  Can you make instructions for those of us that have limited skills?  Keep us informed on the progress!

Mark

Hi Mark,

The circuit is very simple and I will certainly post further information regarding it. All you need to do is to assemble  a battery box to accommodate your "D" cells  I used a combination of 10 ( each pair of two connect in series) The 5 pairs then connect in a parallel block to give 3 volts. The idea is to connect your screen mat or healing pad to the + end for 15 mins and then swap to the - end for 15 mins and just repeat sequence. A simple mechanical timer can be used or a 555 timer circuit. If you visit the various links to Lee Crocks sites you can get more details.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: crowclaw on June 18, 2010, 04:54:20 PM
Hi to all,

This is a simplified design for those who wish to experiment with the energy cleaner I am currently experimenting with:
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: crowclaw on June 18, 2010, 04:59:07 PM
Could some one kindly open my attachment and post it here on my behalf as I had  trouble converting this excell document to an image to be viewed within this thread. Kind Regards M
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: angryScientist on June 19, 2010, 01:19:58 AM
Quote from: crowclaw on June 18, 2010, 04:59:07 PM
Could some one kindly open my attachment and post it here on my behalf as I had  trouble converting this excell document to an image to be viewed within this thread. Kind Regards M
Hell o there, I am no longer an angryScientist rather am much worse than that. If you want to do what your talking about you might want to try this;
1.) Get "spred32". It's free. Does Exel. (What more do you need? Slow stroke?) Google you stupid fuck.
2.) Running windows? (Of course you are; silly question) Press "Print screen" and, or "Control"+"Print screen". That will copy the screen you are seeing onto the Clip Board.
3.) Open paint. Press "Control"+"V" and, or Go to the menu bar click "Edit", "Paste".

Does every one else feel a little dim or is it just me?.....    !

I almost for got to mention. It wont do you any good, you stupid fuck. Pull the head out of your ass. Demand your body, what?!

I see. I chi.

Good luck.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: CompuTutor on June 19, 2010, 01:48:32 AM
Quote from: crowclaw on June 18, 2010, 04:59:07 PM
Could some one kindly open my attachment and post it here on my behalf as I had  trouble converting this excell document to an image to be viewed within this thread. Kind Regards M

Perhaps these two will help:
(I had to remove the crappy IE "Instance" alphanumeric definer,
it will present the appropriate link though)

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://files.meetup.com/562554/MMS_Part_2.pdf&ei=mV0cTJSlI4P-8Ab8zpHKDA&sa=X&oi=unauthorizedredirect&ct=targetlink&ust=&usg=

Wow AS, could you be more cynical ?

Quote from: angryScientist on June 19, 2010, 01:19:58 AM
Demand your body, what?!
I see. I chi.

Ask of your body is basic science !

If that was fake, placebo effect would not exist !

Please, Seriously, FUCK OFF !
And I thought I had bad days...

Even if your ubber intelligence cannot even
wrap your head around the concept of faith
bow out of useless negative replies that offer nothing !

Oh, Sorry,
Your superior and know all...
Yeah, sure...

Nice contributions from all others.

CrowClaw, your conversion is below:
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: crowclaw on June 19, 2010, 03:21:50 AM
@CompuTutor,

Many thanks for your help, I came here to share my  experiences with others. For those who are blessed with good health- fine; many others are not so fortunate...  myself and my good wife both have health problems. The information I have already posted hear is open to anyone  wishing to experiment for themselves and likewise post their results and comments. The details I have put together in responce to mark69s' request is a simple mechanical assembly to which one can put their own ideas. I have no idea at this stage as to its health improvement claims of course, experimenters must decide for themselves... helpful comments and positive benefits welcome.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: romerouk on June 19, 2010, 07:16:17 AM
Has anyone tried colloidal silver?
http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/colloidal-silver-anti-bacterial-natural-antibiotic.asp
Check youtube for different reports about it.
I have tried it myself for normal flu and it is amazing what it does, simple things with great powers.
There are few bad reports too, but in general looks safe.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on June 19, 2010, 10:53:39 AM
Sounds like AS had a bad day.

I happened to have an Omron on/off timer kicking around so I used it. It made things pretty simple. It seemed to help me for at least a couple of months but after that it was pretty hard to tell. I also tried the silver but never took it on a regular basis so I can't comment on it either way.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on June 19, 2010, 03:20:05 PM
Quote from: crowclaw on June 19, 2010, 03:21:50 AM
@CompuTutor,
Many thanks for your help, I came here to  my  experiences with others. For those who are blessed with good health- fine; many others are not so fortunate...  myself and my good wife both have health problems.
My sympathies to your wife and yourself.  Even I'm 60 now, and I feel it.
Quote
The information I have already posted hear is open to anyone  wishing to experiment for themselves and likewise post their results and comments.
Yes, good.  If I didn't have to borrow a computer all the time, I would have tried to render the drawing into .PDF or something else.  I've learned by experience: time on a borrowed computer isn't assured and ascii drawings don't always come out as planned due to individual software platform formatting issues.
Quote
The details I have put together in responce to mark69s' request is a simple mechanical assembly to which one can put their own ideas. I have no idea at this stage as to its health improvement claims of course, experimenters must decide for themselves... helpful comments and positive benefits welcome.
Keep up the good work.  I'm behind your efforts.  Way to go!

--Lee
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: crowclaw on June 19, 2010, 05:12:27 PM
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on June 19, 2010, 03:20:05 PM
My sympathies to your wife and yourself.  Even I'm 60 now, and I feel it.
--Lee
Thank's for your comments Lee.
We are of similar ages_my Wife is 62 and I'm 64 in July. Anyway I have to report something quite strange! twice my Wife has awakened complaining of a strong tingling sensation over her entire body. After rechecking the circuits etc. I discovered that the reflective foam mat that I assumed had a conductive foil surface showed no continuity when probed, at least that I could measure. This mat has now been replaced using aluminium foil fixed with tape to a card board membrane. The sensation she experienced has not been noticed since.
The fabricated mats we are both using are placed side-by-side on the base of the bed under the spring mattress. BTW the foam mat I used is of the type intended for camping which has a metallic reflective surface which melts easily from the heat of a soldering iron, so I assume to be  plastic. The output lead from the control unit terminates in an electrical crock clip that is then attached to the conductive side of the mat. In the case for the foam mat it had seemingly no direct electrical connection!! I will investigate further... very strange. 
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on June 19, 2010, 09:33:22 PM
Crowclaw,

What I used was aluminum screen that I got at the hardware store. I folded over the edges and put duct tape on it to get rid of the sharp edges. It seemed to work pretty good and it was a cheap solution.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: crowclaw on June 20, 2010, 02:35:28 AM
Quote from: MrMag on June 19, 2010, 09:33:22 PM
Crowclaw,

What I used was aluminum screen that I got at the hardware store. I folded over the edges and put duct tape on it to get rid of the sharp edges. It seemed to work pretty good and it was a cheap solution.
Hi Mr Mag,

Good idea, our local Garden Centre sells it...I'll get a sheet today and try it. Did you place it on the bed base under your  mattress? BTW did you use solid copper connecting wire or stranded to connect onto your screen? I must say I sleep better and wake up minus the  stiffness and aches I usually seem to get. Many thanks for the tip...M   :)
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: MrMag on June 20, 2010, 09:53:24 AM
We have a sponge pad that we have on the mattress. It's about 1" thick. We had the screen between it and the mattress. The wire I used was just standard stranded wire and I put an alligator clip on the end to connect to the screen. I used regular aluminum window screen. I really don't think the type of wire you use to connect the screen matters.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: IndianaBoys on June 20, 2010, 11:36:22 AM
Oil Pulling for a Brighter Smile and Better Health

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/article%20oil%20pulling.htm

Below are various quotes from article related to arthritis.

Personal experience say it does work and is very easy to incorporate.

IndianaBoys

“I couldn’t see how swishing oil in my mouth could help with my arthritis. After eight days I noticed the pain in my hands diminished considerably. There was also marked improvement in my neck and I could move my head from side to side without any pain. I was amazed at how quickly I got results. I haven’t felt this good in along time!”

Oil pulling traces it roots to oil gargling practiced in Ayurvedic medicine. Oil pulling as we know it today, was introduced in 1992 by Dr. F. Karach, MD. Dr. Karach claimed that oil pulling could cure a variety of illnesses ranging from heart disease and digestive troubles to hormonal disorders. He said it cured him of a chronic blood disorder of 15 years duration and within three days it cured his arthritis, which at times was so painful he was bed ridden. He used the method in his medical practice with great success.

As simple as it is, oil pulling has a very powerful detoxifying effect. Our mouths are the home to billions of bacteria, viruses, fungi and other parasites and their toxins. Candida and Streptococcus are common residents in our mouths. It is these types of germs and their toxic waste products that cause gum disease and tooth decay and contribute to many other health problems including arthritis and heart disease. Our immune system is constantly fighting these troublemakers. If our immune system becomes overloaded or burdened by excessive stress, poor diet, environmental toxins and such, these organisms can spread throughout the body causing secondary infections and chronic inflammation, leading to any number of health problems.




Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: crowclaw on June 20, 2010, 02:21:54 PM
@ indiana boys,
This looks interesting and simple, are you saying you have personel experience of using this method. I will get my Wife to try it out... good post Regards
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: bboj on June 20, 2010, 04:27:57 PM
try eliminate flour, sugar and strch from diet completly for at least 3 months.
It worked for me.
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: infringer on June 20, 2010, 11:51:38 PM
Gluten Free Diet and Vitamin K "fresh spinach leaves in a salad" and sun tan for Vitamin C from the Sun these two things repair your vascular system while the gluten is a known factor for joint problems there is plenty of great alternatives just look in the organic section you pay more but you get what you pay for and if you still cannot justify the payment watch FoodINC via netflix it will give you a way different perspective on things after that show because it is factual look into what they say in the documentary and you will find much if not all of it to be true.

Also take glocosamine with MSM while doing these things to maximize the effectiveness.

Finally you must stay active do not sit or stand in one spot for too long!
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: TeslaFan on July 19, 2010, 04:48:06 PM
DMSO provides relief for several days per treatment,but be aware that it`s only approved for horses ;D
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: Bob Smith on July 20, 2010, 09:40:39 PM
QuoteGluten Free Diet and Vitamin K "fresh spinach leaves in a salad" and sun tan for Vitamin C from the Sun these two things repair your vascular system while the gluten is a known factor for joint problems there is plenty of great alternatives just look in the organic section you pay more but you get what you pay for and if you still cannot justify the payment watch FoodINC via netflix it will give you a way different perspective on things after that show because it is factual look into what they say in the documentary and you will find much if not all of it to be true.

Absolutely - Osteo arthritis is a primary manifestation of gluten sensitivity/intolerance, which is often accompanied by problems digesting casein protein in dairy products (moreso from cow's milk than other sources like goat). Stay far away from wheat (and even corn) and dairy and chances are you'll feel a lot better (I did & do  :)
Bob
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: infringer on July 20, 2010, 10:03:15 PM
indeed stay away from gluten many believe it is the root of arthritic conditions....
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: Bob Smith on July 21, 2010, 08:28:16 PM
Risking to linger,
I dare say, Infringer,
That like a true singer
Of enticing song,
Your brief direct truth
Will save bone and tooth
From x-raying booth,
For life to live long.
;)
Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: 11:11 on July 29, 2010, 08:52:14 PM



bones are made of calcium and OXYGEN.
the OXYGEN caps the end of the bones crystal lattice.
exactly like oxygen caps the end of a rocks crystal lattice.


hydrogen and carbon readily bond with oxygen.

when there is too much acidic hydrogen/carbon in the body,
the hydrogen/carbon rips the oxygen atoms off of bones.
causing the bones to disintegrate, into calcium powder.



arthritis is caused by too much acidic hydrogen/carbon in the body.

the acid comes from too much sugar,
too much acidic food,
and too much cooked food.
(food loses its oxygen, but retains its hydrogen and carbon, when cooked).



to stop and reverse arthritis,
you must eat less sugar,
eat less acidic food,
eat less cooked food,
and eat more foods that have an alkalizing effect.

such as fruits and vegetables, which have living tissue in them.
because the cells of plants, excrete oxygen as a waste.



you could eat fresh carrots and apples for the oxygen,
and uncooked oatmeal for carbohydrates.

uncooked oatmeal is no different from cerial.
just soak it in cold water for half a minute, than eat it.

uncooked oatmeal is thought to bond to fat/acid, and drag it out of your body.



Title: Re: Anyone have a cure for arthritis?
Post by: crowclaw on July 30, 2010, 01:50:45 AM
Quote from: 11:11 on July 29, 2010, 08:52:14 PM


bones are made of calcium and OXYGEN.
the OXYGEN caps the end of the bones crystal lattice.
exactly like oxygen caps the end of a rocks crystal lattice.


hydrogen and carbon readily bond with oxygen.

when there is too much acidic hydrogen/carbon in the body,
the hydrogen/carbon rips the oxygen atoms off of bones.
causing the bones to disintegrate, into calcium powder.



arthritis is caused by too much acidic hydrogen/carbon in the body.

the acid comes from too much sugar,
too much acidic food,
and too much cooked food.
(food loses its oxygen, but retains its hydrogen and carbon, when cooked).



to stop and reverse arthritis,
you must eat less sugar,
eat less acidic food,
eat less cooked food,
and eat more foods that have an alkalizing effect.

such as fruits and vegetables, which have living tissue in them.
because the cells of plants, excrete oxygen as a waste.



you could eat fresh carrots and apples for the oxygen,
and uncooked oatmeal for carbohydrates.

uncooked oatmeal is no different from cerial.
just soak it in cold water for half a minute, than eat it.

uncooked oatmeal is thought to bond to fat/acid, and drag it out of your body.
Thanks 11.11 for  posting, I'll pass this over to my Wife. Kind Regards.