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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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aether22

PM Current Tests:

The motor current was initially at .87A and when I shorted it the speed steadily dropped and with it slowly the current dropped by .01 amp increments until the acceleration peaked. (about .79A IIRC)

I then opened the HV circuit and the motor speed dropped and with it the current slowly went up but not as high as when it started until it reached the speed at which it was happy to sit with the HV coils open.  I then reshorted and the current again slowly dropped as the speed increased, this time to about .77A and I then did this cycle one more time but got only about .01 of an amp lower and so gave up trying to get it any lower.

It is interesting that the current would drop and not return even when back to the same RPM again.

Going to have to warm up a bit before the next experiment, running fans in winter is not really a great idea, though what I call winter and what Thane and JustMe calls winter is an entirely different thing, I'm a big hot house whimp.
Thane, do I understand that you have noted instantaneous current changes that do not seem to be due to any change in RPM?


?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

aether22

I tested various resistors and found that while 6 or 100 ohm resistors do not stop the acceleration effect (or attenuate it to an extent that I noticed not that I'm sure I would notice) they also generated in my setup a limited voltage of .36 and 6v respectively (the latter being a mere .27w) as expected.

However when I tried a 1k ohm resistor I got 47v and .03A (.015 less then the previous tests 1.41w) but now there was seemingly no acceleration at all, despite the fact that the current was only slightly reduced.

So it seems that you can't pull much energy from a HV coil until the acceleration effect reduces, disappears or actually turns into a net deceleration. Still it would make sense using coils that have some acceleration effect however compromised or even if only when not being used to power a load they can be used to accelerate the rotor.

But the more interesting point is that the acceleration seems to have a non-linear relationship with current, although at this point I have not established just how much so and if the effect is at the motor as I believe and feel all the evidence indicates then the possible increase in Lenz Law as the phase of the current changes would also reduce the acceleration effect further. (Actually a torque sensor would come in handy for fast accurate reads on the magnitude of the effect as well as removing any remaining doubt as to where the new torque comes from, Thane if you have decent funding you might seriously consider getting yourself one just to give a fast accurate read on the effect)

I also connected up the primary of a 240v transformer to the HV coils but that killed the acceleration and dropped the current, actually that reminds me I forgot to test with secondary shorted...
Yes, as expected the secondary being shorted reestablished the acceleration effect while increasing the current nicely to .34A (It's a 240v to 40v step down transformer)

I have also figured that if I fill the hose connecting the motor and generator with materials that resist the aether's flow I will either energize the aether (not sure what that will do) or block it. (or possibly block it only for a time, or attenuate it, tons of possibilities)
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

aether22

Oh yeah, and the HV coil can be shorted through an air core coil and provided it isn't massive the acceleration will be as expected, this is good news for the surrogate coils tests to come.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

CRANKYpants

QuoteHow many ohms and wire gauge are you currently liking for the coil?

53 OHMS @ 30 GAUGE WIRE - THE OTHER COIL IS 145 OHMS - WORKS BETTER AT HIGHER RPM

QuoteSo it seems that you can't pull much energy from a HV coil until the acceleration effect reduces, disappears or actually turns into a net deceleration. Still it would make sense using coils that have some acceleration effect however compromised or even if only when not being used to power a load they can be used to accelerate the rotor.

HENCE WHY WE USE A HV COIL IN CONJUNCTION WITH A HC COIL - IN A BALANCED MODE OR EVEN WITH ACCELERATION TO GET 20 WATTS w/ ACCELERATED POWER THOUGH A HC COIL - WHERE IT WOULD STOP THE PRIME MOVER DEAD IF EMPLOYED ON ITS OWN.

PLACING THE HC COIL ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROTOR HAS POSITIVE BENEFITS AS WELL.

YOU CAN TAKE LOTS OF POWER FROM A HV COIL IF YOU HAVE MANY OF THEM AND YOU USE THEM ALL TO ACCELERATE YOUR ROTOR - THEN LOAD SOME OF THEM AND USE THE OTHERS TO MAINTAIN THE NEW HIGHER STEADY STATE SPEED.

Thanal Glands.

CRANKYpants

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DOES ANYONE ELSE GET THIS ERROR MESSAGE AS OFTEN AS I DO?
(like 10 times so far this morning and being online for 15 minutes)

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