Quote from: Super God on June 09, 2008, 10:16:34 AM
In order to control the intensity of the discharge, would it be better to replace the coil with a hv power supply and just piggyback 110 or maybe even 220 onto that for the output?  The distributor could trigger the hv power supply via relay (across the source 12v).  Sounds like a good route to travel, as the coil is very inconsistent in it's spark output.  I think it would be better to use something more constant.  What do you guys think?

I think   a combination  of  controling  the amount  of water and the  amount of the  low voltage  current . 
If   you  replace the coil   with a HV power supply  you have to find another way to  time the spark


Think  of the  original  ignition system as   the timing  control circuit





There should be  some combination  of   water and  current  that  will  provide  the  right horse power and  temp .   

The  water  would not all need to be   applied the same way .
It  may not  be practical to inject enough  water  at  the spark plug ......     mist  into the  manifold , HHO   or both  could fill the gap 

gary

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Quote from: resonanceman on June 09, 2008, 11:06:37 AM
I think   a combination  of  controling  the amount  of water and the  amount of the  low voltage  current . 
If   you  replace the coil   with a HV power supply  you have to find another way to  time the spark


Think  of the  original  ignition system as   the timing  control circuit





There should be  some combination  of   water and  current  that  will  provide  the  right horse power and  temp .   

The  water  would not all need to be   applied the same way .
It  may not  be practical to inject enough  water  at  the spark plug ......     mist  into the  manifold , HHO   or both  could fill the gap 

gary

You could just replace the spark plugs with triggers to control when the hv fires, it wouldn't be hard to change over.

Quote from: Super God on June 09, 2008, 09:32:34 PM
You could just replace the spark plugs with triggers to control when the hv fires, it wouldn't be hard to change over.

yes    but  you  still  will have to get the  spark into the  cylinder  .....  a  spark plug is  simple and  proven  way to  do that .

I do    think that  working on ways to  get  longer  sparks  is a good  idea .......   I am  pretty sure that a wider  spark  gap  translates to more   plasma  once   you  get it  going .



gary

Wow, you guys are all going so well.  I have been working on this for a while-   I have built a basic jacobs ladder via a kit sourced from jaycar here in australia, it powers the ignition coil so all i have to do now is plug in some Low voltage AC (220-240v here in aus), only question is what kind of diodes do i need?  what are you using Super God?

Note:  bigger spark gaps will work great in a bench test however HV low amps doesnt seem to like heat, so once in an engine you may find the breakdown of spark is immense and a smaller gap is required.  If you want some good info on hydrocarbons for supplementing fuel, google search bingofuel.