Quote from: CRANKYpants on June 26, 2008, 06:09:53 AM
THE HV COIL IS SET ON THE CORE - THEN THERE IS ANOTHER LAYER OF CORE MATERIAL AROUND AND ON TOP OF THE HV WINDING - THE HC COIL IS WOUND ON TOP OF THIS SECOND CORE SO IT LOOKS LIKE THIS: (SIDE VIEW)

HC WINDING
SECONDARY FERROMAGNETIC CORE MATERIAL
HV WINDING
PRIMARY CORE
HV WINDING
SECONDARY FERROMAGNETIC CORE MATERIAL
HC WINDING

An interesting twist to the tale and turn of events  !        

Quote from: hoptoad on June 28, 2008, 01:23:25 AM
An interesting twist to the tale and turn of events  !        

YESTERDAY I WOUND A 61 ohm HV COIL ON A 10 mm OD - 3 mm IRON PIPE AND THEN AM PLACING MY HC COIL ON TOP OF ANOTHER 40 mm - 3 mm PIPE SO THE SIZE HAS BEEN REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY.

IT SO COOL TO WATCH THE HC OUTPUT INCREASE WHEN THE HV COIL IS ENGAGED - PREVIOUSLY THE HC COIL OUTPUT WOULD DROP DOWN TO ABOUT 0.8 volts UNDER THE SAME TEST CONDITIONS - NOW IT INCREASES BY 0.2 volts.

Thane

Quote from: CRANKYpants on June 28, 2008, 09:27:10 AM
YESTERDAY I WOUND A 61 ohm HV COIL ON A 10 mm OD - 3 mm IRON PIPE AND THEN AM PLACING MY HC COIL ON TOP OF ANOTHER 40 mm - 3 mm PIPE SO THE SIZE HAS BEEN REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY.

IT SO COOL TO WATCH THE HC OUTPUT INCREASE WHEN THE HV COIL IS ENGAGED - PREVIOUSLY THE HC COIL OUTPUT WOULD DROP DOWN TO ABOUT 0.8 volts UNDER THE SAME TEST CONDITIONS - NOW IT INCREASES BY 0.2 volts.

Hi Thane,

Yes, that is good news. In your latest document, the explanation for the difference in the HV and HC coils, made a lot of sense to me. Do you have any idea on how the new setup is working? At first, when you said you going to overlap them, it seemed like there would be just a big flux fu fight. Having two coil/cores together, and each coil/core being able to effect each other along with the magnets is mind bending.

Also wondering if you tried the new mag setup with your old HC and HV coil setup? I am still amazed at how the HV's  coil short could possibly reduce the HC's voltage.

Kinda quiet here, I think Luc got the spooks sweating buckshot right now.

Regards, Larry

Quote from: CRANKYpants on June 28, 2008, 09:27:10 AM
YESTERDAY I WOUND A 61 ohm HV COIL ON A 10 mm OD - 3 mm IRON PIPE AND THEN AM PLACING MY HC COIL ON TOP OF ANOTHER 40 mm - 3 mm PIPE SO THE SIZE HAS BEEN REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY.

IT SO COOL TO WATCH THE HC OUTPUT INCREASE WHEN THE HV COIL IS ENGAGED - PREVIOUSLY THE HC COIL OUTPUT WOULD DROP DOWN TO ABOUT 0.8 volts UNDER THE SAME TEST CONDITIONS - NOW IT INCREASES BY 0.2 volts.

Thane

It would appear that one possible moral of the story is : don't get paranoid, get solenoid !   
Cheers, good luck and KneeDeep 

Quote from: LarryC on June 28, 2008, 06:48:57 PM
At first, when you said you going to overlap them, it seemed like there would be just a big flux fu fight. Having two coil/cores together, and each coil/core being able to effect each other along with the magnets is mind bending.

@Larry,
Its strating to look like the overunity transformer setup of Thanes - maybe its the same effect at work perhaps a toroid is whats needed here. I want to try the transformer thing but nothing seems to be happenign on that on this forum. It should be easier to do the experiments with the transofmrer, no moving parts.
-Mike